basic poll : who do you support, and why? ... Israel rejects calls to scale back attacks

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

CNN reported objectively and straight forwardly.

People can resign if they cannot abide journalist standards.

 

[Grau]

Show me a statement by a Palestinian resistance/terrorist group that has EVER claimed to act upon a "divine" mandate.

They ALL, simply state the FACT, that British Palestine was formerly settled for around 1400 years by Arabs, Christians and Muslims - with Jewish people constituting less then 5% of the entire British Mandates population (the vast majority of Middle-East Jews (those "original" Jews) - around 1.000,000 - and British Palestine around 20,000) had been living for centuries and a millennia in Arab/Muslim dominated countries.

Upon Ben Gurion having declared the State of Israel and driven out around a million Palestinians - the Arabs and Egypt in turn evicted around a million Jews. Therefore in order to get a million EUROPEAN Jews (foreigners and mostly Zionists) into British Palestine aka Israel - 1,000,000 local, genuine Jews lost their homes and everything with it.

Therefore it is an undeniable FACT - that the Zionists caused the greatest Jewish Diaspora in the Middle-East since the creation of the Kingdom of David, 2700 years prior to 1948. And the greatest Arab/Palestinian/Muslim Diaspora since the initiation of Islam.

You got that totally wrong as well - no surprise there. The Palestinians are ALL very well and painfully aware about the price they are paying since the Zionists invaded their homes and territory, latest by 1948.

According to a simpleton like you - ALL those e.g. Gaelic and Germanic tribes resisting the Roman invasion into their lands - must have been terrorists and therefore deserved to be eliminated and/or subdued. (Killing Roman settlers in e.g. Raetia - how dare they!!)

BTW, the Nazis would have had every right to bomb the shit out of French civilians - due to the actions of the French Maquis, whilst claiming to "only" attacking and eradicating Marquis members.

Keep in mind that it was the "official" French government that had surrendered to the Nazis !! Therefore unlike the Palestinians and their PLO or Hamas etc., (who have NEVER signed a deceleration of surrender) the French Marquis were indeed terrorists who acted against their own governments surrender deceleration and proclamations. Hence the Marquis was also rightfully persecuted by the own French police forces.

Therefore you must be very confused as to why until today, Marquis members are hailed as being heroes and "true" Frenchmen, and not as a bunch of murdering terrorists.

Thanks for another well written, rational and informative comment.

Re:

Therefore it is an undeniable FACT - that the Zionists caused the greatest Jewish Diaspora in the Middle-East since the creation of the Kingdom of David, 2700 years prior to 1948. And the greatest Arab/Palestinian/Muslim Diaspora since the initiation of Islam.

Your observation the recently arrived Zionists are responsible for virtually all Levantine carnage is supported throughout the following excellent source:


“Top Ten Myths about the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict”
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/06/17/top-ten-myths-about-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict/

EXCERPTS "Myth #1 – Jews and Arabs have always been in conflict in the region.
"For the most part, Jewish Palestinians got along with their Arab neighbors. This began to change with the onset of the Zionist movement, because the Zionists rejected the right of the Palestinians to self-determination and wanted Palestine for their own, to create a “Jewish State” in a region where Arabs were the majority and owned most of the land.

Representatives from all sides of the emerging conflict testified to the commission that prior to the First World War, “the Jews and Arabs lived side by side if not in amity, at least with tolerance, a quality which today is almost unknown in Palestine.” The problem was that “The Arab people of Palestine are today united in their demand for representative government”, but were being denied that right by the Zionists and their British benefactors.

The British Hope-Simpson report of 1930 similarly noted that Jewish residents of non-Zionist communities in Palestine enjoyed friendship with their Arab neighbors. “It is quite a common sight to see an Arab sitting in the verandah of a Jewish house”, the report noted. “The position is entirely different in the Zionist colonies.”CONTINUED

The same source goes on to refute other popular Zionist myths frequently stated by apologists for US subsidized Zionist criminality.

What exposes Netanyahu's "war" as simply a genocidal land grab is the absence of an "End Game" and his murderous Civilian to Combatant kill ratio.
I can think of no other US funded government in modern history with such a transparently genocidal Civilian to Combatant kill ratio.

