Is the world "better off" at 580 ppm or 300 ppm of CO2?

[ReinyDays]

You have to ask yourself why climatologists are the only scientists who refuse to follow the scientific method.

Quite an accusation. Got any examples?

Scientology doesn't use scientific method ... does that help? ...

 

[Grumblenuts]

So westwall's a Scientologist?

You got me ... what is "plainly obvious" about the weasel words you're using ... "deniers", "unsurprisingly", "like crazy", "shockingly", "windfalls", "wealthy's" ... what is the logical basis of surprise or shock ... how are we to deduce these qualities, and how do we quantify them and perform an experiment to either confirm or refute these values? ...

Wow, you expected a robot? Is it even possible to mistake this place for a peer review board or something? Sorry, having difficulty finding your complaint credible. My intent is to be unambiguous, punchy, and fun. Not wordy, whiny, and always full of beans like some people around here

Please ... what is the CO2 "roof" you speak of ... the 960,000 ppm primordial levels? ...

For the love of God ... please stop using weasel words ... they make you look like a weasel ...

I'm off to practice my tap-dancing atop a 24 foot extension ladder ... if I don't post anymore means I've fallen to my death ...

Okay, what do you have against weasels? Don't be a fool. Be sure that ladder stays well secured to your deck railing and lays perfectly flat on the ground!

 

[ding]

This is my thread.

Couple of things I've been wanting to ask you .. so thank you for this permission ...

1] Arctic Amplification + 2nd Law of Thermodynamics ... thoughts, opinions, profanity? ...

2] Are you buying electric power to post here on the Free Market ... or are you using SOCIALISM electricity? ...

I am glad I could oblige. It was the least I could do. Never let it be said I didn't do the least I could do.

Not sure what you are getting at with #1 so a little more information would be helpful. The closest I can come to understanding arctic amplification is albedo. So some condition or conditions trigger a really cold winter and the snow pack doesn't melt during the summer in Canada and parts of northern America and it's albedo amplifies the conditions which were triggered by orbital forces or gulf stream switch off or both. The following winter is amplified by the lack of summer so to speak. A snow ball rolling down the hill so to speak.

But the underlying conditions which set the table so to speak are the isolated polar regions from warm marine currents and atmospheric CO2 similar to our curent level.

On #2 I don't think it is SOCIALISM electricity but tell me more and I might be convinced.

 

[ding]

So westwall's a Scientologist?

You got me ... what is "plainly obvious" about the weasel words you're using ... "deniers", "unsurprisingly", "like crazy", "shockingly", "windfalls", "wealthy's" ... what is the logical basis of surprise or shock ... how are we to deduce these qualities, and how do we quantify them and perform an experiment to either confirm or refute these values? ...

Wow, you expected a robot? Is it even possible to mistake this place for a peer review board or something? Sorry, having difficulty finding your complaint credible. My intent is to be unambiguous, punchy, and fun. Not wordy, whiny, and always full of beans like some people around here

Please ... what is the CO2 "roof" you speak of ... the 960,000 ppm primordial levels? ...

For the love of God ... please stop using weasel words ... they make you look like a weasel ...

I'm off to practice my tap-dancing atop a 24 foot extension ladder ... if I don't post anymore means I've fallen to my death ...

Okay, what do you have against weasels? Don't be a fool. Be sure that ladder stays well secured to your deck railing and lays perfectly flat on the ground!

So objectivity and manners are too much to ask for?

 

[Grumblenuts]

So objectivity and manners are too much to ask for?

You mean like not butting into other's conversations just to leave pissy comments?

 

[ReinyDays]

HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW ... you poor people ... I'm still alive ... was on the 6 foot step ladder when I fell, no biggie, had the sense to snatch the paint bucket out of mid-air before it spilled ... either fly a ladder leg 6 inches off the ground ... OR tilt the ladder 30º to the horizon ... not both ... safety tip there ...

So westwall's a Scientologist?

westwall's a colander head ... existence is refutable ... with marinara ...

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The arctic is warming twice as fast as the equator ... energy has less force behind it moving it through the atmosphere ... thus more powerful weather events will be less likely ... less floods, less droughts, fewer hurricanes, etc etc etc ... yes, no, I'm an idiot? ...

How many power companies are you allowed to do business with? ... one? ... [smile] ... as they say in the trade ... || ...

 

[ReinyDays]

You mean like not butting into other's conversations just to leave pissy comments?

Let's not get pissy about it ...

 

[ding]

HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW ... you poor people ... I'm still alive ... was on the 6 foot step ladder when I fell, no biggie, had the sense to snatch the paint bucket out of mid-air before it spilled ... either fly a ladder leg 6 inches off the ground ... OR tilt the ladder 30º to the horizon ... not both ... safety tip there ...

