Israel does not target civilians?

[Humanity]

The blockade was to punish Gazans for not voting for Israel's ***** (Fatah), in their elections.

BTW, defending your home from foreign aggression, is not terrorism.

Conspiracy theories aren't going to help your failed arguments.

BTW, in the relevant first world, we don't accept Islamic terrorist acts of war as defending anything.

You can not call freedom fighter terrorist but invaders are terrorist.

ISIS and Al Queda also call their terrorists freedom or resistance fighters. To the rest of the world, however, they're Islamic terrorist animals, as are the Hamas fighters.

Link!

LOL! It wants a link that ISIS doesn't call it's fighters "terrorists". Terrorist groups like ISIS and Hamas are all about glamorizing terrorism. If you don't know this basic fact then you aren't living on the same planet.

LOL... It can spout whatever it wants but it cannot provide a link to support its dross!

That's a big fat fail roodboy!

But, in the act of fairness, I will try again and see if you can provide a link....

"ISIS and Al Queda also call their terrorists freedom or resistance fighters."

LINK!

 

[Roudy]

Israel, as the occupying power, has a legal responsibility to protect the civilians of occupied land, that includes territory that Israel controls....

Strange as that may seem, it does NOT give Israel the right to bomb civilians, no matter what their fabled 'objectives'....

Really, so you think Palestinian animals have a right to slaughter Isrseli civilians but Isrselis have a legal responsibility not to defend themselves according to how they see fit? Ha ha ha. Typical terrorist appeaser mindset.

 

[Roudy]

Conspiracy theories aren't going to help your failed arguments.

BTW, in the relevant first world, we don't accept Islamic terrorist acts of war as defending anything.

You can not call freedom fighter terrorist but invaders are terrorist.

ISIS and Al Queda also call their terrorists freedom or resistance fighters. To the rest of the world, however, they're Islamic terrorist animals, as are the Hamas fighters.

Link!

LOL! It wants a link that ISIS doesn't call it's fighters "terrorists". Terrorist groups like ISIS and Hamas are all about glamorizing terrorism. If you don't know this basic fact then you aren't living on the same planet.

LOL... It can spout whatever it wants but it cannot provide a link to support its dross!

That's a big fat fail roodboy!

But, in the act of fairness, I will try again and see if you can provide a link....

"ISIS and Al Queda also call their terrorists freedom or resistance fighters."

LINK!

Even the leader of Hamas called Osama Bin Laden a holy warrior and freedom fighter. Case closed.

 

[Humanity]

Israel, as the occupying power, has a legal responsibility to protect the civilians of occupied land, that includes territory that Israel controls....

Strange as that may seem, it does NOT give Israel the right to bomb civilians, no matter what their fabled 'objectives'....

Really, so you think Palestinian animals have a right to slaughter Isrseli civilians but Isrselis have a legal responsibility not to defend themselves according to how they see fit? Ha ha ha. Typical terrorist appeaser mindset.

English comprehension not your strong point is it roodboy!

Read my post and have another try...

 

[Humanity]

You can not call freedom fighter terrorist but invaders are terrorist.

ISIS and Al Queda also call their terrorists freedom or resistance fighters. To the rest of the world, however, they're Islamic terrorist animals, as are the Hamas fighters.

Link!

LOL! It wants a link that ISIS doesn't call it's fighters "terrorists". Terrorist groups like ISIS and Hamas are all about glamorizing terrorism. If you don't know this basic fact then you aren't living on the same planet.

LOL... It can spout whatever it wants but it cannot provide a link to support its dross!

That's a big fat fail roodboy!

But, in the act of fairness, I will try again and see if you can provide a link....

"ISIS and Al Queda also call their terrorists freedom or resistance fighters."

LINK!

Even the leader of Hamas called Osama Bin Laden a holy warrior and freedom fighter. Case closed.

Link!

 

[Roudy]

Conspiracy theories aren't going to help your failed arguments.

BTW, in the relevant first world, we don't accept Islamic terrorist acts of war as defending anything.

You can not call freedom fighter terrorist but invaders are terrorist.

ISIS and Al Queda also call their terrorists freedom or resistance fighters. To the rest of the world, however, they're Islamic terrorist animals, as are the Hamas fighters.

Link!

