Is The Democrat Plan To Damage The Economy Working?

[busybee01]

It is more than just George Floyd. The police shoot a man 9 times in the back. Does it really take 9 shots? Then we have the Breanna Taylor case. The police did not knock as they claimed they did. A woman was killed because they did not. The AG lied to the grand jury. When you let the police get away with it then even legitimate cases are questioned. Police officers are responsible for this.

A neighbor supported the police account of their announcement. What have you got that "proves" they didn't knock?

12 people say they didn't knock. The one that did initially said they did not and changed his story. Put 1 witness on the stand and the defense puts on 12 who contradict him. Then ask him to explain why he changed his story.

 

[busybee01]

Why don't you shut up. No one is deliberately tanking the economy. They are trying to stop the spread of the coronavirus. Developers are moving towards housing for higher income people not more affordable housing. Worth noting that one of the things driving up the cost of housing are tariffs on Canadian lumber. Many people are paying a large part of their income for housing. What is worrisome is the rising number of layoffs. If state and local governments are forced to layoff people that means a higher unemployment rate and less revenue to the government.

Raising taxes on the poor and middle class will not lead to lower government spending. It will lead to more spending as individuals will need more help and more people will need help. Also the lack of affordable housing means that people have less money after paying for their housing. Your solutions are simple minded answers to complex problems.

Lower income people support new government anything since they don't have to pay for it--other people will. So to them, they could care less if we spent 20 trillion a year. It doesn't matter to them.

It would matter if they physically had to pay for all that spending, so of course they would be on the horn with their representatives telling them to cut it out, because they don't want to pay a higher consumption tax.

Yes, they are trying to destroy the economy, hence the OP. They are producing less because they have less people working. It's really pretty much common sense.

You just show how insane you are. Prime example of why Trump will lose.

 

[busybee01]

In answer to the title, no it's not working nearly as effectively as the democrats had hoped and planned it would. As usual their plan is basically backfiring and it's doing them more damage than it is their opposition.

I hope that's true and we find that out next month. Between the Democrats destroying the economy, allowing their cities to be destroyed, I can't understand how any rational person could see otherwise. Vote Republican to save our country.

Vote Republican to destroy the country.

 

[busybee01]

No, it's because unlike other countries, we have a Constitution that our representatives cannot violate. We are a free country where life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is guaranteed. Unlike other places, our government cannot force us to do anything.

Other G7 Countries are just as free as we are, and their police don't murder people in the street. They've ALL done better than we have.

Trump FAILED to show leadership in this crisis. Period. Full stop. He called it a hoax, he undermined people trying to solve the problem, he made wearing masks a cultural issue. His leadership has been a fucking disaster, and it shows.

I don't know why you people on the left figure you can lie by twisting facts and figures. Yes, you can do that with dumb Democrats, but not us Republicans. We do not have the most deaths. We are eight in deaths when it comes to per capita, meaning we are doing better than other countries.

Uh, the only countries that are doing "Worse" are third world countries or countries that are kind of small, like Belgium.

COVID-19 deaths per capita by country | Statista

COVID deaths worldwide were highest in Peru, topping a list that compares deaths per million in 210 countries worldwide.

www.statista.com

When it comes to the G7 Countries, we have 647 PM deaths, Worse than the UK (639), Italy (597), France (497) Canada (259) Germany (115), or Japan (statistically insignificant).

Also, other countries consider a Covid death when it was actually Covid that killed them. We don't. If you run into a wall at 100 mph, get killed, and tested positive for Covid, it's listed as a Covid death in the US.

Lie. I'm not sure why you think you can lie your way out of Trump's incompetence.

What Reagan did was get our economy going again and retarded our jobs moving overseas.

Actually, not really. Jobs moved overseas under Reagan. The only thing he did was encourage Japanese automakers to move some factories here.

The top 20% of wage earners in this country pay 80% of all collected income taxes. You can't tax them anymore because then it's not worth the risk for them to continue creating income.

The top 20% have 87% of the wealth... so they aren't paying anywhere NEAR their fair share. And income taxes aren't the only taxes collected.

See, this is why you leftists should never be in charge of the country. You'd destroy all of our jobs with your idiocy. Why do you think Slow Joe said he'd tax the rich, and when cornered on it, said he wouldn't? Same with Harris.

Actually, they were very clear that the RICH would pay more taxes, the rest of us won't. Anyone over $400,000. That works for me. If you are making $400,000 you can pay taxes.

Look, you guys said the same thing when Obama and Clinton made the rich pay more. "OH MY GOD, THE ECONOMY IS DOOMED!!!" The exact opposite happened. The economy boomed.

The last FIVE recessions happened when Republicans were in charge. You guys don't get to claim you know more about the economy.

No they are not. We are the only nation on earth that has a Constitution that protects the "people" from the "government." Other nations have constitutions that protect the government from the people. We are a transcontinental nation that you can fit three European continents into. We are a diverse nation of immigrants and with that comes a historical crime problem. Criminals kill people so our police often times use deadly force. George Floyd death was wrong use of force. The rest of the liberal media pushed uses of deadly force by law enforcement have been 100% justified because officers lives at risk. Democratic Socialist/ racist District Attorneys in urban areas bringing charges against police for extremist political reasons. Watch how many cases they lose. Grand Juries and Petit Juries are comprised of people with common sense. The exception being the dumb fucking O.J. jury.

