Israel’s bullying in eastern Med is over

It looks like actual documents trump your Israeli propagandist/historian.

It looks like you have zero reputational points even after 2 years. :lol:

Bernard Lewis is the foremost historian of the Middle East.

Association for the Study of the Middle East and Africa
For more than 60 years, Bernard Lewis, the doyen of Middle East historians, has interpreted the world of Islam to the West. Born and raised in London, he studied at the University of London's School of Oriental and African Studies, where he earned a Ph.D. in the History of Islam. After service during World War II, he taught at the University of London until 1974 and at Princeton University until 1986. He is currently Princeton's Cleveland E. Dodge Professor Emeritus of Near Eastern Studies.
Professor Lewis has drawn on primary sources in Middle Eastern and other languages to produce more than two dozen books, including The Arabs in History and the post-9/11 international best-sellers What Went Wrong? and Crisis in Islam. Professor Lewis has performed the invaluable service of placing current events in the context of history.

He was the first Western scholar permitted access to the archives of the Ottoman Empire in Istanbul. His work is distinguished by its attention to the lives of ordinary people, as well as kings and rulers. Professor Lewis was among the first to study issues of race, slavery, class and the status of women in Middle Eastern history. In addition to his historical studies, he has published translations of classical Arabic, Turkish, Persian and Hebrew poetry.

Recognizing the pressing need for reform and improvement in the Middle Eastern as well as African studies, Professor Lewis assembled a distinguished group of scholars and statesmen in 2007 to creat ASMEA. He has served as its chairman and guiding force since its inception.

Professor Bernard Lewis, Chairman

I win, as usual. :clap2:

Cool, to bad he is wrong.

You get a lollypop if you locate "Palestine" on this UN map, stupid little boy.
http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map/profile/israel.pdf
 
It looks like you have zero reputational points even after 2 years. :lol:

Bernard Lewis is the foremost historian of the Middle East.

Association for the Study of the Middle East and Africa


I win, as usual. :clap2:

Cool, to bad he is wrong.

Too bad you have zero reputational points even after 2 years of incessant drivel :lol:

Maybe, praying will work :eusa_pray:

At least I am not wrong like your propagandist "historian."
 
Israeli-Syrian General Armistice Agreement, July 20, 1949
Cool, so, who was that sheikh, sultan, imam, emir, president, prime-minister, who signed it?
The Armistice Demarcation Line is specifically not to be a border.
Oh, Syria doesn't have a border!

Where the existing truce lines run along the international boundary between Syria and Palestine, the Armistice Demarcation Line shall follow the boundary line

Sure it does. It borders Palestine.
 
Israeli-Syrian General Armistice Agreement, July 20, 1949
Cool, so, who was that sheikh, sultan, imam, emir, president, prime-minister, who signed it?Oh, Syria doesn't have a border!

Where the existing truce lines run along the international boundary between Syria and Palestine, the Armistice Demarcation Line shall follow the boundary line

Sure it does. It borders Palestine.

This Palestine?---Middle East Historian Bernard Lewis
The Palestine entity, formally established and defined by Britain, was formally abolished in 1948 with the termination of the British Mandate and Israeli statehood
:lol:

These Palestinians?---- Guy Milliere, Eminent Professor of History and Political Science, Sorbonne, Paris
No one had heard of a Palestinian people before the mid-1960s. They did not exist. Israel under the British Mandate until Israel' s Independence in 1948 was called Palestine. All Jews who were born there until i948 had the word « Palestine » stamped on their passports. The current Palestinians are those Arabs who, for a variety of reasons, decided to leave the land during the 1947 War of Independence, when five countries – Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq – attacked the 600,000 people in the fledgling state of Israel the day after its birth, hoping to kill it in the crib.
The War Against Israel Goes On- by Guy Millière | DRZZ.fr
:lol:
 
Cool, to bad he is wrong.

Too bad you have zero reputational points even after 2 years of incessant drivel :lol:

Maybe, praying will work :eusa_pray:

At least I am not wrong like your propagandist "historian."

American Library Association...
For more than four decades, Bernard Lewis has been one of the most respected scholars and prolific writers on the history and politics of the Middle East. In this compilation of more than 50 journal articles and essays, he displays the full range of his eloquence, knowledge, and insight regarding this pivotal and volatile region."
Oxford University Press: Faith and Power:

Bernard Lewis...
The Palestine entity, formally established and defined by Britain, was formally abolished in 1948 with the termination of the British Mandate and Israeli statehood.

I win, as usual :clap2:
 
Cool, so, who was that sheikh, sultan, imam, emir, president, prime-minister, who signed it?Oh, Syria doesn't have a border!



