Is There Scientific Evidence Supporting the Floor of Noah?

Are secular scientists prone to exaggeration in support of accepted theories?

  • Yes, at least on occasion.

    Votes: 5 83.3%
  • No, never. They are highly respected and above tweaking data... They are above suspicion.

    Votes: 1 16.7%

  • Total voters
    6
That is your answer? A T-Rex ran them all away? lol

He didn't have to run them away. People would stay away from it. Even among the smaller ones were meat eaters.

The only reason you won't understand this is because fake evolution told you that they were hundreds of millions years old and became extinct. It's part of evo history which isn't written down anywhere.

People didn't stay away from T-Rex. He was long extinct before people came along.

And prey always run from predators (or hide). That has no bearing on why there are no higher animals in the fossils on top of Mt Everest.


I am sure you have proof of that???


cause there is a mountain of proof you are wrong,,,

A mountain of proof that man and T-Rex existed at the same time? No.

Bull puckey. Here is some historical evidence.

Dragon-on-White-300x215.jpg


'“The dragons of legend are strangely like actual creatures that have lived in the past. They are much like the great reptiles which inhabited the earth long before man is supposed to have appeared on earth. Dragons were generally evil and destructive. Every country had them in its mythology.” (Knox, Wilson, “Dragon,” The World Book Encyclopedia, vol. 5, 1973, p. 265.) The article on dragons in the Encyclopaedia Britannica (1949 edition) noted that dinosaurs were “astonishingly dragonlike,” even though its author assumed that those ancients who believed in dragons did so “without the slightest knowledge” of dinosaurs. The truth is that the fathers of modern paleontology used the terms “dinosaur” and “dragon” interchangeably for quite some time."'

The creature looks like a T-Rex. Prior to the 1850s, I would bet that secular scientists and people believed that dinosaurs weren't extinct and lived with humans. What you believe is "faith-based" science after. Religion and science are two sides of the same coin. They could both be natural philosophies today.
 
That is your answer? A T-Rex ran them all away? lol

He didn't have to run them away. People would stay away from it. Even among the smaller ones were meat eaters.

The only reason you won't understand this is because fake evolution told you that they were hundreds of millions years old and became extinct. It's part of evo history which isn't written down anywhere.

People didn't stay away from T-Rex. He was long extinct before people came along.

And prey always run from predators (or hide). That has no bearing on why there are no higher animals in the fossils on top of Mt Everest.


I am sure you have proof of that???


cause there is a mountain of proof you are wrong,,,

A mountain of proof that man and T-Rex existed at the same time? No.


for man and dinosaur the answer is yes,,,
its just that your religion requires you to ignore it or be attacked for blasphemy,,,

Do you have a link to these "mountains of evidence"?
 
That is your answer? A T-Rex ran them all away? lol

He didn't have to run them away. People would stay away from it. Even among the smaller ones were meat eaters.

The only reason you won't understand this is because fake evolution told you that they were hundreds of millions years old and became extinct. It's part of evo history which isn't written down anywhere.

People didn't stay away from T-Rex. He was long extinct before people came along.

And prey always run from predators (or hide). That has no bearing on why there are no higher animals in the fossils on top of Mt Everest.


I am sure you have proof of that???


cause there is a mountain of proof you are wrong,,,

A mountain of proof that man and T-Rex existed at the same time? No.

Bull puckey. Here is some historical evidence.

Dragon-on-White-300x215.jpg


'“The dragons of legend are strangely like actual creatures that have lived in the past. They are much like the great reptiles which inhabited the earth long before man is supposed to have appeared on earth. Dragons were generally evil and destructive. Every country had them in its mythology.” (Knox, Wilson, “Dragon,” The World Book Encyclopedia, vol. 5, 1973, p. 265.) The article on dragons in the Encyclopaedia Britannica (1949 edition) noted that dinosaurs were “astonishingly dragonlike,” even though its author assumed that those ancients who believed in dragons did so “without the slightest knowledge” of dinosaurs. The truth is that the fathers of modern paleontology used the terms “dinosaur” and “dragon” interchangeably for quite some time."'