It is more than just George Floyd. The police shoot a man 9 times in the back. Does it really take 9 shots? Then we have the Breanna Taylor case. The police did not knock as they claimed they did. A woman was killed because they did not. The AG lied to the grand jury. When you let the police get away with it then even legitimate cases are questioned. Police officers are responsible for this.

Seven times and Blake deserved every one of them for raping a woman. Taylor was a known associate of drug dealers and the police officers returned fire after one was shot first. Her boyfriend used her as a human shield. Anything else?

When was Blake convicted? There is no evidence that any of this is anything but the police lying to cover up their unlawful activities. The police officers refused to identify themselves. He had every right to fire. Even REPUBLICAN Tim Scott has stated he disagreed with the grand jury decision.

His ex wife called the police on him and he resisted arrest. They didn’t show up there for fun. If he doesn’t resist he doesn’t get shit. Release the grand jury docs. Taylor’s death while tragic has zero to do with racism. The KY AG is black. Spare me your outrage. It’s misplaced.

Bullshit. The fact is that no one knows who called the police. They are covering their ass. The KY AG shows that a black can be racist. A police officer is indicted because shots went into a apartment owned by a white family but nothing for the killing of Taylor. Even Sen Tim Scott has expressed his dismay at 6the decision. Cameron is either a racist or a crook. When Biden wins, there should be a civil rights investigation of the police. Cameron also needs to be investigated as to whether he obstructed justice when he lied to the grand jury about whether the police knocked.

 

[busybee01]

It is more than just George Floyd. The police shoot a man 9 times in the back. Does it really take 9 shots? Then we have the Breanna Taylor case. The police did not knock as they claimed they did. A woman was killed because they did not. The AG lied to the grand jury. When you let the police get away with it then even legitimate cases are questioned. Police officers are responsible for this.

A neighbor supported the police account of their announcement. What have you got that "proves" they didn't knock?

12 witnesses who said they didn't knock. The one person who did intially said they did not.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

No, it's because unlike other countries, we have a Constitution that our representatives cannot violate. We are a free country where life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is guaranteed. Unlike other places, our government cannot force us to do anything.

Other G7 Countries are just as free as we are, and their police don't murder people in the street. They've ALL done better than we have.

Trump FAILED to show leadership in this crisis. Period. Full stop. He called it a hoax, he undermined people trying to solve the problem, he made wearing masks a cultural issue. His leadership has been a fucking disaster, and it shows.

I don't know why you people on the left figure you can lie by twisting facts and figures. Yes, you can do that with dumb Democrats, but not us Republicans. We do not have the most deaths. We are eight in deaths when it comes to per capita, meaning we are doing better than other countries.

Uh, the only countries that are doing "Worse" are third world countries or countries that are kind of small, like Belgium.

COVID-19 deaths per capita by country | Statista

COVID deaths worldwide were highest in Peru, topping a list that compares deaths per million in 210 countries worldwide.

www.statista.com

When it comes to the G7 Countries, we have 647 PM deaths, Worse than the UK (639), Italy (597), France (497) Canada (259) Germany (115), or Japan (statistically insignificant).

Also, other countries consider a Covid death when it was actually Covid that killed them. We don't. If you run into a wall at 100 mph, get killed, and tested positive for Covid, it's listed as a Covid death in the US.

Lie. I'm not sure why you think you can lie your way out of Trump's incompetence.

What Reagan did was get our economy going again and retarded our jobs moving overseas.

Actually, not really. Jobs moved overseas under Reagan. The only thing he did was encourage Japanese automakers to move some factories here.

The top 20% of wage earners in this country pay 80% of all collected income taxes. You can't tax them anymore because then it's not worth the risk for them to continue creating income.

The top 20% have 87% of the wealth... so they aren't paying anywhere NEAR their fair share. And income taxes aren't the only taxes collected.

See, this is why you leftists should never be in charge of the country. You'd destroy all of our jobs with your idiocy. Why do you think Slow Joe said he'd tax the rich, and when cornered on it, said he wouldn't? Same with Harris.

Actually, they were very clear that the RICH would pay more taxes, the rest of us won't. Anyone over $400,000. That works for me. If you are making $400,000 you can pay taxes.

Look, you guys said the same thing when Obama and Clinton made the rich pay more. "OH MY GOD, THE ECONOMY IS DOOMED!!!" The exact opposite happened. The economy boomed.

The last FIVE recessions happened when Republicans were in charge. You guys don't get to claim you know more about the economy.

