Is it time ti finish off Iran?

[westwall]

You see, I’m not just an American—I’m a Russian-American. My grandfathers helped build the Soviet Union and fought for it; one of them died in 1942. The one who survived helped rebuild the devastated country and, together with my parents, built a new life.

That’s why russian history is very close to my heart. For decades, I’ve read memoirs, historical materials, and research—by various authors, both pro-soviet and anti-soviet. Based on this and on my own life experience, I draw my own conclusions.

You, like the vast majority of americans, at best read the headlines of anti-soviet articles in newspapers—or rather, you didn’t even read them, you just heard those headlines on TV.
And that was enough for you, like any american with a swollen ego, to convince yourself that you had grasped the truth.
You haven’t.

I have traveled Russia extensively. The Russian people are good, hardworking folks, their leadership is horrible.

And it has been that way for most of its history.

 

[Ringo]

And it has been that way for most of its history.

Oh, please don't get me started on beautiful american presidents, nearly half of whom, for starters, were either slave owners or racists...

 

[westwall]

Oh, please don't get me started on beautiful american presidents, nearly half of whom, for starters, were either slave owners or racists...

As opposed to Ivan the Terrible. Or Stalin, or pootin.

You're a retard. If russia is so great why don't you live there?

 

[Ringo]

 

[Ringo]

As opposed to Ivan the Terrible. Or Stalin, or pootin.
If russia is so great why don't you live there?

First of all, I live there. Six or seven million americans live abroad permanently. Living in Russia is cheaper and safer, especially for retirees.

Second, the name “Ivan the Terrible,” as cited in european historiography for the Russian Tsar Ivan IV, is a mistranslation, naturally intended for propaganda and russophobic purposes. "Grozny" means “stern” or “resolute”; the word derives from “groza” (thunderstorm). This is similar to the name of god Jupiter as the Thunderer. But it is by no means “Terrible”—not even close.

Third, the USSR, under Comrade Stalin’s leadership, saved the world from the brown nazi plague. It’s no surprise that Western pedophiles with their SS grandfathers feel no gratitude for this.

 

[Zavulon]

Oh? You didn't invade Finland,

No. They've attacked us first. Read something about Mainila incident.

you didn't invade Mongolia,

No. They invited us to hep fight Japanese.

you didn't attack czechoslovakia

No. We just helped legal government to calm down civil unrests.

or Hungary when they tried to go independent?

We were invited by the legal government to supress civil unrests.

Any other examples of "Russian aggression"?

Maybe your history is a little myopic.

Or, may be, your view is biased.

But your biggest victims have been your own people.

As if the biggest victims of American regime are not American citizen.

You've killed more of your own citizens than the Germans ever could. And by a huge margin.

And you've killed much more of your own citizens than all foreigners toghether And no, significant part of responsibility for victims of the Revolution, Civil war and Collectivisation should be laid on foreigners, too.

Face it, you people just love murdering those who disagree with you.

We are human beings, as everyone else. And as all human beings we enjoy killing our enemies, at least because it makes us feel safer.

 

[westwall]

First of all, I live there. Six or seven million americans live abroad permanently. Living in Russia is cheaper and safer, especially for retirees.

Second, the name “Ivan the Terrible,” as cited in european historiography for the Russian Tsar Ivan IV, is a mistranslation, naturally intended for propaganda and russophobic purposes. "Grozny" means “stern” or “resolute”; the word derives from “groza” (thunderstorm). This is similar to the name of god Jupiter as the Thunderer. But it is by no means “Terrible”—not even close.

Third, the USSR, under Comrade Stalin’s leadership, saved the world from the brown nazi plague. It’s no surprise that Western pedophiles with their SS grandfathers feel no gratitude for this.

Stalin murdered 65 million RUSSIANS. And russia was only able to survive the German attack because we gave them millions of tons of food, ammunition, and hundreds of thousands of trucks, and tanks and aircraft.

Stalin was a murderous piece of shit.

 

[westwall]

No. They've attacked us first. Read something about Mainila incident.


