Israel's Legal Right To Exist

[rylah]

There were no invaders from Egypt, Syria and/or Lebanon that settled in Palestine, you nutter. Even the Turks only ruled the place.

No one, except morons like you, dispute the fact that the ancestors of the Palestinian people are the native people that converted, in time, to Christianity then many to Islam, from Judaism, Roman sects, Samaritan religion, etc.

Then where did the families of these notable "palestinians" like:

Yassir Arafat (PLO), Salah Al-Bardaweel (Hamas), Munib Al-Masri ("palestinian Rothchild"), Jamal Al Afghani, Daud Turki
Mohammed al-Halabi, Issam Al Yamani, Dalal Mughrabi, Hussein al-Araj (Nablus mayor), Mohammed al-Halabi....

originally come from?

 

[Hossfly]

There were no invaders from Egypt, Syria and/or Lebanon that settled in Palestine, you nutter. Even the Turks only ruled the place.

No one, except morons like you, dispute the fact that the ancestors of the Palestinian people are the native people that converted, in time, to Christianity then many to Islam, from Judaism, Roman sects, Samaritan religion, etc.

Then where did the families of these notable "palestinians" like:

Yassir Arafat (PLO), Salah Al-Bardaweel (Hamas), Munib Al-Masri ("palestinian Rothchild"), Jamal Al Afghani, Daud Turki
Mohammed al-Halabi, Issam Al Yamani, Dalal Mughrabi, Hussein al-Araj (Nablus mayor), Mohammed al-Halabi....

originally come from?

I think, rylah, that most of us like to hear it from the "horse's mouth." If this Hamas official says there are no Palestinians, I think most sensible people will go with that.

(Video) Hamas Official: “Who are the Palestinians? The Palestinians don’t come from Palestine.”

 

[Shusha]

There were no invaders from Egypt, Syria and/or Lebanon that settled in Palestine

Seriously? You are claiming that no one from Egypt, Syria or Lebanon EVER migrated to "Palestine"?

That is TOO funny, because Tinman posted a story just this month about a poor, victimized Palestinian who was an invader from Lebanon.

 

[Shusha]

I said settler colonialism that is very different than regular colonialism.​

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Yep. In order to demonize the Jews we have to change the meaning of common words and legal concepts such as colonialism, apartheid, occupation, terrorism, blockade, rights, self-determination, war crime, etc, etc, etc. We have to invent entirely new meanings just so we can demonize the evil Jews.

 

[montelatici]

The data is available from the Survey of Palestine, Vol. 1

A Survey of Palestine Volume 2 | Berman Jewish Policy Archive @ Stanford University

Volume 1 page 212

59. The conclusion is that Arab illegal immigration for the pur- poses of permanent settlement is insignificant.


A Survey of Palestine Volume 1 | Berman Jewish Policy Archive @ Stanford University

 

[Hollie]

On the other hand:

The Arabs in Palestine | Jewish Virtual Library

A Population Boom
As Hussein foresaw, the regeneration of Palestine, and the growth of its population, came only after Jews returned in massive numbers. The Jewish population increased by 470,000 between World War I and World War II while the non-Jewish population rose by 588,000. In fact, the permanent Arab population increased 120 percent between 1922 and 1947.

This rapid growth was a result of several factors. One was immigration from neighboring states — constituting 37 percent of the total immigration to pre-state Israel — by Arabs who wanted to take advantage of the higher standard of living the Jews had made possible. The Arab population also grew because of the improved living conditions created by the Jews as they drained malarial swamps and brought improved sanitation and health care to the region. Thus, for example, the Muslim infant mortality rate fell from 201 per thousand in 1925 to 94 per thousand in 1945 and life expectancy rose from 37 years in 1926 to 49 in 1943.

The Arab population increased the most in cities with large Jewish populations that had created new economic opportunities. From 19221947, the non-Jewish population increased 290 percent in Haifa, 131 percent in Jerusalem and 158 percent in Jaffa. The growth in Arab towns was more modest: 42 percent in Nablus, 78 percent in Jenin and 37 percent in Bethlehem.