So westwall's a Scientologist?

westwall's a colander head ... existence is refutable ... with marinara ...

=====

The arctic is warming twice as fast as the equator ... energy has less force behind it moving it through the atmosphere ... thus more powerful weather events will be less likely ... less floods, less droughts, fewer hurricanes, etc etc etc ... yes, no, I'm an idiot? ...

How many power companies are you allowed to do business with? ... one? ... [smile] ... as they say in the trade ... || ...

Yes, that is true. It really should be called polar warming. I've been saying that for awhile. But this is what happens during an interglacial cycle.

As for the more or less intense storms, droughts, hurricanes, flood, locus, frogs, etc. I don't put any stock into that at all.

Still not following the power company thingee. You will have to give more of an explanation to me because I is slow.

 

[ding]

So objectivity and manners are too much to ask for?

You mean like not butting into other's conversations just to leave pissy comments?

Actually I was referring to not lying.

If you don't lie that the northern hemisphere glaciation doesn't occur at 280 ppm and southern hemisphere glaciation doesn't occur until 750 ppm then there is no pissy response at all.

 

[ReinyDays]

Just because you don't examine things, doesn't make them irrational ... just because you won't listen, doesn't mean there's no definition of socialism ...

Maybe some day read you sig line ... just saying ...

 

[Grumblenuts]

when I fell, no biggie, had the sense to snatch the paint bucket out of mid-air before it spilled ...

I'm concerned that the paint bucket may be experiencing PTSD. Are you sure it's going to be okay?

 

[Grumblenuts]

If you don't lie that the northern hemisphere glaciation doesn't occur at 280 ppm and southern hemisphere glaciation doesn't occur until 750 ppm then there is no pissy response at all.

Boy, that's a lot of negatives to parse. Let's try this, quote me saying "northern hemisphere glaciation doesn't occur at 280 ppm and southern hemisphere glaciation doesn't occur until 750 ppm" and I'm confident a satisfactory arrangement will become feasible.

 

[abu afak]

Did you have a point, Mr. Mensa?

Yes you Blithering IDIOT
As per the OP, and my Map in response..
Life did fine when it was warmer.. it just wasn't populated "from sea to shining sea" with cities and people and have sea level 100' higher.
Ooops.
`

 

[ding]

If you don't lie that the northern hemisphere glaciation doesn't occur at 280 ppm and southern hemisphere glaciation doesn't occur until 750 ppm then there is no pissy response at all.

Boy, that's a lot of negatives to parse. Let's try this, quote me saying "northern hemisphere glaciation doesn't occur at 280 ppm and southern hemisphere glaciation doesn't occur until 750 ppm" and I'm confident a satisfactory arrangement will become feasible.

It doesn't matter as you will ass fuck the science anyway.

 

[james bond]

Given that you believe the earth is ~6,000 years old this might not be the thread for you.


Just sayin'

What about water vapor? That was created very early. It is the greatest greenhouse gas. You change ppm on that and really upset the chemistry and atmosphere of the world. That will kill the entire planet if someone could do it. That's demonstrable with a greenhouse.

Earth’s atmosphere has a finely calibrated ratio of oxygen to nitrogen -- just enough CO2 and adequate water vapor levels to promote advanced life, allow photosynthesis (without an excessive greenhouse effect), and to allow for sufficient rainfall.

Thus, what do you think you are believing with this CO2 and ppm on it? The science of atheism.

The science of atheism found these fine tuning parameters. They found how gravity affects our greenhouse gases and atmosphere. This was from 2007 - 2011. Today, you won't be able to find the discussion of these parameters on the internet. The science of atheism has disavowed all of it due to it helping people like myself, the creationists. Stephen Hawking knew it because he either led that group or was part of the group of scientists who found them while studying the big bang.

Basically, nothing lasts 65 million years. Our common sense should tell us that rocks and fossils would not be around that long. Our planet would not be around that long. Our universe is churning into destruction.

Anyway, let's wait for the James Webb telescope to see what really is happening around us. We should learn more about our atmospheric conditions compared to other solar systems and galaxies. The science of atheism which you believe does not want to admit that we have the perfect location for life.

Not the thread for you.

It means you are wrong again practicing the science of atheism. Can I say you're playing with fire?

 

[Grumblenuts]

If you don't lie that the northern hemisphere glaciation doesn't occur at 280 ppm and southern hemisphere glaciation doesn't occur until 750 ppm then there is no pissy response at all.

Boy, that's a lot of negatives to parse. Let's try this, quote me saying "northern hemisphere glaciation doesn't occur at 280 ppm and southern hemisphere glaciation doesn't occur until 750 ppm" and I'm confident a satisfactory arrangement will become feasible.

