Is Roe v. Wade "widely accepted by legal scholars as settled law"...What is "widely accepted"?

[Lesh]

One stark indication of the prevalence of illegal abortion was the death toll. In 1930, abortion was listed as the official cause of death for almost 2,700 women—nearly one-fifth (18%) of maternal deaths recorded in that year. The death toll had declined to just under 1,700 by 1940, and to just over 300 by 1950 (most likely because of the introduction of antibiotics in the 1940s, which permitted more effective treatment of the infections that frequently developed after illegal abortion). By 1965, the number of deaths due to illegal abortion had fallen to just under 200, but illegal abortion still accounted for 17% of all deaths attributed to pregnancy and childbirth that year. And these are just the number that were officially reported; the actual number was likely much higher.

Poor women and their families were disproportionately impacted. A study of low-income women in New York City in the 1960s found that almost one in 10 (8%) had ever attempted to terminate a pregnancy by illegal abortion; almost four in 10 (38%) said that a friend, relative or acquaintance had attempted to obtain an abortion. Of the low-income women in that study who said they had had an abortion, eight in 10 (77%) said that they had attempted a self-induced procedure, with only 2% saying that a physician had been involved in any way.

These women paid a steep price for illegal procedures. In 1962 alone, nearly 1,600 women were admitted to Harlem Hospital Center in New York City for incomplete abortions, which was one abortion-related hospital admission for every 42 deliveries at that hospital that year. In 1968, the University of Southern California Los Angeles County Medical Center, another large public facility serving primarily indigent patients, admitted 701 women with septic abortions, one admission for every 14 deliveries.

 

[EasyPeasy]

The country is not ready or willing to absorb 750,000 more babies a year.

Wow, just wow. I think this here just about sums it all up.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The country is not ready or willing to absorb 750,000 more babies a year.

Wow, just wow. I think this here just about sums it all up.

It is a cold hard truth, but it is the truth none the less.

 

[healthmyths]

Here come the anti-abortion freaks.

Make no mistake.

This IS an attack on choice.

They would outlaw any and all abortions and take us back to the 1950s and back alley abortions (well not for the rich...they always "go on vacation"

So you are defending the right of women to have sexual gratification at the PRICE of a human life?
Wow... sex must be very important to you.

I guess the man she had that sexual gratification with didn't.

Women don't get pregnant alone.

Why are you only condemning women for their choices?

Why aren't you condemning men for their sexual gratification?

Why don't you have a problem with men who create a pregnancy then just walk away without even looking back to see what he has done?

Why don't you have a problem with men who deny their own flesh and blood?

Why don't you have a problem with men who cause pregnancies then just walk away from their own flesh and blood?

All you're doing is attacking women. Which tells me you really don't care anything about any pregnancies. If you did you would include men in your attacks. All you care about is being holier than thou and attack women.

Women don't get pregnant alone but apparently you believe so.

There is no argument regarding it takes a man to be responsible.
BUT ultimately the woman is the one that gets the abortion.
And as I've pointed out I'm not against abortions for rape, incest, health of the mother (which can include the mental capabilities to raise child).
But the woman that has as nearly 44% of abortions are to women that had made the same mistake at least 2 times or more?
Come on that's NOT the man's fault. That's the woman's fault.
She evidently doesn't LEARN from the first time. Doesn't care. Or some other reason to have multiple abortions!
With these women's careless actions it seems that sterilization or tube tying would be their better solution all around...health wise as abortions ARE dangerous!

 

[healthmyths]

Kavanaugh advised against calling Roe v. Wade ‘settled law’ while a White House lawyer

And yet yesterday Kavanaugh testified that Roe V. Wade is indeed settled law.

Imagine that!

This is clearly a guy who decides things based on his audience rather than the law.

No he didn't say it was. He disputed the claim that it was "widely accepted by legal scholars"... HE didn't say he accepted or didn't because he used Kagan's tactics she employed in her confirmation hearings.

 

[DOTR]

Here come the anti-abortion freaks.

Make no mistake.

This IS an attack on choice.

They would outlaw any and all abortions and take us back to the 1950s and back alley abortions (well not for the rich...they always "go on vacation"

Like I said.

They're not even trying to hide it

And don’t you forget it. Right out in the open.
Funny though that you would act surprised that anti-abortion groups and parties are...anti-abortion? We have elected a party to office numerous times since 1992 which had this principle enshrined in its party platform.

 

[DOTR]

They're not even trying to hide it

“"We assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed."
Republican Platform

Will you look at that. Right out there in the open. No attempt to “hide” it. Once again the American people have given the government, in open elections, to a party which quite publically seeks to outlaw abortion.
Looks like that’s what we Americans want to happen right?