The creature looks like a T-Rex. Prior to the 1850s, I would bet that secular scientists and people believed that dinosaurs weren't extinct and lived with humans. What you believe is "faith-based" science after. Religion and science are two sides of the same coin. They could both be natural philosophies today.

It’s hilarious to watch as you utterly contradict yourself from thread to thread.

If, as per your nonsense claim, dinosaurs and humans inhabited the planet at the same time, renderings of dragons would be identical to T-Rex and renderings of other dinosaurs.

Fortunately, science has progressed since 1850. What a shame we can’t say the thing toward religious extremists.

Your “betting” on things you don’t understand is a fool’s errand.
 
Do you have a link to these "mountains of evidence"?

One is the discovery of soft tissue in dinosaur bones.

Another is,
"In 1967 Robert L. Liscomb, a petroleum geologist working for Shell Oil Company, discovered well-preserved bones in Alaska along the Colville River. As the bones were fresh, not permineralized, he assumed that these were recently deposited, perhaps belonging to a mammoth or bison. Twenty years later scientists recognized the bones as belonging to the duck-billed dinosaur Edmontosaurus. Other bones found in this deposit belong to horned dinosaurs, and various carnivorous dinosaurs (including a pygmy Tyrannosaurus).

An article on Liscomb’s bones states: “The bones are stained a dark red brown but otherwise display little permineralization, crushing, or distortion.” (Davies, Kylie L., “Duckbill Dinosaurs (Hadrosauridae, Ornithisichia) from the North Slope of Alaska,” Journal of Paleontology 61, 1987, pp. 198-200.) Other researchers have found similar frozen dinosaur bones. For example, in 1987, while working with scientists from Memorial University on Bylot Island, just east of the northern tip of Baffin Island, a young Canadian Eskimo picked up such a bone fragment. It was identified within days as part of the lower jaw of a duck-billed dinosaur. (Helder, Margaret, “Fresh Dinosaur Bones Found,” Creation Ex Nihilo 14, 1992, p. 16.) In 2015 an article was published entitled “A New Arctic Hadrosaurid from the Prince Creek Formation.” It states: “The hadrosaurid remains are almost entirely disarticulated, show little evidence of weathering, predation, or trampling, and are typically uncrushed and unpermineralized” (Hirotsugu Mori, et. al., Acta Palaeontologica Polonica, Sept. 22, 2015, p. 3.).

While freezing biological material like collagen obviously inhibits decay and helps preserve structure (from your left over turkey dinner to reptile bones) there are limits to how long it can be preserved. Is it reasonable to expect frozen bones to remain in this pristine condition for 60 million years?"

Dinosaur bones have be radiocarbon dated!

"Carbon 14 Dating of Dinosaur Bones
Carbon 14 (C-14) dating is used to establish the age of skeletons, fossils, and other items composed of material that was once alive. Very precise analysis from modern mass spectrometers can establish the date the living material in the sample stopped taking in carbon from the environment (the point of death). Because C-14 has such a short half-life (radioactively decaying into Nitrogen 14), all detectable C-14 should have disappeared well before 100,000 years. But careful analysis by researchers has substantiated the presence of Carbon 14 in dinosaur bones. Critics suggested that the samples became contaminated with modern Carbon 14. However, Carboniferous coal was carefully extracted from deep within mines (far below the layers containing dinosaur remains) and fully sealed till lab analysis. It was found to still contain Carbon 14! (Baumgardner, et. al., “Measurable 14C in Fossilized Organic Materials,” Fifth ICC Paper, August 2003.)

