Is There Scientific Evidence Supporting the Floor of Noah?

[WinterBorn]

You have proof that the T-Rex was alive alongside humans? No.

And yes, you did quote me and you did misquote me.

LIAR!!!

Wow.

Thanks for playing.

figures you think this is a game,,,

maybe thats why lying doesnt matter to you,,,

So you maintain you never quoted me? Are you making the claim about this thread or ever?

you said I misquoted you,,,pick one and stick with it

First you said you never quoted me. How about we stick with that?

Post #452 "and I have never quoted you so you sir are a LIAR,,,"

 

[Capri]

I get "this crap" from books. The last one, from which I got the 2.75 billion years, was written by a physicist with his PhD from MIT. Not crap.
Estimates of the age of the universe vary. From the last book I read on the subject, 2.75 billion was an estimate accepted as valid by cosmologists. It's been a few years so that may have changed.
There is a center of the universe. It's the point from which the universe originated. The universe is expanding at a measurable rate. Extrapolating from that rate, the origin point has been identified.
Time doesn't flow at a constant rate throughout the universe. On Earth, the planet is billions of years old but measuring from elsewhere would result in a different age. Using the chi spiral, that age at the center of the universe would be about 6000 years.

No it wasn't. And who cares if it was? The age of the earth is based on mountains of empirical evidence, not the wishful thinking of a paid liar trying to sell books.

Not by more than about 5%, they don't. You are just making stuff up.

00% wrong. Complete and utter horseshit. You literally just made up that nonsense.

No it hasnt. That is not how it works. You are making stuff up and embarrassing yourself.

No it wouldn't. Complete nonsense that you also just made up.

I double-checked what I wrote earlier and the book from which I got the information. I mistyped the 2 in 2.75 and subsequently copied my own error. It should have been 4.75 billion years for the estimated age of Earth. My apologies.

Regardless of my typo, however, everything I said about the center of the universe and time is accurate, based on the work of cosmologists, and from books for laypeople about cosmology written by legitimate scientists. You're not discussing the topic but, rather, just claiming I made it up and being insulting.

The universe is expanding.
Using the rate of expansion, the origin point of the universe can be estimated mathematically.
Time flows at different rates in different locations.
The age of Earth is different at the universe's origin point than it is on the planet.
Using chi for the ratio, the age of Earth at the origin point of the universe would be approximately an age that conforms with calculations based on the Old Testament.

If you or anyone would like to converse about that, please, let's.
If you've nothing to offer but contradiction, accusation, or insult, please don't bother.

I’m not sure what “chi” is or how that will lead anyone to some point in space that defines the point of the initial expansion of the universe.

A quick search of two of the leading research universities would refute the “chi” claim.

Where is the centre of the universe?

https://www.nap.edu/read/6024/chapter/3

Aside from the above, there is still irrefutable evidence of a very ancient planet and solar system.

Chi is an irrational number that defines a spiral, the way pi is an irrational number that defines a circle.

Chi isn't what leads to the origin point of the universe. That's based on calculations derived from the rate at which the universe is expanding. Using chi against the varying flow of time leads to Earth being 4.75 billion years old here at 6000 years old at the location of the Big Bang.

The chi claim is a theory; firmly grounded and legitimately scientific, but still a theory. There are others. All theories are open to questioning; that's sort of the point of them.

Thank you for the links. I'll read them when I have more time.

There's definitely evidence of a very ancient planet, solar system, and universe. I'm not disputing that; only saying that there's solid, modern cosmology that lends credence to the Biblical timeline from creation to now (note that the creation narrative is told from the perspective of the Creator until man is created, and from that point shifts to the perspective of humanity). The Biblical creation narrative, like the story of Noah, is a myth. Myth may be and usually is based on fact.

The ultimate point is that, rather than being in conflict, science and the Bible -- along with other ancient wisdom literature -- may co-exist harmoniously, both containing truth, both with much to teach us.

 

[progressive hunter]

LIAR!!!

Wow.

Thanks for playing.

figures you think this is a game,,,

maybe thats why lying doesnt matter to you,,,

So you maintain you never quoted me? Are you making the claim about this thread or ever?

you said I misquoted you,,,pick one and stick with it

First you said you never quoted me. How about we stick with that?

Post #452 "and I have never quoted you so you sir are a LIAR,,,"

but you said I misquoted you,,,

 

[WinterBorn]

Wow.

