Israel's attack on Gaza is revenge for the Palestinians' refusal to accept occupation

[Kondor3]

However it is common knowledge that Hamas are using human shields and firing from hospitals, schools, mosques, etc. .

It's propaganda that you have swallowed. Go justify murder elsewhere.

Like Hamas does and your propaganda...??

Four-O marks for that one, old boy !

 

[docmauser1]

Israel provoked Hamas, just like they always have. The rockets are not a threat, they are an excuse for Israel to keep committing crimes against humanity.

Oh, the indignity of it! Hamass is in collusion with Israel!!

 

[docmauser1]

No, the solution for the rockets is to end the occupation and blockade and let the Palestinian's have their freedom.

But palistanians absolutely got to have an occupation! What's a palistanian without an occupation? Just another garden-variety arab!

 

[Daniyel]

They call it however they like to, Occupation/Israel blockade - playing the tunes fit for the crowd.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Yes. they are despicable cowards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMzW9Mq_R6A

The despicable cowards are the Zionist scum that murder children.

Well, you would think that wouldn't you. However it is common knowledge that Hamas are using human shields and firing from hospitals, schools, mosques, etc. If Israel weren't so considerate about avoiding civilian targets this war would have been done and dusted days ago. It is purely because the IDF is avoiding civilians that it is dragging on so long. What sort of country would spend time, effort and money prewarning its enemy of impending airstrikes.

However it is common knowledge that Hamas are using human shields

Yeah, yeah, we have heard that same old bullshit a gazillion times.

You need some fresh propaganda.

 

[Kondor3]

The despicable cowards are the Zionist scum that murder children.

Well, you would think that wouldn't you. However it is common knowledge that Hamas are using human shields and firing from hospitals, schools, mosques, etc. If Israel weren't so considerate about avoiding civilian targets this war would have been done and dusted days ago. It is purely because the IDF is avoiding civilians that it is dragging on so long. What sort of country would spend time, effort and money prewarning its enemy of impending airstrikes.

However it is common knowledge that Hamas are using human shields

Yeah, yeah, we have heard that same old bullshit a gazillion times...

Because Hamas had hidden behind the skirts of its women and children a gazillion times?

...You need some fresh propaganda.

Why? Your side keeps refilling this particular well (human shields). A never-ending supply of Hamas villainy and cowardice to draw from.

 

[P F Tinmore]

In the past two weeks we were busy providing evidence and footage.
Do you have any way to disprove it?

I do.

Israeli propaganda, dutifully echoed by the Western media, portrays the pummeling of Gaza as a “defensive” action by Tel Aviv in response to rocket attacks launched from Gazan territory against Israel. As of Tuesday night, however, these attacks had not claimed one Israeli life, nor left anyone seriously wounded. Ignored is the fact that the rocket attacks themselves were launched in response to earlier Israeli bombings, assassinations and wholesale arrests of Palestinian politicians and militants.

Israel provoked Hamas, just like they always have.

The rockets are not a threat, they are an excuse for Israel to keep committing crimes against humanity.

BTW, all your examples of "human shields", do not satisfy the international definition of using human shields.

But keep trying, maybe your luck will change?

You don't understand do you?? Whenever Hamas fired rockets, Israel is going to retaliate.
The "we're launching rockets at Israel because of what they do in the West Bank' is bullshit. It's not a legitimate response. You don't launch rockets at the most militarized country in the entire region and then complain when they hit you back ten times harder.
There is NO EXCUSE TO START LAUNCHING ROCKETS .
What the fuck is Hamas trying to prove by launching them anyway???

It makes worthless pieces of shit like Kerry and Moon scurry around the planet trying to get a ceasefire that does not include Palestinian rights. The only place these assholes have not been is Gaza.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Well, you would think that wouldn't you. However it is common knowledge that Hamas are using human shields and firing from hospitals, schools, mosques, etc. If Israel weren't so considerate about avoiding civilian targets this war would have been done and dusted days ago. It is purely because the IDF is avoiding civilians that it is dragging on so long. What sort of country would spend time, effort and money prewarning its enemy of impending airstrikes.

Yeah, yeah, we have heard that same old bullshit a gazillion times...

Because Hamas had hidden behind the skirts of its women and children a gazillion times?

...You need some fresh propaganda.

Why? Your side keeps refilling this particular well (human shields). A never-ending supply of Hamas villainy and cowardice to draw from.

Yeah, yeah, those lying sacks of crap in Israel sang that same song when they were bombing the crap out of the civilians in Lebanon.

