Is There Scientific Evidence Supporting the Floor of Noah?

[progressive hunter]

Are you saying the "dinosaurs" as we know them today didn't exist? We got plenty of fossils. What do you want to call them in the past?

I don’t know.
Every time they find a new bone they change what the entire skeleton “looked” like.
It’s a speculative science.

We are discussing today's dinosaurs whose fossils have been found and put together. The Torah does not mention these creatures? So, the Torah is denied by science?

I'm sure Job knew about dragons and behemoths, but the Torah doesn't describe it?

The fossils we have are bones, not skeletons.
Torah denied by science?
Do you realize how many Observant Jews are scientists and Nobel Winners.
The lack of mention simply indicates lack of importance to eternity.
For instance, the Torah does not mention Noah’s height but mentions Moshe’s height from which we can deduce Aaron’s height due to Aaron needing a step ladder to light the menorah in the Holy of Holies.
The word for dragon is actually Large Fish, not Dragon.
But Dragons sounds scarier and Romans loved it when people were superstitious and scared.

if you say so,,,

I studied the NT for a few years...so many devils.

yes we all know about the democrats and republicans,,,

 

[Indeependent]

I don’t know.
Every time they find a new bone they change what the entire skeleton “looked” like.
It’s a speculative science.

We are discussing today's dinosaurs whose fossils have been found and put together. The Torah does not mention these creatures? So, the Torah is denied by science?

I'm sure Job knew about dragons and behemoths, but the Torah doesn't describe it?

The fossils we have are bones, not skeletons.
Torah denied by science?
Do you realize how many Observant Jews are scientists and Nobel Winners.
The lack of mention simply indicates lack of importance to eternity.
For instance, the Torah does not mention Noah’s height but mentions Moshe’s height from which we can deduce Aaron’s height due to Aaron needing a step ladder to light the menorah in the Holy of Holies.
The word for dragon is actually Large Fish, not Dragon.
But Dragons sounds scarier and Romans loved it when people were superstitious and scared.

if you say so,,,

I studied the NT for a few years...so many devils.

yes we all know about the democrats and republicans,,,

You mean the group that curses each other in front of cameras and then negotiates in the back rooms so that they all benefit from whatever garbage legislation they’re going to pass?

 

[alang1216]

Both of you links got to the last page or p. 20 now. What page is it on?

Weird??? It works OK for me. It is on pg 28.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The fossils we have are bones, not skeletons.

Perfect illustration of the delusional, confused mind of a YEC fraud....

 

[WinterBorn]

But there have been thousands of fossils found, and not one single higher animal.

Would you live next to a TRex? I'm sure if you did, then we'd find your fossil.

That is your answer? A T-Rex ran them all away? lol

 

[progressive hunter]

But there have been thousands of fossils found, and not one single higher animal.

Would you live next to a TRex? I'm sure if you did, then we'd find your fossil.

That is your answer? A T-Rex ran them all away? lol

how does a t-rex chase away a fossil???

 

[WinterBorn]

So, unless the entire ocean is excavated, your claim is that those fossil could possibly exist?

Cool. Then when you ask people who believe in evolution where the fossils are that show transitions, refer back to this comment (and include the entire surface of the Earth).

Come now. It's your claim and job to show transitions, but your side hasn't produced any. It means there wasn't any transition. Else if you and your common ancestor theory is right, then you wouldn't hesitate to show us the transitions and beat it over our heads. You tried to do so with human fossils haha.

Has the entire earth been excavated? lmao

 

[WinterBorn]

But there have been thousands of fossils found, and not one single higher animal.

Would you live next to a TRex? I'm sure if you did, then we'd find your fossil.

That is your answer? A T-Rex ran them all away? lol

how does a t-rex chase away a fossil???

Did I say that? Or did I mock the idea that his answer is that a T-Rex chased away all the other animals?

 

[WinterBorn]

The presence of marine fossils at the top of Everest proves Evolution

plate tectonics forced those mountain ranges up at a time there were only simple simple creatures at the bottom of the sea

No dinosaur bones on top of Everest

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Plate tectonics shows that the continental drift theory and creation scientists Alfred Wegener was correct. It means the present isn't the key to the past. If it was, then we'd be seeing today's monkeys becoming bipedal and human. That doesn't happen, so it shows that they weren't bipedal in the past.

Dinosaurs were part of Noah's Ark, so they were part of those that survived . As for the rest, the global flood theory shows dinosaurs died moving to a common location. It explains why they are found together in dinosaur graveyards.

Wow
Quite a theory

It shows no understanding of evolutionary theory. No, we did not descend from monkeys. We are evolving, but the process is so slow, it goes unnoticed

I have seen Jurassic Park. I would love to have seen Noah’s dinosaurs on the Ark.

Haha. Who understands evo theory? There is no evolution; it's based on fake science.

Evolution's common descent theory states that humans descended from monkeys. Else you are admitting that monkeys could not have evolved to the point of becoming bipedal. It starts with tailed monkeys which became tailless ones. There is no fossil evidence of this. This does not happen today. Yet, the secular/atheist scientists claim humans still have vestigial organs from their evolution.

There is more evidence of transitions than there is that a huge volume of water was locked under the surface until god let it loose.

 

[progressive hunter]

The presence of marine fossils at the top of Everest proves Evolution

plate tectonics forced those mountain ranges up at a time there were only simple simple creatures at the bottom of the sea

No dinosaur bones on top of Everest

View attachment 264261

Plate tectonics shows that the continental drift theory and creation scientists Alfred Wegener was correct. It means the present isn't the key to the past. If it was, then we'd be seeing today's monkeys becoming bipedal and human. That doesn't happen, so it shows that they weren't bipedal in the past.

