ISIS burned a man alive!! Who was that psychopath who burned people alive at Waco?

[RetiredGySgt]

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When one don't cooperate with the police, onecan expect to be shot, like Michael Brown in Ferguson, right? Especially when one is a child rapist, like David Koresh.

Child rapist?? HAHAHA. BTW - was Koresh charging the police when he was burned alive? Was he doing anything threatening.? THINK, you miserable America-hating wretch.

You're absolutely correct: he wasn't charging them.

He was shooting them.

Except there is ZERO evidence that anyone at the compound ever shot anyone. The initial raid was filmed and before it was removed that film showed ATF agents crawl through a window into the second story of the compound followed almost immediately by an ATF agent on the roof firing automatic fire into the same window. Of all the cars in the parking lot not a single round was in them from the compound NOT one. The door to the compound survived the fire and also showed no weapon fire from the compound, it was "lost" by the FBI.

And there is not one single claim that anyone at the compound fired on the final assault either.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

When one don't cooperate with the police, one can expect to be shot, like Michael Brown in Ferguson, right? Especially when one is a child rapist, like David Koresh.

This isn't russia, asshole....and Koresh was no "child rapist" nor was he making illegal weapons...this is all about the stalinist Reno and the pervert Scum Willy.... what the country may have forgotten about Ruby Ridge and last year in Nevada....the federal government under a Rat administration will murder you for no reason whatsoever if you're in their way.

Actually, it was about an investigation into child sexual abuse that culminated in a raid wherein Branch Davidians shot and killed federal agents which is what started the siege.

Wrong the raid started because of ATF and lies told about the Compound and their weapons. The supposed child sex thing was fabricated by the FBI a month after the raid failed.

It wasn't just child sex abuse, it was physical abuse. And based on Koresh's history from a previous gun-related charge, the ATF had good reason to serve a warrant for David Koresh's arrest and a search of the premises. While approaching the compound, the agents were fired upon, and four were killed. So, when the authorities took the action they did, whether it was the best decision in hindsight, the officials in charge thought it was warranted and appropriate at the time.

Much of this is supported here, a Christian Website:

The Branch Davidians - Christian Research Institute

NOT true, the 4 agents were killed inside the building there is ZERO evidence anyone fired from the compound on the ATF and the film that was pulled showed the ATF firing into the window the 4 agents entered almost immediately after they entered.

 

[J.E.D]

LOL Clinton did not burn anyone. He wouldn't have the balls to show up personally for a fist fight.

Of course that's true. But he gave the order. He should be hung for waco.

You should be hung for being a fucking idiot

 

[Coloradomtnman]

When one don't cooperate with the police, one can expect to be shot, like Michael Brown in Ferguson, right? Especially when one is a child rapist, like David Koresh.

This isn't russia, asshole....and Koresh was no "child rapist" nor was he making illegal weapons...this is all about the stalinist Reno and the pervert Scum Willy.... what the country may have forgotten about Ruby Ridge and last year in Nevada....the federal government under a Rat administration will murder you for no reason whatsoever if you're in their way.

Actually, it was about an investigation into child sexual abuse that culminated in a raid wherein Branch Davidians shot and killed federal agents which is what started the siege.

Wrong the raid started because of ATF and lies told about the Compound and their weapons. The supposed child sex thing was fabricated by the FBI a month after the raid failed.

It wasn't just child sex abuse, it was physical abuse. And based on Koresh's history from a previous gun-related charge, the ATF had good reason to serve a warrant for David Koresh's arrest and a search of the premises. While approaching the compound, the agents were fired upon, and four were killed. So, when the authorities took the action they did, whether it was the best decision in hindsight, the officials in charge thought it was warranted and appropriate at the time.

Much of this is supported here, a Christian Website:

The Branch Davidians - Christian Research Institute

NOT true, the 4 agents were killed inside the building there is ZERO evidence anyone fired from the compound on the ATF and the film that was pulled showed the ATF firing into the window the 4 agents entered almost immediately after they entered.

Yeah, and 9/11 was an inside job...

 

[High_Gravity]

So David Koresh was just an innocent man minding his own business? ok got it.

 

[BullKurtz]

No wonder Americans are disgusted with conservatives.

Uh, remember November 4th, chicken neck?

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Of course that's true. But he gave the order. He should be hung for waco.

You should be hung for being a fucking idiot

The board notes that all you have is namecalling. Thanks for admitting i'm right.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Yeah, and 9/11 was an inside job...

Thanks for confirming you are a paid govt shill. Everyone knows 911 was an inside job.

 

[BullKurtz]

So David Koresh was just an innocent man minding his own business? ok got it.

Yeah he was....It's clear you bought the bullshit and never looked into what really went down there.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

So David Koresh was just an innocent man minding his own business? ok got it.

Yeah - that's pretty much it. But they were conservatives and gun owners and thus militia types so clinton gave the order "send in the tanks and burn them alive".

 

[ShootSpeeders]

No wonder Americans are disgusted with conservatives.

Uh, remember November 4th, chicken neck?

It's obvious repubs are not conservatives. Voters thought they were on nov 4, but no more.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

When one don't cooperate with the police, one can expect to be shot, like Michael Brown in Ferguson, right? Especially when one is a child rapist, like David Koresh.

This isn't russia, asshole....and Koresh was no "child rapist" nor was he making illegal weapons...this is all about the stalinist Reno and the pervert Scum Willy.... what the country may have forgotten about Ruby Ridge and last year in Nevada....the federal government under a Rat administration will murder you for no reason whatsoever if you're in their way.

Actually, it was about an investigation into child sexual abuse that culminated in a raid wherein Branch Davidians shot and killed federal agents which is what started the siege.

