Israel does not target civilians?

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Well sorry, but you're still consumed with conspiracy theories as a way to defend Islamic terrorism.
We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

I'll tell you what is a conspiracy theory, the notion Israel doesn't target civilians.
Neither you nor any of the other Islamic terrorist Pom Pom flailers have ever made a defendable case that Israel targets civilians.

Pal'istanian die as a result of the Hamas cowards you so admire committing acts of war from civilian areas.

This has been addressed so often and the facts of Islamic terrorists launching attacks from civilian areas well documented that your continued denial is just one more example of your need to believe in conspiracy theories as opposed to facts.

Poor you.
 
Native people attacking colonizing settlers cannot, by definition, be considered terrorism. Unfortunately, it is only after decades and centuries that this fact becomes apparent.

While I firmly believe that peaceful means to achieve freedom are preferable, the Vicious Israeli Jew Occupier (ViJO) is responsible for the armed struggle of the native people of Palestine, after all, they traveled to Palestine with the intent to colonize the land and displace the native people by dispossessing the native people of the land they owned. (The Christians and Muslims owned 95% of the land in Palestine prior to partition)

Native people anywhere, therefore, have every right to resist colonization.

Today, no one would call the attacks on the Europeans (military or civilian settlers) by the Native Americans, terrorism. Because, it was not terrorism it was resistance to colonization. Palestinian resistance is resistance to occupation. Geronimo was considered a savage terrorist and was hunted down by the U.S., today he is considered a hero of the native american resistance by most Americans, not just native Americans. Sitting Bull, Crazy Horse etc. are now considered resistance heroes their European contemporaries considered them dangerous terrorists because they resisted colonization and occupation of their land.

UN Resolutions enshrine the right of native people to resist colonization/occupation:

Resolution A/RES/33/24 of 29 November 1978:

“2. Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, particularly armed struggle;”

and Resolution A/RES/3246 (XXIX) of 29 November 1974, which specifically applies this right to the Palestinian people:

3. Reaffirms the legitimacy of the peoples’ struggle for liberation form colonial and foreign domination and alien subjugation by all available means, including armed struggle; …
7. Strongly condemns all Governments which do not recognize the right to self-determination and independence of peoples under colonial and foreign domination and alien subjugation, notably the peoples of Africa and the Palestinian people;
False analogies cannot, by definition, be taken as a legitimate excuse for acts of Islamic terrorism.
 
Well sorry, but you're still consumed with conspiracy theories as a way to defend Islamic terrorism.
We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

I'll tell you what is a conspiracy theory, the notion Israel doesn't target civilians.
The war on Gaza™ was israeli resistance to Islamic terrorist aggression.

"14 years of (islamic terrorist) rocket attacks". How fortunate that the Israeli defense forces act with restraint.
 
Billo_Really, Hollie, et al,

Oh Billo_Really, --- our friend "Hollie" is on target with her two commentaries.

The blockade was a requirement to prevent Pal'istanian islamic terrorist attacks. The Islamic retrogrades were committing acts of war. That caused Israel to respond. You seem to believe your Islamic retrograde heroes have an entitlement to acts of Islamic terrorism. Israel believes otherwise, hence the Islamic retrogrades are throttled.
The blockade was to punish Gazans for not voting for Israel's ***** (Fatah), in their elections.
BTW, defending your home from foreign aggression, is not terrorism.
Conspiracy theories aren't going to help your failed arguments.
BTW, in the relevant first worked, we don't accept Islamic terrorist acts of war as defending anything.
(COMMENT)

On the matter of terrorism as a means of defense, "Hollie" is correct! As UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon’s said: "Nothing can justify terrorismever. No grievance, no goal, no cause can excuse terrorist acts." When the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAPs) attempt, though deadly asymmetric means, to intimidate or coerce the Israeli civilian population as a strategy to bend Israeli National policy to the will of the Palestinian --- that is terrorism. To attack the civilian population to affect or influence the conduct of the Israeli government --- that is terrorism. Noting that terrorist attacks by means of bombs, explosives or other incendiary or lethal devices have become increasingly widespread, and stressing the need to supplement the existing legal instruments in order to address specifically the problem of terrorist attacks carried out by such means, is illegal (A/RES/51/210. Measures to eliminate international terrorism).

