Israeli Settlers: Are They ‘Civilians’ or Legitimate Military Targets?

[ForeverYoung436]

The presence of people of the "wrong" culture, ethnicity or faith on the "wrong" side of some imaginary line is not justification to murder innocent people.

The fact that we have spend 20 pages even contemplating it is disgusting. The fact that we have members openly calling for and supporting this is disgusting.

What do you DO with people who think it is morally and legally permissible to kill babies? How do you confront that sort of evil?

In Tinmore's case, it's not even Jews "who are the wrong side of an imaginary line." (I assume you're talking about the Green Line, which is a good starting point for negotiations, at least.) In his case, it's all Jews who are living in Eretz Yisroel, from the river to the sea. According to him, someone could burst into my cousin's house in Tel-Aviv, slit his baby's throat, and that would be fine with the Geneva Conventions.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The presence of people of the "wrong" culture, ethnicity or faith on the "wrong" side of some imaginary line is not justification to murder innocent people.

The fact that we have spend 20 pages even contemplating it is disgusting. The fact that we have members openly calling for and supporting this is disgusting.

What do you DO with people who think it is morally and legally permissible to kill babies? How do you confront that sort of evil?

In Tinmore's case, it's not even Jews "who are the wrong side of an imaginary line." (I assume you're talking about the Green Line, which is a good starting point for negotiations, at least.) In his case, it's all Jews who are living in Eretz Yisroel, from the river to the sea. According to him, someone could burst into my cousin's house in Tel-Aviv, slit his baby's throat, and that would be fine with the Geneva Conventions.

I've never said that.

 

[Lipush]

A Legitimate Target?!

 

[Lipush]

A Legitimate Target?!

 

[teddyearp]

Louie wanted to have a 'serious' discussion. Mainly to show how seriously he hates the Israelis and Jews.

 

[Lipush]

Adele Biton. Jonathan Palmer. The Fogel Children. The Shabo children. Shalhevet Pass.

ALL of them "legitimate targets", I assume?

 

[montelatici]

I assume the hundreds and thousands of Palestinian children killed by Jews were legitinate targets, right Lipush.

 

[Shusha]

In Tinmore's case, it's not even Jews "who are the wrong side of an imaginary line." (I assume you're talking about the Green Line, which is a good starting point for negotiations, at least.) In his case, it's all Jews who are living in Eretz Yisroel, from the river to the sea. According to him, someone could burst into my cousin's house in Tel-Aviv, slit his baby's throat, and that would be fine with the Geneva Conventions.

The Green Line is the obvious one in this context, but I was talking about any sort of imaginary line, really. The presence of people in a place is not reason enough to kill them.

 

[Shusha]

I assume the hundreds and thousands of Palestinian children killed by Jews were legitinate targets, right Lipush.

Of course they are not legitimate targets.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I assume the hundreds and thousands of Palestinian children killed by Jews were legitinate targets, right Lipush.

Of course they are not legitimate targets.

I don't hear any outrage from the Israel side.

 

[Shusha]

I assume the hundreds and thousands of Palestinian children killed by Jews were legitinate targets, right Lipush.

Of course they are not legitimate targets.

I don't hear any outrage from the Israel side.

No one on the Israeli side is suggesting that children are legitimate targets. That's all on Team P.

 

[montelatici]

I assume the hundreds and thousands of Palestinian children killed by Jews were legitinate targets, right Lipush.

Of course they are not legitimate targets.

I don't hear any outrage from the Israel side.

No one on the Israeli side is suggesting that children are legitimate targets. That's all on Team P.

But the Israeli side is the side that is killing thousands of civilians. It's called talking out of the side of your mouth.

 

[Shusha]

But the Israeli side is the side that is killing thousands of civilians. It's called talking out of the side of your mouth.

You don't get it, do you? Team Palestine is arguing that it is morally and legally permissible to kill civilians. IF its morally and legally permissible to kill civilians -- you CAN'T be upset when its done to Palestinian children. Its PERMISSIBLE!

