Israel on the mooch

[Sally]

You Sally are a sorry shithead.

Look in the mirror, Pbel. I guess Pbel was so hot to show us the Jews, but he sure seems loathe to tell us the names of Christians and Muslims in the Obama administration and how they stand on Israel. I heard the Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated the White House. Hear anything about this, Pbel? I hope you all notice that Pbel doesn't like anyone to post against him. If you do, right away out comes the names from him, just like he called someone a Gayhead today. Do you have anything against Gays, Pbel, that you felt you had to call someone that?

Blah blah blah...prove your points with your own list dummy...I gave you your lists, now list all others and tell us what percentage they are in population to the others?

Calculate the per capita in campaign donations influence on government and you answer will clearly appear.

Looks like Pbel isn't interested in keeping track of the Christians or Muslims in the Obama administration so he can tell us who is for or against Israel. I have to laugh at how one site gives the names of the same Jews as Pbel did, and they called it Zionist Jews, which is a hoot of course because some of the names on Pbel's list are Leftist Jews who usually aren't for Israel. Tell us, Pbel, how much money do the Koch brothers donate to political causes? I would asume you know that they are not Jewish, and since you have been into this for years, you should have the figures right at your fingertips..

 

[proudveteran06]

Look in the mirror, Pbel. I guess Pbel was so hot to show us the Jews, but he sure seems loathe to tell us the names of Christians and Muslims in the Obama administration and how they stand on Israel. I heard the Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated the White House. Hear anything about this, Pbel? I hope you all notice that Pbel doesn't like anyone to post against him. If you do, right away out comes the names from him, just like he called someone a Gayhead today. Do you have anything against Gays, Pbel, that you felt you had to call someone that?

Blah blah blah...prove your points with your own list dummy...I gave you your lists, now list all others and tell us what percentage they are in population to the others?

Calculate the per capita in campaign donations influence on government and you answer will clearly appear.

Looks like Pbel isn't interested in keeping track of the Christians or Muslims in the Obama administration so he can tell us who is for or against Israel. I have to laugh at how one site gives the names of the same Jews as Pbel did, and they called it Zionist Jews, which is a hoot of course because some of the names on Pbel's list are Leftist Jews who usually aren't for Israel. Tell us, Pbel, how much money do the Koch brothers donate to political causes? I would asume you know that they are not Jewish, and since you have been into this for years, you should have the figures right at your fingertips..

Just agree with him that we run AND control the Gov't

 

[pbel]

Blah blah blah...prove your points with your own list dummy...I gave you your lists, now list all others and tell us what percentage they are in population to the others?

Calculate the per capita in campaign donations influence on government and you answer will clearly appear.

Looks like Pbel isn't interested in keeping track of the Christians or Muslims in the Obama administration so he can tell us who is for or against Israel. I have to laugh at how one site gives the names of the same Jews as Pbel did, and they called it Zionist Jews, which is a hoot of course because some of the names on Pbel's list are Leftist Jews who usually aren't for Israel. Tell us, Pbel, how much money do the Koch brothers donate to political causes? I would asume you know that they are not Jewish, and since you have been into this for years, you should have the figures right at your fingertips..

Just agree with him that we run AND control the Gov't

The Truth be known.

 

[Sally]

Blah blah blah...prove your points with your own list dummy...I gave you your lists, now list all others and tell us what percentage they are in population to the others?

Calculate the per capita in campaign donations influence on government and you answer will clearly appear.

Looks like Pbel isn't interested in keeping track of the Christians or Muslims in the Obama administration so he can tell us who is for or against Israel. I have to laugh at how one site gives the names of the same Jews as Pbel did, and they called it Zionist Jews, which is a hoot of course because some of the names on Pbel's list are Leftist Jews who usually aren't for Israel. Tell us, Pbel, how much money do the Koch brothers donate to political causes? I would asume you know that they are not Jewish, and since you have been into this for years, you should have the figures right at your fingertips..