Quite clearly, the Arab-Islamist invaders had an agenda.

 

[Eloy]

P F Tinmore, et al,
... The Palestine Mandate is of a very special character. While it follows the main lines laid down by the Covenant for "A" Mandates, it also contains a number of provisions designed to apply the policy defined by the "Balfour Declaration" of November 2nd, 1917. By this declaration, the British Government had announced its intention to encourage the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people ...

Notice, the English were happy to promise land to the Jews for a home as long as it was not in England.

Now how do you know that, Eloy? BTW, do you think the British people these days are happy with so many Muslims in their midst. No doubt this never crosses your mind since there are no Jews involved.

I know that the English promised land which was not theirs to the Jews and as far away from England the better. Antisemitism among the English ruling class is endemic. History proves me right. As for Muslims, the English have voted to leave the European Union in large part due to their xenophobia and racism.

 

[montelatici]

On the other hand:

The Arabs in Palestine | Jewish Virtual Library

A Population Boom
As Hussein foresaw, the regeneration of Palestine, and the growth of its population, came only after Jews returned in massive numbers. The Jewish population increased by 470,000 between World War I and World War II while the non-Jewish population rose by 588,000. In fact, the permanent Arab population increased 120 percent between 1922 and 1947.

This rapid growth was a result of several factors. One was immigration from neighboring states — constituting 37 percent of the total immigration to pre-state Israel — by Arabs who wanted to take advantage of the higher standard of living the Jews had made possible. The Arab population also grew because of the improved living conditions created by the Jews as they drained malarial swamps and brought improved sanitation and health care to the region. Thus, for example, the Muslim infant mortality rate fell from 201 per thousand in 1925 to 94 per thousand in 1945 and life expectancy rose from 37 years in 1926 to 49 in 1943.

The Arab population increased the most in cities with large Jewish populations that had created new economic opportunities. From 19221947, the non-Jewish population increased 290 percent in Haifa, 131 percent in Jerusalem and 158 percent in Jaffa. The growth in Arab towns was more modest: 42 percent in Nablus, 78 percent in Jenin and 37 percent in Bethlehem.



Quite clearly, the Arab-Islamist invaders had an agenda.

Jewish Virtual Library fantasy and propaganda versus official census data. You are a hoot Hollie. Don't you realize that you are making a fool of yourself?

 

[Hollie]

On the other hand:

The Arabs in Palestine | Jewish Virtual Library

A Population Boom
As Hussein foresaw, the regeneration of Palestine, and the growth of its population, came only after Jews returned in massive numbers. The Jewish population increased by 470,000 between World War I and World War II while the non-Jewish population rose by 588,000. In fact, the permanent Arab population increased 120 percent between 1922 and 1947.

This rapid growth was a result of several factors. One was immigration from neighboring states — constituting 37 percent of the total immigration to pre-state Israel — by Arabs who wanted to take advantage of the higher standard of living the Jews had made possible. The Arab population also grew because of the improved living conditions created by the Jews as they drained malarial swamps and brought improved sanitation and health care to the region. Thus, for example, the Muslim infant mortality rate fell from 201 per thousand in 1925 to 94 per thousand in 1945 and life expectancy rose from 37 years in 1926 to 49 in 1943.

The Arab population increased the most in cities with large Jewish populations that had created new economic opportunities. From 19221947, the non-Jewish population increased 290 percent in Haifa, 131 percent in Jerusalem and 158 percent in Jaffa. The growth in Arab towns was more modest: 42 percent in Nablus, 78 percent in Jenin and 37 percent in Bethlehem.



Quite clearly, the Arab-Islamist invaders had an agenda.

Jewish Virtual Library fantasy and propaganda versus official census data. You are a hoot Hollie. Don't you realize that you are making a fool of yourself?

How predictable. Monty gets infuriated when his claims are refuted and has no recourse but to launch himself into one of his typical, saliva-slinging tirades.

What a hoot.

 

[MJB12741]

Lets show some compassion for the poor guy. He lives here in the USA & suffers 24/7 with our great countries support for Israel. And not even one of those Zionists ever offered to help him leave here to go live in some Muslim country where he would be loved.

