Is infrastructure a viable target in a time of war?

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Iran is not hostile to the USA…. Our economy has been on an upward trajectory since 1979 when the so called Islamic republic took power …

Iran does pose an issue to GCC countries and Israel…it’s a regional issue.

This is the most unpopular war in American history. Record numbers of Americans oppose it.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

 

[martybegan]

Yes he is, but even so, he is sadly 99% better than the circus he replaced, the same circus that is about to come in and impeach him for the 1000th time.

God help this country.

That's the blackpill problem, demanding perfection when all we can hope for is "pretty damn good"

 

[berg80]

In my mind, the bombing of Dresden during WW2 is as close to a war crime as you can get, yet nothing was ever said or done about it.

Bombing of Dresden - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Funny that.

Bombing Dresden was a war crime as was the use of nukes against Japan.

 

[martybegan]

Bombing Dresden was a war crime as was the use of nukes against Japan.

No they were not.

People forget the Japanese were killing 10's of thousands of civilians in China and Southeast Asia per month in the closing months of the war.

 

[Votto]

People should read the UN Charter and various conventions that the US has signed and agreed to uphold, don't guess or speculate.

Why then does the UN only sign resolutions agasint Israel then?

Last I checked, murdering 30 thousand protestors in Iran was against international law, yet they only keep pounding the table saying how bad Israel is instead of Iran.

Maybe the UN has not read their own charter, that could be it.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

The Zionist lobby dominates the left ,

Give it 20 years….the young republicans and democrats will take back our country.

And no we are not anti Israel….this foreign influence must end and it will God willing.

 

[OldFlame]

Iran is not hostile to the USA…. Our economy has been on an upward trajectory since 1979 when the so called Islamic republic took power …

Iran does pose an issue to GCC countries and Israel…it’s a regional issue.

This is the most unpopular war in American history. Record numbers of Americans oppose it.

Record numbers of muzzies oppose it, which is why you oppose it.

 

[Churchill]

Why then does the UN only sign resolutions agasint Israel then?

Pardon? The UN votes on resolutions, democratically.

Last I checked, murdering 30 thousand protestors in Iran was against international law, yet they only keep pounding the table saying how bad Israel is instead of Iran.

There was a UN resolution in January about the protests and it was carried. Also trump told us all a few days ago that the US had sent guns to the protesters, he admitted that it was an attempt to overthrow the government. Many of the protesters were therefore armed foreign backed insurrectionists not peaceful citizens.

Maybe the UN has not read their own charter, that could be it.

The UN is comprised of member states, thats the way the US designed it. They can vote on resolutions, that's the democratic policy.

 

[OldFlame]

The Zionist lobby dominates the left ,

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Give it 20 years….the young republicans and democrats will take back our country.

And no we are not anti Israel….this foreign influence must end and it will God willing.

So is AIPAC a bigger threat than the 6.5 billion spent on lobbying and influence since 2016 by China?

 

[Dorian Mode]

All I know is that it appears the DNC will take the House in the midterms, and when they do, they will try to impeach Trump for war crimes when he does take out their infrastructure, but does Trump care? Of course, I could be wrong, and they will try and impeach him for something else. I'm not even sure it matters what the reason is. They will either have control of the Senate as well so that they can throw him out after they impeach him or it will be as last time, they will impeach him to help aid their wet dreams. Then again, perhaps the lunatic Left don't even need a reason, so I'm not sure this even matters in that respect. All I know is that the vote in the midterm is only over whether you want Trump impeached or not, as nothing else will get done so vote "D" if you want this to happen or vote "R" if you don't. It really is that simple.

I wouldn't be so sure the dumocraps win anything in the midterms. They are not that popular anymore.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

So is AIPAC a bigger threat than the 6.5 billion spent on lobbying and influence since 2016 by China?

What Chinese lobby is influencing our government to go to war on behalf of China. Nothing like that.

Got any source showing Chinese lobbying donating money to most congressmen like the Zionist lobby does to our congress and Senate?



We have never heard a republican or Democrat in front of the camera and say “we need to support China and help them fight Taiwan or something like that”. I don’t know what you’re trying to do here. But there is no denying the powerful Zionist lobby. You could either support it or criticize it or perhaps be neutral.

