Is it time for Universal Healthcare....and can it be done?

[Doc1]

Gawd you are stupid. If you are dying to live under socialism move to Venezuela!

I would prefer France thank you very much. They still don't allow American Immigration...

Sneak across their border.

They have a National ID card and they and enforce it, like every other developed country except our idiot a******GOP one...

You're quite the accomplished Communist.

Communists believe in a dictatorship that owns all business and industry, idiot.

Fits you perfectly. You can't justify the Gov taking over health care and not the rest of business

 

[gallantwarrior]

Health care costs have been rising faster than inflation and GDP for decades. So far, the best the retards can come up with in the way of comprehensive reform is, "derpderpderp...no more free shit."

I'm not joking when I say pseudocons have been dumbed down to the intellectual bandwidth of a bumper sticker.

That's why the Democrats have been getting their way.

Seems like you failed to READ my next post after that one.

My alternative is health care at fair prices. It definitely is not health care where Americans are forced to pay for illegals and idiots like yourself.

Why on earth would anyone want to fund health care for people who want this nation gone? That is so profoundly silly, it's hard to comprehend indeed.

That's the biggest problem with our so-called health care system. It has nothing to do with paying for medical care for yourself and your family and everything to do with paying into a "pool" that provides INSURANCE coverage for anyone and everyone else in that pool. You are paying for lots of other folks when you are forced to pay for insurance.

 

[JGalt]

Is this like some opinion you have based on your hatred for America, or have you actually lived in any of those countries?

Google happiest countries, moron, and try watching and and reading real news someday, super duper...

"Google"? Really?

There's your fallacy: Getting faulty information from a leftists website. You might as well be relying on late-night comedians for you political advice.

What's that? You do rely on late-night comedians for your political advice?

Dumbass. Do you not even have a clue as to how much of a fuckin' hillbilly you really are? Relying on late-night comedians for you political advice is the liberal equivalent of "Hold my beer and watch this!...."

Not going to turn out like you expected but much hilarity for any spectators, ya dumbass.

So, what do you use to search the internet? You have to use some sort of search program or site.

Bing for general search. Google for image search because it's faster.

Even though, I still have to wade through a bunch of leftist-tainted crap to get to the truth.

Funny how everyone in outside your bubble of GOP BS agrees with Democrats....
..

If that's so, then why did you schmucks lose your collective asses in 2016?

And don't say "Russians."

 

[skews13]

First off, for those that know me...I am a conservative.
I do ask the question in sincerity.
Last year with health premiums, and healthcare bills, my wife and I spent $7,040 for the two of us.
Then add in the employers portion of premium and that totals up to roughly $11,000.
Even with that, we are well below the average cost the average American pays.
So, would I pay out say... $600 a month in taxes, and my employer in lieu of paying premiums, pay another $400 a month? Instead of paying an insurer?
Yes, yes I would.
But only if the care was equally as good.
And would it be?
How would we, as a nation, pay for the bums and lazy asses who won't work?
Should a "health tax" be income specific? So someone who makes $250,000 a year would pay a great deal more than a $50,000 a year person? Would that work?

One thing is for certain. The current system is not working well. We are paying more and more and more to insurers who are raising deductibles and increasing premiums while covering less.
What fix is there?

Yes.

Koch-backed study finds ‘Medicare for All’ would save U.S. trillions

So we can save $2 trillion, cover everybody, and put that $2 trillion towards an infrastructure plan that creates millions of jobs rebuilding the country?

And we're not doing this right now because?

 

[Doc1]

First off, for those that know me...I am a conservative.
I do ask the question in sincerity.
Last year with health premiums, and healthcare bills, my wife and I spent $7,040 for the two of us.
Then add in the employers portion of premium and that totals up to roughly $11,000.
Even with that, we are well below the average cost the average American pays.
So, would I pay out say... $600 a month in taxes, and my employer in lieu of paying premiums, pay another $400 a month? Instead of paying an insurer?
Yes, yes I would.
But only if the care was equally as good.
And would it be?
How would we, as a nation, pay for the bums and lazy asses who won't work?
Should a "health tax" be income specific? So someone who makes $250,000 a year would pay a great deal more than a $50,000 a year person? Would that work?