It doesn't matter as you will ass fuck the science anyway.

Okay, so just keep lying to yourself about me being a liar. Circular self-delusion.. Perfect!

 

[ding]

Given that you believe the earth is ~6,000 years old this might not be the thread for you.


Just sayin'

What about water vapor? That was created very early. It is the greatest greenhouse gas. You change ppm on that and really upset the chemistry and atmosphere of the world. That will kill the entire planet if someone could do it. That's demonstrable with a greenhouse.

Earth’s atmosphere has a finely calibrated ratio of oxygen to nitrogen -- just enough CO2 and adequate water vapor levels to promote advanced life, allow photosynthesis (without an excessive greenhouse effect), and to allow for sufficient rainfall.

Thus, what do you think you are believing with this CO2 and ppm on it? The science of atheism.

The science of atheism found these fine tuning parameters. They found how gravity affects our greenhouse gases and atmosphere. This was from 2007 - 2011. Today, you won't be able to find the discussion of these parameters on the internet. The science of atheism has disavowed all of it due to it helping people like myself, the creationists. Stephen Hawking knew it because he either led that group or was part of the group of scientists who found them while studying the big bang.

Basically, nothing lasts 65 million years. Our common sense should tell us that rocks and fossils would not be around that long. Our planet would not be around that long. Our universe is churning into destruction.

Anyway, let's wait for the James Webb telescope to see what really is happening around us. We should learn more about our atmospheric conditions compared to other solar systems and galaxies. The science of atheism which you believe does not want to admit that we have the perfect location for life.

Not the thread for you.

It means you are wrong again practicing the science of atheism. Can I say you're playing with fire?

It's just called science. But if you want to call it the science of atheism because you have nothing else, I'm OK with that. More power to ya.

 

[ding]

Just because you don't examine things, doesn't make them irrational ... just because you won't listen, doesn't mean there's no definition of socialism ...

Maybe some day read you sig line ... just saying ...

Anyone or anything which defies or impedes or evades examination should raise a red flag. Usually they do so because they are afraid that the examination will show incongruities which they want to hide.

If you want to understand the basis for my beliefs on socialism, it's going to take a little effort on your part because something tells me you aren't going to take my word for it. I didn't pull it out of thin air or without good reason.

Alexander I. Solzhenitsyn -- A World Split Apart — Commencement Address Delivered At Harvard University, June 8, 1978

www.orthodoxytoday.org

The Socialist Phenomenon

The battle between individual and group rights appears to be the form the cosmic battle between good and evil has taken.

 

[Grumblenuts]

^(empathy threatens god-did-it-ism)

 

[ReinyDays]

Just because you don't examine things, doesn't make them irrational ... just because you won't listen, doesn't mean there's no definition of socialism ...

Maybe some day read you sig line ... just saying ...

Anyone or anything which defies or impedes or evades examination should raise a red flag. Usually they do so because they are afraid that the examination will show incongruities which they want to hide.

If you want to understand the basis for my beliefs on socialism, it's going to take a little effort on your part because something tells me you aren't going to take my word for it. I didn't pull it out of thin air or without good reason.

Alexander I. Solzhenitsyn -- A World Split Apart — Commencement Address Delivered At Harvard University, June 8, 1978

www.orthodoxytoday.org

The Socialist Phenomenon

The battle between individual and group rights appears to be the form the cosmic battle between good and evil has taken.

Social Security Administration
Bonneville Power Administration
Public School Systems

These agencies are subject to FOIA ... anything you want to know, just write them a letter ... just be prepared to pay 25¢ per page ...

IBM
Exxon
The Donald

These folks don't have to tell you squat ... nada ... nothing ...

It's CAPITALISM that denies examination ... how could you get this backwards? ... and then brag about it ...

Our entire judicial system in the United States is Socialism ... do you honestly think it's better for judges to rule in favor of who pays them the most? ... like before? ... this is one of the more important reasons we revolted against George III ...

Just say you won't collect one dime from SSA ... you won't buy power from the place the government commands you to ... obviously you don't take advantage of the free schools in your neighborhood ... one out of three is pretty good I guess ...

You should become a rental manager ... throwing infant children into snowbanks to freeze ... sounds like you'd enjoy that tasty bit of capitalism ... sounds like your good at math ... COLA's are announced to the public (socialism) ... calculate how much extra the tenants gets and raise rents that amount ... ha ha ha ... capitalism at its finest ... it's not the poor's money, it's YOUR money ... dig in ... trap the people, lock them in so deep they'll never be able to afford to move ... modern day serfdom ... a dozen people jacking a time clock just to give you 1/3 their pay ...

What's the difference between socialism and government service? ... not a damn thing ...