Is infrastructure a viable target in a time of war?

[Votto]

I was supposed to "hang on" while Blondi failed to do her job and wasn't shitcanned.

I'm done "hanging on" for this shit show...Trump is clean off the rails.

Yes he is, but even so, he is sadly 99% better than the circus he replaced, the same circus that is about to come in and impeach him for the 1000th time.

God help this country.

 

[my2¢]

All I know is that the vote in the midterm is only over whether you want Trump impeached or not, as nothing else will get done so vote "D" if you want this to happen or vote "R" if you don't. It really is that simple.

The actions of the Democrats during Trump's first term were juvenile. And I don't expect it to be any different if they gain control in January. However, I disagree with the stance of it's that simple.

I'm not sure how I'll be voting this fall, but if it's for (D), it'll have nothing to do with impeachment. For quite some time my feeling is that the country is far better off when there's political stagnation in Washington. I suspect many others also have this view as historically the party holding the White House has typically done less well in the midterms.

 

[Oddball]

Yes he is, but even so, he is sadly 99% better than the circus he replaced, the same circus that is about to come in and impeach him for the 1000th time.

"Better than the other retard" doesn't cut shit.

Trump was peddled as different, and he's not.

 

[Churchill]

I see it all coming, like a train about to plow into a car but can do nothing to stop it.

Iran is not going to agree to any terms with Trump. In fact, the more Trump wants them to agree to something, the more they will insist that they will not. So, Trump is now faced with going through with his threat to target infrastructure within Iran, simply because he has no more viable military targets to pursue. Personally, I would tell the world what he said before, if you want their oil come get it. And if they don't let you have it by opening the Straits of Hormuz, why not if they are only upset with Israel and the US? But Trump is too preoccupied on the negative effects on the world economy I reckon. Whatever. Really though, it is a prime chance to build a world consensus against Iran so that they all start coming after them, especially the countries that Iran indiscriminately attacked when the US and Israel attacked them.

But getting back to the topic of infrastructure as a valid military target, as in any war, infrastructure is targeted, such as knocking out bridges, and power stations, etc. The difference here is, there are no boots on the ground that this will benefit. How will this benefit the air only attacks on Iran, or is the thinking that it will help further delay them being able to build WMD's?

All I know is that it appears the DNC will take the House in the midterms, and when they do, they will try to impeach Trump for war crimes when he does take out their infrastructure, but does Trump care? Of course, I could be wrong, and they will try and impeach him for something else. I'm not even sure it matters what the reason is. They will either have control of the Senate as well so that they can throw him out after they impeach him or it will be as last time, they will impeach him to help aid their wet dreams. Then again, perhaps the lunatic Left don't even need a reason, so I'm not sure this even matters in that respect. All I know is that the vote in the midterm is only over whether you want Trump impeached or not, as nothing else will get done so vote "D" if you want this to happen or vote "R" if you don't. It really is that simple.

The sad truth is, at the political level, this debate will never be handled to get at the truth, rather, as always those discussing it in the Swamp will have hyper partisan reasons for their political position on the matter. In fact, I'm not even sure you can have a dialogue here about it for the same reason, but it is an interesting topic to discuss.

People should read the UN Charter and various conventions that the US has signed and agreed to uphold, don't guess or speculate.

 

[Rawley]

But what is the military benefit for Trump doing it now?

At least respect to the rail and roads and bridges, one the fundamental offensive weapons is the mobile launchers. You blow up that infrastructure, you limit their mobility.

 

[leftwinger]

I was supposed to "hang on" while Blondi failed to do her job and wasn't shitcanned.

I'm done "hanging on" for this shit show...Trump is clean off the rails.

Blondi got put out. But since he gets no recess appts (like the others did) thanks to TurnCoatThune he will have to parade whomever across the suits. This regime has Deep State working against it 24-7. He is doing what he cans w/o losing people like ME. I will trust until I can't any longer. Everything would be 1000X worse under more Obiden auto-pen fraud and do-nothing. What do you want him to do? Stay out of Iran? Let them finish the bomb at secret site #2?

