Israel's attack on Gaza is revenge for the Palestinians' refusal to accept occupation

[docmauser1]

Israel's attack on Gaza is revenge for the Palestinians' refusal to accept occupation

Au contraire! Palistanians have accepted and pursue their occupation quite happily, even fervently, I must add.

 

[Daniyel]

Israel, by blockading Gaza, started the war. A blockade is an act of war.

Totally related.
This is how they managed to enter Israel during the blockade.




Removing the blockade? Sure.
Act of war or not..I'm not sure how sane you are, but we are in War with terrorists for decades, so of course there will be acts of war, and according to the IDF Spokesmen this is just the begging.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

The American media only reports when Israel strikes back. If you had only followed this Board, you would have read the posts when Lipush was constantly saying that there were Red Alerts in her area (the south of Israel). It eventually became the normal way of life for the southern residents of Israel, or as they say, "The new normal".

 

[docmauser1]

Gaza was occupied by Egypt prior to 1967 and then occupied by Israel after 1967.

And brotherly egyptians didn't even mull setting palistanians with a state?!

 

[Lipush]

Say what you will about Hamas' rocket fire, at least they managed to scratch the surface of Israel's faith in the normalcy of its domination of another people.
By Amira Hass | Jul. 23, 2014 | 3:30 AM | 4

There is method in madness, and the Israeli insanity, which refuses to grasp the extent of its revenge in Gaza, has very good reasons for being the way it is. The entire nation is the army, the army is the nation, and both are represented by a Jewish-democratic government and a loyal press, and the four of them work together to stave off the great betrayal: the Palestinians’ refusal to recognize the normalcy of the situation.
The Palestinians are disobedient. They refuse to adapt. This is after we thought it was working for us, with VIP treatment for a few of them and an opportunity for swollen bank accounts for some, and with enormous donations from the United States and Europe that nurture the pockets of imaginary Palestinian rule.

The insistent, steadfast demonstrations in West Bank villages have not even scratched the surface of the Israeli faith in the normalcy of our domination of another people. The boycott, divestment and sanctions movement did manage to confuse our ego a bit, but it is still not enough to make Israelis want to get the message. The Palestinian reconciliation government seemed to move us another step forward; it had the potential to embark on the path of rejecting the show of normalcy dictated by Israel, but too many forces within Fatah and Hamas did not support it.

Then it was the turn of Hamas’ rockets to disturb the occupier’s rest. Say what you will about it, but they succeeded in doing what the demonstrations, the boycott of Tapuzina orange drink and the concert cancellations did not.

Nation, army, government and press: You have eyes and ears, yet you will not see and you will not hear. You still hope that the Palestinian blood we have already shed and have yet to shed will win a long-term lull, which will bring us back to occupation as usual. You refuse to use your competence to stop in time, before an even bigger disaster takes place — just as you refused the time before, and the time before that.
And boy, are you competent when you want to be. The armed Hamas operatives who emerged from the tunnel shaft on Kibbutz Nir Am on Monday were dressed as Israeli soldiers. Haaretz’s Amos Harel writes that in the first moments, the field commanders were not sure whether they were soldiers or terrorists. “Finally, thanks to an aerial photograph taken by a drone, they were found to be Hamas operatives,” writes Harel. “They were carrying Kalashnikov rifles, which the Israeli army does not use.”

So the photographs taken by the drone can be very precise when its operators wish. It can discern whether there are children on the seashore or on the roof — children who, even for the legal acrobats in the Justice Ministry and the army, are not a justifiable target for our bombs. The drone can also discern that a rescue team has arrived to pull out wounded people, that families are fleeing their homes. All this can be shown in a close-up photograph taken by a drone, at high enough resolution that the operators of the bombs and the shells have no reason to press the “kill” button on their keyboards.

But for some reason, the eye of the drone that can tell the difference between various makes of rifles cannot tell that this figure over here is a child, and that is a mother or a grandmother. Instead, all are given a death sentence.

The Israeliness of the moment is like that drone. It chooses to see blearily. It clings closely to the good, comfortable life of a master nation, unwilling to allow its subjects to interfere with it. Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon translated that into political language when he said, “We will not agree to recognize the reconciliation government, but other arrangements such as controlling crossing points is something we can accept.

[Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Mahmoud] Abbas will control the crossing points, but he will not control the Gaza Strip itself.”

That is the routine we are cultivating. Gaza and the West Bank are cut off. Hamas controls the Gaza Strip, but under conditions that we dictate, just as Fatah and the PA “rule” in their pockets in the West Bank, in accordance with our conditions. If the Palestinians need to be tamed at times, we will tame them with blood and with more blood. And peace be upon Israel.

++++++++++++++++++++++++

Israel has banned so many peaceful methods of resistance, and changed laws to make legal methods no longer legal, they seem to be insisting on only armed resistance, in which Israel can kill it's way out of the issue.

And yet, even the tiny amount of force that opposes it exposes Israeli lies. And Israeli fascist methods of repression is exposing Israel for what it truly is.

I stopped reading at "Amira Hass".

Her incitement in Ha'aretz was what triggered the brutal attack on Adele Biton.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Say what you will about Hamas' rocket fire, at least they managed to scratch the surface of Israel's faith in the normalcy of its domination of another people.
By Amira Hass | Jul. 23, 2014 | 3:30 AM | 4

There is method in madness, and the Israeli insanity, which refuses to grasp the extent of its revenge in Gaza, has very good reasons for being the way it is. The entire nation is the army, the army is the nation, and both are represented by a Jewish-democratic government and a loyal press, and the four of them work together to stave off the great betrayal: the Palestinians’ refusal to recognize the normalcy of the situation.
The Palestinians are disobedient. They refuse to adapt. This is after we thought it was working for us, with VIP treatment for a few of them and an opportunity for swollen bank accounts for some, and with enormous donations from the United States and Europe that nurture the pockets of imaginary Palestinian rule.

The insistent, steadfast demonstrations in West Bank villages have not even scratched the surface of the Israeli faith in the normalcy of our domination of another people. The boycott, divestment and sanctions movement did manage to confuse our ego a bit, but it is still not enough to make Israelis want to get the message. The Palestinian reconciliation government seemed to move us another step forward; it had the potential to embark on the path of rejecting the show of normalcy dictated by Israel, but too many forces within Fatah and Hamas did not support it.

Then it was the turn of Hamas’ rockets to disturb the occupier’s rest. Say what you will about it, but they succeeded in doing what the demonstrations, the boycott of Tapuzina orange drink and the concert cancellations did not.

Nation, army, government and press: You have eyes and ears, yet you will not see and you will not hear. You still hope that the Palestinian blood we have already shed and have yet to shed will win a long-term lull, which will bring us back to occupation as usual. You refuse to use your competence to stop in time, before an even bigger disaster takes place — just as you refused the time before, and the time before that.
And boy, are you competent when you want to be. The armed Hamas operatives who emerged from the tunnel shaft on Kibbutz Nir Am on Monday were dressed as Israeli soldiers. Haaretz’s Amos Harel writes that in the first moments, the field commanders were not sure whether they were soldiers or terrorists. “Finally, thanks to an aerial photograph taken by a drone, they were found to be Hamas operatives,” writes Harel. “They were carrying Kalashnikov rifles, which the Israeli army does not use.”

So the photographs taken by the drone can be very precise when its operators wish. It can discern whether there are children on the seashore or on the roof — children who, even for the legal acrobats in the Justice Ministry and the army, are not a justifiable target for our bombs. The drone can also discern that a rescue team has arrived to pull out wounded people, that families are fleeing their homes. All this can be shown in a close-up photograph taken by a drone, at high enough resolution that the operators of the bombs and the shells have no reason to press the “kill” button on their keyboards.

But for some reason, the eye of the drone that can tell the difference between various makes of rifles cannot tell that this figure over here is a child, and that is a mother or a grandmother. Instead, all are given a death sentence.

The Israeliness of the moment is like that drone. It chooses to see blearily. It clings closely to the good, comfortable life of a master nation, unwilling to allow its subjects to interfere with it. Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon translated that into political language when he said, “We will not agree to recognize the reconciliation government, but other arrangements such as controlling crossing points is something we can accept.

[Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Mahmoud] Abbas will control the crossing points, but he will not control the Gaza Strip itself.”

That is the routine we are cultivating. Gaza and the West Bank are cut off. Hamas controls the Gaza Strip, but under conditions that we dictate, just as Fatah and the PA “rule” in their pockets in the West Bank, in accordance with our conditions. If the Palestinians need to be tamed at times, we will tame them with blood and with more blood. And peace be upon Israel.

++++++++++++++++++++++++

Israel has banned so many peaceful methods of resistance, and changed laws to make legal methods no longer legal, they seem to be insisting on only armed resistance, in which Israel can kill it's way out of the issue.

And yet, even the tiny amount of force that opposes it exposes Israeli lies. And Israeli fascist methods of repression is exposing Israel for what it truly is.

I stopped reading at "Amira Hass".

Her incitement in Ha'aretz was what triggered the brutal attack on Adele Biton.

Who is Adele Biton?

 

[Daniyel]

Say what you will about Hamas' rocket fire, at least they managed to scratch the surface of Israel's faith in the normalcy of its domination of another people.
By Amira Hass | Jul. 23, 2014 | 3:30 AM | 4

There is method in madness, and the Israeli insanity, which refuses to grasp the extent of its revenge in Gaza, has very good reasons for being the way it is. The entire nation is the army, the army is the nation, and both are represented by a Jewish-democratic government and a loyal press, and the four of them work together to stave off the great betrayal: the Palestinians’ refusal to recognize the normalcy of the situation.
The Palestinians are disobedient. They refuse to adapt. This is after we thought it was working for us, with VIP treatment for a few of them and an opportunity for swollen bank accounts for some, and with enormous donations from the United States and Europe that nurture the pockets of imaginary Palestinian rule.

The insistent, steadfast demonstrations in West Bank villages have not even scratched the surface of the Israeli faith in the normalcy of our domination of another people. The boycott, divestment and sanctions movement did manage to confuse our ego a bit, but it is still not enough to make Israelis want to get the message. The Palestinian reconciliation government seemed to move us another step forward; it had the potential to embark on the path of rejecting the show of normalcy dictated by Israel, but too many forces within Fatah and Hamas did not support it.

Then it was the turn of Hamas’ rockets to disturb the occupier’s rest. Say what you will about it, but they succeeded in doing what the demonstrations, the boycott of Tapuzina orange drink and the concert cancellations did not.

Nation, army, government and press: You have eyes and ears, yet you will not see and you will not hear. You still hope that the Palestinian blood we have already shed and have yet to shed will win a long-term lull, which will bring us back to occupation as usual. You refuse to use your competence to stop in time, before an even bigger disaster takes place — just as you refused the time before, and the time before that.
And boy, are you competent when you want to be. The armed Hamas operatives who emerged from the tunnel shaft on Kibbutz Nir Am on Monday were dressed as Israeli soldiers. Haaretz’s Amos Harel writes that in the first moments, the field commanders were not sure whether they were soldiers or terrorists. “Finally, thanks to an aerial photograph taken by a drone, they were found to be Hamas operatives,” writes Harel. “They were carrying Kalashnikov rifles, which the Israeli army does not use.”

So the photographs taken by the drone can be very precise when its operators wish. It can discern whether there are children on the seashore or on the roof — children who, even for the legal acrobats in the Justice Ministry and the army, are not a justifiable target for our bombs. The drone can also discern that a rescue team has arrived to pull out wounded people, that families are fleeing their homes. All this can be shown in a close-up photograph taken by a drone, at high enough resolution that the operators of the bombs and the shells have no reason to press the “kill” button on their keyboards.

But for some reason, the eye of the drone that can tell the difference between various makes of rifles cannot tell that this figure over here is a child, and that is a mother or a grandmother. Instead, all are given a death sentence.

The Israeliness of the moment is like that drone. It chooses to see blearily. It clings closely to the good, comfortable life of a master nation, unwilling to allow its subjects to interfere with it. Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon translated that into political language when he said, “We will not agree to recognize the reconciliation government, but other arrangements such as controlling crossing points is something we can accept.

[Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Mahmoud] Abbas will control the crossing points, but he will not control the Gaza Strip itself.”

That is the routine we are cultivating. Gaza and the West Bank are cut off. Hamas controls the Gaza Strip, but under conditions that we dictate, just as Fatah and the PA “rule” in their pockets in the West Bank, in accordance with our conditions. If the Palestinians need to be tamed at times, we will tame them with blood and with more blood. And peace be upon Israel.

++++++++++++++++++++++++

Israel has banned so many peaceful methods of resistance, and changed laws to make legal methods no longer legal, they seem to be insisting on only armed resistance, in which Israel can kill it's way out of the issue.

And yet, even the tiny amount of force that opposes it exposes Israeli lies. And Israeli fascist methods of repression is exposing Israel for what it truly is.

I stopped reading at "Amira Hass".

Her incitement in Ha'aretz was what triggered the brutal attack on Adele Biton.

Who is Adele Biton?

Adele?s sad saga | JPost | Israel News
http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=8001
- "Collateral damage".

 

[montelatici]

I stopped reading at "Amira Hass".

Her incitement in Ha'aretz was what triggered the brutal attack on Adele Biton.

Who is Adele Biton?

Adele?s sad saga | JPost | Israel News
- "Collateral damage".

The IDF have killed a hundred Adeles. That's quite a bit sadder.

 

[Daniyel]

Who is Adele Biton?

Adele?s sad saga | JPost | Israel News
- "Collateral damage".

The IDF have killed a hundred Adeles. That's quite a bit sadder.

Any evidence to back it showing the missile/bullet/rock goes straight from IDF unit into hundred of Adeles? oh right- THE BLOCKADE.

 

[Lipush]

Who is Adele Biton?

Adele?s sad saga | JPost | Israel News
- "Collateral damage".

The IDF have killed a hundred Adeles. That's quite a bit sadder.

What is truly sad is the lack of tact and intelligence the jounalists of Ha'aretz have.

It is rquired to be totally insane or delusional to find any kind of logic in the words of that crazy woman, and her partner in drugs, Gideon Levi.

 

[Lipush]

I stopped reading at "Amira Hass".

Her incitement in Ha'aretz was what triggered the brutal attack on Adele Biton.

Who is Adele Biton?

Adele?s sad saga | JPost | Israel News
Israel Hayom | 2-year-old fights for her life after rock attack in Samaria
- "Collateral damage".

I thought I've had to "wow" effect packed and done, and then I saw a familiar name in the talkbacks of "The Adele's sad saga".

Guess who that is....

omg.

She's even responding to the Jpost. Gees.

 

[Daniyel]

Who is Adele Biton?

Adele?s sad saga | JPost | Israel News
Israel Hayom | 2-year-old fights for her life after rock attack in Samaria
- "Collateral damage".

I thought I've had to "wow" effect packed and done, and then I saw a familiar name in the talkbacks of "The Adele's sad saga".

Guess who that is....

omg.

She's even responding to the Jpost. Gees.

[MENTION=37610]SherriMunnerlyn[/MENTION]
42 Comments - 45 upvote ("Likes")
Probably by Sherri herself since she have zero followers..
Quoting "Adva Biton is an unfit mother who alone is responsible for all of her child's pain and hurt. And all she shows the world is her new hats at every opportunity she can find. What is a more disgusting excuse for a mother? I know of none." - HAG.

 

[Lipush]

Someone has a lot of free time in her hands, I guess.

 

[Billo_Really]

In the past two weeks we were busy providing evidence and footage.
Do you have any way to disprove it?

I do.

Israeli propaganda, dutifully echoed by the Western media, portrays the pummeling of Gaza as a “defensive” action by Tel Aviv in response to rocket attacks launched from Gazan territory against Israel. As of Tuesday night, however, these attacks had not claimed one Israeli life, nor left anyone seriously wounded. Ignored is the fact that the rocket attacks themselves were launched in response to earlier Israeli bombings, assassinations and wholesale arrests of Palestinian politicians and militants.

Israel provoked Hamas, just like they always have.