In 2012, researchers analyzed multiple dinosaur bone samples from Texas, Alaska, Colorado, and Montana. C-14 dating revealed that they are less than 39,000 years old. These remarkable findings were presented by the German physicist Dr. Thomas Seiler at a conference sponsored by the American Geophysical Union (AGU) and the Asia Oceania Geosciences Society (AOGS) in Singapore. But apparently this evidence was unacceptable to influential evolutionists who subsequently found out about it. The abstract was removed from the conference website by two chairmen because they could not accept the findings. Unwilling to challenge the data openly, they erased the report from public view without a word to the authors or even to the AOGS officers!"

Evolution is fake science or else their scientists will not hide the truthful evidence.
 
He didn't have to run them away. People would stay away from it. Even among the smaller ones were meat eaters.

The only reason you won't understand this is because fake evolution told you that they were hundreds of millions years old and became extinct. It's part of evo history which isn't written down anywhere.

People didn't stay away from T-Rex. He was long extinct before people came along.

And prey always run from predators (or hide). That has no bearing on why there are no higher animals in the fossils on top of Mt Everest.


I am sure you have proof of that???


cause there is a mountain of proof you are wrong,,,

A mountain of proof that man and T-Rex existed at the same time? No.


for man and dinosaur the answer is yes,,,
its just that your religion requires you to ignore it or be attacked for blasphemy,,,

Do you have a link to these "mountains of evidence"?


I have provided them several times,,,

if you did nothing but ignore them then why would you care now,,,
 
People didn't stay away from T-Rex. He was long extinct before people came along.

And prey always run from predators (or hide). That has no bearing on why there are no higher animals in the fossils on top of Mt Everest.


I am sure you have proof of that???


cause there is a mountain of proof you are wrong,,,

A mountain of proof that man and T-Rex existed at the same time? No.


for man and dinosaur the answer is yes,,,
its just that your religion requires you to ignore it or be attacked for blasphemy,,,

Do you have a link to these "mountains of evidence"?


I have provided them several times,,,

if you did nothing but ignore them then why would you care now,,,

You are correct. Any website that claims mankind and T-Rex existed at the same time is bullshit.

If you want to believe that the entire scientific community is in on some conspiracy, and a handful of plucky evangelists are out to save us from their lies, by all means do so. It doesn't change the fact that T-Rex and man never co-existed.
 
I am sure you have proof of that???


cause there is a mountain of proof you are wrong,,,

A mountain of proof that man and T-Rex existed at the same time? No.


for man and dinosaur the answer is yes,,,
its just that your religion requires you to ignore it or be attacked for blasphemy,,,

Do you have a link to these "mountains of evidence"?


I have provided them several times,,,

if you did nothing but ignore them then why would you care now,,,

You are correct. Any website that claims mankind and T-Rex existed at the same time is bullshit.

If you want to believe that the entire scientific community is in on some conspiracy, and a handful of plucky evangelists are out to save us from their lies, by all means do so. It doesn't change the fact that T-Rex and man never co-existed.


I'm talking physical evidence not opinion like evo is based on,,,

and in fact you have seen them but chose to question if the man had legal rights to have such evidence and refused to talk about the evidence itself,,,
 
A mountain of proof that man and T-Rex existed at the same time? No.


for man and dinosaur the answer is yes,,,
its just that your religion requires you to ignore it or be attacked for blasphemy,,,

Do you have a link to these "mountains of evidence"?


I have provided them several times,,,

if you did nothing but ignore them then why would you care now,,,

You are correct. Any website that claims mankind and T-Rex existed at the same time is bullshit.

If you want to believe that the entire scientific community is in on some conspiracy, and a handful of plucky evangelists are out to save us from their lies, by all means do so. It doesn't change the fact that T-Rex and man never co-existed.


I'm talking physical evidence not opinion like evo is based on,,,

and in fact you have seen them but chose to question if the man had legal rights to have such evidence and refused to talk about the evidence itself,,,

I saw no evidence. You say you posted links, but with 45 pages on this thread and as much on another of the same topic, I did not see them.
 
for man and dinosaur the answer is yes,,,
its just that your religion requires you to ignore it or be attacked for blasphemy,,,

Do you have a link to these "mountains of evidence"?


