Is it possible to protect beautiful women from not-beauties?

[rupol2000]

And for the same reason, they absorbed the genetics of the best men, because earlier the best men of a patriarchal society chose beautiful women for themselves, therefore, the genetics of beautiful women and the genetics of strong men in many generations of natural selection are concentrated in them.

 

[rupol2000]

Tell ya what. Grab a megaphone, go to the next large gathering of people, and announce you're going to start a Society of Natural Beauty for women. No plastic faces, no plastic boobs. And you will be the judge.

Let's see how this goes for you, dude.

I do not consider this idea to be completely impracticable. This is real, although it needs to be promoted.

 

[rupol2000]

the problem here is that in modern society a man of the "knightly", military type is also not in demand. Therefore, even if we solve the problem of underestimated beauty, we still do not solve the problem of moral decay. Women will still not go to the knights, but to the merchants.

 

[SweetSue92]

And for the same reason, they absorbed the genetics of the best men, because earlier the best men of a patriarchal society chose beautiful women for themselves, therefore, the genetics of beautiful women and the genetics of strong men in many generations of natural selection are concentrated in them.

100% Incel

The thing about Incel fairy tales is that they're just a longer spun out version of "one time, at band camp"

heh

 

[katsteve2012]

In my observation, this is usually the case. They have more simplicity, compassion and kindness, less arrogance.
It is just that it is easy to explain this evolutionarily. When there was patriarchy, such women did not need to be cunning and resourceful in order to survive, they were provided with everything by men.

Then considering that the majority of the female population would more likely be considered "average looking" as opposed to "beautiful", what becomes of the "beautiful women" when their outward appearance fades over time, and they never learned about the value of independence and resourcefulness?

Perhaps that is one of the reasons for more women in general pursuing higher education and career opportunities in far greater numbers as opposed to past generations.

Being treated as an object based on physical appearance is an insult compared to achieving success based on personal effort.

 

[rupol2000]

100% Incel

The thing about Incel fairy tales is that they're just a longer spun out version of "one time, at band camp"

heh

First, we are discussing a problem, not a person, and going to person will not facilitate a constructive conversation.

Secondly, this cliché is beneficial to feminists, it is from the same category as the opinion that a man should f*ck anything if he sees the legs spread in front of him, otherwise he will be "accused" of "impotence". Such clichés are extremely beneficial just for nonbeauty women.

 

[rupol2000]

Being treated as an object based on physical appearance is an insult compared to achieving success based on personal effort.

As a rule, personal efforts are greatly exaggerated, success is usually achieved by protectionism and investment. This is another myth from the same category.

 

[rupol2000]

what becomes of the "beautiful women" when their outward appearance fades over time

This is also greatly exaggerated. Beauty has no direct correlation with age. Incidentally, I have often noticed that mediocre women try to mix the concepts of beauty and age in a completely obvious way. They sometimes try to identify beautiness as youth.
There is affect of age but it not critical. And it at least absolutely not critical for fetile age.
for example milen farmer looked good even at 50+

 

[SweetSue92]

First, we are discussing a problem, not a person, and going to person will not facilitate a constructive conversation.

Secondly, this cliché is beneficial to feminists, it is from the same category as the opinion that a man should f*ck anything if he sees the legs spread in front of him, otherwise he will be "accused" of "impotence". Such clichés are extremely beneficial just for nonbeauty women.

I don't have a problem. I'm just wondering how you got sucked into the Incel. Actually I don't really care

 

[rupol2000]

I don't have a problem. I'm just wondering how you got sucked into the Incel. Actually I don't really care

In itself, your reaction suggests that you care. Who doesn't care just walks by.

 

[SweetSue92]

In itself, your reaction suggests that you care. Who doesn't care just walks by.

I'm a curious person, always have been. I find it curious that a whole group of men can be so basic and spin it up to attempt to be so elevated.

Dude, here it is: You want pretty women. You're having a hard time getting them. Waaah

The end. Have a nice thread.

 

[rupol2000]

the Incel

Incidentally, this term, like most politicized templates, is not fully defined.

Let's say a man inсel. Is it because he can't, or because he doesn't want to? Is there a difference? Then why did you mix it up into one concept? The prince does not want to marry the frog, or the frog cannot marry the prince, even though it would love it?

 

[katsteve2012]

As a rule, personal efforts are greatly exaggerated, success is usually achieved by protectionism and investment. This is another myth from the same category.

As a "rule" an individuals personal efforts are normally proportionate to their success.

That's just how life works for most people.

 

[rupol2000]

You want pretty women. You're having a hard time getting them. Waaah

In fact, not everything is so simple here either. A beautiful woman may be available to a man, but he may consider himself unworthy of her.

In general, such rhetoric betrays inferiority in a person. If for someone to fuck a woman in itself is a value, then he is deprived of female attention and is trying to get it in a roundabout way. And this suggests that nature is against him, and he fights with her in order to drag his blood along the chain of evolution by any means.

This behavior is typical for the canine family in nature. As soon as the dog sees a moving object, he pounces on him.

 

[rupol2000]

As a "rule" an individuals personal efforts are normally proportionate to their success.

That's just how life works for most people.

Usually not. As a rule, patronage and finances are of decisive importance, in second place natural properties, and in third place personal efforts. However, personal effort can also depend on many factors, including parenting, and can have the opposite effect. Their influence is usually negligible, they only work when a person gets into a trend.

 

[rupol2000]

personal efforts

If everything depended on personal effort, then ants could become elephants if they ate more. In fact, a person can achieve success only in a certain niche, but if his personal qualities are not in demand by society, he does not achieve anything, because he cannot find a niche for himself.

 

[rupol2000]

personal efforts

An example of such a situation is the film The Wrestler. After an athlete leaves the sport because of his heart, he gets a job as a shop assistant, but this is a shameful role for him. But at other times, thanks to his military qualities, he would become a commander, even if he had heart problems.

This is a conditional example, not entirely accurate, but it clarifies the essence of the fact that personal effort does not lead to success. The fish, finding themselves out of the water, will not achieve anything with the efforts of breathing, it will still die. Ecology determines success, not effort.

 

[rupol2000]

In the best case, success will be for those whose qualities are in demand by society and the authorities. Currently, he is an official and a speculator.
But even this will not work in a left-wing society, because for a left society, diligence and averaging are more important than the personal qualities of anyone, which lead to initiative and call into question the manageability of society.
A beautiful woman in this sense will also interfere, because this is a trend against averaging

 

[rupol2000]

Returning directly to the topic. The values of honesty have not yet died out in our society. Counterfeiting, the behavior of a chameleon, plagiarist and fraudster is still condemned. Unscrupulous methods of competition and deception are condemned.
Why doesn't this apply to the behavior of women who use these methods? Are they an exception to generally accepted norms of behavior?

 

[rupol2000]

If feminists want to devalue femininity, then why do they themselves use means to imitate beauty? Do they forbid their adepts to use these means?