Remembering that: UN Security Council Resolution S/RES/1624 (2005)
Calls upon all States to adopt such measures as may be necessary and appropriate and in accordance with their obligations under international law to:

(a) Prohibit by law incitement to commit a terrorist act or acts;
(b) Prevent such conduct;
(c) Deny safe haven to any persons with respect to whom there is credible and relevant information giving serious reasons for considering that they have been guilty of such conduct;
Calls upon all States to cooperate, inter alia, to strengthen the security of their international borders, including by combating fraudulent travel documents and, to the extent attainable, by enhancing terrorist screening and passenger security procedures with a view to preventing those guilty of the conduct in paragraph 1 (a) from entering their territory;
Calls upon all States to continue international efforts to enhance dialogue and broaden understanding among civilizations, in an effort to prevent the indiscriminate targeting of different religions and cultures, and to take all measures as may be necessary and appropriate and in accordance with their obligations under international law to counter incitement of terrorist acts motivated by extremism and intolerance and to prevent the subversion of educational, cultural, and religious institutions by terrorists and their supporters;​
There is absolutely no legal basis for the use of terrorism to in the false justification you present.

On the matter of the blockade as a punishment "Gazans for not voting for Israel's ***** (Fatah), in their elections." This is entirely false. It was a propaganda effort by the HoAP to filter the truth and redirect the dialog in a different direction. Between 2005 (the Unilateral Withdrawal from Gaza) and 2009 (establishment of the Blockade); the Islamic Resistance Movement launched some 7300 missiles and rockets into Israel. After the Blockade is instituted, in concert with strengthened border controls (per UNSC Res 1624), the number of missile and rocket attacks dramatically dropped.


Our friend "Hollie's" observations were on track. The institution of the Blockade had nothing what-so-ever to do with political punishment. Yes, there was grave disappointment that the Palestinian People voted in a Terrorist organization into a leadership role. After January 2006, there was a sharp increase in rocket and missile attacks; doubling from the 2005 level to the 2006. The number of launches again doubled in 2007 by the 2006 levels. And as you can see from the chart, there was a significant increase in launches in the year 2008 over the year 2007. BUT, in January 2009, the Blockade is activated and the number of launches decrease by over 75%.

Of course the Blockade was not a perfect solution, but it was fairly effective as a single countermeasure to the infiltration of weapons; complementing well other security countermeasures that were instituted that year.

Most Respectfully,
R
Yes, there was grave disappointment that the Palestinian People voted in a Terrorist organization into a leadership role.​

They aren't terrorists in Palestine where they were elected. They are only terrorists to the third grade name callers in the west.
 
Billo_Really, Hollie, et al,

Oh Billo_Really, --- our friend "Hollie" is on target with her two commentaries.

The blockade was a requirement to prevent Pal'istanian islamic terrorist attacks. The Islamic retrogrades were committing acts of war. That caused Israel to respond. You seem to believe your Islamic retrograde heroes have an entitlement to acts of Islamic terrorism. Israel believes otherwise, hence the Islamic retrogrades are throttled.
The blockade was to punish Gazans for not voting for Israel's ***** (Fatah), in their elections.
BTW, defending your home from foreign aggression, is not terrorism.
Conspiracy theories aren't going to help your failed arguments.
BTW, in the relevant first worked, we don't accept Islamic terrorist acts of war as defending anything.
(COMMENT)

On the matter of terrorism as a means of defense, "Hollie" is correct! As UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon’s said: "Nothing can justify terrorismever. No grievance, no goal, no cause can excuse terrorist acts." When the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAPs) attempt, though deadly asymmetric means, to intimidate or coerce the Israeli civilian population as a strategy to bend Israeli National policy to the will of the Palestinian --- that is terrorism. To attack the civilian population to affect or influence the conduct of the Israeli government --- that is terrorism. Noting that terrorist attacks by means of bombs, explosives or other incendiary or lethal devices have become increasingly widespread, and stressing the need to supplement the existing legal instruments in order to address specifically the problem of terrorist attacks carried out by such means, is illegal (A/RES/51/210. Measures to eliminate international terrorism).