No they are not. We are the only nation on earth that has a Constitution that protects the "people" from the "government." Other nations have constitutions that protect the government from the people. We are a transcontinental nation that you can fit three European continents into. We are a diverse nation of immigrants and with that comes a historical crime problem. Criminals kill people so our police often times use deadly force. George Floyd death was wrong use of force. The rest of the liberal media pushed uses of deadly force by law enforcement have been 100% justified because officers lives at risk. Democratic Socialist/ racist District Attorneys in urban areas bringing charges against police for extremist political reasons. Watch how many cases they lose. Grand Juries and Petit Juries are comprised of people with common sense. The exception being the dumb fucking O.J. jury.

It is more than just George Floyd. The police shoot a man 9 times in the back. Does it really take 9 shots? Then we have the Breanna Taylor case. The police did not knock as they claimed they did. A woman was killed because they did not. The AG lied to the grand jury. When you let the police get away with it then even legitimate cases are questioned. Police officers are responsible for this.

Seven times and Blake deserved every one of them for raping a woman. Taylor was a known associate of drug dealers and the police officers returned fire after one was shot first. Her boyfriend used her as a human shield. Anything else?

When was Blake convicted? There is no evidence that any of this is anything but the police lying to cover up their unlawful activities. The police officers refused to identify themselves. He had every right to fire. Even REPUBLICAN Tim Scott has stated he disagreed with the grand jury decision.

His ex wife called the police on him and he resisted arrest. They didn’t show up there for fun. If he doesn’t resist he doesn’t get shit. Release the grand jury docs. Taylor’s death while tragic has zero to do with racism. The KY AG is black. Spare me your outrage. It’s misplaced.

Bullshit. The fact is that no one knows who called the police. They are covering their ass. The KY AG shows that a black can be racist. A police officer is indicted because shots went into a apartment owned by a white family but nothing for the killing of Taylor. Even Sen Tim Scott has expressed his dismay at 6the decision. Cameron is either a racist or a crook. When Biden wins, there should be a civil rights investigation of the police. Cameron also needs to be investigated as to whether he obstructed justice when he lied to the grand jury about whether the police knocked.

Yep. Careless shooting but the shooter shit first and shot a police officer. Sorry you cannot make your own facts. Civil rights were not violated.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It is more than just George Floyd. The police shoot a man 9 times in the back. Does it really take 9 shots? Then we have the Breanna Taylor case. The police did not knock as they claimed they did. A woman was killed because they did not. The AG lied to the grand jury. When you let the police get away with it then even legitimate cases are questioned. Police officers are responsible for this.

A neighbor supported the police account of their announcement. What have you got that "proves" they didn't knock?

12 witnesses who said they didn't knock. The one person who did intially said they did not.

I find it incredibly hard to believe 12 people were in the immediate area to testify to this. I mean, if police came busting into my apartment, about two or three people would actually hear it if that. Do you have a credible link to your claim?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Vote Republican to destroy the country.

Obviously you never read the Biden platform. Would you like me to give a list on what his devastating plans are for Americans?

 

[Issa]

Trump is the lokomotic of hate and stupidity he and his cult have to be crushed at all costs. I wasnt political at all 4 years ago. I actually never was. Trump and his base represent everything that is ugly in humanity.

I always wondered why you know so little about our politics.

I know more than you do and I'm not biased.
American system is old and has so many flaws that's what led to the divisiveness and chaos. A sham system that allow the worst candidates possible to be in charge as long as their donors are happy.
Dude trump is a president because of this system...you know how laughable this is? On daily basis most of my friends overseas, channels I watch in 3 different. Continents laugh their asses of at what he says and does every single damn day. And the saddest part is, you think he is the best god have created....I'm pulling my hair. And no it has nothing to do with my political views. I wouldnt care at all if it was Pence or any other Con.

 

[JoeB131]

Trump didn't decide we need ships, our military commanders and the Pentagon decided what we needed. Trump merely provided the funds to accomplish their goals. Don't tell me what we need. You have no idea.

Uh, only one of us is a veteran. I can tell you, the military wasted a shitload of money 40 years ago, and they still do now.

So let's look at it. This is US military spending compared to the rest of the world. We spend more then the next ten top countries combined, and EIGHT of those are allies.

Look at your chart again. Spending hasn't decreased in 35 years. However out of control spending took place under Bush, and much worse with DumBama. It's getting worse as we speak WITH a Democrat House.

Reducing the deficit is reducing spending.

No, it's not. We are spending the same amount or an increased amount, but we are taking in more money and BORROWING less.

No wonder you live in a slum.

Do you know how stupid that sounds? it's like saying your company cut you down from 45 hours to 30, so that's a good time to buy a brand new car or house.

Actually, what's stupid is your position. That we should borrow more and spend more. It's like giving an 18 year old a credit card...

Trump increased spending, and cut revenues.... and he's ballooned the debt. It's the same thing Bush-43 did, it's the same thing Reagan did.

Obama and Clinton made the rich pay their fair share. The deficits went down under their watches AND they improved the economy.

When I got into driving government basically left you alone. You seen a DOT cop once every couple of years unless you went over the road and crossed a lot of scales. In recent years, especially after 911, they are all over the place. Uncontrolled bureaucrats who have nothing better to do than pick their ass kept making more and more restrictions and regulations as time moved on. It got to the point where it got so strict I could no longer work.

And you should have anticipated where things were going and learned to do something else. That's my point.