 

[montelatici]

On the other hand:

The Arabs in Palestine | Jewish Virtual Library

A Population Boom
As Hussein foresaw, the regeneration of Palestine, and the growth of its population, came only after Jews returned in massive numbers. The Jewish population increased by 470,000 between World War I and World War II while the non-Jewish population rose by 588,000. In fact, the permanent Arab population increased 120 percent between 1922 and 1947.

This rapid growth was a result of several factors. One was immigration from neighboring states — constituting 37 percent of the total immigration to pre-state Israel — by Arabs who wanted to take advantage of the higher standard of living the Jews had made possible. The Arab population also grew because of the improved living conditions created by the Jews as they drained malarial swamps and brought improved sanitation and health care to the region. Thus, for example, the Muslim infant mortality rate fell from 201 per thousand in 1925 to 94 per thousand in 1945 and life expectancy rose from 37 years in 1926 to 49 in 1943.

The Arab population increased the most in cities with large Jewish populations that had created new economic opportunities. From 19221947, the non-Jewish population increased 290 percent in Haifa, 131 percent in Jerusalem and 158 percent in Jaffa. The growth in Arab towns was more modest: 42 percent in Nablus, 78 percent in Jenin and 37 percent in Bethlehem.



Quite clearly, the Arab-Islamist invaders had an agenda.

Jewish Virtual Library fantasy and propaganda versus official census data. You are a hoot Hollie. Don't you realize that you are making a fool of yourself?

How predictable. Monty gets infuriated when his claims are refuted and has no recourse but to launch himself into one of his typical, saliva-slinging tirades.

What a hoot.

They are not claims at all. They are official census data. You are so silly, it is embarrassing.

 

[Hollie]

On the other hand:

The Arabs in Palestine | Jewish Virtual Library

A Population Boom
As Hussein foresaw, the regeneration of Palestine, and the growth of its population, came only after Jews returned in massive numbers. The Jewish population increased by 470,000 between World War I and World War II while the non-Jewish population rose by 588,000. In fact, the permanent Arab population increased 120 percent between 1922 and 1947.

This rapid growth was a result of several factors. One was immigration from neighboring states — constituting 37 percent of the total immigration to pre-state Israel — by Arabs who wanted to take advantage of the higher standard of living the Jews had made possible. The Arab population also grew because of the improved living conditions created by the Jews as they drained malarial swamps and brought improved sanitation and health care to the region. Thus, for example, the Muslim infant mortality rate fell from 201 per thousand in 1925 to 94 per thousand in 1945 and life expectancy rose from 37 years in 1926 to 49 in 1943.

The Arab population increased the most in cities with large Jewish populations that had created new economic opportunities. From 19221947, the non-Jewish population increased 290 percent in Haifa, 131 percent in Jerusalem and 158 percent in Jaffa. The growth in Arab towns was more modest: 42 percent in Nablus, 78 percent in Jenin and 37 percent in Bethlehem.



Quite clearly, the Arab-Islamist invaders had an agenda.

Jewish Virtual Library fantasy and propaganda versus official census data. You are a hoot Hollie. Don't you realize that you are making a fool of yourself?

How predictable. Monty gets infuriated when his claims are refuted and has no recourse but to launch himself into one of his typical, saliva-slinging tirades.

What a hoot.

They are not claims at all. They are official census data. You are so silly, it is embarrassing.

They are just claims. It's unfortunate for you that refutation to your cutting and pasting is so easily achieved.

Gullibility on your part is not an attribute you can impose on others.

 

[montelatici]

No, they are official survey data compiled by the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry in 1946 you idiot.

 

[Hossfly]

P F Tinmore, et al,
... The Palestine Mandate is of a very special character. While it follows the main lines laid down by the Covenant for "A" Mandates, it also contains a number of provisions designed to apply the policy defined by the "Balfour Declaration" of November 2nd, 1917. By this declaration, the British Government had announced its intention to encourage the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people ...