 

[toastman]

Well they "topped" 15 more IDF today, and tomorrow May bring more, How many men are the Arm chair rangers willing to lose

Huh? Link?

 

[Disir]

Say what you will about Hamas' rocket fire, at least they managed to scratch the surface of Israel's faith in the normalcy of its domination of another people.
By Amira Hass | Jul. 23, 2014 | 3:30 AM | 4

There is method in madness, and the Israeli insanity, which refuses to grasp the extent of its revenge in Gaza, has very good reasons for being the way it is. The entire nation is the army, the army is the nation, and both are represented by a Jewish-democratic government and a loyal press, and the four of them work together to stave off the great betrayal: the Palestinians’ refusal to recognize the normalcy of the situation.
The Palestinians are disobedient. They refuse to adapt. This is after we thought it was working for us, with VIP treatment for a few of them and an opportunity for swollen bank accounts for some, and with enormous donations from the United States and Europe that nurture the pockets of imaginary Palestinian rule.

The insistent, steadfast demonstrations in West Bank villages have not even scratched the surface of the Israeli faith in the normalcy of our domination of another people. The boycott, divestment and sanctions movement did manage to confuse our ego a bit, but it is still not enough to make Israelis want to get the message. The Palestinian reconciliation government seemed to move us another step forward; it had the potential to embark on the path of rejecting the show of normalcy dictated by Israel, but too many forces within Fatah and Hamas did not support it.

Then it was the turn of Hamas’ rockets to disturb the occupier’s rest. Say what you will about it, but they succeeded in doing what the demonstrations, the boycott of Tapuzina orange drink and the concert cancellations did not.

Nation, army, government and press: You have eyes and ears, yet you will not see and you will not hear. You still hope that the Palestinian blood we have already shed and have yet to shed will win a long-term lull, which will bring us back to occupation as usual. You refuse to use your competence to stop in time, before an even bigger disaster takes place — just as you refused the time before, and the time before that.
And boy, are you competent when you want to be. The armed Hamas operatives who emerged from the tunnel shaft on Kibbutz Nir Am on Monday were dressed as Israeli soldiers. Haaretz’s Amos Harel writes that in the first moments, the field commanders were not sure whether they were soldiers or terrorists. “Finally, thanks to an aerial photograph taken by a drone, they were found to be Hamas operatives,” writes Harel. “They were carrying Kalashnikov rifles, which the Israeli army does not use.”

So the photographs taken by the drone can be very precise when its operators wish. It can discern whether there are children on the seashore or on the roof — children who, even for the legal acrobats in the Justice Ministry and the army, are not a justifiable target for our bombs. The drone can also discern that a rescue team has arrived to pull out wounded people, that families are fleeing their homes. All this can be shown in a close-up photograph taken by a drone, at high enough resolution that the operators of the bombs and the shells have no reason to press the “kill” button on their keyboards.

But for some reason, the eye of the drone that can tell the difference between various makes of rifles cannot tell that this figure over here is a child, and that is a mother or a grandmother. Instead, all are given a death sentence.

The Israeliness of the moment is like that drone. It chooses to see blearily. It clings closely to the good, comfortable life of a master nation, unwilling to allow its subjects to interfere with it. Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon translated that into political language when he said, “We will not agree to recognize the reconciliation government, but other arrangements such as controlling crossing points is something we can accept.

[Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Mahmoud] Abbas will control the crossing points, but he will not control the Gaza Strip itself.”

That is the routine we are cultivating. Gaza and the West Bank are cut off. Hamas controls the Gaza Strip, but under conditions that we dictate, just as Fatah and the PA “rule” in their pockets in the West Bank, in accordance with our conditions. If the Palestinians need to be tamed at times, we will tame them with blood and with more blood. And peace be upon Israel.

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Israel has banned so many peaceful methods of resistance, and changed laws to make legal methods no longer legal, they seem to be insisting on only armed resistance, in which Israel can kill it's way out of the issue.

And yet, even the tiny amount of force that opposes it exposes Israeli lies. And Israeli fascist methods of repression is exposing Israel for what it truly is.

Which ones?

 

[toastman]

Well, you would think that wouldn't you. However it is common knowledge that Hamas are using human shields and firing from hospitals, schools, mosques, etc. If Israel weren't so considerate about avoiding civilian targets this war would have been done and dusted days ago. It is purely because the IDF is avoiding civilians that it is dragging on so long. What sort of country would spend time, effort and money prewarning its enemy of impending airstrikes.

Yeah, yeah, we have heard that same old bullshit a gazillion times...

Because Hamas had hidden behind the skirts of its women and children a gazillion times?