I have provided them several times,,,

if you did nothing but ignore them then why would you care now,,,

You are correct. Any website that claims mankind and T-Rex existed at the same time is bullshit.

If you want to believe that the entire scientific community is in on some conspiracy, and a handful of plucky evangelists are out to save us from their lies, by all means do so. It doesn't change the fact that T-Rex and man never co-existed.


I'm talking physical evidence not opinion like evo is based on,,,

and in fact you have seen them but chose to question if the man had legal rights to have such evidence and refused to talk about the evidence itself,,,

I saw no evidence. You say you posted links, but with 45 pages on this thread and as much on another of the same topic, I did not see them.


that would explain a lot since it was on several different threads you ignored it,,,

this isnt our first rodeo now is it,,,

remember the one you had to run away from because I wouldnt let you put words in my mouth???

lets face it your religion has corrupted your mind to the point you just cant see whats in front of you if it goes against the teachings,,,
 
Do you have a link to these "mountains of evidence"?


I have provided them several times,,,

if you did nothing but ignore them then why would you care now,,,

You are correct. Any website that claims mankind and T-Rex existed at the same time is bullshit.

If you want to believe that the entire scientific community is in on some conspiracy, and a handful of plucky evangelists are out to save us from their lies, by all means do so. It doesn't change the fact that T-Rex and man never co-existed.


I'm talking physical evidence not opinion like evo is based on,,,

and in fact you have seen them but chose to question if the man had legal rights to have such evidence and refused to talk about the evidence itself,,,

I saw no evidence. You say you posted links, but with 45 pages on this thread and as much on another of the same topic, I did not see them.


that would explain a lot since it was on several different threads you ignored it,,,

this isnt our first rodeo now is it,,,

remember the one you had to run away from because I wouldnt let you put words in my mouth???

lets face it your religion has corrupted your mind to the point you just cant see whats in front of you if it goes against the teachings,,,

I ran away from a thread? lol No, I don't remember that.

I remember embarrassing you a few times and refusing to let you misquote me.


The simple truth is that T-Rex was extinct long before man showed up.
 
Do you have a link to these "mountains of evidence"?

One is the discovery of soft tissue in dinosaur bones.

Another is,
"In 1967 Robert L. Liscomb, a petroleum geologist working for Shell Oil Company, discovered well-preserved bones in Alaska along the Colville River. As the bones were fresh, not permineralized, he assumed that these were recently deposited, perhaps belonging to a mammoth or bison. Twenty years later scientists recognized the bones as belonging to the duck-billed dinosaur Edmontosaurus. Other bones found in this deposit belong to horned dinosaurs, and various carnivorous dinosaurs (including a pygmy Tyrannosaurus).

An article on Liscomb’s bones states: “The bones are stained a dark red brown but otherwise display little permineralization, crushing, or distortion.” (Davies, Kylie L., “Duckbill Dinosaurs (Hadrosauridae, Ornithisichia) from the North Slope of Alaska,” Journal of Paleontology 61, 1987, pp. 198-200.) Other researchers have found similar frozen dinosaur bones. For example, in 1987, while working with scientists from Memorial University on Bylot Island, just east of the northern tip of Baffin Island, a young Canadian Eskimo picked up such a bone fragment. It was identified within days as part of the lower jaw of a duck-billed dinosaur. (Helder, Margaret, “Fresh Dinosaur Bones Found,” Creation Ex Nihilo 14, 1992, p. 16.) In 2015 an article was published entitled “A New Arctic Hadrosaurid from the Prince Creek Formation.” It states: “The hadrosaurid remains are almost entirely disarticulated, show little evidence of weathering, predation, or trampling, and are typically uncrushed and unpermineralized” (Hirotsugu Mori, et. al., Acta Palaeontologica Polonica, Sept. 22, 2015, p. 3.).