Just agree with him that we run AND control the Gov't

I'm the Secretary of the Interior.. Which department are you heading up? Since my husband is retired military, maybe he can be Secretary of Defense. I know a nice Hindu woman. We will have to think up a good Cabinet position for her. Maybe a Black neighbor of mine can take Eric Holder's job.

 

[Capstone]

Actually I once read that each American taxpaper only contribute about $3.00 to help Israel. ...

As noted by R.H. Curtiss nearly 17 years ago:

“[T]he nearly $14,630 every one of 5.8 million Israelis had received from the U.S. government by October 31, 1997, cost American taxpayers $23,241 per Israeli. That’s $116,205 for every Israeli family of five.”

Those figures involved non-adjusted monies from direct foreign aid up through FY97. Since then we've stacked another 17 years worth of aid and accumulated interest on top of those numbers.

The 'real world' cost of Israel to the American People, however, has been far worse than indicated above, as summed up nicely in the three essays found here.

 

[Sally]

Actually I once read that each American taxpaper only contribute about $3.00 to help Israel. ...

As noted by R.H. Curtiss nearly 17 years ago:

“[T]he nearly $14,630 every one of 5.8 million Israelis had received from the U.S. government by October 31, 1997, cost American taxpayers $23,241 per Israeli. That’s $116,205 for every Israeli family of five.”

Those figures involved non-adjusted monies from direct foreign aid up through FY97. Since then we've stacked another 17 years worth of aid and accumulated interest on top of those numbers.

The 'real world' cost of Israel to the American People, however, has been far worse than indicated above, as summed up nicely in the three essays found here.

Yeah, I am sure the American taxpayers are obsessing over the measly amount that goes to Israel from their taxes. They are more concerned about what is happening in their own cities and states and where their taxes are going -- sales tax, property tax, state tax, etc. You worry about what is going to Israel, and if you are so worried, why not run at the local level, work your way up to the state level, and then to the federal level? When you reach that level, you will be able to scream about "all the money" that is given to Israel to millions of people.

 

[Capstone]

Yeah, I am sure the American taxpayers are obsessing over the measly amount that goes to Israel from their taxes. They are more concerned about what is happening in their own cities and states and where their taxes are going -- sales tax, property tax, state tax, etc. You worry about what is going to Israel, ...

This is about more than just taxes, Sally. MUCH more. In addition to the cash taken and given to Israel from the already limited pool of taxes collected (monies that would be far better spent domestically, in ways that would boost the American economy, for a change), the US citizenry is charged interest for every dollar printed by the Federal Reserve. When those dollars are distributed outside of the United States, the American People receive no benefit whatsoever from that interest, which is added to our national debt with each new round of 'raising the debt ceiling', increasing the seemingly ever-growing sum that's been accruing on the FED's ledger for more than a hundred years.

What's more, as noted back in 2003 in an article written by Economist Thomas R. Stauffer...

Conflicts in the Middle East have been very costly to the U.S., as well as to the rest of the world. An estimate of the total cost to the U.S. alone of instability and conflict in the region—which emanates from the core, Israeli-Palestinian conflict—amounts to close to $3 trillion, measured in 2002 dollars. This is an amount almost four times greater than the cost of the Vietnam war, also reckoned in 2002 dollars.

Even this figure under estimates the costs because certain classes of expenditure remain unquantified. In particular, no reliable figure is available for the costs of "Project Independence," Washington's lavishly promoted effort to reduce U.S. dependence on oil from the Middle East. That effort, which was subverted early on by diverse local special interests, was designed primarily to insulate Israel from any new "Arab oil weapon" after 1973/74, and may easily have cost $1 trillion. Even though the outlays were rationalized in the interest of "national security," however, they contributed little or nothing to reducing U.S. strategic dependence upon imported oil from the Middle East. Similarly, aid to Israel—and thus the regional total—also is understated, since much is outside of the foreign aid appropriation process or implicit in other programs. Support for Israel comes to $1.8 trillion, including special trade advantages, preferential contracts, or aid buried in other accounts. In addition to the financial outlay, U.S. aid to Israel costs some 275,00 American jobs each year.[...][emphasis Capstone's]

...the costs associated with the "core, Israeli-Palestinian conflict" have gone well beyond the supposed "measly amount(s)" stolen from the US tax pool every year.

