Is he even President anymore?

[BS Filter]

‘Is he even president anymore?’ Loser Trump ‘more or less abandoning his job to sulk in the White House’

Obviously he's dealing with the Dems. attempt to corrupt the voting process and steal the election which is exactly what he should be doing.

Trump wasn't doing his job even before he lost reelection.

He did more in 4 years than Biden has in 47, and he did it without pay.

 

[Faun]

I submit that a fairly large % of those job gains you attribute to him are federal government hirees who produce $0.00 in GDP.

LOL

You're wrong about that too. Here are the numbers from the private sector...

Employed (Private Sector)

Clinton ... +20,970,000
Bush ............... -387,000
Obama ... +11,849,000
Trump ......... -2,481,000

Public sector...

Clinton ....... +1,934,000
Bush ............ +1,744,000
Obama ............ -277,000
Trump .............. -773,000

You're cherry picking numbers without context.

Black males make up 6% of the US population. NBA is 85% black. So is the NBA racist?

LOL

By "cherry-picking," you mean posting the actual numbers for the entirety of each respective presidency.

By cherry picking I mean doing it at a point in time vs. what really happened and what led to those results. No COVID and Trump's numbers are great and he likely wins a 2nd term. Context matters. Any president in his position would look bad as we had to shut down the economy.

Trump's pre-covid numbers were abysmal. They actually went up with COVID....and then back down when his incompetence really began to shine.

If Trump hadn't suppressed his own votes by shitting on mail in ballots and hadn't been so wildly incompetent in his response to COVID, he may have won.

Alas, he did. And he was.

What? His numbers on how he ran the economy were abysmal? LOL

I am tired of your one way conspiracy theory diatribe. Troll someone else, fat boy.

His approval ratings before the Marchi 16th lockdowns marked the nation taking COVID very seriously were absymal. Just before the lock down his job approval ratings were hovering around 42%.

No president has ever been relected with numbers that low.

Polls....yeah they were excellent. Those ratings were run low by the biased media. What was his approval rating on the economy? High 50s. Stop your trolling, fat boy. He nearly won again with COVID. Without COVID he definitely wins as there are fewer mail in ballots as well.

You're the one citing 'his numbers'. And when 'his numbers' don't support your narrative, you attack the validity of 'his numbers'.

If you're gonna wipe your ass with your own argument, just give me a head's up in advance. It will save us both time.

You can't see well with your head inside your grocery exit.

Or.....Trump's numbers were abysmal before COVID.

Nah.

He thinks I was discussing poll numbers. I keep forgetting that the leftists here are illiterate when it comes to the economy. JEEEZUS.

Do you really want to take a look at Trump's economic record? The job losses on his watch, the damage to the economy, the closed businesses, the massive deficits?

Because like his COVID response, its a record of spectacular failure.

So you would have preferred 2 million deaths by keeping the economy open. That's insane.

Goodness no. I would have preferred a competent COVID response from the President and some actual leadership.

It looks like I'll have to wait until mid January for that.

So what should Trump have done?

How about....not lie to the American public about the threat.

How about.....not pushing drugs unproven to treat COVID.

How about......delegating vital duties of our COVID response to seasoned professionals with decades of experience rather than his son-in-law.

How about.....consistent messaging on the safety precautions that work. Like masks and social distancing.

How about....leading by example.

How about....leading at all. We lost 1600 people yesterday alone. We're averaging more than 1000 deaths a day. That's more than two 911's a week. And the president has barely been seen.

How about.....no promoting conspiracy theorists spouting nonsense about 'demon semen' in Presidential communications and the RNC?

How about....not holding massive 'mask optional' super spreader events that put even TRUMP into the ICU.

How about.....preparation, like stocking up our national reserves of PPE equipment.

How about......not spreading conspiracy theories about the virus.

How about.....a cohesive national policy to combat the virus.

How about.....not actively trying to undermine confidence in our healthcare experts.

How about......even attending a COVID task force meeting in the last 5 months.

151 out of 164 nations have a better record on COVID than we do. Clearly, better respones than our horrid failure can be done.

Was the President right to shut down the economy last Spring?

Did the president shut down the economy last spring?

Oh now you're gonna play dumb. You can't have it both ways.

You asked me what Trump should have done differently. I gave you more than a dozen specific examples and you ignored them all.

But tell us more about 'playing dumb'.

You blamed Trump for the bad economy when the truth is he deliberately shut it down because of Covid. Now you claim he didn't shut it down. Like I said, you're playing dumb, and you're lying.

How did Trump 'shut down' the economy? By all means, describe the process to us.

As you've commited to ignoring the more than a DOZEN examples of his inexcusible and inept failures of Trump's COVID response....perhaps you'll be less likely to ignore your own claims.

NYT: The Trump Shutdown is “Inflicting Far Greater Damage” on the Economy

The economic damage from the Trump shutdown is “inflicting far greater damage” than previously estimated, according to the President’s own economists. The New York Times explains the Council of Economic Advisers’ analysis shows how a prolonged shutdown could cause a recession. So, the President...

www.majorityleader.gov

And if you read the first paragraph of what you posted.....

"The partial government shutdown is inflicting far greater damage on the United States economy than previously estimated, the White House acknowledged on Tuesday, as President Trump’s economists doubled projections of how much economic growth is being lost each week the standoff with Democrats continues.”