Dinosaurs were part of Noah's Ark, so they were part of those that survived . As for the rest, the global flood theory shows dinosaurs died moving to a common location. It explains why they are found together in dinosaur graveyards.

Wow
Quite a theory

It shows no understanding of evolutionary theory. No, we did not descend from monkeys. We are evolving, but the process is so slow, it goes unnoticed

I have seen Jurassic Park. I would love to have seen Noah’s dinosaurs on the Ark.

Haha. Who understands evo theory? There is no evolution; it's based on fake science.

Evolution's common descent theory states that humans descended from monkeys. Else you are admitting that monkeys could not have evolved to the point of becoming bipedal. It starts with tailed monkeys which became tailless ones. There is no fossil evidence of this. This does not happen today. Yet, the secular/atheist scientists claim humans still have vestigial organs from their evolution.

There is more evidence of transitions than there is that a huge volume of water was locked under the surface until god let it loose.

well there is zero evidence of transition and there are scientific facts that say water under the surface,,,

god is irrelevant,,,

 

[Likkmee]

The floor, and total structure was of "gopher wood". Nobody has come up with it....I'll buy some if you have it

 

[Capri]

The earth is billions of years old

now I am just shaking my head and wondering how a grown man can ignore facts, data and demonstrate zero common sense.

The age of Earth depends on from where in the universe one is measuring. On Earth, the planet is about 2.75 billion years old.
Use the chi ratio to follow back to the observed center of the universe and Earth is about 6000 years old.
Those are facts supported by data.

There is no verse mentioning dinosaurs.

There's no verse mentioning raspberries. Raspberries don't exist.

Find me a copy of a Torah scroll anywhere on earth that doesn’t exactly duplicate every other scroll

You may want to read "Revelation Restored" by David Halivni. It discusses a theory of how the earliest Old Testament books were lost and recreated.

Do you have any evidence of anything being supernaturally designed?

You may want to read "The Hidden Face of God" by Gerard Schroeder. It contains ample evidence of supernatural design.

There is more evidence of transitions

There's no evidence of transitions in the fossil record except for one fossil, the one that's pictured in every single biology text with a caption saying it's "an example" of a transitional form; it's actual not an example but the only example. The fossil record shows rapid (in geological terms) destruction of life forms followed by rapid creation of different life forms.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The age of Earth depends on from where in the universe one is measuring. On Earth, the planet is about 2.75 billion years old.
Use the chi ratio to follow back to the observed center of the universe and Earth is about 6000 years old.
Those are facts supported by data.

That's all total nonsense. The Earth is 4.54 billion years old, no matter who measures it. And there is no "center of the universe"...where are you getting this crap....?

 

[Hollie]

You may want to read "The Hidden Face of God" by Gerard Schroeder. It contains ample evidence of supernatural design.

Great. Since there is ample evidence for supernatural design, you must have a few examples you can share.

You have a few examples, right?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You may want to read "The Hidden Face of God" by Gerard Schroeder. It contains ample evidence of supernatural design.

No it doesn't.

There's no evidence of transitions in the fossil record except for one fossil, the one that's pi

Shameless lie....

 

[progressive hunter]

The age of Earth depends on from where in the universe one is measuring. On Earth, the planet is about 2.75 billion years old.
Use the chi ratio to follow back to the observed center of the universe and Earth is about 6000 years old.
Those are facts supported by data.

That's all total nonsense. The Earth is 4.54 billion years old, no matter who measures it. And there is no "center of the universe"...where are you getting this crap....?

4.54 billion my ass,,,

 

[james bond]

The fossils we have are bones, not skeletons.
Torah denied by science?
Do you realize how many Observant Jews are scientists and Nobel Winners.
The lack of mention simply indicates lack of importance to eternity.
For instance, the Torah does not mention Noah’s height but mentions Moshe’s height from which we can deduce Aaron’s height due to Aaron needing a step ladder to light the menorah in the Holy of Holies.
The word for dragon is actually Large Fish, not Dragon.
But Dragons sounds scarier and Romans loved it when people were superstitious and scared.

Ok, but you said skeletons which is different.

So science backs up the Torah. If science backs up Torah, then it should describe a dragon or behemoth like creature such as a brachiasaur in Job. I think you are thinking of the mythological dragons. A dragon would be the word for what we call dinosaur today.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The age of Earth depends on from where in the universe one is measuring. On Earth, the planet is about 2.75 billion years old.
Use the chi ratio to follow back to the observed center of the universe and Earth is about 6000 years old.
Those are facts supported by data.

That's all total nonsense. The Earth is 4.54 billion years old, no matter who measures it. And there is no "center of the universe"...where are you getting this crap....?

4.54 billion my ass,,,

Well, the cool thing about empirical knowledge is that it is quite independent of your embarrassing, childish voodoo fetishes...

 

[progressive hunter]

The age of Earth depends on from where in the universe one is measuring. On Earth, the planet is about 2.75 billion years old.
Use the chi ratio to follow back to the observed center of the universe and Earth is about 6000 years old.
Those are facts supported by data.

That's all total nonsense. The Earth is 4.54 billion years old, no matter who measures it. And there is no "center of the universe"...where are you getting this crap....?

4.54 billion my ass,,,

Well, the cool thing about empirical knowledge is that it is quite independent of your embarrassing, childish voodoo fetishes...

I sure would like to talk to the guy that made that ruler,,,

 

[percysunshine]

Why does this stuff bother people?

Imagine the 2004 boxing day tsunami before people knew what caused tsunamis.