LOL! It wants a link that ISIS doesn't call it's fighters "terrorists". Terrorist groups like ISIS and Hamas are all about glamorizing terrorism. If you don't know this basic fact then you aren't living on the same planet.

LOL... It can spout whatever it wants but it cannot provide a link to support its dross!

That's a big fat fail roodboy!

But, in the act of fairness, I will try again and see if you can provide a link....

"ISIS and Al Queda also call their terrorists freedom or resistance fighters."

LINK!

Yes, you ignoramus, all of these Islamic terrorist groups, Hamas, Al Queda, ISIS, Hezbollah, etc. consider themselves "Islamic resistance movements" in fact that is the literal translation for Hamas, therefore their fighters are considered resistant fighters fighting for freedom for Muslims (although it's freedom to practice Shariah in a fully Islamic caliphate that is). I feel like I'm talking to a teenager with zero knowledge.

 

[Roudy]

ISIS and Al Queda also call their terrorists freedom or resistance fighters. To the rest of the world, however, they're Islamic terrorist animals, as are the Hamas fighters.

Link!

LOL! It wants a link that ISIS doesn't call it's fighters "terrorists". Terrorist groups like ISIS and Hamas are all about glamorizing terrorism. If you don't know this basic fact then you aren't living on the same planet.

LOL... It can spout whatever it wants but it cannot provide a link to support its dross!

That's a big fat fail roodboy!

But, in the act of fairness, I will try again and see if you can provide a link....

"ISIS and Al Queda also call their terrorists freedom or resistance fighters."

LINK!

Even the leader of Hamas called Osama Bin Laden a holy warrior and freedom fighter. Case closed.

Link!

Link link link! Ha ha ha. Hamas leader wept for his hero Bin Laden, one terrorist leader mourns another:

The mourners of bin Laden

 

[Roudy]

Israel, as the occupying power, has a legal responsibility to protect the civilians of occupied land, that includes territory that Israel controls....

Strange as that may seem, it does NOT give Israel the right to bomb civilians, no matter what their fabled 'objectives'....

Really, so you think Palestinian animals have a right to slaughter Isrseli civilians but Isrselis have a legal responsibility not to defend themselves according to how they see fit? Ha ha ha. Typical terrorist appeaser mindset.

English comprehension not your strong point is it roodboy!

Read my post and have another try...

I did. You talk about civilian casualties but fail to focus on the Palestinians who constantly target civilians. Do you think they have a legal right to target Israeli civilians like the ISIS savages do in the West? Oh but wait, Israel cannot respond. Ha ha ha. Good one.

 

[RoccoR]

Billo_Really, et al,

Well, I have two things to say about this.

[How can you possibly claim they attack the civilian population, when only 28 people have died in 14 years of rocket attacks.

End the occupation and you won't get rockets.

(COMMENT)

At least 1,198 Israelis have been killed by Palestinian since September 29, 2000. (15 years). Just because the effective defense of the Israelis, combined with the ineffective rocket and missile program of the Palestinians, results in a disproportionate casualty rate, does not mean that is was harmless and should be ignored.

The deadly threat to be taken seriously is when the Palestinian failed or aborted attempt to Israeli citizens. Just like other crimes, the attempt consists of both an action and an intention. In attempt to kill Israelis, a Palestinian must take a direct step towards the killing (Launching) and must have the specific intent to kill Israeli (Targeted Israel). The depraved indifference of the Palestinians focuses on the risk to Israeli life created by the Palestinian’s conduct, NOT the casualties actually resulting (numbers are not that important --- the numbers go to "magnitude"). It is the wanton character of the Palestinian, so deficient in a moral sense of concern, so lacking in regard for the life or lives of others, that it constitutes an act that is imminently dangerous and presented a very high risk of death AND an unreasonable threat to the safety and security of the citizens of Israel and the Sovereignty of the State. If you want to know who the Palestinians are, well here it is in a demonstrated form.

One last POINT: In 2005, the IDF began a withdrawal from the Gaza Strip in which the disengagement was completed in September of that year. What did it prove. It proves that the Palestinians cannot be trusted. In 2005 the Palestinians launched over 400 rocket into Israel. After the disengagement, the Palestinians more than doubled the launch effort. (Over the last 15 years, over 15,000 launches were made into Israel.)