Sigh. This is some real JV shit.

Shutdown’s Economic Damage Starts to Pile Up, Threatening an End to Growth (Published 2019)

The White House doubled its estimate of the shutdown’s drag on growth, and other economists warned a long stalemate could push the economy into a contraction.

www.nytimes.com

That's from January 2019. They are referencing the 2018/2019 partial government shut down that Trump started when battling Pelosi over the budget.

Does your theory involve a delorean? Perhaps a blue police box?

Try this one.

U.S. economic shutdown saved up to 2.7 million lives, analysis finds

Slamming the brakes on the economy saved many more lives than it ruined, researchers conclude.

www.cbsnews.com

LOLOLOLOLOL

Damn you, you're killing me with your ignorance.

As if you didn't already make a big enough fool with your first link, this one is almost as bad -- nowhere in it does it state Trump shut the country down.

 

[Faun]

‘Is he even president anymore?’ Loser Trump ‘more or less abandoning his job to sulk in the White House’

Obviously he's dealing with the Dems. attempt to corrupt the voting process and steal the election which is exactly what he should be doing.

Trump wasn't doing his job even before he lost reelection.

He did more in 4 years than Biden has in 47, and he did it without pay.

LOL

At least Biden was able to get re-elected. Something Trump won't have on his legacy.

 

[Skylar]

I submit that a fairly large % of those job gains you attribute to him are federal government hirees who produce $0.00 in GDP.

LOL

You're wrong about that too. Here are the numbers from the private sector...

Employed (Private Sector)

Clinton ... +20,970,000
Bush ............... -387,000
Obama ... +11,849,000
Trump ......... -2,481,000

Public sector...

Clinton ....... +1,934,000
Bush ............ +1,744,000
Obama ............ -277,000
Trump .............. -773,000

You're cherry picking numbers without context.

Black males make up 6% of the US population. NBA is 85% black. So is the NBA racist?

LOL

By "cherry-picking," you mean posting the actual numbers for the entirety of each respective presidency.

By cherry picking I mean doing it at a point in time vs. what really happened and what led to those results. No COVID and Trump's numbers are great and he likely wins a 2nd term. Context matters. Any president in his position would look bad as we had to shut down the economy.

Trump's pre-covid numbers were abysmal. They actually went up with COVID....and then back down when his incompetence really began to shine.

If Trump hadn't suppressed his own votes by shitting on mail in ballots and hadn't been so wildly incompetent in his response to COVID, he may have won.

Alas, he did. And he was.

What? His numbers on how he ran the economy were abysmal? LOL

I am tired of your one way conspiracy theory diatribe. Troll someone else, fat boy.

His approval ratings before the Marchi 16th lockdowns marked the nation taking COVID very seriously were absymal. Just before the lock down his job approval ratings were hovering around 42%.

No president has ever been relected with numbers that low.

Polls....yeah they were excellent. Those ratings were run low by the biased media. What was his approval rating on the economy? High 50s. Stop your trolling, fat boy. He nearly won again with COVID. Without COVID he definitely wins as there are fewer mail in ballots as well.

You're the one citing 'his numbers'. And when 'his numbers' don't support your narrative, you attack the validity of 'his numbers'.

If you're gonna wipe your ass with your own argument, just give me a head's up in advance. It will save us both time.

You can't see well with your head inside your grocery exit.

Or.....Trump's numbers were abysmal before COVID.

Nah.

He thinks I was discussing poll numbers. I keep forgetting that the leftists here are illiterate when it comes to the economy. JEEEZUS.

Do you really want to take a look at Trump's economic record? The job losses on his watch, the damage to the economy, the closed businesses, the massive deficits?

Because like his COVID response, its a record of spectacular failure.

So you would have preferred 2 million deaths by keeping the economy open. That's insane.

Goodness no. I would have preferred a competent COVID response from the President and some actual leadership.

It looks like I'll have to wait until mid January for that.

So what should Trump have done?

How about....not lie to the American public about the threat.

How about.....not pushing drugs unproven to treat COVID.

How about......delegating vital duties of our COVID response to seasoned professionals with decades of experience rather than his son-in-law.

How about.....consistent messaging on the safety precautions that work. Like masks and social distancing.

How about....leading by example.

How about....leading at all. We lost 1600 people yesterday alone. We're averaging more than 1000 deaths a day. That's more than two 911's a week. And the president has barely been seen.

How about.....no promoting conspiracy theorists spouting nonsense about 'demon semen' in Presidential communications and the RNC?

How about....not holding massive 'mask optional' super spreader events that put even TRUMP into the ICU.

How about.....preparation, like stocking up our national reserves of PPE equipment.

How about......not spreading conspiracy theories about the virus.

How about.....a cohesive national policy to combat the virus.

How about.....not actively trying to undermine confidence in our healthcare experts.

How about......even attending a COVID task force meeting in the last 5 months.

151 out of 164 nations have a better record on COVID than we do. Clearly, better respones than our horrid failure can be done.

Was the President right to shut down the economy last Spring?

Did the president shut down the economy last spring?

Oh now you're gonna play dumb. You can't have it both ways.

You asked me what Trump should have done differently. I gave you more than a dozen specific examples and you ignored them all.