Remembering that: UN Security Council Resolution S/RES/1624 (2005)
Calls upon all States to adopt such measures as may be necessary and appropriate and in accordance with their obligations under international law to:

(a) Prohibit by law incitement to commit a terrorist act or acts;
(b) Prevent such conduct;
(c) Deny safe haven to any persons with respect to whom there is credible and relevant information giving serious reasons for considering that they have been guilty of such conduct;
Calls upon all States to cooperate, inter alia, to strengthen the security of their international borders, including by combating fraudulent travel documents and, to the extent attainable, by enhancing terrorist screening and passenger security procedures with a view to preventing those guilty of the conduct in paragraph 1 (a) from entering their territory;
Calls upon all States to continue international efforts to enhance dialogue and broaden understanding among civilizations, in an effort to prevent the indiscriminate targeting of different religions and cultures, and to take all measures as may be necessary and appropriate and in accordance with their obligations under international law to counter incitement of terrorist acts motivated by extremism and intolerance and to prevent the subversion of educational, cultural, and religious institutions by terrorists and their supporters;​
There is absolutely no legal basis for the use of terrorism to in the false justification you present.

On the matter of the blockade as a punishment "Gazans for not voting for Israel's ***** (Fatah), in their elections." This is entirely false. It was a propaganda effort by the HoAP to filter the truth and redirect the dialog in a different direction. Between 2005 (the Unilateral Withdrawal from Gaza) and 2009 (establishment of the Blockade); the Islamic Resistance Movement launched some 7300 missiles and rockets into Israel. After the Blockade is instituted, in concert with strengthened border controls (per UNSC Res 1624), the number of missile and rocket attacks dramatically dropped.


Our friend "Hollie's" observations were on track. The institution of the Blockade had nothing what-so-ever to do with political punishment. Yes, there was grave disappointment that the Palestinian People voted in a Terrorist organization into a leadership role. After January 2006, there was a sharp increase in rocket and missile attacks; doubling from the 2005 level to the 2006. The number of launches again doubled in 2007 by the 2006 levels. And as you can see from the chart, there was a significant increase in launches in the year 2008 over the year 2007. BUT, in January 2009, the Blockade is activated and the number of launches decrease by over 75%.

Of course the Blockade was not a perfect solution, but it was fairly effective as a single countermeasure to the infiltration of weapons; complementing well other security countermeasures that were instituted that year.

Most Respectfully,
R
After January 2006, there was a sharp increase in rocket and missile attacks; doubling from the 2005 level to the 2006.​

What about all of the attacks on the Palestinians?

Oh, that's right, your favorite Israeli propaganda sources never mention those.
 
Well sorry, but you're still consumed with conspiracy theories as a way to defend Islamic terrorism.
We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

I'll tell you what is a conspiracy theory, the notion Israel doesn't target civilians.
The war on Gaza™ was israeli resistance to Islamic terrorist aggression.

"14 years of (islamic terrorist) rocket attacks". How fortunate that the Israeli defense forces act with restraint.
Pffft.

Not!
 
Israel, as the occupying power, has a legal responsibility to protect the civilians of occupied land, that includes territory that Israel controls....

Strange as that may seem, it does NOT give Israel the right to bomb civilians, no matter what their fabled 'objectives'....
 
Native people attacking colonizing settlers cannot, by definition, be considered terrorism. Unfortunately, it is only after decades and centuries that this fact becomes apparent.

While I firmly believe that peaceful means to achieve freedom are preferable, the Vicious Israeli Jew Occupier (ViJO) is responsible for the armed struggle of the native people of Palestine, after all, they traveled to Palestine with the intent to colonize the land and displace the native people by dispossessing the native people of the land they owned. (The Christians and Muslims owned 95% of the land in Palestine prior to partition)

Native people anywhere, therefore, have every right to resist colonization.