Sure it does. It borders Palestine.

This Palestine?---Middle East Historian Bernard Lewis
The Palestine entity, formally established and defined by Britain, was formally abolished in 1948 with the termination of the British Mandate and Israeli statehood
:lol:

These Palestinians?---- Guy Milliere, Eminent Professor of History and Political Science, Sorbonne, Paris
No one had heard of a Palestinian people before the mid-1960s. They did not exist. Israel under the British Mandate until Israel' s Independence in 1948 was called Palestine. All Jews who were born there until i948 had the word « Palestine » stamped on their passports. The current Palestinians are those Arabs who, for a variety of reasons, decided to leave the land during the 1947 War of Independence, when five countries – Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq – attacked the 600,000 people in the fledgling state of Israel the day after its birth, hoping to kill it in the crib.
The War Against Israel Goes On- by Guy Millière | DRZZ.fr
:lol:

I am posting actual historical documents and you are posting the say so of one man.

Do you have any documents to back up his assertion?

I didn't think so.
 
Sure it does. It borders Palestine.

This Palestine?---Middle East Historian Bernard Lewis :lol:

These Palestinians?---- Guy Milliere, Eminent Professor of History and Political Science, Sorbonne, Paris
No one had heard of a Palestinian people before the mid-1960s. They did not exist. Israel under the British Mandate until Israel' s Independence in 1948 was called Palestine. All Jews who were born there until i948 had the word « Palestine » stamped on their passports. The current Palestinians are those Arabs who, for a variety of reasons, decided to leave the land during the 1947 War of Independence, when five countries – Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq – attacked the 600,000 people in the fledgling state of Israel the day after its birth, hoping to kill it in the crib.
The War Against Israel Goes On- by Guy Millière | DRZZ.fr
:lol:

I am posting actual historical documents and you are posting the say so of one man.

Do you have any documents to back up his assertion?

I didn't think so.

You posted Western documents that called Israel "Palestine" after World War I. The land has been Israel for 3000 years.
 
Sure it does. It borders Palestine.

This Palestine?---Middle East Historian Bernard Lewis :lol:

These Palestinians?---- Guy Milliere, Eminent Professor of History and Political Science, Sorbonne, Paris
No one had heard of a Palestinian people before the mid-1960s. They did not exist. Israel under the British Mandate until Israel' s Independence in 1948 was called Palestine. All Jews who were born there until i948 had the word « Palestine » stamped on their passports. The current Palestinians are those Arabs who, for a variety of reasons, decided to leave the land during the 1947 War of Independence, when five countries – Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq – attacked the 600,000 people in the fledgling state of Israel the day after its birth, hoping to kill it in the crib.
The War Against Israel Goes On- by Guy Millière | DRZZ.fr
:lol:

I am posting actual historical documents and you are posting the say so of one man.

Do you have any documents to back up his assertion?

I didn't think so.

The Bible references Israel 2000 times. Palestine, not once.
 
Israeli-Syrian General Armistice Agreement, July 20, 1949
Cool, so, who was that sheikh, sultan, imam, emir, president, prime-minister, who signed it?Oh, Syria doesn't have a border!
Where the existing truce lines run along the international boundary between Syria and Palestine, the Armistice Demarcation Line shall follow the boundary line. Sure it does. It borders Palestine.
Cool, so, who was that sheikh, sultan, imam, emir, president, prime-minister of that "palestine"? Eh?
 
This Palestine?---Middle East Historian Bernard Lewis :lol:

These Palestinians?---- Guy Milliere, Eminent Professor of History and Political Science, Sorbonne, Paris

:lol:

I am posting actual historical documents and you are posting the say so of one man.

Do you have any documents to back up his assertion?

I didn't think so.

The Bible references Israel 2000 times. Palestine, not once.

So the people who call themselves Palestinians now are really Israelis?
 
I find your answer to the comment strange to say the least..BECAUSE IT WAS THE US WHO ARMED AND SUPPORTED BOTH HAMMAS AND THE TALIBAN.....if HYPOCRICY OF YOURSELF WAS YOUR POINT,YOU DID A GREAT JOB:cuckoo:theliq:cool:
I have a real problem when people began to speak of the "poor, down trodden Palestinians." And the reason is because if you were so poor and down troddeen, you might want to do something about your leaders stealing billions of dollars given to you as aid and putting it into their own personal Swiss bank accounts. When you put up with crap that Arafat did for years and years, then you don't seem so poor and down trodden to me.

Secondly, I don't see any truly poor and down trodden people strapping bombs to children or women and sending them into other countries to blow up civilians on a bus. Call me old fashioned, but when you blow up innocent civilians, your "poor and down trodden" label gets revoked.