IF they made things more strict, it was probably because someone who never should have been on the road caused a fatal accident.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Uh, only one of us is a veteran. I can tell you, the military wasted a shitload of money 40 years ago, and they still do now.

So let's look at it. This is US military spending compared to the rest of the world. We spend more then the next ten top countries combined, and EIGHT of those are allies.

Those allies are why we need a large military. We are the world police. If you don't want us to be the world police, then let somebody else be the police. Now think of the countries strong enough to take our place.

No, it's not. We are spending the same amount or an increased amount, but we are taking in more money and BORROWING less.

No wonder you live in a slum.

I live in a slum because of leftist policies like desegregation. I live in a slum because it's been under Democrat rule for decades. I live in a slum because of social engineering like HUD. It has nothing to do with spending.

Actually, what's stupid is your position. That we should borrow more and spend more. It's like giving an 18 year old a credit card...

You sure have a bad memory Joe. I said repeatedly we need to bring spending under control. If you don't believe me, try scrolling back and re-read for yourself.

Obama and Clinton made the rich pay their fair share. The deficits went down under their watches AND they improved the economy.

Clinton presided during our tech bubble and mostly under a Republican House who cut spending dramatically. DumBama presided mostly with a Republican House as well who cut spending. Anything else? All appropriation bills begin in the House.

And you should have anticipated where things were going and learned to do something else. That's my point.

IF they made things more strict, it was probably because someone who never should have been on the road caused a fatal accident.

Which is as stupid as saying because some people got drunk and killed other people in accidents, we should outlaw bars.

Nobody takes up two careers just in case. That's idiocy. Nobody switches careers because they can anticipate the federal government becoming yet more intrusive and stopping their career. Do you realize how dumb that sounds? I didn't do it, you didn't do it, and nobody does it. People who switch careers do so because they think there are better opportunities, or find something they like doing better. Not because they have a crystal ball and can determine their present career is going to be in jeopardy by Big Brother.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I know more than you do and I'm not biased.
American system is old and has so many flaws that's what led to the divisiveness and chaos. A sham system that allow the worst candidates possible to be in charge as long as their donors are happy.
Dude trump is a president because of this system...you know how laughable this is? On daily basis most of my friends overseas, channels I watch in 3 different. Continents laugh their asses of at what he says and does every single damn day. And the saddest part is, you think he is the best god have created....I'm pulling my hair. And no it has nothing to do with my political views. I wouldnt care at all if it was Pence or any other Con.

That's because you want a showman, not a leader. We want a leader which is why we chose Trump. We chose him because we Republicans too realize our politics is Fd up.

Liberals and perhaps people from your country choose people based on personality. We Americans on the right choose leaders based on their abilities and past record of performance. We choose people who will bring us success, not songs and dances.

And we were correct with our choice this time. Lowest unemployment in nearly 50 years before the China invasion, border problem under control and getting better with every mile of new wall built, stock market broke record highs multiple times, new high in median household income, lowest unemployment records for all minority groups and women since records were kept. We were doing wonderful. And when we eliminate this virus, Trump will bring us to good fortunes once again.

So let these third world countries laugh all they want. We'll be laughing all the way to the bank.

 

[Turtlesoup]

States run by Republican governors on average have economically outperformed states run by Democratic governors in recent months.

The difference in economic growth is likely due to the pathway of the coronavirus pandemic in the first few months and the economic restrictions imposed by Democratic governors.

Overall, Democratic-run states, particularly those in the Northeast and Midwest, had larger contractions in gross domestic product than Republican-run states in the Plains and the South, according to the latest state GDP data for the second quarter of 2020, released by the Commerce Department on Friday. Of the 20 states with the smallest decrease in state GDP, 13 were run by Republican governors, while the bottom 25 states with the highest decrease in state GDP were predominantly Democratic-run states.

Furthermore, the average unemployment rate across Republican states was 6.5% in August, compared to an average of 9% in Democrat states, according to an analysis of unemployment data by the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank.

There are multiple factors that lead to the split between the outcomes in Democratic and Republican states.

“The different economic shutdown policies and restrictions plays a big role,” said a senior economist in the Trump administration.

“But you also have to remember that in the second quarter, many Republican states hadn’t really been hit by the virus yet, like Texas, Arizona, and parts of Florida,” the official said. He said that Republican states were hit worse by the virus in the third quarter than the second, as the pandemic spread west and south.

“Also, the mix of industries in each state could also affect the economic growth, like Nevada, which is hugely dependent on travel and tourism,” the official added.

Red states are outperforming blue states economically - Washington Examiner

States run by Republican governors on average have economically outperformed states run by Democratic governors in recent months.The difference in economic growth is likely due to the pathway of the coronavirus pandemic in the first few months and the economic restrictions imposed by Democratic...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

In spite of our dropping unemployment rate, the Democrats are still trying to tug the other way hoping to maintain a bad economy up to election day. We on the right have insisted this has been their plot all along, but the left are convinced by their puppet masters their leaders are stalling the economy for their own good.