 

[task0778]

Here's the basic issue: abortion is all about a woman's right to choose, or so the Left says. But the unborn child doesn't have that same right, and morally some people have a problem with that. We can make exceptions, like when the mother's life is in peril or in cases of rape and incest, although one can make an argument that the circumstances of the baby's conception are not is/her fault. Some might even say that something good can come out of something bad.

 

[Lesh]

"We assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed."
Republican Platform

Will you look at that. Right out there in the open. No attempt to “hide” it. Once again the American people have given the government, in open elections, to a party which quite publically seeks to outlaw abortion.
Looks like that’s what we Americans want to happen right?

You're making my point for me.

Outlawing abortion IS where this GOP Party is going. Thanks for th admission.
And polls show the American people are NOT with you on that issue.

The anti-abortion freaks are but that's ....different

Very few people ever read party platforms and even fewer believe they will be carried out

 

[DOTR]

"We assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed."
Republican Platform

Will you look at that. Right out there in the open. No attempt to “hide” it. Once again the American people have given the government, in open elections, to a party which quite publically seeks to outlaw abortion.
Looks like that’s what we Americans want to happen right?

You're making my point for me.

Outlawing abortion IS where this GOP Party is going. Thanks for th admission.
And polls show the American people are NOT with you on that issue.

The anti-abortion freaks are but that's ....different

Very few people ever read party platforms and even fewer believe they will be carried out

Thanks for the admission? Lol. Are you in Booker/Spartacus mode? It’s in the platform!

 

[DOTR]

“Thanks for the admission “?


Donald Trump on abortion.



Mike Pence on abortion.

 

[DOTR]

Are you the only liberal in America who didn’t know Republicans oppose abortion?

 

[Lesh]

Exactly what I have been saying right along.

The GOP is committed to overturning Roe and Republican operative Kavanaugh on the SC would be a step toward making that happen

 

[Markle]

The country is not ready or willing to absorb 750,000 more babies a year.

So it's other peoples fault that they got pregnant. How does that work?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The country is not ready or willing to absorb 750,000 more babies a year.

So it's other peoples fault that they got pregnant. How does that work?

That is not what I said at all, but thanks for trying. E for effort

 

[Markle]

The country is not ready or willing to absorb 750,000 more babies a year.

Stop illegal immigration and it's a wash.

 

[Markle]

Are you the only liberal in America who didn’t know Republicans oppose abortion?

Not true.

As a Conservative, I, and most of us disapprove of abortion overall. We oppose using it as a method of birth-control or today, a child that may not be perfect or the "right" sex.

 

[Markle]

Here come the anti-abortion freaks.

Make no mistake.

This IS an attack on choice.

They would outlaw any and all abortions and take us back to the 1950s and back alley abortions (well not for the rich...they always "go on vacation"

That's just plain malarkey.

 

[Markle]

Kavanaugh advised against calling Roe v. Wade ‘settled law’ while a White House lawyer
“it is widely accepted by legal scholars across the board that Roe v. Wade and its progeny are the settled law of the land,”
Kavanaugh advised against calling Roe v. Wade ‘settled law’ while a White House lawyer

This is one of arguments defending Roe v. Wade that all legal scholars accept it and it can't be changed.

BUT

Most people in favor of Roe v. Wade are NOT aware of these statistics:

Of the 36,649,884 DEATHS since Roe v. Wade:

• 36.6% were performed on women with one or two prior abortions, and
• 8.1% were performed on women with three or more prior abortions (CDC).

44.7% or nearly half by women are either stupid, definitely don't use birth control continue to act as pre-meditated murders at that point.

U.S. Abortion Statistics

Think about it.
Most Americans like me do believe an abortion is right in the case of:
1) Rape
2) Incest
3) Mother's health.

BUT in the above statistics nearly half or almost 18 million lives snuffed out because the woman was either:

1. too uninformed to know about contraceptives
2. Too lazy to do anything about protection.
3. And all evidently WILLING partners to a few moments satisfaction that costs lives.

Why is it OK that these 44.7% women can get their sexual satisfaction at the price of a life?

What is the difference between

• the Romans watching people being eaten by lions for satisfaction?
• the Nazis killing people for information?

and women that are getting a few moments of satisfaction at the price of a life?

Your stats are bullshit. 75% of pregnancies end in a natural "death" or abortion before the woman even knows she's pregnant.

Fucking hell God is a mother fucker, hey?

Please show us all your reliable source and link to that allegation.

 

[Markle]

Here come the anti-abortion freaks.

Make no mistake.

This IS an attack on choice.

They would outlaw any and all abortions and take us back to the 1950s and back alley abortions (well not for the rich...they always "go on vacation"

So you are defending the right of women to have sexual gratification at the PRICE of a human life?
Wow... sex must be very important to you.

Sex is very important to our overall health.

Much more important is PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.