One thing is for certain. The current system is not working well. We are paying more and more and more to insurers who are raising deductibles and increasing premiums while covering less.
What fix is there?

Yes.

Koch-backed study finds ‘Medicare for All’ would save U.S. trillions

So we can save $2 trillion, cover everybody, and put that $2 trillion towards an infrastructure plan that creates millions of jobs rebuilding the country?

And we're not doing this right now because?

Do you pay 100% of the premiums for your employees?

 

[easyt65]

First off, for those that know me...I am a conservative.
I do ask the question in sincerity.
Last year with health premiums, and healthcare bills, my wife and I spent $7,040 for the two of us.
Then add in the employers portion of premium and that totals up to roughly $11,000.
Even with that, we are well below the average cost the average American pays.
So, would I pay out say... $600 a month in taxes, and my employer in lieu of paying premiums, pay another $400 a month? Instead of paying an insurer?
Yes, yes I would.
But only if the care was equally as good.
And would it be?
How would we, as a nation, pay for the bums and lazy asses who won't work?
Should a "health tax" be income specific? So someone who makes $250,000 a year would pay a great deal more than a $50,000 a year person? Would that work?

One thing is for certain. The current system is not working well. We are paying more and more and more to insurers who are raising deductibles and increasing premiums while covering less.
What fix is there?

Of course the 'current system' is not working. As Harry Reid admitted, Obamacare was DESIGNED TO FAIL.

IT WAS MEANT TO BE NOTHING MORE THAN A STEPPING STONE TO SINGLE PAYER.

Even with all the GOP and crony insurer sabotage, it is still working. It is not a conspiracy, conspiracy nut job dupe.

Tell that to Harry Reid, idiot.

"Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) was asked whether his goal was to move Obamacare to a single-payer system. His answer? “Yes, yes. Absolutely, yes.”

Harry Reid and Tom Coburn Agree: Obamacare Was Designed to Fail, Pave Way for Single-Payer

Sen. Harry Reid: Obamacare 'Absolutely' A Step Toward A Single-Payer System

It turned into that after years of sabotage in red States d u h.

What part of 'IT was designed to be a single payer stepping stone' from Reid do you not understand?

 

[francoHFW]

We pay 26%, other developed countries pay 34%. And they have free healthcare and all that other stuff. Don't be a dupe!

That 8% is a big difference for some of us.

Well regulated Healthcare is about 10%. Here Healthcare costs 18% of GDP, a GOP disgrace, Dupe.

We already have national healthcare, the U.S.A government pays for ER visits of the uninsured at top rates keep in mind too.

Wrong. Unless they are in a blue state or some red States and make less than a hundred 30% of poverty level and get Medicaid. Otherwise they get billed and go bankrupt and lose everything and everyone with insurance pays for them... Stupidest GOP non-system ever.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

We pay 26%, other developed countries pay 34%. And they have free healthcare and all that other stuff. Don't be a dupe!

That 8% is a big difference for some of us.

Well regulated Healthcare is about 10%. Here Healthcare costs 18% of GDP, a GOP disgrace, Dupe.

We already have national healthcare, the U.S.A government pays for ER visits of the uninsured at top rates keep in mind too.

Wrong. Unless they are in a blue state or some red States and make less than a hundred 30% of poverty level and get Medicaid. Otherwise they get billed and go bankrupt and lose everything and everyone with insurance pays for them... Stupidest GOP non-system ever.

I thought that changed under Obamacare?

Well, yeah they pay for their ER visits if they can't pay, exactly.

It actually ends up costing way more.

 

[francoHFW]

First off, for those that know me...I am a conservative.
I do ask the question in sincerity.
Last year with health premiums, and healthcare bills, my wife and I spent $7,040 for the two of us.
Then add in the employers portion of premium and that totals up to roughly $11,000.
Even with that, we are well below the average cost the average American pays.
So, would I pay out say... $600 a month in taxes, and my employer in lieu of paying premiums, pay another $400 a month? Instead of paying an insurer?
Yes, yes I would.
But only if the care was equally as good.
And would it be?
How would we, as a nation, pay for the bums and lazy asses who won't work?
Should a "health tax" be income specific? So someone who makes $250,000 a year would pay a great deal more than a $50,000 a year person? Would that work?