Now that we have some results to look at, and what Biden said in his own words that he's be willing to shutdown the country if necessary, we have to ask ourselves if we want the entire country to be managed like these low performing blue states.

If you are a Trump hater, you have to ask yourself before voting: Do you hate Trump more than you love our country, or is it the other way around?

Maybe there is a solution....

Leave it to the states to handle the economic fallout in their own state (without the red states having to bail out the blue states for their failures)...

Then watch the blue states implode from the budget shortfalls!!!

If you play, you pay!!!

Only downside is that Blue State people are now relocating themselves into Red states ---------------------bringing in their "culture" of obnoxious stupidity and voting habits with them.

 

[Turtlesoup]

It is more than just George Floyd. The police shoot a man 9 times in the back. Does it really take 9 shots? Then we have the Breanna Taylor case. The police did not knock as they claimed they did. A woman was killed because they did not. The AG lied to the grand jury. When you let the police get away with it then even legitimate cases are questioned. Police officers are responsible for this.

A neighbor supported the police account of their announcement. What have you got that "proves" they didn't knock?

12 people say they didn't knock. The one that did initially said they did not and changed his story. Put 1 witness on the stand and the defense puts on 12 who contradict him. Then ask him to explain why he changed his story.

Because it is inner city and criminal love culture---they lie all the time about cops (see Michael Brown where they lied in mass and then bullied anyone who didn't lie about the cops.)

 

[JoeB131]

Those allies are why we need a large military. We are the world police. If you don't want us to be the world police, then let somebody else be the police. Now think of the countries strong enough to take our place.

Why do we need a "World Police"? This isn't 1940, nobody is going to go blitzkreiging across someone else's borders. We have a bloated military budget and we have kids going to be hungry at night... The fact is, we got taken down by a virus, without a single shot being fired....

I live in a slum because of leftist policies like desegregation. I live in a slum because it's been under Democrat rule for decades. I live in a slum because of social engineering like HUD. It has nothing to do with spending.

Actually, it has to do with you be so poor with your money you couldn't move out of the slum. I used to live in a town called Cicero... It started turning into, well, not a slum, but much poorer when the Polish and Italian families started moving out and the Hispanic families started moving in.

You know what I did? I sold my house and I moved.... Mostly to be closer to work, but also because I really just didn't want to live in Cicero anymore.

You sure have a bad memory Joe. I said repeatedly we need to bring spending under control. If you don't believe me, try scrolling back and re-read for yourself.

It doesn't matter what you say, it matters what the people you vote for DO. Trump hasn't cut any spending. IN fact, he's spent at a level Obama would have LOVED to have spent at. Obama had a hard time getting a Trillion in Stimulus over three years. Trump's already spent 3 TRILLION on Stimulus just this year.... He's wasted a shitload of money on toys the Pentagon doesn't need.

Clinton presided during our tech bubble

Again, the economy in the 1990's was not based on everyone getting an AOL disc in the mail.

Which is as stupid as saying because some people got drunk and killed other people in accidents, we should outlaw bars.

No, not even close to the same... They determined that someone with your "I'm totally fine/I'm on death's door, please give me welfare" Syndrome can't operate a truck safely because other people with that syndrome had crashes that could have been avoided.

Nobody takes up two careers just in case. That's idiocy. Nobody switches careers because they can anticipate the federal government becoming yet more intrusive and stopping their career. Do you realize how dumb that sounds? I didn't do it, you didn't do it, and nobody does it.

Actually, I've done it twice in my career... The first time when I left the military, when I realized I wasn't going to be able to do the really physical stuff in my 40's, I made sure I got skills and additional education to do something else (Procurement/Logistics) in the civilian world. The Second Time when I built up a business because at some point, I wasn't going to want to punch a clock for the rest of my life.

Which is why I don't live in a slum, spying out the window, whining about my HUD neighbors.

People who switch careers do so because they think there are better opportunities, or find something they like doing better. Not because they have a crystal ball and can determine their present career is going to be in jeopardy by Big Brother.

So we should all pay for your short-sightedness? It seems you have no empathy for poor black people, who have it a LOT worse than you do, but you expect everyone to feel sorry for you.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Why do we need a "World Police"? This isn't 1940, nobody is going to go blitzkreiging across someone else's borders. We have a bloated military budget and we have kids going to be hungry at night... The fact is, we got taken down by a virus, without a single shot being fired....

We are the world police because we do have the strongest military in the world, and we are also the leader of the free world. In order to keep other countries free, we are obligated to come to their rescue if invaded.

If we don't do that, and aggressive nations like China, Russia, North Korea take over those free countries, we start losing ground in the event we do have another world war. Eventually, it will be us against the rest of the world because there will be no other free countries around to side up with.

Actually, it has to do with you be so poor with your money you couldn't move out of the slum. I used to live in a town called Cicero... It started turning into, well, not a slum, but much poorer when the Polish and Italian families started moving out and the Hispanic families started moving in.

You know what I did? I sold my house and I moved.... Mostly to be closer to work, but also because I really just didn't want to live in Cicero anymore.