US Government complicity with Zionist genocide not only puts America squarely on the wrong side of history but ensures the deaths of countless young Americans who will be called on to die for Israeli regional hegemony, again.

Thanks again,

 

[Grau]

CNN reported objectively and straight forwardly.

People can resign if they cannot abide journalist standards.

Since you've never been to the Middle East or spent time in the Levant with its residents, how do you know the accuracy of anything CNN reports?

It is commonly known by anyone knowledgable about Middle Eastern realities that Western MSM has an egregious pro Israel bias that has effectively duped the gullible and poorly educated individuals.

Among other things, Jewish writer and musician, Gilad Atzmon states that all eight major film studios are run by Jews (1) and countless other sources (2) have exposed the MSM pro Israel bias that has apparently shaped your opinions

"CNN staff say network’s pro-Israel slant amounts to ‘journalistic malpractice’"​

CNN staff say networkâs pro-Israel slant amounts to âjournalistic malpracticeâ

Insiders say pressure from the top results in credulous reporting of Israeli claims and silencing of Palestinian perspectives

www.theguardian.com

EXCERPT "Insiders say pressure from the top results in credulous reporting of Israeli claims and silencing of Palestinian perspectives

CNN is facing a backlash from its own staff over editorial policies they say have led to a regurgitation of Israeli propaganda and the censoring of Palestinian perspectives in the network’s coverage of the war in Gaza." CONTINUED



(1). "Jews DO control the media,"

Jews DO control the media, — Gilad Atzmon thoughts and music

Introduction by Gilad Atzmon : The following article was published on the popular Zionist site Times Of Israel . It actually confirms everything we say and write about Jewish power, Jewish identity, Jewish left and Jewish AZZ (anti Zionist Zionists) . It is also consi

www.gilad.co.uk

EXCERPT "Let’s be honest with ourselves, here, fellow Jews. We do control the media. We’ve got so many dudes up in the executive offices in all the big movie production companies it’s almost obscene. Just about every movie or TV show, whether it be “Tropic Thunder” or “Curb Your Enthusiasm,” is rife with actors, directors, and writers who are Jewish. Did you know that all eight major film studios are run by Jews?"

But the funny part is when any anti-Semite or anti-Israel person starts to spout stuff like, “The Jews control the media!” and “The Jews control Washington!”

Suddenly we’re up in arms. We create huge campaigns to take these people down. We do what we can to put them out of work. We publish articles. We’ve created entire organizations that exist just to tell everyone that the Jews don’t control nothin’. No, we don’t control the media, we don’t have any more sway in DC than anyone else. No, no, no, we swear: We’re just like everybody else!

Does anyone else (who’s not a bigot) see the irony of this? CONTINUED



(2). “U.S. media coverage reveals a pro-Israel bias”
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2014/09/01/commentary/world-commentary/u-s-media-coverage-reveals-a-pro-israel-bias/#.WMLm5mafK_U

EXCERPT “Why does TV news look like a Netanyahu ad?” asked Chris McGreal of The Guardian on July 31, in his article on the “notoriously pro-Israel mainstream media in the U.S.” CONTINUED

 

[toobfreak]

CNN reported objectively and straight forwardly.

BASED ON WHAT.

Without some basis for that determination, your claims are worthless.

 

[Grau]

BASED ON WHAT.

Without some basis for that determination, your claims are worthless.

Briefly put, the staff members of CNN are exposing the owners and management for pandering to the Israeli government, and pro Israel head editors.

As in my earlier comment, I attempt to support my claims with sources that have been credible in the past.

 

[BS Filter]

I always support civilization and progress. The Pals need to be exterminated. Then Iran. The world will be a better place.

 

[Grau]

I always support civilization and progress. The Pals need to be exterminated. Then Iran. The world will be a better place.

The function of a "filter" is to collect and retain whatever it's intended to purify.

Therefore, just as a "dust filter" is full of dust, you've simply demonstrated that a "BS Filter" must be full of ...... otherwise you wouldn't support genocide and World War.