But tell us more about 'playing dumb'.

You blamed Trump for the bad economy when the truth is he deliberately shut it down because of Covid. Now you claim he didn't shut it down. Like I said, you're playing dumb, and you're lying.

How did Trump 'shut down' the economy? By all means, describe the process to us.

As you've commited to ignoring the more than a DOZEN examples of his inexcusible and inept failures of Trump's COVID response....perhaps you'll be less likely to ignore your own claims.

NYT: The Trump Shutdown is “Inflicting Far Greater Damage” on the Economy

The economic damage from the Trump shutdown is “inflicting far greater damage” than previously estimated, according to the President’s own economists. The New York Times explains the Council of Economic Advisers’ analysis shows how a prolonged shutdown could cause a recession. So, the President...

www.majorityleader.gov

And if you read the first paragraph of what you posted.....

"The partial government shutdown is inflicting far greater damage on the United States economy than previously estimated, the White House acknowledged on Tuesday, as President Trump’s economists doubled projections of how much economic growth is being lost each week the standoff with Democrats continues.”

Sigh. This is some real JV shit.

Shutdown’s Economic Damage Starts to Pile Up, Threatening an End to Growth (Published 2019)

The White House doubled its estimate of the shutdown’s drag on growth, and other economists warned a long stalemate could push the economy into a contraction.

www.nytimes.com

That's from January 2019. They are referencing the 2018/2019 partial government shut down that Trump started when battling Pelosi over the budget.

Does your theory involve a delorean? Perhaps a blue police box?

Try this one.

U.S. economic shutdown saved up to 2.7 million lives, analysis finds

Slamming the brakes on the economy saved many more lives than it ruined, researchers conclude.

www.cbsnews.com

Do you even read what you're posting?

I doesn't even mention Trump. Let alone attribute shutdowns to him.

Try again. How did Trump shut down the economy? Specifically.

And maybe read what you're spamming this time.

 

[MaryL]

‘Is he even president anymore?’ Loser Trump ‘more or less abandoning his job to sulk in the White House’

rump has basically given up on doing the job that he’s hoping to hang onto through legal challenges, according to multiple reporters.
The president has been largely holed up inside the White House with no public events on his schedule and focusing on efforts to challenge his election loss to Joe Biden and punish disloyal officials.
“The administration is not talking about a coronavirus relief package at all,” Politico’s Jake Sherman told MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “There needs to be money to distribute this vaccine, legislation, laws in place, a mechanism to inoculate our country from this horrible virus and this administration, I wrote this in ‘Playbook’ this morning, is he even president anymore? He’s not in public, not on Capitol Hill, not doing any of the things he needs to do even from a bare bones level.”
“I’m in the Capitol every day,” he added. “I haven’t seen a member of the administration in talks with Congress with the leadership for days, weeks, since before the election. So it’s just a stunning level of kind of just silence. It’s like when bars go up on the TV. It’s stunning. I don’t know if it’s ever going to end, and frankly, the president is pushed along by people like Lindsey Graham, who offered 15 different excuses for why Donald Trump might be president. Kevin McCarthy said yesterday we don’t know the results of the election, but allowed it’s driving towards a Joe Biden victory. He’s in a bubble, alternate reality.”

Associated Press reporter Jonathan Lemire agreed, and he said Republicans are growing nervous that this dereliction of duty could cost their Senate majority in Georgia’s runoff elections.
“There is a concern that this utter inaction, this now two weeks of the president more or less abandoning his job to sulk in the White House, is maybe hurting them,” Lemire said, “is going to hurt their voters, depress excitement there, that are not sure this is going to animate them like so many Republicans on Capitol Hill believe.”

I wouldn't mind kicking Trump out of office, if it didn't mean we empowered a party that wants to destroy national identity, questions sexual identity, wants to defund police and sanctions actively or passivity race riots. I really believed Americans were smarter than this. (And coincidentally, look at the nationality of the big stock holder in the main stream media now).

 

[BS Filter]

I submit that a fairly large % of those job gains you attribute to him are federal government hirees who produce $0.00 in GDP.

LOL

You're wrong about that too. Here are the numbers from the private sector...

Employed (Private Sector)

Clinton ... +20,970,000
Bush ............... -387,000
Obama ... +11,849,000
Trump ......... -2,481,000

Public sector...

Clinton ....... +1,934,000
Bush ............ +1,744,000
Obama ............ -277,000
Trump .............. -773,000

You're cherry picking numbers without context.

Black males make up 6% of the US population. NBA is 85% black. So is the NBA racist?

LOL

By "cherry-picking," you mean posting the actual numbers for the entirety of each respective presidency.

By cherry picking I mean doing it at a point in time vs. what really happened and what led to those results. No COVID and Trump's numbers are great and he likely wins a 2nd term. Context matters. Any president in his position would look bad as we had to shut down the economy.

Trump's pre-covid numbers were abysmal. They actually went up with COVID....and then back down when his incompetence really began to shine.

If Trump hadn't suppressed his own votes by shitting on mail in ballots and hadn't been so wildly incompetent in his response to COVID, he may have won.

Alas, he did. And he was.

What? His numbers on how he ran the economy were abysmal? LOL

I am tired of your one way conspiracy theory diatribe. Troll someone else, fat boy.