Actually because you are a racist. Oh, those brown people are moving in so I better run! Well, that's what happened here to only with the blacks. All those leftist neighbors of mine that used to preach the word of inclusion were just like you, the first to run and hide.

I live here because this is where my business is. I need to be here. Plus the fact my elderly parents live here, the friends I grew up with, and other family members are here. I'm not selling out because all my tenants are great people, and I may consider that down the road if they ever leave.

I have the option of leaving, but who knows if the Democrats will target the new area I move into for destruction, just like they targeted this area years ago.

It doesn't matter what you say, it matters what the people you vote for DO. Trump hasn't cut any spending. IN fact, he's spent at a level Obama would have LOVED to have spent at. Obama had a hard time getting a Trillion in Stimulus over three years. Trump's already spent 3 TRILLION on Stimulus just this year.... He's wasted a shitload of money on toys the Pentagon doesn't need.

Ears never faced anything like this. No President in our lifetime has. He used the recession as a reason to spend on all his pet projects like taking care of his union people in the auto industry and public schools.

Unless you have a super majority, you can't get any budget passed. Trump wanted to give us on the right what he promised, but also had to continue funding for the left as well.

Again, the economy in the 1990's was not based on everyone getting an AOL disc in the mail.

The internet was booming. People were becoming millionaires overnight. Tens of thousands of Americans were starting their own web sites and businesses. That's not to mention the keen interest in cell phones which also started to grow. Computers and programs flying off the shelves.

No, not even close to the same... They determined that someone with your "I'm totally fine/I'm on death's door, please give me welfare" Syndrome can't operate a truck safely because other people with that syndrome had crashes that could have been avoided.

And yet I spent 30 years behind the wheel of big rigs without one accident in my name, one point against my license, and not one point on my CSA 2010. No, what happened is a bunch of board bureaucrats decided to get off their ass and do something destructive to Americans and the transportation industry.

Actually, I've done it twice in my career... The first time when I left the military, when I realized I wasn't going to be able to do the really physical stuff in my 40's, I made sure I got skills and additional education to do something else (Procurement/Logistics) in the civilian world. The Second Time when I built up a business because at some point, I wasn't going to want to punch a clock for the rest of my life.

First off, most people in the military stay for a while and leave. That's not a career change. That's like me saying I changed careers by leaving the medical field and getting into freight. It's still driving. It wasn't a career. I left to start a career in truck driving. Secondly, by your own admission, you never had a real second career. You went to school, got out, and when you found you couldn't get along with anybody, decided to leave, but you didn't change careers.

I did several different kinds of work in my life. General labor, bricklayers apprentice, music instructor, medical equipment driver, medical equipment repair technician, truck driver, landlord. However truck driving is my only real career.

Now if you told me you were in HVAC, remodeler, electrician or plumber and left to do what you dld, that's a career change. Very few people do that. You and I both chose a field of work and that's all we did.

So we should all pay for your short-sightedness? It seems you have no empathy for poor black people, who have it a LOT worse than you do, but you expect everyone to feel sorry for you.

I don't expect any such thing. When did I ever say people should feel sorry for me? I'm doing just fine. And nothing we've talked about had to do anything with race. Like always, you insert it into every conversation whenever possible.

I'm not doing well because of my race, I'm doing well because I planned ahead, even if something like this would happen. There isn't a minority in this country that couldn't have did what I did. We all went to school, we all got jobs, we all had the opportunity to invest, we all could have planned ahead. Tell me, what do I have that any other minority couldn't have?

 

[JoeB131]

We are the world police because we do have the strongest military in the world, and we are also the leader of the free world. In order to keep other countries free, we are obligated to come to their rescue if invaded.

Really? Because it seems most of our 'interventions" in the last 80 years have been to prop up corrupt dictatorships.

If we don't do that, and aggressive nations like China, Russia, North Korea take over those free countries, we start losing ground in the event we do have another world war. Eventually, it will be us against the rest of the world because there will be no other free countries around to side up with.

Uh, guy, get real. If another world war happens, the world ends.. Nukes made wars impractical on a large scale.

If it is us against the rest of the world, it's because Trump has made us an international pariah.

Actually because you are a racist. Oh, those brown people are moving in so I better run! Well, that's what happened here to only with the blacks. All those leftist neighbors of mine that used to preach the word of inclusion were just like you, the first to run and hide.

Actually, I left for a bunch of reasons. The Republican Town government was corrupt. (In fact, the Town president went to prison a year after I left.) My tenant moved to Kansas City, and I really didn't want to start with new tenants. The building was worth twice what I paid for it. My new job was 26 miles away at that point and I didn't want to drive that far every day. It was kind of a lot of things coming together, not just that gangs were overrunning the town. Funny thing- All this happened before Obama and his magic "let's move darkies into my nice neighborhood" you think exists. In fact, the town was taken to court by the first BUSH administration for discriminatory housing practices.

Ears never faced anything like this. No President in our lifetime has. He used the recession as a reason to spend on all his pet projects like taking care of his union people in the auto industry and public schools.

The Recession of 2008 was a LOT more severe than the one of 2020. The reason 2020 is so bad is because of Trump's gross mismanagement.