So, when are you going to join the US Military so you can go exterminate some Iranians?

 

[BS Filter]

The function of a "filter" is to collect and retain whatever it's intended to purify.

Therefore, just as a "dust filter" is full of dust, you've simply demonstrated that a "BS Filter" must be full of ...... otherwise you wouldn't support genocide and World War.

So, when are you going to join the US Military so you can go exterminate some Iranians?

I wish I could. I'm 75, but I would gladly push the button to drop bombs on Iran.

 

[toobfreak]

CNN reported objectively and straight forwardly.

Proof of that claim?

 

[Kruska]

I always support civilization and progress. The Pals need to be exterminated. Then Iran. The world will be a better place.

Bullshit,

have you ever considered in your simplistic mindset - that a backward religion (such as Islam that got stuck somewhere in the 18th century) should rather be supported aka placed at friendly and supportive terms - instead of nonstop provocations by the West and Israel, thus inevitably getting into military confrontation with around 1.7 billion followers, that BTW are also in possession of nuclear arms.

Independent of this issue - the Palestinians until today never based their demand for an independent Arab Palestine onto a religious dogma - but solely onto the UN charter in regards to "a peoples right for self-determination".
In absolute contrast to the Zionists who base their claim towards a Zion aka Israel solely - 100% onto a religious dogma.

Someone who calls for the extermination of people and countries, is a mentally deranged person - who very likely has never been in a war or seen combat himself, and therefore lives in the world of PC war-games. Additionally as for the Israel-Palestine matter, up to his neck dug in with Zionist propaganda drivel&shit.

I would yet have to come across a post by a USMB member - who defends/propagates "the right to self-determination of Palestinians" and thus would have called for the extermination of Jews and Israel. !!!

The only ones who constantly support war-crimes and call for the extermination of others on USMB - are solely Zionist shills and supporters.
This is 100% evident in every single thread, pertaining to the topic Israel-Palestine.

 

[BS Filter]

Bullshit,

have you ever considered in your simplistic mindset - that a backward religion (such as Islam that got stuck somewhere in the 18th century) should rather be supported aka placed at friendly and supportive terms - instead of nonstop provocations by the West and Israel, thus inevitably getting into military confrontation with around 1.7 billion followers, that BTW are also in possession of nuclear arms.

Independent of this issue - the Palestinians until today never based their demand for an independent Arab Palestine onto a religious dogma - but solely onto the UN charter in regards to "a peoples right for self-determination".
In absolute contrast to the Zionists who base their claim towards a Zion aka Israel solely - 100% onto a religious dogma.

Someone who calls for the extermination of people and countries, is a mentally deranged person - who very likely has never been in a war or seen combat himself, and therefore lives in the world of PC war-games. Additionally as for the Israel-Palestine matter, up to his neck dug in with Zionist propaganda drivel&shit.

I would yet have to come across a post by a USMB member - who defends/propagates "the right to self-determination of Palestinians" and thus would have called for the extermination of Jews and Israel. !!!

The only ones who constantly support war-crimes and call for the extermination of others on USMB - are solely Zionist shills and supporters.
This is 100% evident in every single thread, pertaining to the topic Israel-Palestine.

So you prefer a backwards misogynistic hateful tribal religion instead of civilization and progress. Good luck.

 

[Kruska]

I wish I could. I'm 75, but I would gladly push the button to drop bombs on Iran.

Your own personal data states: Sep 23, 1958 (Age: 65)

 

[Kruska]

So you prefer a backwards misogynistic hateful tribal religion instead of civilization and progress. Good luck.

I never stated that - obviously you can't read nor comprehend a text either. Thus ignoring all other argumentation and facts of my post.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The function of a "filter" is to collect and retain whatever it's intended to purify.

Therefore, just as a "dust filter" is full of dust, you've simply demonstrated that a "BS Filter" must be full of ...... otherwise you wouldn't support genocide and World War.

So, when are you going to join the US Military so you can go exterminate some Iranians?

You totally nailed it well said. He indeed same as all supporters of genocide against the civilians of palestine here has indeed demonstrated what a BS filter indeed is,could not have said it anty better myself.

