is it a good idea to allow citizens of foreign countries to vote in local elections in the US ?

[Harpy Eagle]

As I said, how they live is irrelevant, noncitizens can't vote or legally buy guns.

Wrong again. A green card holder is legally able to buy a gun.

Can You Buy a Gun in the U.S.?

The complete guide to legally buy guns and firearms in the U.S.

www.immihelp.com

Citizens have rights noncitizens don't, it's just that simple. And again, it has nothing to do with the math.

Not true at all, where did you get this idea? If that were true the police could do anything they wanted to them since they have no rights. Employers could abuse them since they have no rights.

Does The Constitution Protect Non-Citizens? Judges Say Yes

Non-citizens have rights, too -- even under the U.S. Constitution.

www.forbes.com

 

[Harpy Eagle]

First 10 words prove you to be an idiot.

The right to vote is reserved for citizens. It doesn't say "the right of anyone to vote".

It does not say that the right to vote is reserved for citizens, you jsut made that up. It merely says that the right cannot be taken away from citizens.

Those are not the same thing.

The Constitution is not an all inclusive list of what can happen, it is a limit on what the Govt is allowed to do.

 

[Nostra]

It does not say that the right to vote is reserved for citizens, you jsut made that up. It merely says that the right cannot be taken away from citizens.

Those are not the same thing.

The Constitution is not an all inclusive list of what can happen, it is a limit on what the Govt is allowed to do.

Your misinterpretation is cute. Feeble, but cute.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Your misinterpretation is cute. Feeble, but cute.

Feel free to show me a single court case that agrees with what you are saying.

Till then these laws are in place and have been for at least 5 years in one case.

 

[Nostra]

Feel free to show me a single court case that agrees with what you are saying.

Till then these laws are in place and have been for at least 5 years in one case.

Never heard of any of these laws before. Has one been challenged and made it to the SC?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Never heard of any of these laws before. Has one been challenged and made it to the SC?

They have not been challenged at all because everyone lawyer knows they are not again the Constitutions, thus they are not wasting their time.

 

[Nostra]

They have not been challenged at all because everyone lawyer knows they are not again the Constitutions, thus they are not wasting their time.

So they have not been ruled Constitutional.

Thanks for playing.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

So they have not been ruled Constitutional.

Thanks for playing.

Every law is by default Constitutional until ruled otherwise.

99% of the laws on the books have never made it to SCOTUS to be ruled upon.

 

[OKTexas]

Since at least 2017 cities have allowed this to happen, more than a dozen now. Not one of them has been found to be against the Constitution.

Not to mention there is nothing in the Constitution that would not allow this to happen.

There are court challenges, we'll see how they play out.

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[OKTexas]

again, you're attempting to argue with a demofk who is allergic to logic.

And an obvious liar.

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[OKTexas]

1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

This merely tells what cannot happen. Nothing in this bars non-citizens from voting in local elections.

Sure it does, you just obviously can't understand the written word. The right to vote is a franchise that is exclusive to citizens. If noncitizens were included it would say as much.

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[Harpy Eagle]

Sure it does, you just obviously can't understand the written word. The right to vote is a franchise that is exclusive to citizens. If noncitizens were included it would say as much.

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See post # 209. It seems we have beaten this dead horse enough

 

[Nostra]

Can anyone name a single country anywhere that allows non-citizens to vote in their elections?

 

[OKTexas]

Wrong again. A green card holder is legally able to buy a gun.

Can You Buy a Gun in the U.S.?

The complete guide to legally buy guns and firearms in the U.S.

www.immihelp.com

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Not true at all, where did you get this idea? If that were true the police could do anything they wanted to them since they have no rights. Employers could abuse them since they have no rights.

Does The Constitution Protect Non-Citizens? Judges Say Yes

Non-citizens have rights, too -- even under the U.S. Constitution.

www.forbes.com

I wasn't aware green card holders could buy guns. Other than that the rest of your bullshit is just deflection, nothing in that decision deals with voting. There's a reason there is a citizenship question on voter registration cards. So shove your semantics games up your commie ass.

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[Harpy Eagle]

I wasn't aware green card holders could buy guns. Other than that the rest of your bullshit is just deflection, nothing in that decision deals with voting. There's a reason there is a citizenship question on voter registration cards. So shove your semantics games up your commie ass.

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I know nothing in the decision deals with voting, but you said non-citizens have NO rights, not that they do not have any voting rights.

Are you now walking that back?

And yes, the citizenship question is on voter registration cards so that they know if you are eligible to vote in Fed elections.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Can anyone name a single country anywhere that allows non-citizens to vote in their elections?

Sweden
Slovenia
Netherlands
Israel
Ireland

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Can anyone name a single country anywhere that allows non-citizens to vote in their elections?

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Finland
Czech Republic

 

[OKTexas]

I know nothing in the decision deals with voting, but you said non-citizens have NO rights, not that they do not have any voting rights.

Are you now walking that back?

And yes, the citizenship question is on voter registration cards so that they know if you are eligible to vote in Fed elections.

Wow, more LIES, I said citizens have rights noncitizens don't, no where did I say noncitizens have NO rights. That includes noncitizens not having the right to vote.

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[Harpy Eagle]

Wow, more LIES, I said citizens have rights noncitizens don't, no where did I say noncitizens have NO rights. That includes the right to vote.

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My bad, I misread it to read that non-citizens don't have rights.

I apologize.

 

[daveman]

Don't be so hard on yourself.

We all have false narratives we live by, and questioning them is hard for everyone.

Uh huh. You're the One True Whatever The Hell You Are, and everyone else should shut up and listen.

Lemme know how that works out for you.