 

[P F Tinmore]

I assume the hundreds and thousands of Palestinian children killed by Jews were legitinate targets, right Lipush.

Of course they are not legitimate targets.

I don't hear any outrage from the Israel side.

No one on the Israeli side is suggesting that children are legitimate targets. That's all on Team P.

But when Palestinian children are killed there is no outrage on the Israeli side. The fact is that the Israeli side gives 1001 excuses for those deaths.

 

[P F Tinmore]

But the Israeli side is the side that is killing thousands of civilians. It's called talking out of the side of your mouth.

You don't get it, do you? Team Palestine is arguing that it is morally and legally permissible to kill civilians. IF its morally and legally permissible to kill civilians -- you CAN'T be upset when its done to Palestinian children. Its PERMISSIBLE!

There is a difference.

Palestinians children are killed in Palestine.

Israeli children are killed in Palestine.

There is a solution here.

 

[Shusha]

But the Israeli side is the side that is killing thousands of civilians. It's called talking out of the side of your mouth.

You don't get it, do you? Team Palestine is arguing that it is morally and legally permissible to kill civilians. IF its morally and legally permissible to kill civilians -- you CAN'T be upset when its done to Palestinian children. Its PERMISSIBLE!

There is a difference.

Palestinians children are killed in Palestine.

Israeli children are killed in Palestine.

There is a solution here.

So, the moral and legal permissibility of killing people (you, legitimately, legally and morally correctly) depends on imaginary constructs such as things called "Palestine".

 

[Shusha]

But when Palestinian children are killed there is no outrage on the Israeli side.

Why would there be outrage? Its permissible, remember?

 

[P F Tinmore]

The presence of people of the "wrong" culture, ethnicity or faith on the "wrong" side of some imaginary line is not justification to murder innocent people.

The fact that we have spend 20 pages even contemplating it is disgusting. The fact that we have members openly calling for and supporting this is disgusting.

What do you DO with people who think it is morally and legally permissible to kill babies? How do you confront that sort of evil?

What do you DO with people who think it is morally and legally permissible to kill babies? How do you confront that sort of evil?

I don't recall anyone saying that.

And I don't recall anyone on this thread saying clearly that it was not morally or legally permissible to kill civilians. Except me. Wanna join me?

I merely quoted the Geneva Convention. The parents are responsible for their children. Those who live in Israel's war zone are responsible for their families safety.

 

[Indeependent]

The presence of people of the "wrong" culture, ethnicity or faith on the "wrong" side of some imaginary line is not justification to murder innocent people.

The fact that we have spend 20 pages even contemplating it is disgusting. The fact that we have members openly calling for and supporting this is disgusting.

What do you DO with people who think it is morally and legally permissible to kill babies? How do you confront that sort of evil?

What do you DO with people who think it is morally and legally permissible to kill babies? How do you confront that sort of evil?

I don't recall anyone saying that.

And I don't recall anyone on this thread saying clearly that it was not morally or legally permissible to kill civilians. Except me. Wanna join me?

I merely quoted the Geneva Convention. The parents are responsible for their children. Those who live in Israel's war zone are responsible for their families safety.

And that's why the war zone is shrinking more and more every year...for the West Bank Jordanians.

 

[Challenger]

What do you DO with people who think it is morally and legally permissible to kill babies? How do you confront that sort of evil?

Yes, what do you DO with people who routinely kill babies? How do you confront that sort of evil?

http://israelpalestinetimeline.org/babies/

Every one of these deaths is a crime against humanity. In the 20th century, it was Nazism and Communism, in the 21st it's Zionism and Zionist Isreal that is the evil the civilised world has to confront and eradicate. Once that's done, there will be a chance for Jewish people, Muslims and peoples of all other religions and none, to live in peace together, in Palestine or anywhere else in this world they chose to live.