Israel Palestine issue is dividing Americans within both the Trump and the Biden camp

[Rigby5]

Too many antisemites on here...waaaay too many

Again:
The word is spelled "anti-Semitic" because it is a proper noun, deriving from Shem, the son of Noah who is the father of the Arab branch.
It does NOT mean Jewish hatred, but means hatred of all Arabs, including the Hebrew Arabs.
And clearly it is Zionism that is pure evil.
It is against Judaism because real Jews know they are supposed to in atonement for the sins of arrogance and pride, until the Messiah comes.
And Zionism violates basic norms of legal and moral justice, replacing them with the corrupt and evil conceit that some are the "Chosen People" with free reign to steal whatever they consider the "Promised Land".

 

[Rigby5]

It doesn't matter. It's not our country. And it's not our business. What they have today, is what they have. It doesn't matter if you go back 5 years or 500.

That may be the case in places we bear no guilt, like the Uyghur in China.
But it is entirely the US that created Israel and its current evil government.
We gave the Zionists all our surplus WWII weapons, even though we knew they were intent on genocide even back then in the 1940s.
Menachim Begin was the murderer who planted the bombs that blew up the British peace keepers in the King David Hotel, and gunned down the UN moderator Folke Bernadotte.
So we knew that the Zionists were evil and violent, and yet gave them total control over the unarmed natives, who were always the vast majority.

So it is our fault and therefore our business.

 

[White 6]

Wrong.
This was NOT "an attack by Hamas".
It was the Palestinians finally acting in self defense against 80 years of deliberate genocide, that murdered tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians, and stole their homes.
Which should unify anyone with a sense of justice or law, to undo the illegal US creation of Israel.

Bull. It was an act of terrorism, indiscriminately murdering, raping and kidnapping unarmed civilian, by a pack of rabid animals with automatic weapon, that should be hunted down and exterminated.

 

[YoursTruly]

That may be the case in places we bear no guilt, like the Uyghur in China.
But it is entirely the US that created Israel and its current evil government.
We gave the Zionists all our surplus WWII weapons, even though we knew they were intent on genocide even back then in the 1940s.
Menachim Begin was the murderer who planted the bombs that blew up the British peace keepers in the King David Hotel, and gunned down the UN moderator Folke Bernadotte.
So we knew that the Zionists were evil and violent, and yet gave them total control over the unarmed natives, who were always the vast majority.

So it is our fault and therefore our business.

The UN created Israel. Then gave it to them. It's theirs now. They can keep it or lose it. It's all up to them now. The warranty has expired.

 

[Rigby5]

Bull. It was an act of terrorism, indiscriminately murdering, raping and kidnapping unarmed civilian, by a pack of rabid animals with automatic weapon, that should be hunted down and exterminated.

Wrong.
Israel has been murdering, kidnapping, imprisoning, and illegally confiscating properties for 80 years.
Hamas is justified in doing anything at all to end the crimes by Israel.
And the claims of "rape" and the murder of children has been utterly proven false.
You should have done better research before taking the wrong side.

The start of the terrorism was Menachim Begin blowing up the King David hotel and gunning down Folke Bernadotte, so that he could have his terrorist gang start to massacre hundreds of unarmed native villages like Deir Yassin.
Its all well documented for anyone who actually wants to know what really is happening.

Deir Yassin massacre - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Rigby5]

The UN created Israel. Then gave it to them. It's theirs now. They can keep it or lose it. It's all up to them now. The warranty has expired.

Wrong.
The UN has zero authority to violate the Treaty of San Remo and the Treaty of Sevres.
The UN is just a voluntary club or only some nations, so have no legal authority at all, in any way.
To have legal authority, the UN would have to have a constitution, laws written ahead of time, and an impartial judiciary to ensure laws were not abused.
The UN is run more like a social club, where it all depends on if you can bribe enough votes.
Palestine not only has priority because it was created 28 years before the UN even existed, but because it is the natural right of self determination and local autonomy of the natives.
The Israelis have no rights since they are illegal immigrants.