Just laying out the fax here a record number of Americans don’t support the war with Iran. This is the most unpopular war in recent American history. Looking at the numbers early on a lot of Americans supported the war in Iraq in 2003… not the case with Iran in 2026.

Good job tho on not busting out the racist or Muslim accusation

“Joo hater”

“racist!”

But surely you’re bound to bring that up again. “You’re a Muslim” Imagine me responding to you saying “go back to your temple you Jew”

 

[M14 Shooter]

But getting back to the topic of infrastructure as a valid military target, as in any war, infrastructure is targeted, such as knocking out bridges, and power stations, etc.

You win a war by destroying your enemy's ability to make war, so... yes.
Does Iran have any dams we could break? Be nice to get in a little practice for taking on China.

All I know is that it appears the DNC will take the House in the midterms, and when they do, they will try to impeach Trump for war crimes when he does take out their infrastructure, but does Trump care?

If the Democrats take over the house, they will do nothing but impeach Trump.

 

[OldFlame]

What Chinese lobby is influencing our government to go to war on behalf of China. Nothing like that.

Got any source showing Chinese lobbying donating money to most congressmen like the Zionist lobby does to our congress and Senate?



We have never heard a republican or Democrat in front of the camera and say “we need to support China and help them fight Taiwan or something like that”. I don’t know what you’re trying to do here. But there is no denying the powerful Zionist lobby. You could either support it or criticize it or perhaps be neutral.

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Just laying out the fax here a record number of Americans don’t support the war with Iran. This is the most unpopular war in recent American history. Looking at the numbers early on a lot of Americans supported the war in Iraq in 2003… not the case with Iran in 2026.

Good job tho on not busting out the racist or Muslim accusation

“Joo hater”

“racist!”

But surely you’re bound to bring that up again. “You’re a Muslim” Imagine me responding to you saying “go back to your temple you Jew”

So you don't care about foreign influence on American politicians, only Israels, thanks for confirming muzzie.

 

[Votto]

Pardon? The UN votes on resolutions, democratically.

There was a UN resolution in January about the protests and it was carried. Also trump told us all a few days ago that the US had sent guns to the protesters, he admitted that it was an attempt to overthrow the government. Many of the protesters were therefore armed foreign backed insurrectionists not peaceful citizens.

The UN is comprised of member states, thats the way the US designed it. They can vote on resolutions, that's the democratic policy.

The UN has passed more resolutions against Israel than all the nations of the world combined

Do you think that this was deserved or does the "Democratic" assembly veer towards antisemitism?

For example, was the UN justified about passing resolutions against Israel for building walls while just south of the border the Sudan was engaged in a major genocide against Christians in the South as they seeming ignored it?

 

[1srelluc]

Sigh, I don't know how many times it needs to be said.....

Anything that powers an enemy (powerplants, refineries, fuel storage) or grants access/egress (roads/bridges/railways) to an enemy are legit .mil targets and always has been.

Just because some here don't like it does not make it any less true.

 

[Churchill]

The UN has passed more resolutions against Israel than all the nations of the world combined

That's because Israel is a serial breaker of international law, but relax, the US always vetos them.

Do you think that this was deserved or does the "Democratic" assembly veer towards antisemitism?

It was deserved.

For example, was the UN justified about passing resolutions against Israel for building walls

Show me the resolution and I'll take a look.

while just south of the border the Sudan was engaged in a major genocide against Christians in the South as they seeming ignored it?

What stopped the United States or Israel from tabling a resolution to address that situation in Sudan? Nothing, any member state can draft a resolution for the general assembly or security council to vote on.

Get some books.

 

[Concerned American]

During World War Two it was.
Both Axis and Allies bombed each other's cities. Sometimes to destroy the war machine factories, other times to displace the workers in those factories.
USAAF and RAF were more effective and did such on much larger scale, flattened much of Germany's cities before the end of war came.

It's know as 'Total War' and destroying infrastructure reduced military effectiveness on the battlefield.