Zionist apologists are always quick to point out that the US provides foreign assistance to places like Egypt and Jordan too; but they never mention that those expenditures are all tied into the core conflict via Israel's past and present incursions.

...and if you are so worried, why not run at the local level, work your way up to the state level, and then to the federal level? When you reach that level, you will be able to scream about "all the money" that is given to Israel to millions of people.

Any politician expressing views like mine would never make it beyond the local level, because those who determine the viability of candidates from the state level on up invariably see to it that anti-Zionist rhetoric amounts to 'political suicide', not because there isn't growing grass roots support for cutting Israel's umbilical cord 66 years after its birth, but because there's NO support for a such ideas where it counts (I.E. in the minds of the 1%er's financiers).

I do what I can within my limited reach, but the cards have been stacked against so-called 'subversive ideologies' since long before I took my first breath outside of the womb.

Ain't gonna stop me from trying, though...

 

[Sally]

Yeah, I am sure the American taxpayers are obsessing over the measly amount that goes to Israel from their taxes. They are more concerned about what is happening in their own cities and states and where their taxes are going -- sales tax, property tax, state tax, etc. You worry about what is going to Israel, ...

This is about more than just taxes, Sally. MUCH more. In addition to the cash taken and given to Israel from the already limited pool of taxes collected (monies that would be far better spent domestically, in ways that would boost the American economy, for a change), the US citizenry is charged interest for every dollar printed by the Federal Reserve. When those dollars are distributed outside of the United States, the American People receive no benefit whatsoever from that interest, which is added to our national debt with each new round of 'raising the debt ceiling', increasing the seemingly ever-growing sum that's been accruing on the FED's ledger for more than a hundred years.

What's more, as noted back in 2003 in an article written by Economist Thomas R. Stauffer...

Conflicts in the Middle East have been very costly to the U.S., as well as to the rest of the world. An estimate of the total cost to the U.S. alone of instability and conflict in the region—which emanates from the core, Israeli-Palestinian conflict—amounts to close to $3 trillion, measured in 2002 dollars. This is an amount almost four times greater than the cost of the Vietnam war, also reckoned in 2002 dollars.

Even this figure under estimates the costs because certain classes of expenditure remain unquantified. In particular, no reliable figure is available for the costs of "Project Independence," Washington's lavishly promoted effort to reduce U.S. dependence on oil from the Middle East. That effort, which was subverted early on by diverse local special interests, was designed primarily to insulate Israel from any new "Arab oil weapon" after 1973/74, and may easily have cost $1 trillion. Even though the outlays were rationalized in the interest of "national security," however, they contributed little or nothing to reducing U.S. strategic dependence upon imported oil from the Middle East. Similarly, aid to Israel—and thus the regional total—also is understated, since much is outside of the foreign aid appropriation process or implicit in other programs. Support for Israel comes to $1.8 trillion, including special trade advantages, preferential contracts, or aid buried in other accounts. In addition to the financial outlay, U.S. aid to Israel costs some 275,00 American jobs each year.[...][emphasis Capstone's]

...the costs associated with the "core, Israeli-Palestinian conflict" have gone well beyond the supposed "measly amount(s)" stolen from the US tax pool every year.

Zionist apologists are always quick to point out that the US provides foreign assistance to places like Egypt and Jordan too; but they never mention that those expenditures are all tied into the core conflict via Israel's past and present incursions.

...and if you are so worried, why not run at the local level, work your way up to the state level, and then to the federal level? When you reach that level, you will be able to scream about "all the money" that is given to Israel to millions of people.

Any politician expressing views like mine would never make it beyond the local level, because those who determine the viability of candidates from the state level on up invariably see to it that anti-Zionist rhetoric amounts to 'political suicide', not because there isn't growing grass roots support for cutting Israel's umbilical cord 66 years after its birth, but because there's NO support for a such ideas where it counts (I.E. in the minds of the 1%er's financiers).

I do what I can within my limited reach, but the cards have been stacked against so-called 'subversive ideologies' since long before I took my first breath outside of the womb.

