Israelis are not Semites

[GLASNOST]

It surprises me that they still support Israel. I know it shouldn’t, but how in the world can any thinking person support mass murder of a defenseless occupied people? I thought we as a civilization had progressed beyond such evil. So unfortunately for me, this horrendous event hits me harder than for someone not naive in believing we’ve advanced beyond evil.

The MIC is a thing, not a person.

 

[JanetTheGreat]

Have you ever been there? I have, plenty of times, so I can say that your assessment is wrong.

Your lack of understanding is reasonable as you are a new poster who clearly has no background in the area. It might be useful if you worked on educating yourself instead of wallowing in your ignorance and finding solace in the words of others who are equally uneducated.

You immediately go for the "New Poster" as some sort of personal jab, claiming I have "no background", etc. Thank you for invalidating everything else you've said. Your comments have shown a high level of ignorance about this topic, due to your unwillingness to educate yourself and research what Israel has actually done.

 

[rosends]

You immediately go for the "New Poster" as some sort of personal jab,

I'm pointing it out as a fact regarding your account. Am I wrong?

claiming I have "no background",

You do -- both on this site (as a new poster -- unless I'm wrong and you have just changed handles -- is that the case?) and in reality as you clearly know little about Israel and the mid easy situation and history.

etc. Thank you for invalidating everything else you've said. Your comments have shown a high level of ignorance about this topic, due to your unwillingness to educate yourself and research what Israel has actually done.

And I note that you haven't tried to disprove anything I said -- you just click on "fake news" as if that invalidates actual history and facts.

 

[GLASNOST]

You immediately go for the "New Poster" as some sort of personal jab, claiming I have "no background", etc.

You noticed.

 

[Shusha]

You’re much too kind. I would describe such a person as delusional and frighteningly ignorant. Maybe psychopathic. I mean who in their right mind supports a genocide?

Sigh. You can keep saying I support a genocide, but it doesn't get any more true with each repetition. I do not support genocide, and as soon as I see one, I'll be the first to condemn it.

Also, its quite rich of you to label me "frighteningly ignorant" on a thread which claims that Hebrew-speaking people are not part of the group of people who speak Semitic languages (of which, Hebrew is one).

 

[Shusha]

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This has nothing to do with "greater Israel". This is a discussion about Iran's proxies (spreading terror and violence and calling for the destruction of Israel and the removal or death of Jews) vs the Abraham Accords (peaceful working relationships for mutual prosperity).

 

[Shusha]

Definitely. I won't really waste my time arguing with people who defend the Israeli regime's actions. All the crimes and evidence is there for them to see, but if they aren't willing to see, then that is on them for being brainwashed.

But we haven't been discussing Israel's actions. You haven't brought up one governmental policy or action or "war crime". Instead, you've made comments, or supported comments, which collectively accuse, broadly, the Jewish people of atrocities. You've claimed to understand what the collective of the Jewish people "want".

If you want to discuss "crimes" and evidence, present something.

 

[Shusha]

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Do you make excuses like
“It’s a complicated situation” or
“Israel has a right to defend itself” or
“The Palestinians are not really a people”?
Do you follow the MAGA crowd, supporting its genocidal cult leader Donald Trump? Are you
one of the sheeple, as he aids and abets the bombing,
slaughter, starvation, and mass murder of two-and-
a-half million people?
Or does the Israeli/US/UK-engineered genocide
leave you repulsed and nauseous? If so,
then why is your voice so timid and cautious?
Why aren’t you shouting your anger and protest
in every synagogue service, every public forum,
every newspaper, every college campus, every
B’nai B’rith gathering across the land?
Do you understand that Trump is a totally-owned
Zionist tool who does Netanyahu’s bidding, as was
the senile pervert Joseph Biden and the cackling hideous
Kamala Harris? Trump’s buddy Jeffrey Epstein, a Mossad
agent who ran a sexual blackmail racket, probably has
a load of incriminating tapes featuring The Donald with
underage girls. Trump’s first priority is not Make America
Great Again, it’s Make Israel Great Again.
Do you realize that the U.S. Congress is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Zionist State of Israel, through bribes and blackmail? And millions of Trump’s Christian Zionist supporters believe that Palestine must be wholly Christian to pave the way for The Rapture. These forces exert a stranglehold on the American political system and the un-free press.

The Israeli people by and large support the genocide, according to the latest polls. “It’s either us or them. We stole the land from them, and we’re not about to give it back. So it’s okay if Israeli soldiers shoot babies in the head and murder pregnant Palestinian mothers. It’s okay when we bomb hospitals, schools, kill starving people lined up for food supplies, destroy over 80% of Gaza’s infrastructure, and turn the Strip into a wasteland of rubble.”

Wow. The antisemitic tropes are strong in this one. Let's see.

• blood libels
• Jews control the world/media/global economy/foreign governments
• association with collective sexual deviance
• association with a cult

And then a call to invade Jewish-specific spaces with "angry protest".

Shall they attack not only Jewish synagogues, but Jewish community centers, Jewish homes, Jewish shops, Jewish restaurants?

Shall they bring guns like they did in Montreal, and in DC, and in Munich? Firebombs like they did in Melbourne, and Boulder, and Vancouver, and Harrisburg, and Berlin, and Warsaw, and Rouen, and Sydney?