Thanks for playing.

figures you think this is a game,,,

maybe thats why lying doesnt matter to you,,,

So you maintain you never quoted me? Are you making the claim about this thread or ever?

you said I misquoted you,,,pick one and stick with it

First you said you never quoted me. How about we stick with that?

Post #452 "and I have never quoted you so you sir are a LIAR,,,"

but you said I misquoted you,,,

After you said you never quoted me. I like starting at the beginning instead of just bouncing around, picking & choosing.

 

[progressive hunter]

figures you think this is a game,,,

maybe thats why lying doesnt matter to you,,,

So you maintain you never quoted me? Are you making the claim about this thread or ever?

you said I misquoted you,,,pick one and stick with it

First you said you never quoted me. How about we stick with that?

Post #452 "and I have never quoted you so you sir are a LIAR,,,"

but you said I misquoted you,,,

After you said you never quoted me. I like starting at the beginning instead of just bouncing around, picking & choosing.

which is all a deflection from the main topic because your a liar,,,

 

[WinterBorn]

So you maintain you never quoted me? Are you making the claim about this thread or ever?

you said I misquoted you,,,pick one and stick with it

First you said you never quoted me. How about we stick with that?

Post #452 "and I have never quoted you so you sir are a LIAR,,,"

but you said I misquoted you,,,

After you said you never quoted me. I like starting at the beginning instead of just bouncing around, picking & choosing.

which is all a deflection from the main topic because your a liar,,,

Wait, you said you never quoted me, I call you on that, and now you claim I am deflecting from the main topic? lol Okey dokey then.

I am not running from the main topic at all.

 

[progressive hunter]

you said I misquoted you,,,pick one and stick with it

First you said you never quoted me. How about we stick with that?

Post #452 "and I have never quoted you so you sir are a LIAR,,,"

but you said I misquoted you,,,

After you said you never quoted me. I like starting at the beginning instead of just bouncing around, picking & choosing.

which is all a deflection from the main topic because your a liar,,,

Wait, you said you never quoted me, I call you on that, and now you claim I am deflecting from the main topic? lol Okey dokey then.

I am not running from the main topic at all.

you said I mis quoted you,,,so please pick one and stick with it,,,

 

[progressive hunter]

you said I misquoted you,,,pick one and stick with it

First you said you never quoted me. How about we stick with that?

Post #452 "and I have never quoted you so you sir are a LIAR,,,"

but you said I misquoted you,,,

After you said you never quoted me. I like starting at the beginning instead of just bouncing around, picking & choosing.

which is all a deflection from the main topic because your a liar,,,

Wait, you said you never quoted me, I call you on that, and now you claim I am deflecting from the main topic? lol Okey dokey then.

I am not running from the main topic at all.

what I want to see is your evidence that man and dino didnt coexist and see how that weighs up against the evidence they did coexist

when you do that and stop making it personal we can have an adult conversation,,,

 

[WinterBorn]

First you said you never quoted me. How about we stick with that?

Post #452 "and I have never quoted you so you sir are a LIAR,,,"

but you said I misquoted you,,,

After you said you never quoted me. I like starting at the beginning instead of just bouncing around, picking & choosing.

which is all a deflection from the main topic because your a liar,,,

Wait, you said you never quoted me, I call you on that, and now you claim I am deflecting from the main topic? lol Okey dokey then.

I am not running from the main topic at all.

you said I mis quoted you,,,so please pick one and stick with it,,,

Yes I did. That was after you said you never quoted me.

 

[progressive hunter]

but you said I misquoted you,,,

After you said you never quoted me. I like starting at the beginning instead of just bouncing around, picking & choosing.

which is all a deflection from the main topic because your a liar,,,

Wait, you said you never quoted me, I call you on that, and now you claim I am deflecting from the main topic? lol Okey dokey then.

I am not running from the main topic at all.

you said I mis quoted you,,,so please pick one and stick with it,,,

Yes I did. That was after you said you never quoted me.

why is it you have such trouble sticking to the topic???

 

[WinterBorn]

First you said you never quoted me. How about we stick with that?

Post #452 "and I have never quoted you so you sir are a LIAR,,,"

but you said I misquoted you,,,

After you said you never quoted me. I like starting at the beginning instead of just bouncing around, picking & choosing.

which is all a deflection from the main topic because your a liar,,,

Wait, you said you never quoted me, I call you on that, and now you claim I am deflecting from the main topic? lol Okey dokey then.