Ain't gonna stop me from trying, though...

Strange how we give money to many countries and the dictators put the money right into their pockets, but there are those posters who are forever criticizing any help that Israel is getting. I am willing to bet if you go out on the streets of America and give the passerbys your spiel about Israel, they would tell you that they have more pressing concerns about where their tax money is going. I hope you don't mind if I don't bother reading your response. Let those with the same mind set as you lap it up. It is probably more of the same stuff that has been posted for years by those who are anti-Israel. However, if you decide on running for some local office on your way toward gaining a federal office so you can rant and rave about the help Israel is given, I will be glad to send you $100 as something for your compaign. Go for it, Big Boy!!! Meanwhile, I will continue to go with what the retired Naval Intelligence Officer who had an Israeli counterpart and who used to post had to say -- that if Americans knew just how much Israel helped America, Americans would begrudge Israel nothing.

 

[pbel]

Yeah, I am sure the American taxpayers are obsessing over the measly amount that goes to Israel from their taxes. They are more concerned about what is happening in their own cities and states and where their taxes are going -- sales tax, property tax, state tax, etc. You worry about what is going to Israel, ...

This is about more than just taxes, Sally. MUCH more. In addition to the cash taken and given to Israel from the already limited pool of taxes collected (monies that would be far better spent domestically, in ways that would boost the American economy, for a change), the US citizenry is charged interest for every dollar printed by the Federal Reserve. When those dollars are distributed outside of the United States, the American People receive no benefit whatsoever from that interest, which is added to our national debt with each new round of 'raising the debt ceiling', increasing the seemingly ever-growing sum that's been accruing on the FED's ledger for more than a hundred years.

What's more, as noted back in 2003 in an article written by Economist Thomas R. Stauffer...



...the costs associated with the "core, Israeli-Palestinian conflict" have gone well beyond the supposed "measly amount(s)" stolen from the US tax pool every year.

Zionist apologists are always quick to point out that the US provides foreign assistance to places like Egypt and Jordan too; but they never mention that those expenditures are all tied into the core conflict via Israel's past and present incursions.

...and if you are so worried, why not run at the local level, work your way up to the state level, and then to the federal level? When you reach that level, you will be able to scream about "all the money" that is given to Israel to millions of people.

Any politician expressing views like mine would never make it beyond the local level, because those who determine the viability of candidates from the state level on up invariably see to it that anti-Zionist rhetoric amounts to 'political suicide', not because there isn't growing grass roots support for cutting Israel's umbilical cord 66 years after its birth, but because there's NO support for a such ideas where it counts (I.E. in the minds of the 1%er's financiers).

I do what I can within my limited reach, but the cards have been stacked against so-called 'subversive ideologies' since long before I took my first breath outside of the womb.

Ain't gonna stop me from trying, though...

Strange how we give money to many countries and the dictators put the money right into their pockets, but there are those posters who are forever criticizing any help that Israel is getting. I am willing to bet if you go out on the streets of America and give the passerbys your spiel about Israel, they would tell you that they have more pressing concerns about where their tax money is going. I hope you don't mind if I don't bother reading your response. Let those with the same mind set as you lap it up. It is probably more of the same stuff that has been posted for years by those who are anti-Israel. However, if you decide on running for some local office on your way toward gaining a federal office so you can rant and rave about the help Israel is given, I will be glad to send you $100 as something for your compaign. Go for it, Big Boy!!! Meanwhile, I will continue to go with what the retired Naval Intelligence Officer who had an Israeli counterpart and who used to post had to say -- that if Americans knew just how much Israel helped America, Americans would begrudge Israel nothing.

Can anyone take this obsessive compulsive air-bag blowing hot air from both ends?

 

[Sally]

This is about more than just taxes, Sally. MUCH more. In addition to the cash taken and given to Israel from the already limited pool of taxes collected (monies that would be far better spent domestically, in ways that would boost the American economy, for a change), the US citizenry is charged interest for every dollar printed by the Federal Reserve. When those dollars are distributed outside of the United States, the American People receive no benefit whatsoever from that interest, which is added to our national debt with each new round of 'raising the debt ceiling', increasing the seemingly ever-growing sum that's been accruing on the FED's ledger for more than a hundred years.