One thing is for certain. The current system is not working well. We are paying more and more and more to insurers who are raising deductibles and increasing premiums while covering less.
What fix is there?

Of course the 'current system' is not working. As Harry Reid admitted, Obamacare was DESIGNED TO FAIL.

IT WAS MEANT TO BE NOTHING MORE THAN A STEPPING STONE TO SINGLE PAYER.

Even with all the GOP and crony insurer sabotage, it is still working. It is not a conspiracy, conspiracy nut job dupe.

Tell that to Harry Reid, idiot.

"Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) was asked whether his goal was to move Obamacare to a single-payer system. His answer? “Yes, yes. Absolutely, yes.”

Harry Reid and Tom Coburn Agree: Obamacare Was Designed to Fail, Pave Way for Single-Payer

Sen. Harry Reid: Obamacare 'Absolutely' A Step Toward A Single-Payer System

It turned into that after years of sabotage in red States d u h.

What part of 'IT was designed to be a single payer stepping stone' from Reid do you not understand?

When, in 2200?

 

[francoHFW]

I would prefer France thank you very much. They still don't allow American Immigration...

Sneak across their border.

They have a National ID card and they and enforce it, like every other developed country except our idiot a******GOP one...

You're quite the accomplished Communist.

Communists believe in a dictatorship that owns all business and industry, idiot.

Fits you perfectly. You can't justify the Gov taking over health care and not the rest of business

Good regulation is not owning everything. Regulation is socialism, owning is communism--and doesn't work.

 

[Doc1]

Sneak across their border.

They have a National ID card and they and enforce it, like every other developed country except our idiot a******GOP one...

You're quite the accomplished Communist.

Communists believe in a dictatorship that owns all business and industry, idiot.

Fits you perfectly. You can't justify the Gov taking over health care and not the rest of business

Good regulation is not owning everything. Regulation is socialism, owning is communism--and doesn't work.

You're a communist. You just don't have the nads to admit it.

 

[WillowTree]

First off, for those that know me...I am a conservative.
I do ask the question in sincerity.
Last year with health premiums, and healthcare bills, my wife and I spent $7,040 for the two of us.
Then add in the employers portion of premium and that totals up to roughly $11,000.
Even with that, we are well below the average cost the average American pays.
So, would I pay out say... $600 a month in taxes, and my employer in lieu of paying premiums, pay another $400 a month? Instead of paying an insurer?
Yes, yes I would.
But only if the care was equally as good.
And would it be?
How would we, as a nation, pay for the bums and lazy asses who won't work?
Should a "health tax" be income specific? So someone who makes $250,000 a year would pay a great deal more than a $50,000 a year person? Would that work?

One thing is for certain. The current system is not working well. We are paying more and more and more to insurers who are raising deductibles and increasing premiums while covering less.
What fix is there?

Yes.

Koch-backed study finds ‘Medicare for All’ would save U.S. trillions

So we can save $2 trillion, cover everybody, and put that $2 trillion towards an infrastructure plan that creates millions of jobs rebuilding the country?

And we're not doing this right now because?

So! Are ewe for absolutely everyone paying federal taxes to cover it?

 

[francoHFW]

We pay 26%, other developed countries pay 34%. And they have free healthcare and all that other stuff. Don't be a dupe!

That 8% is a big difference for some of us.

Well regulated Healthcare is about 10%. Here Healthcare costs 18% of GDP, a GOP disgrace, Dupe.

We already have national healthcare, the U.S.A government pays for ER visits of the uninsured at top rates keep in mind too.

Wrong. Unless they are in a blue state or some red States and make less than a hundred 30% of poverty level and get Medicaid. Otherwise they get billed and go bankrupt and lose everything and everyone with insurance pays for them... Stupidest GOP non-system ever.