While freezing biological material like collagen obviously inhibits decay and helps preserve structure (from your left over turkey dinner to reptile bones) there are limits to how long it can be preserved. Is it reasonable to expect frozen bones to remain in this pristine condition for 60 million years?"

Dinosaur bones have be radiocarbon dated!

"Carbon 14 Dating of Dinosaur Bones
Carbon 14 (C-14) dating is used to establish the age of skeletons, fossils, and other items composed of material that was once alive. Very precise analysis from modern mass spectrometers can establish the date the living material in the sample stopped taking in carbon from the environment (the point of death). Because C-14 has such a short half-life (radioactively decaying into Nitrogen 14), all detectable C-14 should have disappeared well before 100,000 years. But careful analysis by researchers has substantiated the presence of Carbon 14 in dinosaur bones. Critics suggested that the samples became contaminated with modern Carbon 14. However, Carboniferous coal was carefully extracted from deep within mines (far below the layers containing dinosaur remains) and fully sealed till lab analysis. It was found to still contain Carbon 14! (Baumgardner, et. al., “Measurable 14C in Fossilized Organic Materials,” Fifth ICC Paper, August 2003.)

In 2012, researchers analyzed multiple dinosaur bone samples from Texas, Alaska, Colorado, and Montana. C-14 dating revealed that they are less than 39,000 years old. These remarkable findings were presented by the German physicist Dr. Thomas Seiler at a conference sponsored by the American Geophysical Union (AGU) and the Asia Oceania Geosciences Society (AOGS) in Singapore. But apparently this evidence was unacceptable to influential evolutionists who subsequently found out about it. The abstract was removed from the conference website by two chairmen because they could not accept the findings. Unwilling to challenge the data openly, they erased the report from public view without a word to the authors or even to the AOGS officers!"

Evolution is fake science or else their scientists will not hide the truthful evidence.

That long cut and paste was from “Genesis Park”

Hilarious. It’s no wonder you fail to properly attribute the material you steal.

Frozen, Unfossilized Dinosaur Bones | Genesis Park
 
I have provided them several times,,,

if you did nothing but ignore them then why would you care now,,,

You are correct. Any website that claims mankind and T-Rex existed at the same time is bullshit.

If you want to believe that the entire scientific community is in on some conspiracy, and a handful of plucky evangelists are out to save us from their lies, by all means do so. It doesn't change the fact that T-Rex and man never co-existed.


I'm talking physical evidence not opinion like evo is based on,,,

and in fact you have seen them but chose to question if the man had legal rights to have such evidence and refused to talk about the evidence itself,,,

I saw no evidence. You say you posted links, but with 45 pages on this thread and as much on another of the same topic, I did not see them.


that would explain a lot since it was on several different threads you ignored it,,,

this isnt our first rodeo now is it,,,

remember the one you had to run away from because I wouldnt let you put words in my mouth???

lets face it your religion has corrupted your mind to the point you just cant see whats in front of you if it goes against the teachings,,,

I ran away from a thread? lol No, I don't remember that.

I remember embarrassing you a few times and refusing to let you misquote me.


The simple truth is that T-Rex was extinct long before man showed up.
I guess you can prove that???

and why are you holding to just T-rex???

are you saying other dinos did coexist with humans???


and I have never quoted you so you sir are a LIAR,,,
 
You are correct. Any website that claims mankind and T-Rex existed at the same time is bullshit.

If you want to believe that the entire scientific community is in on some conspiracy, and a handful of plucky evangelists are out to save us from their lies, by all means do so. It doesn't change the fact that T-Rex and man never co-existed.


I'm talking physical evidence not opinion like evo is based on,,,

and in fact you have seen them but chose to question if the man had legal rights to have such evidence and refused to talk about the evidence itself,,,

I saw no evidence. You say you posted links, but with 45 pages on this thread and as much on another of the same topic, I did not see them.


that would explain a lot since it was on several different threads you ignored it,,,

this isnt our first rodeo now is it,,,

remember the one you had to run away from because I wouldnt let you put words in my mouth???

lets face it your religion has corrupted your mind to the point you just cant see whats in front of you if it goes against the teachings,,,

I ran away from a thread? lol No, I don't remember that.

