Thoughts on Trump and Iran.

[kyzr]

I agree. We should be funding a guerilla movement Cold War style. Hegseth sold Trump on a bill of goods.

No one "sells" Trump. He listens to everyone, especially General Caine.

 

[Zincwarrior]

OK, combat not a "major war"

COmbat is war.

To get them to stop developing nukes and ICBMs.

but you just said they don't dare. Who are we doing this for then?

No one "sells" Trump. He listens to everyone, especially General Caine.

True, he sells out everyone else.

 

[schmidlap]

What will this war with Iran really accomplish? Doesn't look like a new regime with a different system of gov't is gonna happen, the names may change but their objectives won't. Different people, same shit. So, where's the gain for us? Are we fighting a war so gas is cheaper? Is there an existential threat to us? Maybe it is, and quite frankly I wouldn't believe Trump if he said it was. But OTOH, I can't say it won't one day become one.

So, are we going to fight a war to prevent a future catastrophe? Don't say it couldn't happen, one day a terrorist group floats a boat(s) with dirty bombs built by Iran into a US harbor somewhere and a whole lot of people die? But will this war prevent that? I doubt it.

Trump has already dumped his Strait of Hormuz disaster on former allies.

They don't like it.

Italy denies US use of air base en route to Middle East​

Trump had already suspected Italy of a conspiring against him:

‘Italygate,’ the Craziest Election Conspiracy Yet​

 

[kyzr]

but you just said they don't dare. Who are we doing this for then?

Iran can develop nukes, but they will get bombed again.

True, he sells out everyone else.

Link?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Iran can develop nukes, but they will get bombed again.

Link?

Everything he has ever done.dozens of bankruptcies. Thousands of suits. The Kurds. Afghanistan. Remember when he tried to get his Vice President killed?

 

[schmidlap]

Everything he has ever done.dozens of bankruptcies. Thousands of suits. The Kurds. Afghanistan. Remember when he tried to get his Vice President killed?

He needs to cut n' run from his "little excursion", and leave his mess for others to clean up

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“We have had regime change now. Regime change was not one of the things I had as a goal. I had one goal. They will have no nuclear weapon, and that goal has been attained. They will not have nuclear weapons,” Trump said.​

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The same Islamist regime is still in power, and Don the Conqueror failed to secure Iran's nuclear materials.

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Iran has amassed approximately 441 kilograms of uranium enriched to 60% U-235, a level close to weapons-grade, along with additional stocks enriched to 20% and 5%. This material is sufficient, if further enriched, to produce multiple nuclear weapons.​

 

[Zincwarrior]

He needs to cut n' run from his "little excursion", and leave his mess for others to clean up

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“We have had regime change now. Regime change was not one of the things I had as a goal. I had one goal. They will have no nuclear weapon, and that goal has been attained. They will not have nuclear weapons,” Trump said.​

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The same Islamist regime is still in power, and Don the Conqueror failed to secure Iran's nuclear materials.​

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Iran has amassed approximately 441 kilograms of uranium enriched to 60% U-235, a level close to weapons-grade, along with additional stocks enriched to 20% and 5%. This material is sufficient, if further enriched, to produce multiple nuclear weapons.​

Thats what he is doing. I wonder if he will abandon the Saudis though. They gave his family billions and can pull that money back out.

 

[schmidlap]

Thats what he is doing. I wonder if he will abandon the Saudis though. They gave his family billions and can pull that money back out.

He risks being removed from their dance card.​

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There goes the gala opening of his ballroom.​

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... But leaving the status of the strait undetermined — especially with Tehran demanding sovereignty over the waterway as part of a deal — would do little to prevent future volatility in the global economy. Brent has surged around 60% in March, since the war began, and US gasoline topped $4 a gallon for the first time since 2022. ​

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Taken together, the developments suggest that the war Trump started with Israel is no longer solely in his control. That also poses a political risk for the president, who campaigned on not starting any new wars and whose Republican Party faces the prospect of losing control of Congress in the November midterm elections.​

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Even so, it’s the economic pain caused by the war that is the primary concern weighing on the White House as top officials are increasingly worried about the peril that it poses for GOP lawmakers running for reelection, one of the people said​

MSN

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[frigidweirdo]

I think that Iran is like Nazi Germany. Its ideology must be stamped out. Trump is the only American President brave enough to do it.

So, any country who you disagree with should be stamped out?

You know Iran isn't even the craziest country. Quite a few other crazy countries.

But they don't have oil, so you won't know who they are, won't care about getting rid of them.

 

[kyzr]

Everything he has ever done, dozens of bankruptcies. Thousands of suits. The Kurds. Afghanistan. Remember when he tried to get his Vice President killed?

Declaring bankruptcy is not usual in business. Lawsuits are legal, courts should be fair. The Kurds got oil fields for helping with ISIS, they are prospering, and would help us against Iran. AFG was winding down until Biden f'd it up. J6 was a mostly peaceful protest for a stolen election. Pence had no authority to do anything about the election.

 

[schmidlap]

I think that Iran is like Nazi Germany. Its ideology must be stamped out. Trump is the only American President brave enough to do it.

Cutting and running with bone spurs is truly heroic!