I am not running from the main topic at all.

what I want to see is your evidence that man and dino didnt coexist and see how that weighs up against the evidence they did coexist

when you do that and stop making it personal we can have an adult conversation,,,

LMAO!!! You scream "LIAR!!!" and yet I am making it personal? Project much?

T. rex Extinction- EnchantedLearning.com
"T. rex went extinct during the K-T mass extinction, about 65 million years ago."

Tyrannosaurus Rex, Dinosaur Pictures, Dinosaur Facts - National Geographic
"Tyrannosaurus rex lived in forested river valleys in North America during the late Cretaceous period. It became extinct about 65 million years ago in the Cretaceous-Tertiary mass extinction."


There are a couple of links that might help you.

Introduction to Human Evolution

That last links shows the history of man and the first fossil evidence of his existence is around 4 million years ago.

 

[WinterBorn]

After you said you never quoted me. I like starting at the beginning instead of just bouncing around, picking & choosing.

which is all a deflection from the main topic because your a liar,,,

Wait, you said you never quoted me, I call you on that, and now you claim I am deflecting from the main topic? lol Okey dokey then.

I am not running from the main topic at all.

you said I mis quoted you,,,so please pick one and stick with it,,,

Yes I did. That was after you said you never quoted me.

why is it you have such trouble sticking to the topic???

LOL! I am having trouble? You are the one bringing old shit up. You claim you ran me out of a thread. You called me names. You scream "LIAR!!". I am quite happy to discuss the topic.

Although I may need to go into work, so you chew on the links I posted and we will talk.

 

[progressive hunter]

but you said I misquoted you,,,

After you said you never quoted me. I like starting at the beginning instead of just bouncing around, picking & choosing.

which is all a deflection from the main topic because your a liar,,,

Wait, you said you never quoted me, I call you on that, and now you claim I am deflecting from the main topic? lol Okey dokey then.

I am not running from the main topic at all.

what I want to see is your evidence that man and dino didnt coexist and see how that weighs up against the evidence they did coexist

when you do that and stop making it personal we can have an adult conversation,,,

LMAO!!! You scream "LIAR!!!" and yet I am making it personal? Project much?

T. rex Extinction- EnchantedLearning.com
"T. rex went extinct during the K-T mass extinction, about 65 million years ago."

Tyrannosaurus Rex, Dinosaur Pictures, Dinosaur Facts - National Geographic
"Tyrannosaurus rex lived in forested river valleys in North America during the late Cretaceous period. It became extinct about 65 million years ago in the Cretaceous-Tertiary mass extinction."


There are a couple of links that might help you.

Introduction to Human Evolution

That last links shows the history of man and the first fossil evidence of his existence is around 4 million years ago.

sorry but opinion doesnt over ride physical evidence

 

[progressive hunter]

which is all a deflection from the main topic because your a liar,,,

Wait, you said you never quoted me, I call you on that, and now you claim I am deflecting from the main topic? lol Okey dokey then.

I am not running from the main topic at all.

you said I mis quoted you,,,so please pick one and stick with it,,,

Yes I did. That was after you said you never quoted me.

why is it you have such trouble sticking to the topic???

LOL! I am having trouble? You are the one bringing old shit up. You claim you ran me out of a thread. You called me names. You scream "LIAR!!". I am quite happy to discuss the topic.

Although I may need to go into work, so you chew on the links I posted and we will talk.

see you misquoted me again,,,I said you ran away,, not that I ran you away

LIAR LIAR pants on fire

 

[WinterBorn]

After you said you never quoted me. I like starting at the beginning instead of just bouncing around, picking & choosing.

which is all a deflection from the main topic because your a liar,,,

Wait, you said you never quoted me, I call you on that, and now you claim I am deflecting from the main topic? lol Okey dokey then.

I am not running from the main topic at all.

what I want to see is your evidence that man and dino didnt coexist and see how that weighs up against the evidence they did coexist

when you do that and stop making it personal we can have an adult conversation,,,

LMAO!!! You scream "LIAR!!!" and yet I am making it personal? Project much?

T. rex Extinction- EnchantedLearning.com
"T. rex went extinct during the K-T mass extinction, about 65 million years ago."

Tyrannosaurus Rex, Dinosaur Pictures, Dinosaur Facts - National Geographic
"Tyrannosaurus rex lived in forested river valleys in North America during the late Cretaceous period. It became extinct about 65 million years ago in the Cretaceous-Tertiary mass extinction."