First off, most people in the military stay for a while and leave. That's not a career change.

It is if you have already spent 11 years in and the Army sent you to several schools... which they did in my case.

Secondly, by your own admission, you never had a real second career. You went to school, got out, and when you found you couldn't get along with anybody, decided to leave, but you didn't change careers.

No, I decided that I really could make more money writing resumes than pushing paper across a desk. But that involved building a business, advertising it, developing a reputation, etc.

I don't expect any such thing. When did I ever say people should feel sorry for me? I'm doing just fine.

But you are on here constantly whining about your neighbors, your job situation, how the government is mean to you.

I'm not doing well because of my race, I'm doing well because I planned ahead, even if something like this would happen.

Guy, going on the Dole isn't a plan. Well, I guess in your case it is, Welfare Ray.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Uh, guy, get real. If another world war happens, the world ends.. Nukes made wars impractical on a large scale.

If it is us against the rest of the world, it's because Trump has made us an international pariah.

Actually, I left for a bunch of reasons. The Republican Town government was corrupt. (In fact, the Town president went to prison a year after I left.) My tenant moved to Kansas City, and I really didn't want to start with new tenants. The building was worth twice what I paid for it. My new job was 26 miles away at that point and I didn't want to drive that far every day. It was kind of a lot of things coming together, not just that gangs were overrunning the town. Funny thing- All this happened before Obama and his magic "let's move darkies into my nice neighborhood" you think exists. In fact, the town was taken to court by the first BUSH administration for discriminatory housing practices.

Yeah, you left for a bunch of reasons but only brought up the Hispanics moving in. We have areas of sizable Hispanic population here from PR. No problems at all. I've worked with them, been in many of their homes, wonderful people. An occasional troublemaker like any other group of people, but not really different than anybody else.

The Recession of 2008 was a LOT more severe than the one of 2020. The reason 2020 is so bad is because of Trump's gross mismanagement.

A lot worse? You have to be kidding me. No recession in our lifetime was worse. Trump managed to keep the country on life support through this crisis. Stock market recovered, new housing starts up, lowest GDP damage of all G7 countries. Thank God Hillary wasn't President in all this.

No, I decided that I really could make more money writing resumes than pushing paper across a desk. But that involved building a business, advertising it, developing a reputation, etc.

But you didn't get any training for a new job. That's the point. You said it yourself. You are pushing papers at home instead of pushing papers for somebody else. Yeah, big career change. That's like saying I made a career change by becoming a landlord. I have to advertise, build up my business, make this an attractive rent for good people. Big deal.

But you are on here constantly whining about your neighbors, your job situation, how the government is mean to you.

Yes I am. Blame the people that bring you harm. However I'm happy. I can take better care of this place, have plenty of free time on my hands, can help out my elderly parents when need be, wake up at 9:00 or 10:00 in most cases. Just wonderful. Oh! And did you read the news lately? I'm getting a raise next year. Average 20 bucks a month, but hey, 20 bucks is 20 bucks. Tax free too!!

Guy, going on the Dole isn't a plan. Well, I guess in your case it is, Welfare Ray.

Yes, it was promised to me while working if I ended up in this situation. So of course it was a back up plan. However I wouldn't have been able to make it on that alone, that's why I made investments in real estate and planned for this. Plus when this virus is behind us, I can still work part-time if I can find something I can do at this age.

When you rant about me being on disability, you not only greatly expose how bad of an OCD problem you have, but also expose how much of a hypocrite you are. You commies are always promoting social programs, but when a political adversary actually uses one they paid into all of their lives, you are outraged. We weren't supposed to use any backup social program, that's only for Democrats. We Republicans are only supposed to pay for them. They are not there for people on the right who need them, they're for HUD people who have kids they could never afford and then only work part-time.

You leftists are such hypocrites it's almost laughable if not so pathetic.

 

[busybee01]

No, it's because unlike other countries, we have a Constitution that our representatives cannot violate. We are a free country where life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is guaranteed. Unlike other places, our government cannot force us to do anything.

Other G7 Countries are just as free as we are, and their police don't murder people in the street. They've ALL done better than we have.

Trump FAILED to show leadership in this crisis. Period. Full stop. He called it a hoax, he undermined people trying to solve the problem, he made wearing masks a cultural issue. His leadership has been a fucking disaster, and it shows.

I don't know why you people on the left figure you can lie by twisting facts and figures. Yes, you can do that with dumb Democrats, but not us Republicans. We do not have the most deaths. We are eight in deaths when it comes to per capita, meaning we are doing better than other countries.

Uh, the only countries that are doing "Worse" are third world countries or countries that are kind of small, like Belgium.

COVID-19 deaths per capita by country | Statista

COVID deaths worldwide were highest in Peru, topping a list that compares deaths per million in 210 countries worldwide.

www.statista.com

When it comes to the G7 Countries, we have 647 PM deaths, Worse than the UK (639), Italy (597), France (497) Canada (259) Germany (115), or Japan (statistically insignificant).