His approval ratings before the Marchi 16th lockdowns marked the nation taking COVID very seriously were absymal. Just before the lock down his job approval ratings were hovering around 42%.

No president has ever been relected with numbers that low.

Polls....yeah they were excellent. Those ratings were run low by the biased media. What was his approval rating on the economy? High 50s. Stop your trolling, fat boy. He nearly won again with COVID. Without COVID he definitely wins as there are fewer mail in ballots as well.

You're the one citing 'his numbers'. And when 'his numbers' don't support your narrative, you attack the validity of 'his numbers'.

If you're gonna wipe your ass with your own argument, just give me a head's up in advance. It will save us both time.

You can't see well with your head inside your grocery exit.

Or.....Trump's numbers were abysmal before COVID.

Nah.

He thinks I was discussing poll numbers. I keep forgetting that the leftists here are illiterate when it comes to the economy. JEEEZUS.

Do you really want to take a look at Trump's economic record? The job losses on his watch, the damage to the economy, the closed businesses, the massive deficits?

Because like his COVID response, its a record of spectacular failure.

So you would have preferred 2 million deaths by keeping the economy open. That's insane.

Goodness no. I would have preferred a competent COVID response from the President and some actual leadership.

It looks like I'll have to wait until mid January for that.

So what should Trump have done?

How about....not lie to the American public about the threat.

How about.....not pushing drugs unproven to treat COVID.

How about......delegating vital duties of our COVID response to seasoned professionals with decades of experience rather than his son-in-law.

How about.....consistent messaging on the safety precautions that work. Like masks and social distancing.

How about....leading by example.

How about....leading at all. We lost 1600 people yesterday alone. We're averaging more than 1000 deaths a day. That's more than two 911's a week. And the president has barely been seen.

How about.....no promoting conspiracy theorists spouting nonsense about 'demon semen' in Presidential communications and the RNC?

How about....not holding massive 'mask optional' super spreader events that put even TRUMP into the ICU.

How about.....preparation, like stocking up our national reserves of PPE equipment.

How about......not spreading conspiracy theories about the virus.

How about.....a cohesive national policy to combat the virus.

How about.....not actively trying to undermine confidence in our healthcare experts.

How about......even attending a COVID task force meeting in the last 5 months.

151 out of 164 nations have a better record on COVID than we do. Clearly, better respones than our horrid failure can be done.

Was the President right to shut down the economy last Spring?

Did the president shut down the economy last spring?

Oh now you're gonna play dumb. You can't have it both ways.

You asked me what Trump should have done differently. I gave you more than a dozen specific examples and you ignored them all.

But tell us more about 'playing dumb'.

You blamed Trump for the bad economy when the truth is he deliberately shut it down because of Covid. Now you claim he didn't shut it down. Like I said, you're playing dumb, and you're lying.

How did Trump 'shut down' the economy? By all means, describe the process to us.

As you've commited to ignoring the more than a DOZEN examples of his inexcusible and inept failures of Trump's COVID response....perhaps you'll be less likely to ignore your own claims.

NYT: The Trump Shutdown is “Inflicting Far Greater Damage” on the Economy

The economic damage from the Trump shutdown is “inflicting far greater damage” than previously estimated, according to the President’s own economists. The New York Times explains the Council of Economic Advisers’ analysis shows how a prolonged shutdown could cause a recession. So, the President...

www.majorityleader.gov

And if you read the first paragraph of what you posted.....

"The partial government shutdown is inflicting far greater damage on the United States economy than previously estimated, the White House acknowledged on Tuesday, as President Trump’s economists doubled projections of how much economic growth is being lost each week the standoff with Democrats continues.”

Sigh. This is some real JV shit.

Shutdown’s Economic Damage Starts to Pile Up, Threatening an End to Growth (Published 2019)

The White House doubled its estimate of the shutdown’s drag on growth, and other economists warned a long stalemate could push the economy into a contraction.

www.nytimes.com

That's from January 2019. They are referencing the 2018/2019 partial government shut down that Trump started when battling Pelosi over the budget.

Does your theory involve a delorean? Perhaps a blue police box?

Try this one.

U.S. economic shutdown saved up to 2.7 million lives, analysis finds

Slamming the brakes on the economy saved many more lives than it ruined, researchers conclude.

www.cbsnews.com

Do you even read what you're posting?

I doesn't even mention Trump. Let alone attribute shutdowns to him.

Try again. How did Trump shut down the economy? Specifically.

And maybe read what you're spamming this time.

I submit that a fairly large % of those job gains you attribute to him are federal government hirees who produce $0.00 in GDP.

LOL

You're wrong about that too. Here are the numbers from the private sector...

Employed (Private Sector)

Clinton ... +20,970,000
Bush ............... -387,000
Obama ... +11,849,000
Trump ......... -2,481,000

Public sector...

Clinton ....... +1,934,000
Bush ............ +1,744,000
Obama ............ -277,000
Trump .............. -773,000

You're cherry picking numbers without context.

Black males make up 6% of the US population. NBA is 85% black. So is the NBA racist?

LOL

By "cherry-picking," you mean posting the actual numbers for the entirety of each respective presidency.

By cherry picking I mean doing it at a point in time vs. what really happened and what led to those results. No COVID and Trump's numbers are great and he likely wins a 2nd term. Context matters. Any president in his position would look bad as we had to shut down the economy.