The rockets are not a threat, they are an excuse for Israel to keep committing crimes against humanity.

BTW, all your examples of "human shields", do not satisfy the international definition of using human shields.

But keep trying, maybe your luck will change?

 

[Moonglow]

The despicable cowards are the Zionist scum that murder children.

However it is common knowledge that Hamas are using human shields and firing from hospitals, schools, mosques, etc. .

It's propaganda that you have swallowed. Go justify murder elsewhere.

Like Hamas does and your propaganda...??

 

[Daniyel]

In the past two weeks we were busy providing evidence and footage.
Do you have any way to disprove it?

I do.

Israeli propaganda, dutifully echoed by the Western media, portrays the pummeling of Gaza as a “defensive” action by Tel Aviv in response to rocket attacks launched from Gazan territory against Israel. As of Tuesday night, however, these attacks had not claimed one Israeli life, nor left anyone seriously wounded. Ignored is the fact that the rocket attacks themselves were launched in response to earlier Israeli bombings, assassinations and wholesale arrests of Palestinian politicians and militants.

Israel provoked Hamas, just like they always have.

The rockets are not a threat, they are an excuse for Israel to keep committing crimes against humanity.

BTW, all your examples of "human shields", do not satisfy the international definition of using human shields.

But keep trying, maybe your luck will change?

Still waiting for you genius to reply on http://www.usmessageboard.com/israel-and-palestine/366594-the-gaza-situation.html
But since you brought up a very unrelated topic I want to bring up a topic you dodged earlier..
Following the last discussion when you also stated rockets are not a threat and it's just an excuse for Israel to commit crimes against humanity and all that bullshit..
How about funding the Iron Dome missiles yourself? this could provide great solution for the rockets.
I Bet you must know better than Hamas spokesmen stated "Hamas perfected the human shield" - so I'll try different approach -
Since Hamas declared as Terrorists they must be brought to justice, after all Gaza is an occupied territory of Israel which means Israel suppose to provide law enforcement in Gaza..and it is up to Israel's law system.. oh nevermind- there is only a legal blockade.
I don't think you are capable of answering the question on http://www.usmessageboard.com/israel-and-palestine/366594-the-gaza-situation.html so instead of talking out of context so I suggest you to try your luck with Google Search, its very simple to use and it would fit you great, you always know everything better than everyone, you try to force every fact or completely deny it up to your perspective, when you cannot provide a legitimate/related reply you just change/dodge/disappear/talk-bullshit-more-then-usual.
With Google you could always type whatever you want and you will see on the screen EVERYTHING you want to read about, and since you are a great example of humanity yourself I bet you can also HELP Google with answering a quick poll about the service.

[MENTION=2873]Billo_Really[/MENTION]
-Waiting for someone to attack me(as usual)-



Danny.

 

[Billo_Really]

Still waiting for you genius to reply on http://www.usmessageboard.com/israel-and-palestine/366594-the-gaza-situation.html

I already replied to that Einstein, in post #10 of that thread!

Let me ask you something, when you were a kid, did you have to wear hockey equipment, but you weren't on a team? Because you sound a little mental!

But since you brought up a very unrelated topic I want to bring up a topic you dodged earlier..
Following the last discussion when you also stated rockets are not a threat and it's just an excuse for Israel to commit crimes against humanity and all that bullshit..
How about funding the Iron Dome missiles yourself? this could provide great solution for the rockets.

No, the solution for the rockets is to end the occupation and blockade and let the Palestinian's have their freedom. You have absolutely no right to keep it from them.

I Bet you must know better than Hamas spokesmen stated "Hamas perfected the human shield" - so I'll try different approach -

I told you, he's not saying, what you claim he's saying.

Since Hamas declared as Terrorists they must be brought to justice, after all Gaza is an occupied territory of Israel which means Israel suppose to provide law enforcement in Gaza..and it is up to Israel's law system.. oh nevermind- there is only a legal blockade.

Like I said, you call anyone you disagree with a "terrorist".

And why do you keep insisting the blockade is legal when that bullshit Palmer Report has been debunked every which way you can imagine?

