Is it time for Universal Healthcare....and can it be done?

[DGS49]

Just because a program benefits a lot of people that does not mean it is a "good" program.

Imagine a program that imposes a surtax of $5,000 per year on every right-handed person, and sends out a check for $35,000 every December for all the Lefties.

Stupid program, right? But it would greatly benefit one-seventh of the population, and God help you if you decided to kill the program ten years out. All the Beneficiaries would be screaming to high heaven that "taking away their money" is ruining their lives.

So just because you can find people who are happy to have Obamacare does not mean that it is (a) good, (b) sustainable, or (c) Constitutional. It is NONE of them.

 

[francoHFW]

francoHFW - do you believe Donald Trump will make better decisions for your family's health care than you could?

It's not a joke, francoHFW. If we get 'univesal healthcare', that means government controls your health care. And, sometimes, assholes will be elected to government. Do you really want assholes to control your healthcare?

Why do idiots keep voting for GOP assholes LOL!? Better than big health big Pharma...

I've never voted Republican. Try again, hater-dupe!

Seriously, do you want every election to be referendum on health care? Every vote to be a life-or-death decision???

Life is tough in a democracy... Any minute it will be suicide to vote against ACA etc etc...

 

[Meister]

francoHFW - do you believe Donald Trump will make better decisions for your family's health care than you could?

It's not a joke, francoHFW. If we get 'univesal healthcare', that means government controls your health care. And, sometimes, assholes will be elected to government. Do you really want assholes to control your healthcare?

Why do idiots keep voting for GOP assholes LOL!? Better than big health big Pharma...

Good grief, who basically wrote opiecare....it was the big healthcare companies. It also picked winners and losers.
But, that I'm sure is fine with you because opie was in the whitehouse. You are such a fool, Francis.

 

[francoHFW]

Just because a program benefits a lot of people that does not mean it is a "good" program.

Imagine a program that imposes a surtax of $5,000 per year on every right-handed person, and sends out a check for $35,000 every December for all the Lefties.

Stupid program, right? But it would greatly benefit one-seventh of the population, and God help you if you decided to kill the program ten years out. All the Beneficiaries would be screaming to high heaven that "taking away their money" is ruining their lives.

So just because you can find people who are happy to have Obamacare does not mean that it is (a) good, (b) sustainable, or (c) Constitutional. It is NONE of them.

ACA helps everyone and is a framework to add regulation to cut costs which is what we need now. Sorry fat cat insurers doctors Pharma etc etc etcetera

 

[Meister]

francoHFW - do you believe Donald Trump will make better decisions for your family's health care than you could?

It's not a joke, francoHFW. If we get 'univesal healthcare', that means government controls your health care. And, sometimes, assholes will be elected to government. Do you really want assholes to control your healthcare?

Why do idiots keep voting for GOP assholes LOL!? Better than big health big Pharma...

I've never voted Republican. Try again, hater-dupe!

Seriously, do you want every election to be referendum on health care? Every vote to be a life-or-death decision???

Life is tough in a democracy... Any minute it will be suicide to vote against ACA etc etc...

Life is tough in a democracy, a democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on what's for dinner. I thank God we are a republic

 

[francoHFW]

francoHFW - do you believe Donald Trump will make better decisions for your family's health care than you could?

It's not a joke, francoHFW. If we get 'univesal healthcare', that means government controls your health care. And, sometimes, assholes will be elected to government. Do you really want assholes to control your healthcare?

Why do idiots keep voting for GOP assholes LOL!? Better than big health big Pharma...

Good grief, who basically wrote opiecare....it was the big healthcare companies. It also picked winners and losers.
But, that I'm sure is fine with you because opie was in the whitehouse. You are such a fool, Francis.

Did you just figure out we are the capital of capitalism? Our system or non system was so horrible they had to cooperate or we would have screwed them even worse... Everything you dupes of the GOP know about ACA is pure b*******

 

[francoHFW]

francoHFW - do you believe Donald Trump will make better decisions for your family's health care than you could?

It's not a joke, francoHFW. If we get 'univesal healthcare', that means government controls your health care. And, sometimes, assholes will be elected to government. Do you really want assholes to control your healthcare?

Why do idiots keep voting for GOP assholes LOL!? Better than big health big Pharma...

I've never voted Republican. Try again, hater-dupe!

Seriously, do you want every election to be referendum on health care? Every vote to be a life-or-death decision???

