Yeah, I don't understand the mindset of mindless insults and personal jabs. Do they think that will earn them some brownie points and a pat on the back? When someone stoops that low in a discussion, they immediately lose any and all credibility and are a mere troll - so on the ignore list they go. If they aren't able to have an honest discussion, they will simply be hidden from view and forgotten about. Such insults don't bother me - its mere white noise to me.
They beg and scream for evidence of the IDF's crimes to be presented, and then say its all fake, that there isn't any crimes, etc. The IDF is a terrorist organization. I hear regular situations of the IDF bombing and killing innocent people waiting in line for food, the list goes on and on. Netanyahu and his followers are like a modern Hitler and his followers, they use the same arguments, justifications and the like. They proclaim themselves as victims when performing some of the worst atrocities there are.
Any Americans serving in the IDF should immediately have their citizenship stripped, and to be deported to Israel. One cannot serve two masters.
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It looks like we share many of the same sentiments and are far from alone in our disgust over the way that the Gaza genocide is being both executed, excused and distorted.
I am not at all surprised but encouraged at the growing number of ethical and courageous Jews who are also not only repulsed by the murderous machination of the Netanyahu government and Israel's rabid right wing.
Their myopic madness is clearly not shared by all Jews or all Israelis. (1)
Among the many reasons I am both alarmed and strongly opposed to the US Government's criminal complicity in Netanyahu's unbridled aggression and genocidal expansionism is the inevitable Blowback endangering all Jews around the world as well as America's G.I.s and US targets abroad.
Nothing could be worse for America's reputation and best interests as well as Israel's genuine long term security than their obvious willingness to allow the most widely known "surprise" attack of 7 October 2023 to occur as an opportunity to destroy then seize Gaza while exterminating and / or expelling Palestine's native residents.
It won't be the first time that right wing Zionists have been willing to sacrifice the lives of other Jews for an Arab free "Greater Israel"
“If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel.”
Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth’s Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).
I’ve been engaged in a long-term e-mail debate with anti-Zionists, associated with David McReynolds, a former leader of the War Resisters’ League and a tiny remnant that still calls itself the Socialist Party, USA. Seth Farber, one of the most vociferous (although not quite the nastiest) of my...
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They beg and scream for evidence of the IDF's crimes to be presented, and then say its all fake, that there isn't any crimes, etc.
Amen!
Next to puerile and moronic name calling and obsessively howling "anti Semite", stubborn and chronic denial of irrefutable facts are among the most common ploys among those attempting to defend the indefensible.
Because I worked as a Psychiatric Case Worker on a large, inner-city, Emergency Psychiatric Unit, I feel more sympathy than vexation for our gaggle of snarky, evasive and insulting genocidal shills.
After all, imagine the loneliness of angry and hate filled individuals left with only a life of anonymously and compulsively insulting strangers hour after hour.
I certainly don't expect everyone to agree with my opinions and enjoy learning other views. It's entirely possible to hold other opinions and still discuss issues with civility.
There's always more to be learned even after spending time in the Middle East and studying its history for over 60 years
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One cannot serve two masters.
Again, I agree completely.
I get weary of the transparent falsehood that Israel and the US share the same interests.
Israel is America's de facto welfare state and enabling it's current atrocities, criminal expansionism and aspirations for regional hegemony is clearly not in America's best interest.
After all:
“Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.
– John Sheehan, Society of Jesus. (Jesuit priest)
Thanks, again
(1). "Jewish Donors Raise Unprecedented Funds for Humanitarian Aid to People in Gaza"
The New Israel Fund (NIF) has raised three quarters of a million dollars globally over the last month from more than 2,500 grassroots donors to help feed innocent people living in Gaza.
www.nif.org
CONTINUED "The New Israel Fund (NIF) has raised three quarters of a million dollars globally over the last month from more than 2,500 grassroots donors to help feed innocent people living in Gaza. Starting just before the holiday of Passover, thousands of donors from the United States, Israel, Canada, the U.K. and Germany gave in unprecedented numbers to NIF’s campaign.
This is the first time that NIF has raised, and distributed, this level of funding for programs outside of Israel." CONTINUED