Today, no one would call the attacks on the Europeans (military or civilian settlers) by the Native Americans, terrorism. Because, it was not terrorism it was resistance to colonization. Palestinian resistance is resistance to occupation. Geronimo was considered a savage terrorist and was hunted down by the U.S., today he is considered a hero of the native american resistance by most Americans, not just native Americans. Sitting Bull, Crazy Horse etc. are now considered resistance heroes their European contemporaries considered them dangerous terrorists because they resisted colonization and occupation of their land.

UN Resolutions enshrine the right of native people to resist colonization/occupation:

Resolution A/RES/33/24 of 29 November 1978:

“2. Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, particularly armed struggle;”

and Resolution A/RES/3246 (XXIX) of 29 November 1974, which specifically applies this right to the Palestinian people:

3. Reaffirms the legitimacy of the peoples’ struggle for liberation form colonial and foreign domination and alien subjugation by all available means, including armed struggle; …
7. Strongly condemns all Governments which do not recognize the right to self-determination and independence of peoples under colonial and foreign domination and alien subjugation, notably the peoples of Africa and the Palestinian people;
Don't confuse the Israeli propagandists with facts.

Israel is a fact free zone.
 
Well sorry, but you're still consumed with conspiracy theories as a way to defend Islamic terrorism.
We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

I'll tell you what is a conspiracy theory, the notion Israel doesn't target civilians.
The war on Gaza™ was israeli resistance to Islamic terrorist aggression.

"14 years of (islamic terrorist) rocket attacks". How fortunate that the Israeli defense forces act with restraint.
Pffft.

Not!
I was convinced you would dodge and sidestep addressing the facts. Why is it that rocket attacks aimed at israel increased after the occupation of Gaza by Hamas?

I understand that you're in denial of the connection between Islamic terrorist attacks by Hamas and the inevitable response by Israel to stop those attacks, but why would you think that others would share your denials?
 
Well sorry, but you're still consumed with conspiracy theories as a way to defend Islamic terrorism.
We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

I'll tell you what is a conspiracy theory, the notion Israel doesn't target civilians.
The war on Gaza™ was israeli resistance to Islamic terrorist aggression.

"14 years of (islamic terrorist) rocket attacks". How fortunate that the Israeli defense forces act with restraint.
Pffft.

Not!
I was convinced you would dodge and sidestep addressing the facts. Why is it that rocket attacks aimed at israel increased after the occupation of Gaza by Hamas?

I understand that you're in denial of the connection between Islamic terrorist attacks by Hamas and the inevitable response by Israel to stop those attacks, but why would you think that others would share your denials?
False question. Hamas does not occupy Gaza.
 
Really? Title poses a question which happens to be true about Palestinians.
This is a perfect example of the psychotic mind of an Israeli ass-kisser.

No where in the title of this thread, do you see the word..........Palestinian.

And the "question" that is posed, is about Israel deliberately targeting people who take no part in hostilities.

As I said the title poses a question which is actually very true about Palestinians.

Notice how not one of you denies or condemns that Palestinians are constantly targeting innocent Israeli civilians, while having hissy fits over Israel's right to defend themselves against these terrorist animals.
 
The blockade was a requirement to prevent Pal'istanian islamic terrorist attacks. The Islamic retrogrades were committing acts of war. That caused Israel to respond. You seem to believe your Islamic retrograde heroes have an entitlement to acts of Islamic terrorism. Israel believes otherwise, hence the Islamic retrogrades are throttled.
The blockade was to punish Gazans for not voting for Israel's ***** (Fatah), in their elections.

BTW, defending your home from foreign aggression, is not terrorism.
Conspiracy theories aren't going to help your failed arguments.

BTW, in the relevant first world, we don't accept Islamic terrorist acts of war as defending anything.
You can not call freedom fighter terrorist but invaders are terrorist.

ISIS and Al Queda also call their terrorists freedom or resistance fighters. To the rest of the world, however, they're Islamic terrorist animals, as are the Hamas fighters.
 