Life is tough in a democracy... Any minute it will be suicide to vote against ACA etc etc...

Life is tough in a democracy, a democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on what's for dinner. I thank God we are a republic

And a republic is simply representative democracy...

 

[Meister]

It's not a joke, francoHFW. If we get 'univesal healthcare', that means government controls your health care. And, sometimes, assholes will be elected to government. Do you really want assholes to control your healthcare?

Why do idiots keep voting for GOP assholes LOL!? Better than big health big Pharma...

I've never voted Republican. Try again, hater-dupe!

Seriously, do you want every election to be referendum on health care? Every vote to be a life-or-death decision???

Life is tough in a democracy... Any minute it will be suicide to vote against ACA etc etc...

Life is tough in a democracy, a democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on what's for dinner. I thank God we are a republic

And a republic is simply representative democracy...

When you say "simply", you do realize that it avoids mob rule, right?

 

[francoHFW]

Why do idiots keep voting for GOP assholes LOL!? Better than big health big Pharma...

I've never voted Republican. Try again, hater-dupe!

Seriously, do you want every election to be referendum on health care? Every vote to be a life-or-death decision???

Life is tough in a democracy... Any minute it will be suicide to vote against ACA etc etc...

Life is tough in a democracy, a democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on what's for dinner. I thank God we are a republic

And a republic is simply representative democracy...

When you say "simply", you do realize that it avoids mob rule, right?

Along with the judicial and executive sections... It was a great system until the GOP propaganda machine came along....

 

[francoHFW]

I see another idiot pops into the thread about Venezuela when the OP was nothing about Venezuela.

Venezuela is how you know a right winger is losing an argument.

It seems not so long ago that very country was being praised by people just like you. Now that it failed,
those same people run off and say silly things like, "Venezuela is how you know a right winger is losing an argument."

No one ever praised Venezuela LOL

The likes of Sean Penn never praised the country? LOL You are a fool, Francis.

Michael Moore, Danny Glover....

They defended it... Halving homelessness and poverty and cutting illiteracy to close to zero in 5 years ain't bad. They had a corrupt oligarchy for hundreds of years. You know, what the scumbag GOP is trying to give us now...

 

[Staidhup]

The main issue remains tort reform and dismantling state insurance barriers, which will never happen, now ask yourself why? Then again if your of the mindset that everything should be free should understand nothing is for free.

 

[dblack]

francoHFW - do you believe Donald Trump will make better decisions for your family's health care than you could?

It's not a joke, francoHFW. If we get 'univesal healthcare', that means government controls your health care. And, sometimes, assholes will be elected to government. Do you really want assholes to control your healthcare?

Why do idiots keep voting for GOP assholes LOL!? Better than big health big Pharma...

I've never voted Republican. Try again, hater-dupe!

Seriously, do you want every election to be referendum on health care? Every vote to be a life-or-death decision???

Life is tough in a democracy... Any minute it will be suicide to vote against ACA etc etc...

Exactly.

 

[dblack]

Just because a program benefits a lot of people that does not mean it is a "good" program.

Imagine a program that imposes a surtax of $5,000 per year on every right-handed person, and sends out a check for $35,000 every December for all the Lefties.

Stupid program, right? But it would greatly benefit one-seventh of the population, and God help you if you decided to kill the program ten years out. All the Beneficiaries would be screaming to high heaven that "taking away their money" is ruining their lives.

So just because you can find people who are happy to have Obamacare does not mean that it is (a) good, (b) sustainable, or (c) Constitutional. It is NONE of them.

ACA helps everyone and is a framework to add regulation to cut costs which is what we need now. Sorry fat cat insurers doctors Pharma etc etc etcetera

It's a feeding trough for corporations. And you know it.

 

[gallantwarrior]

francoHFW - do you believe Donald Trump will make better decisions for your family's health care than you could?

It's not a joke, francoHFW. If we get 'univesal healthcare', that means government controls your health care. And, sometimes, assholes will be elected to government. Do you really want assholes to control your healthcare?

Why do idiots keep voting for GOP assholes LOL!? Better than big health big Pharma...

Good grief, who basically wrote opiecare....it was the big healthcare companies. It also picked winners and losers.
But, that I'm sure is fine with you because opie was in the whitehouse. You are such a fool, Francis.

Ding, ding, ding!! So-called "health care" legislation never addressed health care, but it did pay big for health insurance companies.