The invention of effective, precision munitions has opened a less massive, "carpet bomb" approach, but there are times the bombs miss, or unwanted objects/people are too close to the target.

It is WAR. The intent is to break the will of the adversary. If it done by destroying their infrastructure, denying them food and comfort or wounding and incapacitating them, it works to the same end. Wounded military is as good as dead military--sometimes better as it takes human and real resources to heal those who have been wounded. Lumped together, these methods work to break any civilian will to wage war.

 

[candycorn]

I see it all coming, like a train about to plow into a car but can do nothing to stop it.

Iran is not going to agree to any terms with Trump. In fact, the more Trump wants them to agree to something, the more they will insist that they will not. So, Trump is now faced with going through with his threat to target infrastructure within Iran, simply because he has no more viable military targets to pursue.

We’ve become a rogue state. I agree with you; your blob has painted himself (and us) into a corner so now all we can do is bomb civilian targets. A sane leader wouldn’t have allowed him to get boxed in so easily.

Personally, I would tell the world what he said before, if you want their oil come get it. And if they don't let you have it by opening the Straits of Hormuz, why not if they are only upset with Israel and the US? But Trump is too preoccupied on the negative effects on the world economy I reckon. Whatever. Really though, it is a prime chance to build a world consensus against Iran so that they all start coming after them, especially the countries that Iran indiscriminately attacked when the US and Israel attacked them.

You’re dreaming. We attack them unprovoked and then you expect the rest of the world to line up on our side?

But getting back to the topic of infrastructure as a valid military target, as in any war, infrastructure is targeted, such as knocking out bridges, and power stations, etc. The difference here is, there are no boots on the ground that this will benefit. How will this benefit the air only attacks on Iran, or is the thinking that it will help further delay them being able to build WMD's?

All I know is that it appears the DNC will take the House in the midterms, and when they do, they will try to impeach Trump for war crimes when he does take out their infrastructure, but does Trump care? Of course, I could be wrong, and they will try and impeach him for something else. I'm not even sure it matters what the reason is. They will either have control of the Senate as well so that they can throw him out after they impeach him or it will be as last time, they will impeach him to help aid their wet dreams. Then again, perhaps the lunatic Left don't even need a reason, so I'm not sure this even matters in that respect. All I know is that the vote in the midterm is only over whether you want Trump impeached or not, as nothing else will get done so vote "D" if you want this to happen or vote "R" if you don't. It really is that simple.

Not sure how to respond to that incoherent rambling.

The sad truth is, at the political level, this debate will never be handled to get at the truth, rather, as always those discussing it in the Swamp will have hyper partisan reasons for their political position on the matter. In fact, I'm not even sure you can have a dialogue here about it for the same reason, but it is an interesting topic to discuss.

Ahh...I see “the swamp” myth is back. LOL

The blob attacked Iran to detract from a failed domestic agenda. Prices have not come down, deportations were not erradicating all brown people from the countryside as was advtertised, the tariffs were not working and were rejected by SCOTUS, the nation is angrier, less healthy (measels outbreaks in 32 states), and the administration isn’t able to form a coherent message on anything. So he did what Bush Sr. did and what W did...attack people who didn’t attack us because of oil. Its incredibly unpopular because we’ve done this 3 times in 40 years--all under GOP presidents. He went to the well once too often and he’s feeling the pinch.

 

[candycorn]

As we saw with Hamas, Hamas could openly target women and children for rape and murder and kidnapping, and film it all proudly as they do it, and no one in the international community seems to give a damn. But by God, if women and children die as they retaliate for the above genocide and war atrocity, only the US and Israel are portrayed as war criminals.

The difference is that HAMAS doesn’t invade nations with one hand and hold it’s self up as the lone hope for a peaceful tomorrow for all mankind as the other. As of January 20th, we became the nation that does that. We used to not invade nations without provocation. We no longer have any moral high ground.

But it does matter which administration is doing the war thingy and whether Europe is behind your war thingy. For example, Obama was told by the international community he needed to do something about Gaddafi, so he blew the country to bits and overthrew Gaddafi and got a Nobel Peace prize from the international community.

Nonsense.