No. I remember clearly and all the reports at the time gave the reason for the raid as being for illegally modifying weapons. The child rape allegations were all later revelations. If you can prove otherwise, post a link.

Department Of Treasury Memorandum Waco - The Inside Story FRONTLINE PBS

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms investigated David Koresh for conduct involving: the illegal manufacture of machine guns and the illegal manufacture and possession of destructive devices. The FBI report provides evidence that the Davidians' arsenal did indeed include weapons unlawfully manufactured. The weapons listed include semiautomatic firearms illegally modified to fire in full automatic mode, as well as grenades and silencers. All of these weapons were unlawfully possessed.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

So David Koresh was just an innocent man minding his own business? ok got it.

The ATF had no grounds for raiding his compound. there were no illegal firearms there, no fully automatic weapons and no one at the compound had illegally purchased any firearms. So yes he was innocent of any of the supposed reasons for the raid.

 

[fmdog44]

David Koresh?

Get help please. You're a psychopath too.

I agree it was the military-like assault on the compound that caused that fire, but it is a little bit possible the assault would not have done it and Koresh started the whole thing.

In this country if a citizen "starts something" the law is not supposed to approach and kill. Does the word negotiate or compromise ring a bell? It was in fact an all out attack on the personal liberties and rights of all Americans. Do not for one second believe that a sincere challenge/threat to this government will not be met with unlimited deadly force. Any opposition will ultimately be branded as terrorist or traitors. Recall when the Tea Party started how they were branded as maniacs and terror groups even though most of them were over 60!!!!! Janet Reno hang in hell you whore.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

While I was very active in that cult, the president of Church Universal & Triumphant, Ed Francis was arrested for purchasing legal firearms under a false name. At the time, I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt and felt he was just trying to avoid publicity, since the church was always being attacked in the media.

Elizabeth Clare Prophet Wikis The Full Wiki

Guns

Rumors of gun purchases dogged Prophet's Church for 30 years. Some church members had privately purchased a large cache of weapons and ammunition in 1973-1974 during the first survival phase in Colorado and Idaho. These included over 100 AR-15 assault rifles, the civilian version of the M-16. Though the goal of acquiring the weapons privately was to avoid scrutiny, the purchases occurred with full knowledge of the Summit Lighthouse board of directors. It was part of an organizational plan called "Operation Christ Command" (OCC) which included the stockpiling of dried food, precious metals, and camping gear. In the early 1970s, staff at TSL's Colorado Springs headquarters were required to take a vow of poverty. So any private funds used for gun purchases would have otherwise been turned over to the church—rendering the "private funds" vs. "church funds" distinction moot. Still, the existence of these guns was discussed and denied by Church leaders during their appearance on the Oprah Winfrey Show in 1989.

That same year, in their plan to protect the bomb shelters, Prophet's then-husband Edward Francis, and staff member Vernon Hamilton purchased more high-powered weapons in Washington state. They registered their purchases under the stolen identity of deceased San Francisco attorney Malcolm Pace, leading to Hamilton's arrest.[20] The $100,000 arsenal seized by ATF agents included seven Barrett .50 caliber semi-automatic sniper rifles, and a number of smaller .308 and .223 military-style firearms. The guns were legal to own, but in trying to protect the Church's image by hiding their identities, Francis and Hamilton opened themselves up to criminal prosecution. Hamilton served four months, and Francis also spent a month in jail and several months under house arrest. Even as late as 1999, a U.S. House of Representatives report mentioned the incident, citing CUT as an example of a "Doomsday Religious Cult".[21]

At the time, Elizabeth Clare Prophet disavowed any knowledge of the two men's plans. But according to the Billings Gazette, her daughter Erin Prophet contradicted this claim in her 2008 book Prophet's Daughter [22]

 

[Synthaholic]

No wonder Americans are disgusted with conservatives.

Uh, remember November 4th, chicken neck?

When all the Red states re-hired Red Senators? Yup.

The Blue Senators they replaced were only there riding Obama's enormous coattails in 2008.

2008 + 6 year term = 2014

Notice that Blue Senators kept their seats in Blue States. Imagine that!

 

[Synthaholic]

So David Koresh was just an innocent man minding his own business? ok got it.

The ATF had no grounds for raiding his compound. there were no illegal firearms there, no fully automatic weapons and no one at the compound had illegally purchased any firearms. So yes he was innocent of any of the supposed reasons for the raid.

How do we know that without confirmation from law enforcement?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

So David Koresh was just an innocent man minding his own business? ok got it.

The ATF had no grounds for raiding his compound. there were no illegal firearms there, no fully automatic weapons and no one at the compound had illegally purchased any firearms. So yes he was innocent of any of the supposed reasons for the raid.

How do we know that without confirmation from law enforcement?

If they had seized full automatic weapons they would have displayed them and provided the proof they had them. All the fed did is claim that was what happened never any evidence it was true. And again NO ONE from the compound ever fired on a single person outside the compound.

 

[Synthaholic]

In this country if a citizen "starts something" the law is not supposed to approach and kill. Does the word negotiate or compromise ring a bell?

Yup!

 

[Synthaholic]

Recall when the Tea Party started how they were branded as maniacs and terror groups even though most of them were over 60!!!!!

Never terrorist groups. Don't lie.

Maniacs is a bit strong. I don't remember anyone calling them maniacs. Maybe you can find some examples from 2009-2010?

I do think they were called:

• ignorant about how government works
• simplistic in their solutions
• shills for corporate interests - mainly the Koch brothers
• an AstroTurfed movement, created by FOXNEWS, Dick Armey, Koch, Rick Santelli, etc.
• naive
• gullible
• political dumbasses

But not maniacs and terrorists.