 

[BS Filter]

Your own personal data states: Sep 23, 1958 (Age: 65)

I lied.

 

[BS Filter]

I never stated that - obviously you can't read nor comprehend a text either. Thus ignoring all other argumentation and facts of my post.

Your argument is ignorance.

 

[Kruska]

I lied.

That is understood - see your posts pertaining to the matter, and e.g. post #171.

 

[BS Filter]

That is understood - see your posts pertaining to the matter, and e.g. post #171.

What about post 171?

 

[rylah]

Show me a statement by a Palestinian resistance/terrorist group that has EVER claimed to act upon a "divine" mandate.

They ALL, simply state the FACT, that British Palestine was formerly settled for around 1400 years by Arabs, Christians and Muslims - with Jewish people constituting less then 5% of the entire British Mandates population (the vast majority of Middle-East Jews (those "original" Jews) - around 1.000,000 - and British Palestine around 20,000) had been living for centuries and a millennia in Arab/Muslim dominated countries.

Upon Ben Gurion having declared the State of Israel and driven out around a million Palestinians - the Arabs and Egypt in turn evicted around a million Jews. Therefore in order to get a million EUROPEAN Jews (foreigners and mostly Zionists) into British Palestine aka Israel - 1,000,000 local, genuine Jews lost their homes and everything with it.

Therefore it is an undeniable FACT - that the Zionists caused the greatest Jewish Diaspora in the Middle-East since the creation of the Kingdom of David, 2700 years prior to 1948. And the greatest Arab/Palestinian/Muslim Diaspora since the initiation of Islam.

You got that totally wrong as well - no surprise there. The Palestinians are ALL very well and painfully aware about the price they are paying since the Zionists invaded their homes and territory, latest by 1948.

According to a simpleton like you - ALL those e.g. Gaelic and Germanic tribes resisting the Roman invasion into their lands - must have been terrorists and therefore deserved to be eliminated and/or subdued. (Killing Roman settlers in e.g. Raetia - how dare they!!)

BTW, the Nazis would have had every right to bomb the shit out of French civilians - due to the actions of the French Maquis, whilst claiming to "only" attacking and eradicating Marquis members.

Keep in mind that it was the "official" French government that had surrendered to the Nazis !! Therefore unlike the Palestinians and their PLO or Hamas etc., (who have NEVER signed a deceleration of surrender) the French Marquis were indeed terrorists who acted against their own governments surrender deceleration and proclamations. Hence the Marquis was also rightfully persecuted by the own French police forces.

Therefore you must be very confused as to why until today, Marquis members are hailed as being heroes and "true" Frenchmen, and not as a bunch of murdering terrorists.

Clearly, you haven't read the Hamas charter.

The nation Arab, the land Muslim,
Sharia as the legislation.

What is a Caliphate?

 

[Kruska]

Clearly, you haven't read the Hamas charter.

The nation Arab, the land Muslim,
Sharia as the legislation.

What is a Caliphate?

Hamas charter isn't based onto a "divine" mandate. Nowhere does it state, nor is it claimed; Allah came and told/promised me/us.......
It's solely a political manifest. That emphasizes onto Palestinian-Muslim ownership towards British Palestine, incl. Israel and placing it under Sharia law. Therefore solely Hamas, and not Allah nor the Koran call for the destruction of Israel or Jews.

As for the endlessly cited Sahih Al-Bukhari hadith, (The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees.......), its chain of transmission is not connected to Prophet Muhammad, and therefore this invalidates its authenticity in regards to the Koran aka being the words of the prophet Muhammad.

Unlike Zionists who utilize the Torah and the Bible - to claim a "divine" mandate - thus allowing them to justify to themselves their suppression, persecution and murdering of Palestinians, robbing their land and forcefully driving them off - whilst denying them an own sovereign State.

BTW; Hamas’s parent organization, the Muslim Brotherhood , rejects IS’s declaration and version of a caliphate, since IS rejects the democratic process entirely, viewing voting as an act of heresy, whereas Hamas believes voting is permissible within Islamist confines.