Trump's pre-covid numbers were abysmal. They actually went up with COVID....and then back down when his incompetence really began to shine.

If Trump hadn't suppressed his own votes by shitting on mail in ballots and hadn't been so wildly incompetent in his response to COVID, he may have won.

Alas, he did. And he was.

What? His numbers on how he ran the economy were abysmal? LOL

I am tired of your one way conspiracy theory diatribe. Troll someone else, fat boy.

His approval ratings before the Marchi 16th lockdowns marked the nation taking COVID very seriously were absymal. Just before the lock down his job approval ratings were hovering around 42%.

No president has ever been relected with numbers that low.

Polls....yeah they were excellent. Those ratings were run low by the biased media. What was his approval rating on the economy? High 50s. Stop your trolling, fat boy. He nearly won again with COVID. Without COVID he definitely wins as there are fewer mail in ballots as well.

You're the one citing 'his numbers'. And when 'his numbers' don't support your narrative, you attack the validity of 'his numbers'.

If you're gonna wipe your ass with your own argument, just give me a head's up in advance. It will save us both time.

You can't see well with your head inside your grocery exit.

Or.....Trump's numbers were abysmal before COVID.

Nah.

He thinks I was discussing poll numbers. I keep forgetting that the leftists here are illiterate when it comes to the economy. JEEEZUS.

Do you really want to take a look at Trump's economic record? The job losses on his watch, the damage to the economy, the closed businesses, the massive deficits?

Because like his COVID response, its a record of spectacular failure.

So you would have preferred 2 million deaths by keeping the economy open. That's insane.

Goodness no. I would have preferred a competent COVID response from the President and some actual leadership.

It looks like I'll have to wait until mid January for that.

So what should Trump have done?

How about....not lie to the American public about the threat.

How about.....not pushing drugs unproven to treat COVID.

How about......delegating vital duties of our COVID response to seasoned professionals with decades of experience rather than his son-in-law.

How about.....consistent messaging on the safety precautions that work. Like masks and social distancing.

How about....leading by example.

How about....leading at all. We lost 1600 people yesterday alone. We're averaging more than 1000 deaths a day. That's more than two 911's a week. And the president has barely been seen.

How about.....no promoting conspiracy theorists spouting nonsense about 'demon semen' in Presidential communications and the RNC?

How about....not holding massive 'mask optional' super spreader events that put even TRUMP into the ICU.

How about.....preparation, like stocking up our national reserves of PPE equipment.

How about......not spreading conspiracy theories about the virus.

How about.....a cohesive national policy to combat the virus.

How about.....not actively trying to undermine confidence in our healthcare experts.

How about......even attending a COVID task force meeting in the last 5 months.

151 out of 164 nations have a better record on COVID than we do. Clearly, better respones than our horrid failure can be done.

Was the President right to shut down the economy last Spring?

Did the president shut down the economy last spring?

Oh now you're gonna play dumb. You can't have it both ways.

You asked me what Trump should have done differently. I gave you more than a dozen specific examples and you ignored them all.

But tell us more about 'playing dumb'.

You blamed Trump for the bad economy when the truth is he deliberately shut it down because of Covid. Now you claim he didn't shut it down. Like I said, you're playing dumb, and you're lying.

How did Trump 'shut down' the economy? By all means, describe the process to us.

As you've commited to ignoring the more than a DOZEN examples of his inexcusible and inept failures of Trump's COVID response....perhaps you'll be less likely to ignore your own claims.

NYT: The Trump Shutdown is “Inflicting Far Greater Damage” on the Economy

The economic damage from the Trump shutdown is “inflicting far greater damage” than previously estimated, according to the President’s own economists. The New York Times explains the Council of Economic Advisers’ analysis shows how a prolonged shutdown could cause a recession. So, the President...

www.majorityleader.gov

And if you read the first paragraph of what you posted.....

"The partial government shutdown is inflicting far greater damage on the United States economy than previously estimated, the White House acknowledged on Tuesday, as President Trump’s economists doubled projections of how much economic growth is being lost each week the standoff with Democrats continues.”

Sigh. This is some real JV shit.

Shutdown’s Economic Damage Starts to Pile Up, Threatening an End to Growth (Published 2019)

The White House doubled its estimate of the shutdown’s drag on growth, and other economists warned a long stalemate could push the economy into a contraction.

www.nytimes.com

That's from January 2019. They are referencing the 2018/2019 partial government shut down that Trump started when battling Pelosi over the budget.

Does your theory involve a delorean? Perhaps a blue police box?

Try this one.

U.S. economic shutdown saved up to 2.7 million lives, analysis finds

Slamming the brakes on the economy saved many more lives than it ruined, researchers conclude.

www.cbsnews.com

Do you even read what you're posting?

I doesn't even mention Trump. Let alone attribute shutdowns to him.

Try again. How did Trump shut down the economy? Specifically.

And maybe read what you're spamming this time.

What do you call this, you fucking idiot. Sick fucking shithead.

Trump calls for shutdown until April 30

President Donald Trump is extending the voluntary national shutdown for a month as sickness and death from the coronavirus pandemic rise in the U.S.

www.modernhealthcare.com

 

[Faun]

I submit that a fairly large % of those job gains you attribute to him are federal government hirees who produce $0.00 in GDP.