Notice, the English were happy to promise land to the Jews for a home as long as it was not in England.

Now how do you know that, Eloy? BTW, do you think the British people these days are happy with so many Muslims in their midst. No doubt this never crosses your mind since there are no Jews involved.

I know that the English promised land which was not theirs to the Jews and as far away from England the better. Antisemitism among the English ruling class is endemic. History proves me right. As for Muslims, the English have voted to leave the European Union in large part due to their xenophobia and racism.

It is quite apparent, Eloy, that anti-Semitism is quite endemic among many posters on these various forums. They are too interested in posting negatively about the Jews and Israel instead of concentrating on what is happening in other areas of the huge Middle East where hundreds of thousands have been killed and millions have been displaced. As for England, do you really think the English like having "no go" areas in their country where even the police and fire department are afraid to go? BYW, Eloy, could you prove to us that the English wanted the Jews as far away from them as possible?


I certainly hope that Eloy has sent in his contribution to one of the relief organizations helping the Muslims who have been displaced in the Middle East even though they haven't been displaced because of the Jews.. This is one of the worst calamities since World War II with so many displaced people, and yet the anti-Semites don't want to recognize this, but only want to concentrate on one tiny area of the Middle East.

 

[Hollie]

No, they are official survey data compiled by the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry in 1946 you idiot.

Oh, yes. I somehow missed your whining in reference to your so-called "official" data. "Offical".... because I say so.

Such an angry, Monty.

What a hoot.

 

[Eloy]

P F Tinmore, et al,
... The Palestine Mandate is of a very special character. While it follows the main lines laid down by the Covenant for "A" Mandates, it also contains a number of provisions designed to apply the policy defined by the "Balfour Declaration" of November 2nd, 1917. By this declaration, the British Government had announced its intention to encourage the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people ...

Notice, the English were happy to promise land to the Jews for a home as long as it was not in England.

Now how do you know that, Eloy? BTW, do you think the British people these days are happy with so many Muslims in their midst. No doubt this never crosses your mind since there are no Jews involved.

I know that the English promised land which was not theirs to the Jews and as far away from England the better. Antisemitism among the English ruling class is endemic. History proves me right. As for Muslims, the English have voted to leave the European Union in large part due to their xenophobia and racism.

It is quite apparent, Eloy, that anti-Semitism is quite endemic among many posters on these various forums. They are too interested in posting negatively about the Jews and Israel instead of concentrating on what is happening in other areas of the huge Middle East where hundreds of thousands have been killed and millions have been displaced. As for England, do you really think the English like having "no go" areas in their country where even the police and fire department are afraid to go? BYW, Eloy, could you prove to us that the English wanted the Jews as far away from them as possible?


I certainly hope that Eloy has sent in his contribution to one of the relief organizations helping the Muslims who have been displaced in the Middle East even though they haven't been displaced because of the Jews.. This is one of the worst calamities since World War II with so many displaced people, and yet the anti-Semites don't want to recognize this, but only want to concentrate on one tiny area of the Middle East.

The charge of antisemitism directed against posters by you and a couple of others is made against anyone who criticizes Israel. I see many posts which criticize the United States President and the US government made almost exclusively by Americans, I suspect. Yet these posters are not tarred with being anti-American. Criticizing the government and politicians is normal in western democracies but to criticize the state of Israel which boasts of being a democracy will incur the accusation of being antisemitic. It is called "the new antisemitism" in order to silence criticism. You and a couple of others need to understand that the criticism of a country's policies and its politicians is normal in a free society and a free message board such as this one.

 

[Hossfly]

P F Tinmore, et al,
... The Palestine Mandate is of a very special character. While it follows the main lines laid down by the Covenant for "A" Mandates, it also contains a number of provisions designed to apply the policy defined by the "Balfour Declaration" of November 2nd, 1917. By this declaration, the British Government had announced its intention to encourage the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people ...

Notice, the English were happy to promise land to the Jews for a home as long as it was not in England.

Now how do you know that, Eloy? BTW, do you think the British people these days are happy with so many Muslims in their midst. No doubt this never crosses your mind since there are no Jews involved.