I thought that changed under Obamacare?

Well, yeah they pay for their ER visits if they can't pay, exactly.

It actually ends up costing way more.

The government doesn't pay, people with health insurance end up paying.

They have a National ID card and they and enforce it, like every other developed country except our idiot a******GOP one...

You're quite the accomplished Communist.

Communists believe in a dictatorship that owns all business and industry, idiot.

Fits you perfectly. You can't justify the Gov taking over health care and not the rest of business

Good regulation is not owning everything. Regulation is socialism, owning is communism--and doesn't work.

You're a communist. You just don't have the nads to admit it.

You are a brainwashed functional moron. There are no Communists in America, except on Fox LOL...

 

[francoHFW]

First off, for those that know me...I am a conservative.
I do ask the question in sincerity.
Last year with health premiums, and healthcare bills, my wife and I spent $7,040 for the two of us.
Then add in the employers portion of premium and that totals up to roughly $11,000.
Even with that, we are well below the average cost the average American pays.
So, would I pay out say... $600 a month in taxes, and my employer in lieu of paying premiums, pay another $400 a month? Instead of paying an insurer?
Yes, yes I would.
But only if the care was equally as good.
And would it be?
How would we, as a nation, pay for the bums and lazy asses who won't work?
Should a "health tax" be income specific? So someone who makes $250,000 a year would pay a great deal more than a $50,000 a year person? Would that work?

One thing is for certain. The current system is not working well. We are paying more and more and more to insurers who are raising deductibles and increasing premiums while covering less.
What fix is there?

Yes.

Koch-backed study finds ‘Medicare for All’ would save U.S. trillions

So we can save $2 trillion, cover everybody, and put that $2 trillion towards an infrastructure plan that creates millions of jobs rebuilding the country?

And we're not doing this right now because?

So! Are ewe for absolutely everyone paying federal taxes to cover it?

Just the bloated rich, just like the Democratic Party d u h.

 

[francoHFW]

They have a National ID card and they and enforce it, like every other developed country except our idiot a******GOP one...

You're quite the accomplished Communist.

Communists believe in a dictatorship that owns all business and industry, idiot.

Fits you perfectly. You can't justify the Gov taking over health care and not the rest of business

Good regulation is not owning everything. Regulation is socialism, owning is communism--and doesn't work.

You're a communist. You just don't have the nads to admit it.

I am a socialist. Always democratic Faire capitalism with a good safety net. Like every other developed country. Brainwashed functional idiot.

 

[PredFan]

First off, for those that know me...I am a conservative.
I do ask the question in sincerity.
Last year with health premiums, and healthcare bills, my wife and I spent $7,040 for the two of us.
Then add in the employers portion of premium and that totals up to roughly $11,000.
Even with that, we are well below the average cost the average American pays.
So, would I pay out say... $600 a month in taxes, and my employer in lieu of paying premiums, pay another $400 a month? Instead of paying an insurer?
Yes, yes I would.
But only if the care was equally as good.
And would it be?
How would we, as a nation, pay for the bums and lazy asses who won't work?
Should a "health tax" be income specific? So someone who makes $250,000 a year would pay a great deal more than a $50,000 a year person? Would that work?

One thing is for certain. The current system is not working well. We are paying more and more and more to insurers who are raising deductibles and increasing premiums while covering less.
What fix is there?

No and no.

 

[WillowTree]

First off, for those that know me...I am a conservative.
I do ask the question in sincerity.
Last year with health premiums, and healthcare bills, my wife and I spent $7,040 for the two of us.
Then add in the employers portion of premium and that totals up to roughly $11,000.
Even with that, we are well below the average cost the average American pays.
So, would I pay out say... $600 a month in taxes, and my employer in lieu of paying premiums, pay another $400 a month? Instead of paying an insurer?
Yes, yes I would.
But only if the care was equally as good.
And would it be?
How would we, as a nation, pay for the bums and lazy asses who won't work?
Should a "health tax" be income specific? So someone who makes $250,000 a year would pay a great deal more than a $50,000 a year person? Would that work?