LOL

You're wrong about that too. Here are the numbers from the private sector...

Employed (Private Sector)

Clinton ... +20,970,000
Bush ............... -387,000
Obama ... +11,849,000
Trump ......... -2,481,000

Public sector...

Clinton ....... +1,934,000
Bush ............ +1,744,000
Obama ............ -277,000
Trump .............. -773,000

You're cherry picking numbers without context.

Black males make up 6% of the US population. NBA is 85% black. So is the NBA racist?

LOL

By "cherry-picking," you mean posting the actual numbers for the entirety of each respective presidency.

By cherry picking I mean doing it at a point in time vs. what really happened and what led to those results. No COVID and Trump's numbers are great and he likely wins a 2nd term. Context matters. Any president in his position would look bad as we had to shut down the economy.

Trump's pre-covid numbers were abysmal. They actually went up with COVID....and then back down when his incompetence really began to shine.

If Trump hadn't suppressed his own votes by shitting on mail in ballots and hadn't been so wildly incompetent in his response to COVID, he may have won.

Alas, he did. And he was.

What? His numbers on how he ran the economy were abysmal? LOL

I am tired of your one way conspiracy theory diatribe. Troll someone else, fat boy.

His approval ratings before the Marchi 16th lockdowns marked the nation taking COVID very seriously were absymal. Just before the lock down his job approval ratings were hovering around 42%.

No president has ever been relected with numbers that low.

Polls....yeah they were excellent. Those ratings were run low by the biased media. What was his approval rating on the economy? High 50s. Stop your trolling, fat boy. He nearly won again with COVID. Without COVID he definitely wins as there are fewer mail in ballots as well.

You're the one citing 'his numbers'. And when 'his numbers' don't support your narrative, you attack the validity of 'his numbers'.

If you're gonna wipe your ass with your own argument, just give me a head's up in advance. It will save us both time.

You can't see well with your head inside your grocery exit.

Or.....Trump's numbers were abysmal before COVID.

Nah.

He thinks I was discussing poll numbers. I keep forgetting that the leftists here are illiterate when it comes to the economy. JEEEZUS.

Do you really want to take a look at Trump's economic record? The job losses on his watch, the damage to the economy, the closed businesses, the massive deficits?

Because like his COVID response, its a record of spectacular failure.

So you would have preferred 2 million deaths by keeping the economy open. That's insane.

Goodness no. I would have preferred a competent COVID response from the President and some actual leadership.

It looks like I'll have to wait until mid January for that.

So what should Trump have done?

How about....not lie to the American public about the threat.

How about.....not pushing drugs unproven to treat COVID.

How about......delegating vital duties of our COVID response to seasoned professionals with decades of experience rather than his son-in-law.

How about.....consistent messaging on the safety precautions that work. Like masks and social distancing.

How about....leading by example.

How about....leading at all. We lost 1600 people yesterday alone. We're averaging more than 1000 deaths a day. That's more than two 911's a week. And the president has barely been seen.

How about.....no promoting conspiracy theorists spouting nonsense about 'demon semen' in Presidential communications and the RNC?

How about....not holding massive 'mask optional' super spreader events that put even TRUMP into the ICU.

How about.....preparation, like stocking up our national reserves of PPE equipment.

How about......not spreading conspiracy theories about the virus.

How about.....a cohesive national policy to combat the virus.

How about.....not actively trying to undermine confidence in our healthcare experts.

How about......even attending a COVID task force meeting in the last 5 months.

151 out of 164 nations have a better record on COVID than we do. Clearly, better respones than our horrid failure can be done.

Was the President right to shut down the economy last Spring?

Did the president shut down the economy last spring?

Oh now you're gonna play dumb. You can't have it both ways.

You asked me what Trump should have done differently. I gave you more than a dozen specific examples and you ignored them all.

But tell us more about 'playing dumb'.

You blamed Trump for the bad economy when the truth is he deliberately shut it down because of Covid. Now you claim he didn't shut it down. Like I said, you're playing dumb, and you're lying.

How did Trump 'shut down' the economy? By all means, describe the process to us.

As you've commited to ignoring the more than a DOZEN examples of his inexcusible and inept failures of Trump's COVID response....perhaps you'll be less likely to ignore your own claims.

NYT: The Trump Shutdown is “Inflicting Far Greater Damage” on the Economy

The economic damage from the Trump shutdown is “inflicting far greater damage” than previously estimated, according to the President’s own economists. The New York Times explains the Council of Economic Advisers’ analysis shows how a prolonged shutdown could cause a recession. So, the President...

www.majorityleader.gov

And if you read the first paragraph of what you posted.....

"The partial government shutdown is inflicting far greater damage on the United States economy than previously estimated, the White House acknowledged on Tuesday, as President Trump’s economists doubled projections of how much economic growth is being lost each week the standoff with Democrats continues.”

Sigh. This is some real JV shit.

Shutdown’s Economic Damage Starts to Pile Up, Threatening an End to Growth (Published 2019)

The White House doubled its estimate of the shutdown’s drag on growth, and other economists warned a long stalemate could push the economy into a contraction.

www.nytimes.com

That's from January 2019. They are referencing the 2018/2019 partial government shut down that Trump started when battling Pelosi over the budget.