...You need some fresh propaganda.

Why? Your side keeps refilling this particular well (human shields). A never-ending supply of Hamas villainy and cowardice to draw from.

It's pretty obvious by now that Tinmore cannot handle the truth and will defend Hamas no matter what they do.
Let him peddle his lies, no one believes him anyway

 

[toastman]

Yeah, yeah, we have heard that same old bullshit a gazillion times...

Because Hamas had hidden behind the skirts of its women and children a gazillion times?

...You need some fresh propaganda.

Why? Your side keeps refilling this particular well (human shields). A never-ending supply of Hamas villainy and cowardice to draw from.

Yeah, yeah, those lying sacks of crap in Israel sang that same song when they were bombing the crap out of the civilians in Lebanon.

How many bombs would Israel have dropped had Hezbollah not kidnapped their soldiers in that cross border raid in 2006, as well as launching rockets???
Answer honestly....if you can..

 

[toastman]

You don't understand do you?? Whenever Hamas fired rockets, Israel is going to retaliate.

Boy are you fucked in the head! The rockets ARE the retaliation!

If the Israeli's didn't want rockets, end the fuckin' occupation and stop launching missile strikes from drones every week.

The "we're launching rockets at Israel because of what they do in the West Bank' is bullshit.

Why is it bullshit? You think you can arrest 500 of my people and I won't do anything about it? What's bullshit, is you thinking you can constantly treat people like garbage and they won't care.

But it IS a response, not the initial action.

You can when you were obviously set up and they provoked your response.

There is NO EXCUSE TO START LAUNCHING ROCKETS .

Except when defending yourselves from the vicious assholes next door.

What the fuck is Hamas trying to prove by launching them anyway???

That you can't get your way all the time. That you ain't the big bad ass you think you are! All that army and you can't stop a few home made rockets?

Are you claiming yourself that the rockets are in response to Israeli actions in the West Bank, or did Hamas say so. I'm talking specifically of the rockets that lead to Israel launching operation protective edge.
If Hamas said so, give me a link..

 

[irosie91]

the arguments against the military policies of Israel are not entirely logical or---
"real" The argument that since Israel has used technology to protect its own
army and plan its own moves ------Israel is OBLIGATED to use AS MUCH technology
for the protection of gazan people-------is----actually not true nor is it practical or
even possible. In fact---it is ludicrous. War is a great effort and accomplished
whilst the players struggle to accomplish a mission AND survive AND protect
ones mates <<< these are the prime directives. There is another directive----
DO NOT TARGET NON PLAYERS ---it is cruel and unnecessary for the accomplishment
of the prime directives At no time has any military been directed to "RISK YOUR
MISSION, YOUR LIFE , and LIVES OF YOUR MATES....to protect the non players.
ALL of the vessels of war (vessels of war being personnel, weapons, technical
equiptment) have limited capacity over time and space. They are EXPENDED
in order to accomplish the prine directives ----expending them on protecting the
non players DOES COMPROMISE the accomplishment of the prime directives.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Yeah, yeah, we have heard that same old bullshit a gazillion times...

Because Hamas had hidden behind the skirts of its women and children a gazillion times?

...You need some fresh propaganda.

Why? Your side keeps refilling this particular well (human shields). A never-ending supply of Hamas villainy and cowardice to draw from.

It's pretty obvious by now that Tinmore cannot handle the truth and will defend Hamas no matter what they do.
Let him peddle his lies, no one believes him anyway

Israel always spouts that lie whenever it is killing civilians by the hundreds.

 

[irosie91]

Because Hamas had hidden behind the skirts of its women and children a gazillion times?


Why? Your side keeps refilling this particular well (human shields). A never-ending supply of Hamas villainy and cowardice to draw from.

It's pretty obvious by now that Tinmore cannot handle the truth and will defend Hamas no matter what they do.
Let him peddle his lies, no one believes him anyway

Israel always spouts that lie whenever it is killing civilians by the hundreds.

the ummah always SPOUTS WE ARE DEFENDING AGAINST THE ENEMEEEEEES OF ISAAAAAM
whenever they are in the process of murdering 100s of millions and stealing the lands of half the world

 

[Mojo2]

Flechette rounds are cool! All the kids love them. They should make them in variety of different colors. "Hey Abdullah, check out this purple piece of metal sticking out of my eye!". Collect all 4 and get a free cluster bomb.

You think it is comical that Hamas are causing the deaths of little kids?

I think it's comical that you'd defend Israel no matter what Israel does. It's doubly ironic that Israel created Hamas. Now that's comical.