The blockade was a requirement to prevent Pal'istanian islamic terrorist attacks. The Islamic retrogrades were committing acts of war. That caused Israel to respond. You seem to believe your Islamic retrograde heroes have an entitlement to acts of Islamic terrorism. Israel believes otherwise, hence the Islamic retrogrades are throttled.
The blockade was to punish Gazans for not voting for Israel's ***** (Fatah), in their elections.

BTW, defending your home from foreign aggression, is not terrorism.
Conspiracy theories aren't going to help your failed arguments.

BTW, in the relevant first world, we don't accept Islamic terrorist acts of war as defending anything.
You can not call freedom fighter terrorist but invaders are terrorist.

ISIS and Al Queda also call their terrorists freedom or resistance fighters. To the rest of the world, however, they're Islamic terrorist animals, as are the Hamas fighters.

Link!
 
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We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

I'll tell you what is a conspiracy theory, the notion Israel doesn't target civilians.
The war on Gaza™ was israeli resistance to Islamic terrorist aggression.

"14 years of (islamic terrorist) rocket attacks". How fortunate that the Israeli defense forces act with restraint.
Pffft.

Not!
I was convinced you would dodge and sidestep addressing the facts. Why is it that rocket attacks aimed at israel increased after the occupation of Gaza by Hamas?

I understand that you're in denial of the connection between Islamic terrorist attacks by Hamas and the inevitable response by Israel to stop those attacks, but why would you think that others would share your denials?
False question. Hamas does not occupy Gaza.
That was a poor attempt at sidestepping and evasion. Rocket fire aimed at Israel from the Islamic terrorists occupying Gaza increased dramatically after the Islamist occupation.

Your denials don't change the fact of Islamist terrorist attacks and the expected retaliation from Israel to defend its citizens.

Dead Pal'istanians make for happy-fun propaganda oozing from the islamic terrorist cabal but islamist terrorism is not an entitlement. It has consequences.
 
Conspiracy theories aren't going to help your failed arguments.
It's not a conspiracy theory, it's part of the historical record. The reason Israel considers Hamas public enemy no.1, is because Hamas won't kiss their ass and can't be bought, like Fatah did.



BTW, in the relevant first world, we don't accept Islamic terrorist acts of war as defending anything.
It's not a terrorist act and it's not an act of war; the act of war, has been the occupation the Israeli's have maintained since the '67 war. The Pals have every legal right in the world to resist.

BTW, they target more military assets than the Israeli's do.

So you shouldn't be complaining about civilian casualties when Palestinians make it their business to target Israeli civilians, only.
 
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The blockade was a requirement to prevent Pal'istanian islamic terrorist attacks. The Islamic retrogrades were committing acts of war. That caused Israel to respond. You seem to believe your Islamic retrograde heroes have an entitlement to acts of Islamic terrorism. Israel believes otherwise, hence the Islamic retrogrades are throttled.
The blockade was to punish Gazans for not voting for Israel's ***** (Fatah), in their elections.

BTW, defending your home from foreign aggression, is not terrorism.
Conspiracy theories aren't going to help your failed arguments.

BTW, in the relevant first world, we don't accept Islamic terrorist acts of war as defending anything.
You can not call freedom fighter terrorist but invaders are terrorist.

ISIS and Al Queda also call their terrorists freedom or resistance fighters. To the rest of the world, however, they're Islamic terrorist animals, as are the Hamas fighters.

Link!

LOL! It wants a link that ISIS doesn't call it's fighters "terrorists". Terrorist groups like ISIS and Hamas are all about glamorizing terrorism. If you don't know this basic fact then you aren't living on the same planet.
 
Well sorry, but you're still consumed with conspiracy theories as a way to defend Islamic terrorism.
We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

I'll tell you what is a conspiracy theory, the notion Israel doesn't target civilians.
It doesn't, it targets terrorists, their infrastructure, their homes, and their places of business. Do civilians die, sure, as they do when civilians die in US actions, but are they the target? No. Do Palestinians target Isrseli civilians? Hell yes! Everytime. Your argument is dead on arrival.
 
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