What's more, as noted back in 2003 in an article written by Economist Thomas R. Stauffer...



...the costs associated with the "core, Israeli-Palestinian conflict" have gone well beyond the supposed "measly amount(s)" stolen from the US tax pool every year.

Zionist apologists are always quick to point out that the US provides foreign assistance to places like Egypt and Jordan too; but they never mention that those expenditures are all tied into the core conflict via Israel's past and present incursions.




Any politician expressing views like mine would never make it beyond the local level, because those who determine the viability of candidates from the state level on up invariably see to it that anti-Zionist rhetoric amounts to 'political suicide', not because there isn't growing grass roots support for cutting Israel's umbilical cord 66 years after its birth, but because there's NO support for a such ideas where it counts (I.E. in the minds of the 1%er's financiers).

I do what I can within my limited reach, but the cards have been stacked against so-called 'subversive ideologies' since long before I took my first breath outside of the womb.

Ain't gonna stop me from trying, though...

Strange how we give money to many countries and the dictators put the money right into their pockets, but there are those posters who are forever criticizing any help that Israel is getting. I am willing to bet if you go out on the streets of America and give the passerbys your spiel about Israel, they would tell you that they have more pressing concerns about where their tax money is going. I hope you don't mind if I don't bother reading your response. Let those with the same mind set as you lap it up. It is probably more of the same stuff that has been posted for years by those who are anti-Israel. However, if you decide on running for some local office on your way toward gaining a federal office so you can rant and rave about the help Israel is given, I will be glad to send you $100 as something for your compaign. Go for it, Big Boy!!! Meanwhile, I will continue to go with what the retired Naval Intelligence Officer who had an Israeli counterpart and who used to post had to say -- that if Americans knew just how much Israel helped America, Americans would begrudge Israel nothing.

Can anyone take this obsessive compulsive air-bag blowing hot air from both ends?

Hmm, looks like Pbel still hasn't picked up his head from his proctologist. The obsessive-compulsive one Pbel is the one who dragged out his coloring box, made up silly poems about posters when they were not posting for ages, and saved all his ridiculous essays to drag up time and time again over the years. Ask your psychiatrist what caused you to do this.

 

[pbel]

Strange how we give money to many countries and the dictators put the money right into their pockets, but there are those posters who are forever criticizing any help that Israel is getting. I am willing to bet if you go out on the streets of America and give the passerbys your spiel about Israel, they would tell you that they have more pressing concerns about where their tax money is going. I hope you don't mind if I don't bother reading your response. Let those with the same mind set as you lap it up. It is probably more of the same stuff that has been posted for years by those who are anti-Israel. However, if you decide on running for some local office on your way toward gaining a federal office so you can rant and rave about the help Israel is given, I will be glad to send you $100 as something for your compaign. Go for it, Big Boy!!! Meanwhile, I will continue to go with what the retired Naval Intelligence Officer who had an Israeli counterpart and who used to post had to say -- that if Americans knew just how much Israel helped America, Americans would begrudge Israel nothing.

Can anyone take this obsessive compulsive air-bag blowing hot air from both ends?

Hmm, looks like Pbel still hasn't picked up his head from his proctologist. The obsessive-compulsive one Pbel is the one who dragged out his coloring box, made up silly poems about posters when they were not posting for ages, and saved all his ridiculous essays to drag up time and time again over the years. Ask your psychiatrist what caused you to do this.

Any chance ya'll married to Hossfly? Proctologist seems to be part of your both medical advice...Gas on!

 

[Sally]

Can anyone take this obsessive compulsive air-bag blowing hot air from both ends?

Hmm, looks like Pbel still hasn't picked up his head from his proctologist. The obsessive-compulsive one Pbel is the one who dragged out his coloring box, made up silly poems about posters when they were not posting for ages, and saved all his ridiculous essays to drag up time and time again over the years. Ask your psychiatrist what caused you to do this.