No. They invited us to hep fight Japanese.


No. We just helped legal government to calm down civil unrests.


We were invited by the legal government to supress civil unrests.

Any other examples of "Russian aggression"?


Or, may be, your view is biased.

As if the biggest victims of American regime are not American citizen.


And you've killed much more of your own citizens than all foreigners toghether And no, significant part of responsibility for victims of the Revolution, Civil war and Collectivisation should be laid on foreigners, too.


We are human beings, as everyone else. And as all human beings we enjoy killing our enemies, at least because it makes us feel safer.

Your propaganda is amusing. Especially the BS about Mongolia. After you destroyed the Mongolian government your assholes went so far as to destroy a totem that had hair belonging to Genghis Khan so that the Mongolians wouldn't have an item to rally around.

You should visit the museum in Ulan Bator, it will open your eyes to the real history of the Soviet invasion of Mongolia.

Of course, that would also require you to be honest.

I doubt you're capable of that.

 

[Zavulon]

I have traveled Russia extensively. The Russian people are good, hardworking folks, their leadership is horrible.

And it has been that way for most of its history.

I've been to America few times, and Americans are nice and cute. Even American Evangelists (despite their wierdness). They just shouldn't have access to the button.

 

[Ringo]

Stalin murdered 65 million RUSSIANS.

No one needs any more proof that you're an idiot. Sorry for trying to bring some order to your brain. Stay an idiot. It's less stressful that way.

 

[EMH]

I vote YES.

They need to be utterly destroyed.

Should you be deported to Israel.

I vote YES!!!

 

[Ringo]

Even American Evangelists (despite their wierdness).

Oh, you have no idea! Some of the dance with snakes in church...

 

[Zavulon]

Stalin murdered 65 million RUSSIANS. And russia was only able to survive the German attack because we gave them millions of tons of food, ammunition, and hundreds of thousands of trucks, and tanks and aircraft.

C'mon. All your help was about $20Bn. Lesser than $200Bn in modern dollars. And only Biden gave to Ukraine more than $300Bn. It didn't and couldn't save Ukraine.
Your help was useful, thank you very much, but definitely not decisive. And no, 65 million of Russians killed personally by Stalin is BS.

Stalin was a murderous piece of shit.

He saved more than killed. That's the whole point of being leader.

 

[eagle1462010]

Should you be deported to Israel.

I vote YES!!!

Make me *****

 

[westwall]

C'mon. All your help was about $20Bn. Lesser than $200Bn in modern dollars. And only Biden gave to Ukraine more than $300Bn. It didn't and couldn't save Ukraine.
Your help was useful, thank you very much, but definitely not decisive. And no, 65 million of Russians killed personally by Stalin is BS.


He saved more than killed. That's the whole point of being leader.

Yet another ridiculous claim. Stalin saved no one.

 

[EMH]

Make me *****

Thread 'Introducing the "Ilhan Omar Act"'

Aug 10, 2024

We need an "Ilhan Omar Act" right now.

Ms. Omar clearly stated she cares more about Somalia than America.

Ilhan Omar Brags About Advancing a Somalia First Agenda in Congress

Every day, up to 5,000 prospective “asylum-seekers” cross America’s porous southern border, a growing crisis that has existed since Joe Biden became president and acted on his campaign call for foreign nationals to “surge to the border.” A question Americans should be asking is: How many of them...

www.heritage.org

This is what the Ilhan Omar Act would state...


If you are convicted of articulating that you care more about another country than the United States, you are DEPORTED TO THAT COUNTRY.



This way, Ms. Omar would be punted back to Somalia....

and ALL SUBS would be deported to ISRAEL.


And THAT would truly MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!!

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[Zavulon]

Yet another ridiculous claim. Stalin saved no one.

He won the war. And saved everyone.

 

[westwall]

He won the war. And saved everyone.

Sure he did. And he loved puppies too.

 

[Ringo]

And the Western media lies every time it opens its mouth. You know this, in principle

 

[Matted Joybeard]

I don't think you guy's tiny flashlights are up to the task of finishing off Iran.