Israel's Lies

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RE: Israel's Lies
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BLUF: Israeli sovereignty is not based on conquest. The West Bank was not a conquest over Palestinians.

The Palestinians still hold the sovereignty inside their defined territory.
They'd better hurry up.

"Their" territory keeps shrinking.
Conquest is illegal.
(COMMENT)

The legality of "conquest" is NOT at issue here. Legal or not does not affect the establishment of authority over a territory.

◈ Crimea
◈ China’s Seizure Of Territory In Ladakh
◈ China claims of sovereignty over territorial water in South China Sea
In these very recent (21st Century issues) territorial issues, the fact that all of them are an outcome of military aggression does not change the sovereignty. The Russian exercise sovereign control over the Crimea and the Chinese exercise sovereign control over areas in the South China Sea and the Indian territory of Ladakh. The legitimacy of all these seizures may be questionable. But you don't argue with the Border Guards of the Federal Security Service or the Chinese Border Police.

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RE: Israel's Lies
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BLUF: The real question is if the Arab Palestinians actually exercise sovereignty over any territory at all?

The Palestinians still hold the sovereignty inside their defined territory
["Toddsterpatriot, post: 25289909, member: 29707"]
They'd better hurry up.
"Their" territory keeps shrinking.
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I say that is questionable. Certainly, this nonsense about their sovereignty based on the assigned borders of the early Mandate Period is bogus. But there are two possibilities:

◈ Area "A" for the Fatah Regime
◈ Gaza for the HAMAS Regime

And these are the only possibilities that I see. I have to agree with our friend "Toddsterpatriot." The Hostile Arab Palestinian leadership has not done the Palestinian Nationalist any service.

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The legality of "conquest" is NOT at issue here. Legal or not does not affect the establishment of authority over a territory.
Conquest is illegal. Nothing legal can come from an illegal act.

You have posted a link saying that conquest is illegal,
 

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The legality of "conquest" is NOT at issue here. Legal or not does not affect the establishment of authority over a territory.
Conquest is illegal. Nothing legal can come from an illegal act.

You have posted a link saying that conquest is illegal,
Conquest is illegal.

Maybe if you send a strongly worded letter you can finally get a country?
 

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When the Jews followed the law, they were blessed. When they turned away, they were punished.
The law like this one where God demands genocide?

When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee,... And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Deut 7:1, 2
 

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Where does it say the "master race"? What are you talking about?
For thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God: the Lord thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth. Deut 7:6
 

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And since when do you get to object to what G-d decides?

If there is no G-d... then you are objecting to nothing. In which case, there is nothing for you to object to. After all, people can make up whatever they want.

But.... if there is a G-d.... and he created everything.... then doesn't that mean he has the right to decide what he does with what he created?
If there is a God, it isn't necessarily Yahweh, the Bloody
If there is a God, you don't get to determine what "He" has "decided" and then interpret it for me.
 

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