Any chance ya'll married to Hossfly? Proctologist seems to be part of your both medical advice...Gas on!

But, Pbel, all those readers for years knew where your head was? They weren't asleep at the switch as you wished they were.

 

[Phoenall]

Yeah, I am sure the American taxpayers are obsessing over the measly amount that goes to Israel from their taxes. They are more concerned about what is happening in their own cities and states and where their taxes are going -- sales tax, property tax, state tax, etc. You worry about what is going to Israel, ...

This is about more than just taxes, Sally. MUCH more. In addition to the cash taken and given to Israel from the already limited pool of taxes collected (monies that would be far better spent domestically, in ways that would boost the American economy, for a change), the US citizenry is charged interest for every dollar printed by the Federal Reserve. When those dollars are distributed outside of the United States, the American People receive no benefit whatsoever from that interest, which is added to our national debt with each new round of 'raising the debt ceiling', increasing the seemingly ever-growing sum that's been accruing on the FED's ledger for more than a hundred years.

What's more, as noted back in 2003 in an article written by Economist Thomas R. Stauffer...

Conflicts in the Middle East have been very costly to the U.S., as well as to the rest of the world. An estimate of the total cost to the U.S. alone of instability and conflict in the region—which emanates from the core, Israeli-Palestinian conflict—amounts to close to $3 trillion, measured in 2002 dollars. This is an amount almost four times greater than the cost of the Vietnam war, also reckoned in 2002 dollars.

Even this figure under estimates the costs because certain classes of expenditure remain unquantified. In particular, no reliable figure is available for the costs of "Project Independence," Washington's lavishly promoted effort to reduce U.S. dependence on oil from the Middle East. That effort, which was subverted early on by diverse local special interests, was designed primarily to insulate Israel from any new "Arab oil weapon" after 1973/74, and may easily have cost $1 trillion. Even though the outlays were rationalized in the interest of "national security," however, they contributed little or nothing to reducing U.S. strategic dependence upon imported oil from the Middle East. Similarly, aid to Israel—and thus the regional total—also is understated, since much is outside of the foreign aid appropriation process or implicit in other programs. Support for Israel comes to $1.8 trillion, including special trade advantages, preferential contracts, or aid buried in other accounts. In addition to the financial outlay, U.S. aid to Israel costs some 275,00 American jobs each year.[...][emphasis Capstone's]

...the costs associated with the "core, Israeli-Palestinian conflict" have gone well beyond the supposed "measly amount(s)" stolen from the US tax pool every year.

Zionist apologists are always quick to point out that the US provides foreign assistance to places like Egypt and Jordan too; but they never mention that those expenditures are all tied into the core conflict via Israel's past and present incursions.

...and if you are so worried, why not run at the local level, work your way up to the state level, and then to the federal level? When you reach that level, you will be able to scream about "all the money" that is given to Israel to millions of people.

Any politician expressing views like mine would never make it beyond the local level, because those who determine the viability of candidates from the state level on up invariably see to it that anti-Zionist rhetoric amounts to 'political suicide', not because there isn't growing grass roots support for cutting Israel's umbilical cord 66 years after its birth, but because there's NO support for a such ideas where it counts (I.E. in the minds of the 1%er's financiers).

I do what I can within my limited reach, but the cards have been stacked against so-called 'subversive ideologies' since long before I took my first breath outside of the womb.

Ain't gonna stop me from trying, though...

And only an ISLAMONAZI APOLOGIST would put all the blame for the conflict on the Israelis. At the end of the day the evidence points to the arab muslims as the major cause of the problem. As for Israeli aid why do you ISLAMINAZI APOLOGISTS always ignore the fact that the majority of the aid is in the form of LOANS that are paid back with interest every year. So there is no drain on the American tax payers by Israel at all, it is all from the Islamic nations who just get hand outs.