 

[debbiedowner]

Conservative Think-Tanker Accidentally Argues That Single Payer Could Save Americans $2 Trillion

We spend ~3.5 trillion annually when you combine personal expenditures, VA care, Medicare, and Medicaid. Not even adjusting for inflation, this is cheaper in the long run.

I'm deeply suspicious of any centralized government program. But if conservative lobbyists are going to dissuade the American public from single payer, they will have to do a better job on math.

Or keep defunding public schools.

 

[francoHFW]

Just because a program benefits a lot of people that does not mean it is a "good" program.

Imagine a program that imposes a surtax of $5,000 per year on every right-handed person, and sends out a check for $35,000 every December for all the Lefties.

Stupid program, right? But it would greatly benefit one-seventh of the population, and God help you if you decided to kill the program ten years out. All the Beneficiaries would be screaming to high heaven that "taking away their money" is ruining their lives.

So just because you can find people who are happy to have Obamacare does not mean that it is (a) good, (b) sustainable, or (c) Constitutional. It is NONE of them.

ACA helps everyone and is a framework to add regulation to cut costs which is what we need now. Sorry fat cat insurers doctors Pharma etc etc etcetera

It's a feeding trough for corporations. And you know it.

Less than it used to be... For example about 27% of big health money went for non-health spending ACA. ACA brought that down to 20%... Now we need more of that kind of thing, instead of the scumbag GOP trying to go back to the old scam non-system...

 

[francoHFW]

francoHFW - do you believe Donald Trump will make better decisions for your family's health care than you could?

It's not a joke, francoHFW. If we get 'univesal healthcare', that means government controls your health care. And, sometimes, assholes will be elected to government. Do you really want assholes to control your healthcare?

Why do idiots keep voting for GOP assholes LOL!? Better than big health big Pharma...

Good grief, who basically wrote opiecare....it was the big healthcare companies. It also picked winners and losers.
But, that I'm sure is fine with you because opie was in the whitehouse. You are such a fool, Francis.

Ding, ding, ding!! So-called "health care" legislation never addressed health care, but it did pay big for health insurance companies.

Blah blah blah... And it still Barely barely passed... It was as good as it was ever going to get...

 

[dblack]

Just because a program benefits a lot of people that does not mean it is a "good" program.

Imagine a program that imposes a surtax of $5,000 per year on every right-handed person, and sends out a check for $35,000 every December for all the Lefties.

Stupid program, right? But it would greatly benefit one-seventh of the population, and God help you if you decided to kill the program ten years out. All the Beneficiaries would be screaming to high heaven that "taking away their money" is ruining their lives.

So just because you can find people who are happy to have Obamacare does not mean that it is (a) good, (b) sustainable, or (c) Constitutional. It is NONE of them.

ACA helps everyone and is a framework to add regulation to cut costs which is what we need now. Sorry fat cat insurers doctors Pharma etc etc etcetera

It's a feeding trough for corporations. And you know it.

Less than it used to be... For example about 27% of big health money went for non-health spending ACA. ACA brought that down to 20%... Now we need more of that kind of thing, instead of the scumbag GOP trying to go back to the old scam non-system...

Google LIz Fowler.

 

[francoHFW]

The main issue remains tort reform and dismantling state insurance barriers, which will never happen, now ask yourself why? Then again if your of the mindset that everything should be free should understand nothing is for free.

Who says it won't happen? You're GOP brainwashers? ACA was always just a start, to be tinkered with forever...

 

[francoHFW]

Just because a program benefits a lot of people that does not mean it is a "good" program.

Imagine a program that imposes a surtax of $5,000 per year on every right-handed person, and sends out a check for $35,000 every December for all the Lefties.

Stupid program, right? But it would greatly benefit one-seventh of the population, and God help you if you decided to kill the program ten years out. All the Beneficiaries would be screaming to high heaven that "taking away their money" is ruining their lives.

So just because you can find people who are happy to have Obamacare does not mean that it is (a) good, (b) sustainable, or (c) Constitutional. It is NONE of them.

ACA helps everyone and is a framework to add regulation to cut costs which is what we need now. Sorry fat cat insurers doctors Pharma etc etc etcetera

It's a feeding trough for corporations. And you know it.

Less than it used to be... For example about 27% of big health money went for non-health spending ACA. ACA brought that down to 20%... Now we need more of that kind of thing, instead of the scumbag GOP trying to go back to the old scam non-system...

Google LIz Fowler.

I am shocked shocked LOL...