Does your theory involve a delorean? Perhaps a blue police box?

Try this one.

U.S. economic shutdown saved up to 2.7 million lives, analysis finds

Slamming the brakes on the economy saved many more lives than it ruined, researchers conclude.

www.cbsnews.com

Do you even read what you're posting?

I doesn't even mention Trump. Let alone attribute shutdowns to him.

Try again. How did Trump shut down the economy? Specifically.

And maybe read what you're spamming this time.

I submit that a fairly large % of those job gains you attribute to him are federal government hirees who produce $0.00 in GDP.

LOL

You're wrong about that too. Here are the numbers from the private sector...

Employed (Private Sector)

Clinton ... +20,970,000
Bush ............... -387,000
Obama ... +11,849,000
Trump ......... -2,481,000

Public sector...

Clinton ....... +1,934,000
Bush ............ +1,744,000
Obama ............ -277,000
Trump .............. -773,000

You're cherry picking numbers without context.

Black males make up 6% of the US population. NBA is 85% black. So is the NBA racist?

LOL

By "cherry-picking," you mean posting the actual numbers for the entirety of each respective presidency.

By cherry picking I mean doing it at a point in time vs. what really happened and what led to those results. No COVID and Trump's numbers are great and he likely wins a 2nd term. Context matters. Any president in his position would look bad as we had to shut down the economy.

Trump's pre-covid numbers were abysmal. They actually went up with COVID....and then back down when his incompetence really began to shine.

If Trump hadn't suppressed his own votes by shitting on mail in ballots and hadn't been so wildly incompetent in his response to COVID, he may have won.

Alas, he did. And he was.

What? His numbers on how he ran the economy were abysmal? LOL

I am tired of your one way conspiracy theory diatribe. Troll someone else, fat boy.

His approval ratings before the Marchi 16th lockdowns marked the nation taking COVID very seriously were absymal. Just before the lock down his job approval ratings were hovering around 42%.

No president has ever been relected with numbers that low.

Polls....yeah they were excellent. Those ratings were run low by the biased media. What was his approval rating on the economy? High 50s. Stop your trolling, fat boy. He nearly won again with COVID. Without COVID he definitely wins as there are fewer mail in ballots as well.

You're the one citing 'his numbers'. And when 'his numbers' don't support your narrative, you attack the validity of 'his numbers'.

If you're gonna wipe your ass with your own argument, just give me a head's up in advance. It will save us both time.

You can't see well with your head inside your grocery exit.

Or.....Trump's numbers were abysmal before COVID.

Nah.

He thinks I was discussing poll numbers. I keep forgetting that the leftists here are illiterate when it comes to the economy. JEEEZUS.

Do you really want to take a look at Trump's economic record? The job losses on his watch, the damage to the economy, the closed businesses, the massive deficits?

Because like his COVID response, its a record of spectacular failure.

So you would have preferred 2 million deaths by keeping the economy open. That's insane.

Goodness no. I would have preferred a competent COVID response from the President and some actual leadership.

It looks like I'll have to wait until mid January for that.

So what should Trump have done?

How about....not lie to the American public about the threat.

How about.....not pushing drugs unproven to treat COVID.

How about......delegating vital duties of our COVID response to seasoned professionals with decades of experience rather than his son-in-law.

How about.....consistent messaging on the safety precautions that work. Like masks and social distancing.

How about....leading by example.

How about....leading at all. We lost 1600 people yesterday alone. We're averaging more than 1000 deaths a day. That's more than two 911's a week. And the president has barely been seen.

How about.....no promoting conspiracy theorists spouting nonsense about 'demon semen' in Presidential communications and the RNC?

How about....not holding massive 'mask optional' super spreader events that put even TRUMP into the ICU.

How about.....preparation, like stocking up our national reserves of PPE equipment.

How about......not spreading conspiracy theories about the virus.

How about.....a cohesive national policy to combat the virus.

How about.....not actively trying to undermine confidence in our healthcare experts.

How about......even attending a COVID task force meeting in the last 5 months.

151 out of 164 nations have a better record on COVID than we do. Clearly, better respones than our horrid failure can be done.

Was the President right to shut down the economy last Spring?

Did the president shut down the economy last spring?

Oh now you're gonna play dumb. You can't have it both ways.

You asked me what Trump should have done differently. I gave you more than a dozen specific examples and you ignored them all.

But tell us more about 'playing dumb'.

You blamed Trump for the bad economy when the truth is he deliberately shut it down because of Covid. Now you claim he didn't shut it down. Like I said, you're playing dumb, and you're lying.

How did Trump 'shut down' the economy? By all means, describe the process to us.

As you've commited to ignoring the more than a DOZEN examples of his inexcusible and inept failures of Trump's COVID response....perhaps you'll be less likely to ignore your own claims.

NYT: The Trump Shutdown is “Inflicting Far Greater Damage” on the Economy

The economic damage from the Trump shutdown is “inflicting far greater damage” than previously estimated, according to the President’s own economists. The New York Times explains the Council of Economic Advisers’ analysis shows how a prolonged shutdown could cause a recession. So, the President...

www.majorityleader.gov

And if you read the first paragraph of what you posted.....