NOTE: We have begun to take about the more conventional terrorist approach of Kidnap and Murder. Nor have we talked about the intentional attempts by Palestinian Leaders to incite violence. ​

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

The blockade was to punish Gazans for not voting for Israel's ***** (Fatah), in their elections.

BTW, defending your home from foreign aggression, is not terrorism.

Conspiracy theories aren't going to help your failed arguments.

BTW, in the relevant first world, we don't accept Islamic terrorist acts of war as defending anything.

You can not call freedom fighter terrorist but invaders are terrorist.

ISIS and Al Queda also call their terrorists freedom or resistance fighters. To the rest of the world, however, they're Islamic terrorist animals, as are the Hamas fighters.

Link!

LOL! It wants a link that ISIS doesn't call it's fighters "terrorists". Terrorist groups like ISIS and Hamas are all about glamorizing terrorism. If you don't know this basic fact then you aren't living on the same planet.

Even Israel glamorizes its terrorism by calling it self defense.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Billo_Really, et al,

Well, I have two things to say about this.

[How can you possibly claim they attack the civilian population, when only 28 people have died in 14 years of rocket attacks.

End the occupation and you won't get rockets.

(COMMENT)

At least 1,198 Israelis have been killed by Palestinian since September 29, 2000. (15 years). Just because the effective defense of the Israelis, combined with the ineffective rocket and missile program of the Palestinians, results in a disproportionate casualty rate, does not mean that is was harmless and should be ignored.

The deadly threat to be taken seriously is when the Palestinian failed or aborted attempt to Israeli citizens. Just like other crimes, the attempt consists of both an action and an intention. In attempt to kill Israelis, a Palestinian must take a direct step towards the killing (Launching) and must have the specific intent to kill Israeli (Targeted Israel). The depraved indifference of the Palestinians focuses on the risk to Israeli life created by the Palestinian’s conduct, NOT the casualties actually resulting (numbers are not that important --- the numbers go to "magnitude"). It is the wanton character of the Palestinian, so deficient in a moral sense of concern, so lacking in regard for the life or lives of others, that it constitutes an act that is imminently dangerous and presented a very high risk of death AND an unreasonable threat to the safety and security of the citizens of Israel and the Sovereignty of the State. If you want to know who the Palestinians are, well here it is in a demonstrated form.

One last POINT: In 2005, the IDF began a withdrawal from the Gaza Strip in which the disengagement was completed in September of that year. What did it prove. It proves that the Palestinians cannot be trusted. In 2005 the Palestinians launched over 400 rocket into Israel. After the disengagement, the Palestinians more than doubled the launch effort. (Over the last 15 years, over 15,000 launches were made into Israel.)

NOTE: We have begun to take about the more conventional terrorist approach of Kidnap and Murder. Nor have we talked about the intentional attempts by Palestinian Leaders to incite violence. ​

Most Respectfully,
R

End the occupation and you won't get rockets.​

Where in all that did you address the point?

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, I cut and trimmed it for you.

(COMMENT)
One last POINT: In 2005, the IDF began a withdrawal from the Gaza Strip in which the disengagement was completed in September of that year. What did it prove. It proves that the Palestinians cannot be trusted. In 2005 the Palestinians launched over 400 rocket into Israel. After the disengagement, the Palestinians more than doubled the launch effort.

End the occupation and you won't get rockets.​

Where in all that did you address the point?

(COMMENT)

The Palestinians have already demonstrated that they cannot be trusted to "end the threat" if the occupation ends. That theory was battle tested with the Gaza Strip in 2005 and 2006.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[flacaltenn]

Moderation Message:

Can't really see the OP topic in this anymore.. Time to close...

 

[flacaltenn]

Moderation Message:

I closed the this thread because some members were close to getting warnings for going off topic.
Since -- I've received requests to reopen. This will be a good test to see who stays on the OP topic.
No whining about any warnings that might result..

Reopened..

 

[Roudy]

Conspiracy theories aren't going to help your failed arguments.

BTW, in the relevant first world, we don't accept Islamic terrorist acts of war as defending anything.

You can not call freedom fighter terrorist but invaders are terrorist.