ITiT

 

[Stryder50]

We cannot do that. Not anymore.

I don't think any other nation could either.
I'm hoping some common sense and view to a workable End Game is applying here.
The "Bomb Iran to a Moonscape" plan is not a workable solution. A quick way out while leaving a bigger mess, maybe.

We/Trump need to not lose patience and understand time now for Phase Two.
Selective insertion of SOF and 'other boots' to mop up Iran's military assets, those underground factories/armories;
... Combined with arming, advising, and directing that portion of the populace fed up with theocracy to overthrow and implement a more representative government.

If I were C-in-C that would be my plan.
I'm expecting many career Flag rank (Generals and Admirals) have advised.suggested this already.

This is a case of in for penny, then in for a pound/dollar.

 

[leftwinger]

target women and children for rape and murder and kidnapping, and film it all proudly as they do it, and no one in the international community seems to give a damn

Nary a peep outa pope but now wants a peace vigil?

 

[Votto]

The actions of the Democrats during Trump's first term were juvenile. And I don't expect it to be any different if they gain control in January. However, I disagree with the stance of it's that simple.

I'm not sure how I'll be voting this fall, but if it's for (D), it'll have nothing to do with impeachment. For quite some time my feeling is that the country is far better off when there's political stagnation in Washington. I suspect many others also have this view as historically the party holding the White House has typically done less well in the midterms.

Democrats are a much worse threat to our freedoms than the GOP.

For example, the Left has tried to assassinate conservatives in all 3 branches of government, and they also go after pretty much anyone else there that either offends them or they view as a political threat. There simply is nothing like that on the other side.

The DNC also are known for their fraud schemes and questionable voting tactics. They have no morals. But one of the most concerning things for me is our freedom of speech. About half of Americans now believe that the freedom of speech needs to be repealed, or at the very least, heavily regulated by the Swamp. And as we saw with how the Biden administration weaponized everything around him, that spills out on our freedom of speech as he told social media corporations like Twitter to censor any stories about Hunter Biden's laptop because it was Russian disinformation. Then after the election, we find out it was not Russian disinformation. In fact, voters polled after the election, about 20% of them said that they would never have voted for Biden had they known about the scandal, which may have changed the outcome of the election. And we all saw how the DNC censored everyone on social media regarding COVID. And once we loose freedom of speech, then all the elections go farther Left as we may as well all move to Canada.

Honestly, voting "D" is playing with fire. Just look at what they did to places like California, where they now own the state in its entirely with no hope of the GOP ever making a dent their ever again, due to their corruption and gerrymandering and control of academia, etc.

 

[berg80]

But getting back to the topic of infrastructure as a valid military target, as in any war, infrastructure is targeted, such as knocking out bridges, and power stations, etc. The difference here is, there are no boots on the ground that this will benefit. How will this benefit the air only attacks on Iran, or is the thinking that it will help further delay them being able to build WMD's?

Trump threats against civilian targets put military in legal, moral quandary​

“I’m concerned that the president’s bombast is putting the operational commanders in a very difficult position,” said Geoffrey Corn, who served as a top law-of-war expert at the U.S. Army in Iraq in 2004-2005. “They know that you cannot just draw a circle around the country and say every element of the electrical grid is now a lawful target.”

Jameel Jaffer, a longtime human rights lawyer and lecturer at Columbia University, said Trump’s latest threat to extinguish a “whole civilization” meets the “very definition of terrorism — to seek to achieve political ends through violence or threats of violence directed at civilians.”
He noted that the Pentagon’s own law-of-war manual clearly prohibits threats of violence whose primary purpose is to spread terror among civilians. “Military personnel,” Jaffer said, “have an obligation not to carry out orders they know to be unlawful.”