I remember embarrassing you a few times and refusing to let you misquote me.


The simple truth is that T-Rex was extinct long before man showed up.
I guess you can prove that???

and why are you holding to just T-rex???

are you saying other dinos did coexist with humans???


and I have never quoted you so you sir are a LIAR,,,
No dinosaurs coexisted with humans, you freak. They were separated by at least 60 million years. Good god you shameless little troll, small children know this.
 
You are correct. Any website that claims mankind and T-Rex existed at the same time is bullshit.

If you want to believe that the entire scientific community is in on some conspiracy, and a handful of plucky evangelists are out to save us from their lies, by all means do so. It doesn't change the fact that T-Rex and man never co-existed.


I'm talking physical evidence not opinion like evo is based on,,,

and in fact you have seen them but chose to question if the man had legal rights to have such evidence and refused to talk about the evidence itself,,,

I saw no evidence. You say you posted links, but with 45 pages on this thread and as much on another of the same topic, I did not see them.


that would explain a lot since it was on several different threads you ignored it,,,

this isnt our first rodeo now is it,,,

remember the one you had to run away from because I wouldnt let you put words in my mouth???

lets face it your religion has corrupted your mind to the point you just cant see whats in front of you if it goes against the teachings,,,

I ran away from a thread? lol No, I don't remember that.

I remember embarrassing you a few times and refusing to let you misquote me.


The simple truth is that T-Rex was extinct long before man showed up.
I guess you can prove that???

and why are you holding to just T-rex???

are you saying other dinos did coexist with humans???


and I have never quoted you so you sir are a LIAR,,,

Tough words,,,

So indignant,,,

,,,
 
I'm talking physical evidence not opinion like evo is based on,,,

and in fact you have seen them but chose to question if the man had legal rights to have such evidence and refused to talk about the evidence itself,,,

I saw no evidence. You say you posted links, but with 45 pages on this thread and as much on another of the same topic, I did not see them.


that would explain a lot since it was on several different threads you ignored it,,,

this isnt our first rodeo now is it,,,

remember the one you had to run away from because I wouldnt let you put words in my mouth???

lets face it your religion has corrupted your mind to the point you just cant see whats in front of you if it goes against the teachings,,,

I ran away from a thread? lol No, I don't remember that.

I remember embarrassing you a few times and refusing to let you misquote me.


The simple truth is that T-Rex was extinct long before man showed up.
I guess you can prove that???

and why are you holding to just T-rex???

are you saying other dinos did coexist with humans???


and I have never quoted you so you sir are a LIAR,,,
No dinosaurs coexisted with humans, you freak. They were separated by at least 60 million years. Good god you shameless little troll, small children know this.
so says the attention seeking troll,,,

I would ask for proof but whats the use,,,
 
You are correct. Any website that claims mankind and T-Rex existed at the same time is bullshit.

If you want to believe that the entire scientific community is in on some conspiracy, and a handful of plucky evangelists are out to save us from their lies, by all means do so. It doesn't change the fact that T-Rex and man never co-existed.

He is correct, but you are wrong. Atheists/agnostics are usually wrong.

The evidence has been provided. You cannot rebut the mountains of evidence. Yet, you provided no evidence of birds from dinosaurs. Little birds coming from very large dinosaurs. I think we can file this under "faith-based" mythology now.
 
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No dinosaurs coexisted with humans, you freak. They were separated by at least 60 million years. Good god you shameless little troll, small children know this.

It's been explained to you RM dating is wrong due to wrong assumptions. If you can demonstrate how secular/atheist scientists knew what parent-daughter isotope ratios existed in the beginning, then you and they would be 100% right. Otherwise, it's 100% wrong. What a putz you are. You had no comeback for your false claims about Christianity based on magic.
 

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