 

[Phoenall]

This is about more than just taxes, Sally. MUCH more. In addition to the cash taken and given to Israel from the already limited pool of taxes collected (monies that would be far better spent domestically, in ways that would boost the American economy, for a change), the US citizenry is charged interest for every dollar printed by the Federal Reserve. When those dollars are distributed outside of the United States, the American People receive no benefit whatsoever from that interest, which is added to our national debt with each new round of 'raising the debt ceiling', increasing the seemingly ever-growing sum that's been accruing on the FED's ledger for more than a hundred years.

What's more, as noted back in 2003 in an article written by Economist Thomas R. Stauffer...



...the costs associated with the "core, Israeli-Palestinian conflict" have gone well beyond the supposed "measly amount(s)" stolen from the US tax pool every year.

Zionist apologists are always quick to point out that the US provides foreign assistance to places like Egypt and Jordan too; but they never mention that those expenditures are all tied into the core conflict via Israel's past and present incursions.




Any politician expressing views like mine would never make it beyond the local level, because those who determine the viability of candidates from the state level on up invariably see to it that anti-Zionist rhetoric amounts to 'political suicide', not because there isn't growing grass roots support for cutting Israel's umbilical cord 66 years after its birth, but because there's NO support for a such ideas where it counts (I.E. in the minds of the 1%er's financiers).

I do what I can within my limited reach, but the cards have been stacked against so-called 'subversive ideologies' since long before I took my first breath outside of the womb.

Ain't gonna stop me from trying, though...

Strange how we give money to many countries and the dictators put the money right into their pockets, but there are those posters who are forever criticizing any help that Israel is getting. I am willing to bet if you go out on the streets of America and give the passerbys your spiel about Israel, they would tell you that they have more pressing concerns about where their tax money is going. I hope you don't mind if I don't bother reading your response. Let those with the same mind set as you lap it up. It is probably more of the same stuff that has been posted for years by those who are anti-Israel. However, if you decide on running for some local office on your way toward gaining a federal office so you can rant and rave about the help Israel is given, I will be glad to send you $100 as something for your compaign. Go for it, Big Boy!!! Meanwhile, I will continue to go with what the retired Naval Intelligence Officer who had an Israeli counterpart and who used to post had to say -- that if Americans knew just how much Israel helped America, Americans would begrudge Israel nothing.

Can anyone take this obsessive compulsive air-bag blowing hot air from both ends?

Whats wrong don't like the truth, is it that hard for you to swallow. At the last released set of figures $10 billion paid in aid to Islamic nations like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan while Israel only got $500,000 in aid and $3 billion in loans.

 

[Phoenall]

The complete list, Pbel. the complete list -- all those appointments made by this


administration and whether they are for Israel or not. I am not asking for a list from all the previous administrations, just this one. Since you are so obsessed with this, one would think this would be a snap for you to produce such a list. I think the readers are aware that even thought Pbel, Mr. No Nothing Who Thinks He Knows It All, has been going on and on about this for years and years, he cannot produce a list.

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Tony Blinken Deputy National Security Advisor
Danielle Borrin Director of Intergovernmental Affairs and Deputy Director of Public Engagement
Gary Gensler Chairman, Commodity Futures Trading Commission
Jonathan Greenblatt Special Assistant to the President and Director, Office of Social Innovation and Civic Participation (Domestic Policy Council)
Jack Lew Secretary of the Treasury
Eric Lynn Middle East Policy Adviser
Matt Nosanchuk Associate Director, Office of Public Engagement for Jewish Outreach
David Plouffe Senior Advisor to the President
Daniel Rubenstein Ambassador to Syria
Dan Shapiro Ambassador to Israel
Gene Sperling Director, National Economic Council
Aviva Sufian Special Envoy, U.S. Holocaust Survivor Services (Inaugural role)
Adam Szubin Director, Office of Foreign Assets Control (Treasury)
Janet Yellen Chairwoman, Federal Reserve