There are a couple of links that might help you.

Introduction to Human Evolution

That last links shows the history of man and the first fossil evidence of his existence is around 4 million years ago.

sorry but opinion doesnt over ride physical evidence

So you think National Geographic prints opinion without factual evidence?

 

[WinterBorn]

Wait, you said you never quoted me, I call you on that, and now you claim I am deflecting from the main topic? lol Okey dokey then.

I am not running from the main topic at all.

you said I mis quoted you,,,so please pick one and stick with it,,,

Yes I did. That was after you said you never quoted me.

why is it you have such trouble sticking to the topic???

LOL! I am having trouble? You are the one bringing old shit up. You claim you ran me out of a thread. You called me names. You scream "LIAR!!". I am quite happy to discuss the topic.

Although I may need to go into work, so you chew on the links I posted and we will talk.

see you misquoted me again,,,I said you ran away,, not that I ran you away

LIAR LIAR pants on fire

I believe you said I ran away because of what you posted.

 

[progressive hunter]

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which is all a deflection from the main topic because your a liar,,,

Wait, you said you never quoted me, I call you on that, and now you claim I am deflecting from the main topic? lol Okey dokey then.

I am not running from the main topic at all.

what I want to see is your evidence that man and dino didnt coexist and see how that weighs up against the evidence they did coexist

when you do that and stop making it personal we can have an adult conversation,,,

LMAO!!! You scream "LIAR!!!" and yet I am making it personal? Project much?

T. rex Extinction- EnchantedLearning.com
"T. rex went extinct during the K-T mass extinction, about 65 million years ago."

Tyrannosaurus Rex, Dinosaur Pictures, Dinosaur Facts - National Geographic
"Tyrannosaurus rex lived in forested river valleys in North America during the late Cretaceous period. It became extinct about 65 million years ago in the Cretaceous-Tertiary mass extinction."


There are a couple of links that might help you.

Introduction to Human Evolution

That last links shows the history of man and the first fossil evidence of his existence is around 4 million years ago.

sorry but opinion doesnt over ride physical evidence

So you think National Geographic prints opinion without factual evidence?

everyday,,,

 

[progressive hunter]

you said I mis quoted you,,,so please pick one and stick with it,,,

Yes I did. That was after you said you never quoted me.

why is it you have such trouble sticking to the topic???

LOL! I am having trouble? You are the one bringing old shit up. You claim you ran me out of a thread. You called me names. You scream "LIAR!!". I am quite happy to discuss the topic.

Although I may need to go into work, so you chew on the links I posted and we will talk.

see you misquoted me again,,,I said you ran away,, not that I ran you away

LIAR LIAR pants on fire

I believe you said I ran away because of what you posted.

believe what you want,,I have no idea other than you were losing the debate and then werent there,,,

 

[WinterBorn]

Yes I did. That was after you said you never quoted me.

why is it you have such trouble sticking to the topic???

LOL! I am having trouble? You are the one bringing old shit up. You claim you ran me out of a thread. You called me names. You scream "LIAR!!". I am quite happy to discuss the topic.

Although I may need to go into work, so you chew on the links I posted and we will talk.

see you misquoted me again,,,I said you ran away,, not that I ran you away

LIAR LIAR pants on fire

I believe you said I ran away because of what you posted.

believe what you want,,I have no idea other than you were losing the debate and then werent there,,,

Funny, before you said "remember the one you had to run away from because I wouldnt let you put words in my mouth???". Now I just disappeared?

And why can't you stick to the topic?

National Geographic is a well respected organization that presents scientific data and research. As opposed to a church based publication trying to prove their own ideology.

 

[progressive hunter]

why is it you have such trouble sticking to the topic???

LOL! I am having trouble? You are the one bringing old shit up. You claim you ran me out of a thread. You called me names. You scream "LIAR!!". I am quite happy to discuss the topic.

Although I may need to go into work, so you chew on the links I posted and we will talk.

see you misquoted me again,,,I said you ran away,, not that I ran you away

LIAR LIAR pants on fire

I believe you said I ran away because of what you posted.

believe what you want,,I have no idea other than you were losing the debate and then werent there,,,

Funny, before you said "remember the one you had to run away from because I wouldnt let you put words in my mouth???". Now I just disappeared?

And why can't you stick to the topic?

National Geographic is a well respected organization that presents scientific data and research. As opposed to a church based publication trying to prove their own ideology.

physical evidence has no church