The conflation of the acts of the Israeli government with "regular" Jews isn't just a problem for discussions on a message board. This has real-life (real-death) consequences for the Jewish people. And you are calling for it.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes. It is yet another great contradiction of this horrendous event. Christians who unconditionally support Israel. How the f**k can a Christian believe Jesus instructs them to support mass murder? It goes against every tenant of Jesus’s teachings.

Yes Americans are the most propagandized people on the planet. You’d think after all the exposed lies by our government and media since at least JFK’s assassination, all Americans would distrust anything told them by these criminal enterprises.

Exactly!

Don't believe the lies of government, believe the lies of Hamas.

DURR

 

[sparky]

This has nothing to do with "greater Israel". This is a discussion about Iran's proxies (spreading terror and violence and calling for the destruction of Israel and the removal or death of Jews) vs the Abraham Accords (peaceful working relationships for mutual prosperity).

and you don't realize there's a reason for that Shusha?

~S~

 

[Shusha]

and you don't realize there's a reason for that Shusha?

~S~

Oh do please tell me what would justify the destruction of a state, and the extermination, and/or ethnic cleansing of an entire ethnic group? I’m all ears.

 

[GLASNOST]

This has nothing to do with "greater Israel". This is a discussion about Iran's proxies (spreading terror and violence and calling for the destruction of Israel and the removal or death of Jews) vs the Abraham Accords (peaceful working relationships for mutual prosperity).

and you don't realize there's a reason for that Shusha?

~S~

Slay the dragon, I say. If it's Iran who leads the charge then why not lend a hand? And as far as terror goes, if that's the modus operandi of the demon then it will have to be the method of its destruction.

 

[sparky]

Oh do please tell me what would justify the destruction of a state, and the extermination, and/or ethnic cleansing of an entire ethnic group? I’m all ears.

Zionism Shusha

which is akin to labeling every American a white supremacist

~S~

 

[gipper]

Oh do please tell me what would justify the destruction of a state, and the extermination, and/or ethnic cleansing of an entire ethnic group? I’m all ears.

This will make you so proud. Go to temple today and pray for more mass murder of the subhumans, while proclaiming NEVER AGAIN!

 

[Grau]

Ok Bunky.

Semitic 1 of 2 adjective​

Se·mit·ic sə-ˈmi-tik


1 : of, relating to, or constituting a subfamily of the Afro-Asiatic language family that includes Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic, and Amharic

2 : of, relating to, or characteristic of the Semites

3 : Jewish

Please remember that Judaism is a religion, not an ethnic group.

The earlier Palestinian Jews who got along well with the Palestinian Arabs(1) are / were probably Semitic but since they comprised only about 8% of Palestine's pre Zionist population (1900), most Israelis are no more related to the Ancient Hebrew warriors than they are to the Eskimos.

Thanks,



(1). “Before Zionism: The shared life of Jews and Palestinians”

Before Zionism: The shared life of Jews and Palestinians - +972 Magazine

Before the advent of Zionism and Arab nationalism, Jews and Palestinians lived in peace in the holy land. Menachem Klein’s new book maps out an oft-forgotten history of Israel/Palestine, and offers some guidance on how we may go back to that time. By Noam Rotem Menachem Klein’s book, Lives in...

www.972mag.com

EXCERPT “He quotes the memoirs of Ya’akov Elazar from Jerusalem, who remembers how “the Muslim women cooperated respectfully with the customs of the Jewish religion…

the Muslim neighbors allowed the Jewish women to pump water necessary before the Sabbath.” Klein also describes how some Muslims even joined their Jewish neighbors in reciting religious prayers.

He describes the cheder (a traditional elementary school where the basics of Judaism and the Hebrew language were taught) run by Hacham Gershon in the neighborhood of Sheikh Jarrah, where Arab parents brought their children so that they would learn how to behave properly.

Klein also writes that sexual relations and marriages between Jews and Arabs were not unheard of, even if they were not considered legitimate.”

 

[gipper]

Oh do please tell me what would justify the destruction of a state, and the extermination, and/or ethnic cleansing of an entire ethnic group? I’m all ears.

May God have mercy on your soul.

 

[Shusha]

Zionism Shusha

which is akin to labeling every American a white supremacist

~S~

I don't understand what you mean here. I think this is what you mean:

"The idea that the Jewish people have the same right to self-determination and sovereignty that others also have is the cause of Arabs committing terror and atrocities."

Please clarify if I misunderstand.

 

[Shusha]

Please remember that Judaism is a religion, not an ethnic group.

Absolutely incorrect. The Jewish people are an ethnic group WITH a distinct religion.

Here is an excellent explanation of the term.

 

[Shusha]

May God have mercy on your soul.

There is no point in entering conversation with you since, according to you, you don't even read my posts. Let me just say that even the (ahem!) extremely uncharitable +972 magazine's article doesn't say what you think it says.

 

[gipper]

There is no point in entering conversation with you since, according to you, you don't even read my posts. Let me just say that even the (ahem!) extremely uncharitable +972 magazine's article doesn't say what you think it says.

Would you read Mein Kampf?