I don't think you are capable of answering the question on http://www.usmessageboard.com/israel-and-palestine/366594-the-gaza-situation.html so instead of talking out of context so I suggest you to try your luck with Google Search, its very simple to use and it would fit you great, you always know everything better than everyone, you try to force every fact or completely deny it up to your perspective, when you cannot provide a legitimate/related reply you just change/dodge/disappear/talk-bullshit-more-then-usual.

That was harsh. I have no idea what you're talking about here, but I certainly didn't deserve that.

I'm capable of answering any question you have and in context. I've never said anything about being better than anyone. And I don't force anything. I state my position and present my evidence. And just because you don't care for the response, doesn't make it illegitimate.

With Google you could always type whatever you want and you will see on the screen EVERYTHING you want to read about, and since you are a great example of humanity yourself I bet you can also HELP Google with answering a quick poll about the service.

[MENTION=2873]Billo_Really[/MENTION]
-Waiting for someone to attack me(as usual)-



Danny.

I'm not waiting on anyone.

 

[toastman]

In the past two weeks we were busy providing evidence and footage.
Do you have any way to disprove it?

I do.

Israeli propaganda, dutifully echoed by the Western media, portrays the pummeling of Gaza as a “defensive” action by Tel Aviv in response to rocket attacks launched from Gazan territory against Israel. As of Tuesday night, however, these attacks had not claimed one Israeli life, nor left anyone seriously wounded. Ignored is the fact that the rocket attacks themselves were launched in response to earlier Israeli bombings, assassinations and wholesale arrests of Palestinian politicians and militants.

Israel provoked Hamas, just like they always have.

The rockets are not a threat, they are an excuse for Israel to keep committing crimes against humanity.

BTW, all your examples of "human shields", do not satisfy the international definition of using human shields.

But keep trying, maybe your luck will change?

You don't understand do you?? Whenever Hamas fired rockets, Israel is going to retaliate.
The "we're launching rockets at Israel because of what they do in the West Bank' is bullshit. It's not a legitimate response. You don't launch rockets at the most militarized country in the entire region and then complain when they hit you back ten times harder.
There is NO EXCUSE TO START LAUNCHING ROCKETS .
What the fuck is Hamas trying to prove by launching them anyway???

 

[Indeependent]

In the past two weeks we were busy providing evidence and footage.
Do you have any way to disprove it?

I do.

Israeli propaganda, dutifully echoed by the Western media, portrays the pummeling of Gaza as a “defensive” action by Tel Aviv in response to rocket attacks launched from Gazan territory against Israel. As of Tuesday night, however, these attacks had not claimed one Israeli life, nor left anyone seriously wounded. Ignored is the fact that the rocket attacks themselves were launched in response to earlier Israeli bombings, assassinations and wholesale arrests of Palestinian politicians and militants.

Israel provoked Hamas, just like they always have.

The rockets are not a threat, they are an excuse for Israel to keep committing crimes against humanity.

BTW, all your examples of "human shields", do not satisfy the international definition of using human shields.

But keep trying, maybe your luck will change?

What the fuck is Hamas trying to prove by launching them anyway???

That Billo is stupid.

 

[Billo_Really]

You don't understand do you?? Whenever Hamas fired rockets, Israel is going to retaliate.

Boy are you fucked in the head! The rockets ARE the retaliation!

If the Israeli's didn't want rockets, end the fuckin' occupation and stop launching missile strikes from drones every week.

The "we're launching rockets at Israel because of what they do in the West Bank' is bullshit.

Why is it bullshit? You think you can arrest 500 of my people and I won't do anything about it? What's bullshit, is you thinking you can constantly treat people like garbage and they won't care.

It's not a legitimate response.

But it IS a response, not the initial action.

You don't launch rockets at the most militarized country in the entire region and then complain when they hit you back ten times harder.

You can when you were obviously set up and they provoked your response.

There is NO EXCUSE TO START LAUNCHING ROCKETS .

Except when defending yourselves from the vicious assholes next door.

What the fuck is Hamas trying to prove by launching them anyway???

That you can't get your way all the time. That you ain't the big bad ass you think you are! All that army and you can't stop a few home made rockets?