I know that the English promised land which was not theirs to the Jews and as far away from England the better. Antisemitism among the English ruling class is endemic. History proves me right. As for Muslims, the English have voted to leave the European Union in large part due to their xenophobia and racism.

It is quite apparent, Eloy, that anti-Semitism is quite endemic among many posters on these various forums. They are too interested in posting negatively about the Jews and Israel instead of concentrating on what is happening in other areas of the huge Middle East where hundreds of thousands have been killed and millions have been displaced. As for England, do you really think the English like having "no go" areas in their country where even the police and fire department are afraid to go? BYW, Eloy, could you prove to us that the English wanted the Jews as far away from them as possible?


I certainly hope that Eloy has sent in his contribution to one of the relief organizations helping the Muslims who have been displaced in the Middle East even though they haven't been displaced because of the Jews.. This is one of the worst calamities since World War II with so many displaced people, and yet the anti-Semites don't want to recognize this, but only want to concentrate on one tiny area of the Middle East.

The charge of antisemitism directed against posters by you and a couple of others is made against anyone who criticizes Israel. I see many posts which criticize the United States President and the US government made almost exclusively by Americans, I suspect. Yet these posters are not tarred with being anti-American. Criticizing the government and politicians is normal in western democracies but to criticize the state of Israel which boasts of being a democracy will incur the accusation of being antisemitic. It is called "the new antisemitism" in order to silence criticism. You and a couple of others need to understand that the criticism of a country's policies and its politicians is normal in a free society and a free message board such as this one.

Yowsuh, boss. Criticism is normal and healthy but jew-hate just ain't kosher.

 

[theliq]

You are merely a SYNTHETIC ZIONIST BUT NOT A JEW,.....I am the MAGNIFICENT

And your great grandparents are rolling in their graves.

Nuh......they were like me,MAGNIFICENT

Statistically unlikely...3rd generation self hating Jews usually convert to another religion, let alone 4th generation self hating Jews.

Nonsense........my ancestors could be Jewish for all I know,what I do know is that our family unlike yours probably are not haters to anyone,as for myself I am not anti-semetic because I love Shepardic Jews and Palestinians,for they are the only Semetic Peoples on Earth......What I despise(and this is where you and others err) is the Terrorist Organization The Zionists.....a mixture of Ashkenazi and God knows who else....These SYNTHETIC JEWS mainly are part of this Organization that were CREATED back in the late 1880's by an Athiest Jew called Hertzel,moreover this Organization The Zionists collaborated with the Nazis,sending Jews to their DEATH,May they Rest In Peace.

When You start SPEWING about me and my Ancestors you want to Watch Your Mouth,because you are a two bit LIAR,like the rest of your Horde....It is people like You who have diminished other Jews,and You give Jews a Bad name........Your HYPOCRICY knows NO BOUNDS,you just think you can come on here and Smear anyone who disagrees with your rampant Zionist NON SENSE.

I realize you have no sembalence sic of Jewish history or other peoples history......yet you believe in that pin-brain of yours you can say what you like...you have pruefrock in your head.I THE MAGNIFICENT keep you honest.

Still waiting for your evidence to support your LIES that Zionists are terrorists. Not one piece of evidence as you know they all trace back to the hate sites you frequent.

How can Turks, pakistanis and afghani's be semitic ?

Only A Fool Would Lean Upon,Lean Upon His Own Misunderstandings....................Only theliq Brought The Truth,Brought The Truth,In Due Season

Plenty of sites to view ZIONIST TERRORISM...just type in Zionist Terrorism,if you have the desire because you can take your pick,buggered if I'm going to keep doing it for you,time and time again.


As for the Turkic(Not Turks from Turkey,you moron) Tribes and others from Central Asia who converted to be Jews(who invariably also become Zionists) Can NEVER BE SEMITIC,but they are Synthetic Jews.........Where in my prose did I mention Turks,Pakistanis and Afghans?????Methinks you are loopy

PS..unlike YOU...I DON'T DO HATE SITES

 

[theliq]

Notice, the English were happy to promise land to the Jews for a home as long as it was not in England.