Until now, the United States largely has been hitting military targets in Iran such as ammunition depots, ballistic missile manufacturing facilities, mobile launchers and naval ships. But Trump has threatened that, as of Tuesday 8 p.m., he will order the military to target clearly civilian facilities and do so indiscriminately, rather than weigh whether each is a valid military target whose destruction would not cause undue civilian harm.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/04/07/trump-iran-bombing-civilization-war-crime/

There is no gray area when it comes to bombing power plants.

 

[JanetTheGreat]

Trump is off the rails. Targeting the civilian infrastructure is a war crime. This war is illegal, unsanctioned, and against International Law.

 

[leftwinger]

The actions of the Democrats during Trump's first term were juvenile. And I don't expect it to be any different if they gain control in January. However, I disagree with the stance of it's that simple.

I'm not sure how I'll be voting this fall, but if it's for (D), it'll have nothing to do with impeachment. For quite some time my feeling is that the country is far better off when there's political stagnation in Washington. I suspect many others also have this view as historically the party holding the White House has typically done less well in the midterms.

They have DOGE going after waste (and Fraud) they have Fraud task force. It is being exposed $100B at a time. Yet you want to go back to "doing nothing"? I am happy with first years accomplishments. If Iran works out....so be it. Another win. If not? Le the ME clean itself up to pay for 65 years of terrorism since Arafat invented Airline hi-jacking. This isn't that hard. It is not rocket science. There is bad (muslimes, AllStain, Deep State etc.) and there is good fighting against it. I back our side, the side of good.

 

[eagle1462010]

Yes

 

[leftwinger]

Trump is off the rails. Targeting the civilian infrastructure is a war crime. This war is illegal, unsanctioned, and against International Law.

IF Iran military is traveling on bridges is it a military target? Posted here today or somewhere....other Presidents did much worse. But silent the Stain. silent AllStain.

 

[Votto]

Trump is off the rails. Targeting the civilian infrastructure is a war crime. This war is illegal, unsanctioned, and against International Law.

As I said, Hamas, which is an Iranian backed proxy, murdered 1200 women and children as they admitted targeting them and even filmed it. And there are many more proxy attacks such as this since their Revolution in 79 as many Americans were targeted over the years.

Are you saying that America and Israel are not allowed to return fire and just take it?

Iran is the very definition of illegal as their beginning started when they took over the US embassy in Iran. Last I checked, by international law that is illegal as well. But I guess we just learn to ignore what they do or say that the US had it coming, right?

 

[22lcidw]

Trump is off the rails. Targeting the civilian infrastructure is a war crime. This war is illegal, unsanctioned, and against International Law.

War crimes! What the hell does that mean. You have psychotics and sociopaths empowered in your party at all levels.

 

[JanetTheGreat]

War crimes! What the hell does that mean. You have psychotics and sociopaths empowered in your party at all levels.

There it is again! I dared to disagree with something Trump said, so I MUST be a Democrat! Booooo hooo.

 

[Votto]

War crimes! What the hell does that mean. You have psychotics and sociopaths empowered in your party at all levels.

In my mind, the bombing of Dresden during WW2 is as close to a war crime as you can get, yet nothing was ever said or done about it.

Bombing of Dresden - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Funny that.

 

[berg80]

It reminds me of McCain who picked Sarah Palin for VP, someone he detested just to troll the GOP voters and generate hate from the Left who viciously attacked her more than they did McCain.

He picked $arah as a hail Mary to save his candidacy. Picking a nitwit like her was a huge error in judgement. Like voting for trump.

 

[Votto]

He picked $arah as a hail Mary to save his candidacy. Picking a nitwit like her was a huge error in judgement. Like voting for trump.

No, I don't think he wanted to win, as she was a terrible candidate.

I'm a conservative, and even I could see that.

He was more than pleased to lose to Obama.

I can still see the smug smile on his face when he lost.