One thing is for certain. The current system is not working well. We are paying more and more and more to insurers who are raising deductibles and increasing premiums while covering less.
What fix is there?

Yes.

Koch-backed study finds ‘Medicare for All’ would save U.S. trillions

So we can save $2 trillion, cover everybody, and put that $2 trillion towards an infrastructure plan that creates millions of jobs rebuilding the country?

And we're not doing this right now because?

So! Are ewe for absolutely everyone paying federal taxes to cover it?

Just the bloated rich, just like the Democratic Party d u h.

You cannot collect enough money that way!

 

[skews13]

First off, for those that know me...I am a conservative.
I do ask the question in sincerity.
Last year with health premiums, and healthcare bills, my wife and I spent $7,040 for the two of us.
Then add in the employers portion of premium and that totals up to roughly $11,000.
Even with that, we are well below the average cost the average American pays.
So, would I pay out say... $600 a month in taxes, and my employer in lieu of paying premiums, pay another $400 a month? Instead of paying an insurer?
Yes, yes I would.
But only if the care was equally as good.
And would it be?
How would we, as a nation, pay for the bums and lazy asses who won't work?
Should a "health tax" be income specific? So someone who makes $250,000 a year would pay a great deal more than a $50,000 a year person? Would that work?

One thing is for certain. The current system is not working well. We are paying more and more and more to insurers who are raising deductibles and increasing premiums while covering less.
What fix is there?

Yes.

Koch-backed study finds ‘Medicare for All’ would save U.S. trillions

So we can save $2 trillion, cover everybody, and put that $2 trillion towards an infrastructure plan that creates millions of jobs rebuilding the country?

And we're not doing this right now because?

So! Are ewe for absolutely everyone paying federal taxes to cover it?

I pay federal taxes now.

And premiums which are going up.

And co pays.

And drug costs which are going up.

 

[WillowTree]

First off, for those that know me...I am a conservative.
I do ask the question in sincerity.
Last year with health premiums, and healthcare bills, my wife and I spent $7,040 for the two of us.
Then add in the employers portion of premium and that totals up to roughly $11,000.
Even with that, we are well below the average cost the average American pays.
So, would I pay out say... $600 a month in taxes, and my employer in lieu of paying premiums, pay another $400 a month? Instead of paying an insurer?
Yes, yes I would.
But only if the care was equally as good.
And would it be?
How would we, as a nation, pay for the bums and lazy asses who won't work?
Should a "health tax" be income specific? So someone who makes $250,000 a year would pay a great deal more than a $50,000 a year person? Would that work?

One thing is for certain. The current system is not working well. We are paying more and more and more to insurers who are raising deductibles and increasing premiums while covering less.
What fix is there?

Yes.

Koch-backed study finds ‘Medicare for All’ would save U.S. trillions

So we can save $2 trillion, cover everybody, and put that $2 trillion towards an infrastructure plan that creates millions of jobs rebuilding the country?

And we're not doing this right now because?

So! Are ewe for absolutely everyone paying federal taxes to cover it?

I pay federal taxes now.

And premiums which are going up.

And co pays.

And drug costs which are going up.

That wasn’t the question. Answer the question!

 

[easyt65]

Of course the 'current system' is not working. As Harry Reid admitted, Obamacare was DESIGNED TO FAIL.

IT WAS MEANT TO BE NOTHING MORE THAN A STEPPING STONE TO SINGLE PAYER.

Even with all the GOP and crony insurer sabotage, it is still working. It is not a conspiracy, conspiracy nut job dupe.

Tell that to Harry Reid, idiot.

"Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) was asked whether his goal was to move Obamacare to a single-payer system. His answer? “Yes, yes. Absolutely, yes.”

Harry Reid and Tom Coburn Agree: Obamacare Was Designed to Fail, Pave Way for Single-Payer

Sen. Harry Reid: Obamacare 'Absolutely' A Step Toward A Single-Payer System

It turned into that after years of sabotage in red States d u h.

What part of 'IT was designed to be a single payer stepping stone' from Reid do you not understand?

When, in 2200?

You really should learn to read ... Or actually read links.