Now how do you know that, Eloy? BTW, do you think the British people these days are happy with so many Muslims in their midst. No doubt this never crosses your mind since there are no Jews involved.

I know that the English promised land which was not theirs to the Jews and as far away from England the better. Antisemitism among the English ruling class is endemic. History proves me right. As for Muslims, the English have voted to leave the European Union in large part due to their xenophobia and racism.

It is quite apparent, Eloy, that anti-Semitism is quite endemic among many posters on these various forums. They are too interested in posting negatively about the Jews and Israel instead of concentrating on what is happening in other areas of the huge Middle East where hundreds of thousands have been killed and millions have been displaced. As for England, do you really think the English like having "no go" areas in their country where even the police and fire department are afraid to go? BYW, Eloy, could you prove to us that the English wanted the Jews as far away from them as possible?


I certainly hope that Eloy has sent in his contribution to one of the relief organizations helping the Muslims who have been displaced in the Middle East even though they haven't been displaced because of the Jews.. This is one of the worst calamities since World War II with so many displaced people, and yet the anti-Semites don't want to recognize this, but only want to concentrate on one tiny area of the Middle East.

The charge of antisemitism directed against posters by you and a couple of others is made against anyone who criticizes Israel. I see many posts which criticize the United States President and the US government made almost exclusively by Americans, I suspect. Yet these posters are not tarred with being anti-American. Criticizing the government and politicians is normal in western democracies but to criticize the state of Israel which boasts of being a democracy will incur the accusation of being antisemitic. It is called "the new antisemitism" in order to silence criticism. You and a couple of others need to understand that the criticism of a country's policies and its politicians is normal in a free society and a free message board such as this one.

Yowsuh, boss. Criticism is normal and healthy but jew-hate just ain't kosher.

Funny how the Clods on here assume wrongly that criticism of Zionists is Anti-Semitic,it is not but it is a Critique of Zionist Terrorism Only,...nothing to do with Anti-Semitism..steve

 

[theliq]

Notice, the English were happy to promise land to the Jews for a home as long as it was not in England.

Now how do you know that, Eloy? BTW, do you think the British people these days are happy with so many Muslims in their midst. No doubt this never crosses your mind since there are no Jews involved.

I know that the English promised land which was not theirs to the Jews and as far away from England the better. Antisemitism among the English ruling class is endemic. History proves me right. As for Muslims, the English have voted to leave the European Union in large part due to their xenophobia and racism.

It is quite apparent, Eloy, that anti-Semitism is quite endemic among many posters on these various forums. They are too interested in posting negatively about the Jews and Israel instead of concentrating on what is happening in other areas of the huge Middle East where hundreds of thousands have been killed and millions have been displaced. As for England, do you really think the English like having "no go" areas in their country where even the police and fire department are afraid to go? BYW, Eloy, could you prove to us that the English wanted the Jews as far away from them as possible?


I certainly hope that Eloy has sent in his contribution to one of the relief organizations helping the Muslims who have been displaced in the Middle East even though they haven't been displaced because of the Jews.. This is one of the worst calamities since World War II with so many displaced people, and yet the anti-Semites don't want to recognize this, but only want to concentrate on one tiny area of the Middle East.

The charge of antisemitism directed against posters by you and a couple of others is made against anyone who criticizes Israel. I see many posts which criticize the United States President and the US government made almost exclusively by Americans, I suspect. Yet these posters are not tarred with being anti-American. Criticizing the government and politicians is normal in western democracies but to criticize the state of Israel which boasts of being a democracy will incur the accusation of being antisemitic. It is called "the new antisemitism" in order to silence criticism. You and a couple of others need to understand that the criticism of a country's policies and its politicians is normal in a free society and a free message board such as this one.

Yowsuh, boss. Criticism is normal and healthy but jew-hate just ain't kosher.

You defend the indefensible Hoss...and shamefully Critisize others of whom you disagree.....this is not dialogue at all,just throwing red-herrings around to disguise the facts..............not good enough Hossie...steve