Also, other countries consider a Covid death when it was actually Covid that killed them. We don't. If you run into a wall at 100 mph, get killed, and tested positive for Covid, it's listed as a Covid death in the US.

Lie. I'm not sure why you think you can lie your way out of Trump's incompetence.

What Reagan did was get our economy going again and retarded our jobs moving overseas.

Actually, not really. Jobs moved overseas under Reagan. The only thing he did was encourage Japanese automakers to move some factories here.

The top 20% of wage earners in this country pay 80% of all collected income taxes. You can't tax them anymore because then it's not worth the risk for them to continue creating income.

The top 20% have 87% of the wealth... so they aren't paying anywhere NEAR their fair share. And income taxes aren't the only taxes collected.

See, this is why you leftists should never be in charge of the country. You'd destroy all of our jobs with your idiocy. Why do you think Slow Joe said he'd tax the rich, and when cornered on it, said he wouldn't? Same with Harris.

Actually, they were very clear that the RICH would pay more taxes, the rest of us won't. Anyone over $400,000. That works for me. If you are making $400,000 you can pay taxes.

Look, you guys said the same thing when Obama and Clinton made the rich pay more. "OH MY GOD, THE ECONOMY IS DOOMED!!!" The exact opposite happened. The economy boomed.

The last FIVE recessions happened when Republicans were in charge. You guys don't get to claim you know more about the economy.

No they are not. We are the only nation on earth that has a Constitution that protects the "people" from the "government." Other nations have constitutions that protect the government from the people. We are a transcontinental nation that you can fit three European continents into. We are a diverse nation of immigrants and with that comes a historical crime problem. Criminals kill people so our police often times use deadly force. George Floyd death was wrong use of force. The rest of the liberal media pushed uses of deadly force by law enforcement have been 100% justified because officers lives at risk. Democratic Socialist/ racist District Attorneys in urban areas bringing charges against police for extremist political reasons. Watch how many cases they lose. Grand Juries and Petit Juries are comprised of people with common sense. The exception being the dumb fucking O.J. jury.

It is more than just George Floyd. The police shoot a man 9 times in the back. Does it really take 9 shots? Then we have the Breanna Taylor case. The police did not knock as they claimed they did. A woman was killed because they did not. The AG lied to the grand jury. When you let the police get away with it then even legitimate cases are questioned. Police officers are responsible for this.

Seven times and Blake deserved every one of them for raping a woman. Taylor was a known associate of drug dealers and the police officers returned fire after one was shot first. Her boyfriend used her as a human shield. Anything else?

When was Blake convicted? There is no evidence that any of this is anything but the police lying to cover up their unlawful activities. The police officers refused to identify themselves. He had every right to fire. Even REPUBLICAN Tim Scott has stated he disagreed with the grand jury decision.

His ex wife called the police on him and he resisted arrest. They didn’t show up there for fun. If he doesn’t resist he doesn’t get shit. Release the grand jury docs. Taylor’s death while tragic has zero to do with racism. The KY AG is black. Spare me your outrage. It’s misplaced.

Bullshit. The fact is that no one knows who called the police. They are covering their ass. The KY AG shows that a black can be racist. A police officer is indicted because shots went into a apartment owned by a white family but nothing for the killing of Taylor. Even Sen Tim Scott has expressed his dismay at 6the decision. Cameron is either a racist or a crook. When Biden wins, there should be a civil rights investigation of the police. Cameron also needs to be investigated as to whether he obstructed justice when he lied to the grand jury about whether the police knocked.

Yep. Careless shooting but the shooter shit first and shot a police officer. Sorry you cannot make your own facts. Civil rights were not violated.

The shooter had every right to defend himself from unknown assailants. The ballistics report cannot prove whether the officer was shot by the individual defending himself or the police officers whose indiscriminate shots killed Taylor.

 

[busybee01]

I know more than you do and I'm not biased.
American system is old and has so many flaws that's what led to the divisiveness and chaos. A sham system that allow the worst candidates possible to be in charge as long as their donors are happy.
Dude trump is a president because of this system...you know how laughable this is? On daily basis most of my friends overseas, channels I watch in 3 different. Continents laugh their asses of at what he says and does every single damn day. And the saddest part is, you think he is the best god have created....I'm pulling my hair. And no it has nothing to do with my political views. I wouldnt care at all if it was Pence or any other Con.

That's because you want a showman, not a leader. We want a leader which is why we chose Trump. We chose him because we Republicans too realize our politics is Fd up.

Liberals and perhaps people from your country choose people based on personality. We Americans on the right choose leaders based on their abilities and past record of performance. We choose people who will bring us success, not songs and dances.

And we were correct with our choice this time. Lowest unemployment in nearly 50 years before the China invasion, border problem under control and getting better with every mile of new wall built, stock market broke record highs multiple times, new high in median household income, lowest unemployment records for all minority groups and women since records were kept. We were doing wonderful. And when we eliminate this virus, Trump will bring us to good fortunes once again.

So let these third world countries laugh all they want. We'll be laughing all the way to the bank.

Donald Trump is the dumbest President we have had. Many people who voted for him in 2016 admit they were wrong. That he is not a good leader.