 

[White 6]

Wrong.
Israel has been murdering, kidnapping, imprisoning, and illegally confiscating properties for 80 years.
Hamas is justified in doing anything at all to end the crimes by Israel.
And the claims of "rape" and the murder of children has been utterly proven false.
You should have done better research before taking the wrong side.

The start of the terrorism was Menachim Begin blowing up the King David hotel and gunning down Folke Bernadotte, so that he could have his terrorist gang start to massacre hundreds of unarmed native villages like Deir Yassin.
Its all well documented for anyone who actually wants to know what really is happening.

Deir Yassin massacre - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Well, I guess the asshole Palestinian Hamas organization should have just quietly killed or rape one, so the world would pass by, instead of going wholesale terrorist mass strike. Killing more Jewish people (in this case Israelis) along with raping, baby killing and hostage abduction in one terrorist sneak attack than anytime since WWII.

The dumbasses called down world attention on themselves and now civilized people around the world condemn them rightfully as terrorist. If you support HAMAS, you are a piece of shit, also.

 

[Rigby5]

Well, I guess the asshole Palestinian Hamas organization should have just quietly killed or rape one, so the world would pass by, instead of going wholesale terrorist mass strike. Killing more Jewish people (in this case Israelis) along with raping, baby killing and hostage abduction in one terrorist sneak attack than anytime since WWII.

The dumbasses called down world attention on themselves and now civilized people around the world condemn them rightfully as terrorist. If you support HAMAS, you are a piece of shit, also.

Wrong.
Again, not only have the claims of rape and baby beheading been proven wrong, but making those false claims destroys the credibility of anyone repeating them.

The "dumbasses" did everything they could right from 1946 to end the violence by Zionists and try to live in peace, but Israel has always been intent on total genocide of the natives.
And absolutely ANYTHING is then warranted to bring world attention to the genocide by Israel, because the Palestinians have absolutely no way to stop it. They have no significant weapons or trained soldiers. They have always essentially been helpless to the murder, abduction, and imprisonment by Israel.
Obviously since the US is the source of all the Israeli weapons, ($6 billion a year), it is the responsibility of the US to end the illegal genocide of the Palestinians by Israel.

What more do you need to understand that this is deliberate genocide, just slightly slowed down for appearance sake?

 

[Rogue AI]

You can say whatever you want brother doesn’t bother me.

All throughout this form, there are Biden supporters who support Israel and Trump supporters that oppose Israel

None of Trump's supporters back Hamas, that cannot be said for Biden's supporters. Some of us simply don't support any long-term foreign entanglements.

 

[TheYellowKing]

Well, I guess the asshole Palestinian Hamas organization should have just quietly killed or rape one, so the world would pass by, instead of going wholesale terrorist mass strike. Killing more Jewish people (in this case Israelis) along with raping, baby killing and hostage abduction in one terrorist sneak attack than anytime since WWII.

The dumbasses called down world attention on themselves and now civilized people around the world condemn them rightfully as terrorist. If you support HAMAS, you are a piece of shit, also.

People can hate terrorist like Hamas while also recognizing Israhell are terrorist themselves its called being ambivalent and knowing two wrongs don't make a right and in either case we shouldn't be sending money to Israel to kill civilians and we shouldn't be sending money to Iran or Hamas

 

[White 6]

People can hate terrorist like Hamas while also recognizing Israhell are terrorist themselves its called being ambivalent and knowing two wrongs don't make a right and in either case we shouldn't be sending money to Israel to kill civilians and we shouldn't be sending money to Iran or Hamas

Nope. Try selling that in a couple of years from this horrific terrorist attack. I have no room for it my considerations at this time.

 

[TheYellowKing]

Nope. Try selling that in a couple of years from this horrific terrorist attack. I have no room for it my considerations at this time.

Then you have no room for honest discussion on this issue so I bid you good day