Former Members
Ben Bernanke (2006-2013) Chairman, Federal Reserve
Mary Schapiro (2009-2012) Chairwoman, Securities and Exchange Commission
Steven Simon (2009-2012) Senior Director, Middle East/North Africa, National Security Council
Rahm Emanuel (2009-2010) Chief of Staff to the President
David Axelrod (2009-2011) Senior Advisor to the President
Elena Kagan (2009-2010) Solicitor General of the United States
Peter Orszag (2009-2010) Director of the Office of Management and Budget
Lawrence Summers ('09-'11) Director National Economic Council
Mona Sutphen (2009-2011) Deputy White House Chief of Staff
James B. Steinberg ('09-'11 ) Deputy Secretary of State
Dennis Ross (2009-2011 ) Special Assistant to the President
Ronald Klain (2009-2011) Chief of Staff to the Vice President
Jared Bernstein (2009-2011) Chief Economist/Economic Policy Advisor to the Vice President
Susan Sher (2009-2011) Chief of Staff to the First Lady
Alice Rivlin Member, National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility & Reform
Lee Feinstein (2009) Campaign Foreign Policy Advisor
Mara Rudman (2009) Foreign Policy Advisor

Where is Sally the AirHead?

WOW a whole 14 individuals are apparently running the US government on behalf of Israel. Cant you do any better than that, more so when you claimed that there were a lot more than this. Was this why it took so long to get the list out of you, and you then had to pad it out with manes of previous appointees to make it look bigger.

 

[Phoenall]

Where is Sally the AirHead?

Pbel really has to pick up his head from his proctologist. There are many appointments that were made who weren't even Jewish. There were Christian and Muslim appointments which I have read about, but I don't save names since I am not obsessed like Pbel is.. Meanwhile, after Pbel picks up his head, he will give us a list of the Christian and Muslim appointments and tell us which ones are for Israel and which ones are against. Maybe there are even Buddhist and Hindu appointments of whom Pbel is aware of. Gosh, maybe Pbel can give us the names of all the heads of the various Cabinet Departments and those directly underneath each one. I know that I couldn't, but perhaps he knows the religion of each one.

You Sally are a sorry Airhead.

Always the same with these Walter Mitty characters, resort to personal abuse when caught out telling porky pies

 

[Phoenall]

Looks like Pbel isn't interested in keeping track of the Christians or Muslims in the Obama administration so he can tell us who is for or against Israel. I have to laugh at how one site gives the names of the same Jews as Pbel did, and they called it Zionist Jews, which is a hoot of course because some of the names on Pbel's list are Leftist Jews who usually aren't for Israel. Tell us, Pbel, how much money do the Koch brothers donate to political causes? I would asume you know that they are not Jewish, and since you have been into this for years, you should have the figures right at your fingertips..

Just agree with him that we run AND control the Gov't

The Truth be known.

That the smallest racial group in the world runs the world which is why the muslims in the M.E. face extinction at the hands of everyone else. The truth be known that it is the ISLAMONAZIS that are trying to rule the world through violence and bloodshed

 

[Phoenall]

Actually I once read that each American taxpaper only contribute about $3.00 to help Israel. ...

As noted by R.H. Curtiss nearly 17 years ago:

“[T]he nearly $14,630 every one of 5.8 million Israelis had received from the U.S. government by October 31, 1997, cost American taxpayers $23,241 per Israeli. That’s $116,205 for every Israeli family of five.”

Those figures involved non-adjusted monies from direct foreign aid up through FY97. Since then we've stacked another 17 years worth of aid and accumulated interest on top of those numbers.

The 'real world' cost of Israel to the American People, however, has been far worse than indicated above, as summed up nicely in the three essays found here.

And what about the real world cost of islam to the American people, I think you will find that of the scale

 

[pbel]

Just agree with him that we run AND control the Gov't

The Truth be known.

That the smallest racial group in the world runs the world which is why the muslims in the M.E. face extinction at the hands of everyone else. The truth be known that it is the ISLAMONAZIS that are trying to rule the world through violence and bloodshed

Exactly how Israel rules, like ZioNazis.

 

[toastman]

The Truth be known.

That the smallest racial group in the world runs the world which is why the muslims in the M.E. face extinction at the hands of everyone else. The truth be known that it is the ISLAMONAZIS that are trying to rule the world through violence and bloodshed

Exactly how Israel rules, like ZioNazis.

Nah, thats just what the PaliNazis like you say.