Thirdly, Hamas and Hezbollah are the Palestinian versions of the Boy Scouts I guess? Iran bankrolls them and tells them what they should do. Talk about international adverturism. Iran uses the Palestinians and the Palestinians let themselves be used by the Iranians. Get some cajones people and throw the Iranians out! Until you do, "poor and down trodden" just doesn't cut it.

Israel is one of the only representative democracies in the world. The ONLY one in the middle east that is NOT just out of a war with the US. I imagine in 10 years, it will be the ONLY one again. The Palestinians get real good lip service from their Muslim brothers in the middle east, but not much else.

I felt more sorry for JR Ewing than the Palestinians.

Arafat was set up by the "west" to be the oligarchy in Palestine. Why do you think Israel allowed him back from exile?

Israel is not another country. The Palestinians never crossed a border for an attack. Israeli settlers are not protected persons (civilians) according to the 4th Geneva Convention.

What has Iran told Hamas or Hezbollah to do?

Israeli Settlers are NOT protected persons? Really? And since when are women and children NOT protected by normal civilized behavior? Oh yeah, when Palestinians blow them up into small little chunks. And you think this "4th Geneva Convention" is a real answer to such barbaric behavior?

Are you for real? I mean do you really believe the crap that you have written here? You know, when you blow up a small child ON PURPOSE, God has a special place for you. I don't care if you're Muslim, Jewish, or Christian, you are going to spend eternity bending over a table while Hitler, Stalin, and Mao shove lit sticks of dynamite up your keister.

Iran, Hezbollah, and Hamas have been on the State Department's terror list since their inception as Islamic Holy Warriors. Bend over Mohammed!
 
Israeli Settlers are NOT protected persons? Really? And since when are women and children NOT protected by normal civilized behavior?



ANSWER-----are you suggesting that shariah adherent
societies do not advocate normal civilized behavior?
 
I am posting actual historical documents and you are posting the say so of one man.

Do you have any documents to back up his assertion?

I didn't think so.

The Bible references Israel 2000 times. Palestine, not once.

So the people who call themselves Palestinians now are really Israelis?



no the people who started calling themselves palestinians sometime
in the 1960s are IMPOSTERS they assumed that moniker
"PALESTINIAN" illegally in since the intent in doing so is FRAUD.
People can change their names legally ONLY IF BY SO DOING THEY
HAVE NO INTENTION OF COMITTING FRAUD
 
Old USAF ----you have missed a lot here-----we have posters here who have LEGALIZED sneaking into a house at nite and slitting the throats of infants In fact it is a legal activity in islamic law assuming the victims are non dhimmis living amongst muslims in islamic lands ie not SIGNED UP TO ENSLAVEMENT TO ISLAMIC LAW if they are signed up------it is still not a capital crime -----sometimes ----the whole penalty can be a small amount of "blood money"----in case of violation of islamic laws on the parts of the agrieved parties-----it becomes entirely legal
 
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SEPT, 2011
The eastern Mediterranean will no longer be a place where Israeli naval forces can freely exercise their “bullying” practices against civilian vessels, a Turkish official said Friday.

The official said this would be the outcome of Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu’s statement earlier in the day that “Turkey would take every precaution it deems necessary for the safety of maritime navigation in the eastern Mediterranean.”

Using Turkish naval vessels to escort ships carrying aid to Palestine and observing free navigation in the zone between the island of Cyprus and Israel are among the plans set to be implemented, sources said, adding that Turkish war ships would be more frequently seen in the area.
‘Israel’s bullying in eastern Med is over’ - Hurriyet Daily News

It's been just over a year since ekrem posted this hot "news."
So how many ships carrying aid to "Palestine" has the Turkish Navy escorted?
How many Turkish warships are in the Eastern Med today? :D
 
8216israel8217sbullying.jpg


The eastern Mediterranean will no longer be a place where Israeli naval forces can freely exercise their “bullying” practices against civilian vessels, a Turkish official said Friday.

The official said this would be the outcome of Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu’s statement earlier in the day that “Turkey would take every precaution it deems necessary for the safety of maritime navigation in the eastern Mediterranean.”

(...)

Using Turkish naval vessels to escort ships carrying aid to Palestine and observing free navigation in the zone between the island of Cyprus and Israel are among the plans set to be implemented, sources said, adding that Turkish war ships would be more frequently seen in the area.
‘Israel’s bullying in eastern Med is over’ - Hurriyet Daily News

All that chest thumping! Does it hurt to breathe?

The issue here is gas, not Gaza, and there is never a shortage of gas coming from Erdogan's government.
 

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