ISIS and Al Queda also call their terrorists freedom or resistance fighters. To the rest of the world, however, they're Islamic terrorist animals, as are the Hamas fighters.

Link!

LOL! It wants a link that ISIS doesn't call it's fighters "terrorists". Terrorist groups like ISIS and Hamas are all about glamorizing terrorism. If you don't know this basic fact then you aren't living on the same planet.

Even Israel glamorizes its terrorism by calling it self defense.

You can't commit terrorism against Israelis and then complain when Israel drops the hammer on the terrorists. Like I said if you don't want civilian casualties to occur, stop attacking Israeli civilians and then complain about civilian casualties when the terrorists hide behind civilians.

 

[Hollie]

34 pages and still nothing to indicate that Israel targets Pal'istanian civilians.

 

[Humanity]

Israel, as the occupying power, has a legal responsibility to protect the civilians of occupied land, that includes territory that Israel controls....

Strange as that may seem, it does NOT give Israel the right to bomb civilians, no matter what their fabled 'objectives'....

Really, so you think Palestinian animals have a right to slaughter Isrseli civilians but Isrselis have a legal responsibility not to defend themselves according to how they see fit? Ha ha ha. Typical terrorist appeaser mindset.

English comprehension not your strong point is it roodboy!

Read my post and have another try...

I did. You talk about civilian casualties but fail to focus on the Palestinians who constantly target civilians. Do you think they have a legal right to target Israeli civilians like the ISIS savages do in the West? Oh but wait, Israel cannot respond. Ha ha ha. Good one.

You read it??!! Wow...

Shame you weren't able to process it and give a sensible answer based upon my post, rather choosing to throw out your usual, brainwashed zionut BS!

 

[Humanity]

34 pages and still nothing to indicate that Israel targets Pal'istanian civilians.

The Palestine people do not have a military... Thus, every death is a civilian death!

"The Palestinian people do not have a military, so the usual classification of civilian is not being used. Instead B'Tselem provides data on the number of Palestinians who did not participate in hostilities, a significantly more stringent qualification than the one used to identify Israeli civilians. We do not know how many of the Israelis listed as civilians participated in the hostilities. Many settlers who illegally have taken over parts of the West Bank (and used to live in parts of the Gaza Strip) are heavily armed and there have been numerous reports of their brutal attacks on their Palestinian neighbors."

Israelis and Palestinians Killed since 9/29/2000

 

[Hollie]

34 pages and still nothing to indicate that Israel targets Pal'istanian civilians.

The Palestine people do not have a military... Thus, every death is a civilian death!

"The Palestinian people do not have a military, so the usual classification of civilian is not being used. Instead B'Tselem provides data on the number of Palestinians who did not participate in hostilities, a significantly more stringent qualification than the one used to identify Israeli civilians. We do not know how many of the Israelis listed as civilians participated in the hostilities. Many settlers who illegally have taken over parts of the West Bank (and used to live in parts of the Gaza Strip) are heavily armed and there have been numerous reports of their brutal attacks on their Palestinian neighbors."

Israelis and Palestinians Killed since 9/29/2000

That's actually pretty silly as Hamas has a "military wing".

Pass that on to the folks at the internet tabloid "if Americans knew"

So, now 35 pages and still no indication that Israel targets civilians.

 

[P F Tinmore]

34 pages and still nothing to indicate that Israel targets Pal'istanian civilians.

The Palestine people do not have a military... Thus, every death is a civilian death!

"The Palestinian people do not have a military, so the usual classification of civilian is not being used. Instead B'Tselem provides data on the number of Palestinians who did not participate in hostilities, a significantly more stringent qualification than the one used to identify Israeli civilians. We do not know how many of the Israelis listed as civilians participated in the hostilities. Many settlers who illegally have taken over parts of the West Bank (and used to live in parts of the Gaza Strip) are heavily armed and there have been numerous reports of their brutal attacks on their Palestinian neighbors."

Israelis and Palestinians Killed since 9/29/2000

That's actually pretty silly as Hamas has a "military wing".

Pass that on to the folks at the internet tabloid "if Americans knew"

So, now 35 pages and still no indication that Israel targets civilians.

The vast majority of people Israel kills are civilians. They don't target civilians. This just happens because they are stupid.

IDF=Israeli Doofus Force.