"The partial government shutdown is inflicting far greater damage on the United States economy than previously estimated, the White House acknowledged on Tuesday, as President Trump’s economists doubled projections of how much economic growth is being lost each week the standoff with Democrats continues.”

Sigh. This is some real JV shit.

Shutdown’s Economic Damage Starts to Pile Up, Threatening an End to Growth (Published 2019)

The White House doubled its estimate of the shutdown’s drag on growth, and other economists warned a long stalemate could push the economy into a contraction.

www.nytimes.com

That's from January 2019. They are referencing the 2018/2019 partial government shut down that Trump started when battling Pelosi over the budget.

Does your theory involve a delorean? Perhaps a blue police box?

Try this one.

U.S. economic shutdown saved up to 2.7 million lives, analysis finds

Slamming the brakes on the economy saved many more lives than it ruined, researchers conclude.

www.cbsnews.com

Do you even read what you're posting?

I doesn't even mention Trump. Let alone attribute shutdowns to him.

Try again. How did Trump shut down the economy? Specifically.

And maybe read what you're spamming this time.

What do you call this, you fucking idiot.

Trump calls for shutdown until April 30

President Donald Trump is extending the voluntary national shutdown for a month as sickness and death from the coronavirus pandemic rise in the U.S.

www.modernhealthcare.com

LOLOL

Strike three, you're out!

Dumbfuck, your own link shows he "asked" for Americans to voluntarily shutdown. That's not him shutting down the country.

President Donald Trump is extending the voluntary national shutdown for a month as sickness and death from the coronavirus pandemic rise in the U.S.

The initial 15-day period of social distancing urged by the federal government expires Monday and Trump had expressed interest in relaxing the national​

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I submit that a fairly large % of those job gains you attribute to him are federal government hirees who produce $0.00 in GDP.

LOL

You're wrong about that too. Here are the numbers from the private sector...

Employed (Private Sector)

Clinton ... +20,970,000
Bush ............... -387,000
Obama ... +11,849,000
Trump ......... -2,481,000

Public sector...

Clinton ....... +1,934,000
Bush ............ +1,744,000
Obama ............ -277,000
Trump .............. -773,000

You're cherry picking numbers without context.

Black males make up 6% of the US population. NBA is 85% black. So is the NBA racist?

LOL

By "cherry-picking," you mean posting the actual numbers for the entirety of each respective presidency.

By cherry picking I mean doing it at a point in time vs. what really happened and what led to those results. No COVID and Trump's numbers are great and he likely wins a 2nd term. Context matters. Any president in his position would look bad as we had to shut down the economy.

Trump's pre-covid numbers were abysmal. They actually went up with COVID....and then back down when his incompetence really began to shine.

If Trump hadn't suppressed his own votes by shitting on mail in ballots and hadn't been so wildly incompetent in his response to COVID, he may have won.

Alas, he did. And he was.

What? His numbers on how he ran the economy were abysmal? LOL

I am tired of your one way conspiracy theory diatribe. Troll someone else, fat boy.

His approval ratings before the Marchi 16th lockdowns marked the nation taking COVID very seriously were absymal. Just before the lock down his job approval ratings were hovering around 42%.

No president has ever been relected with numbers that low.

Polls....yeah they were excellent. Those ratings were run low by the biased media. What was his approval rating on the economy? High 50s. Stop your trolling, fat boy. He nearly won again with COVID. Without COVID he definitely wins as there are fewer mail in ballots as well.

You're the one citing 'his numbers'. And when 'his numbers' don't support your narrative, you attack the validity of 'his numbers'.

If you're gonna wipe your ass with your own argument, just give me a head's up in advance. It will save us both time.

You can't see well with your head inside your grocery exit.

Or.....Trump's numbers were abysmal before COVID.

Nah.

He thinks I was discussing poll numbers. I keep forgetting that the leftists here are illiterate when it comes to the economy. JEEEZUS.

Do you really want to take a look at Trump's economic record? The job losses on his watch, the damage to the economy, the closed businesses, the massive deficits?

Because like his COVID response, its a record of spectacular failure.

So you would have preferred 2 million deaths by keeping the economy open. That's insane.

Goodness no. I would have preferred a competent COVID response from the President and some actual leadership.

It looks like I'll have to wait until mid January for that.

So what should Trump have done?

How about....not lie to the American public about the threat.

How about.....not pushing drugs unproven to treat COVID.

How about......delegating vital duties of our COVID response to seasoned professionals with decades of experience rather than his son-in-law.

How about.....consistent messaging on the safety precautions that work. Like masks and social distancing.

How about....leading by example.

How about....leading at all. We lost 1600 people yesterday alone. We're averaging more than 1000 deaths a day. That's more than two 911's a week. And the president has barely been seen.

How about.....no promoting conspiracy theorists spouting nonsense about 'demon semen' in Presidential communications and the RNC?

How about....not holding massive 'mask optional' super spreader events that put even TRUMP into the ICU.

How about.....preparation, like stocking up our national reserves of PPE equipment.

How about......not spreading conspiracy theories about the virus.

How about.....a cohesive national policy to combat the virus.

How about.....not actively trying to undermine confidence in our healthcare experts.

How about......even attending a COVID task force meeting in the last 5 months.

151 out of 164 nations have a better record on COVID than we do. Clearly, better respones than our horrid failure can be done.

Was the President right to shut down the economy last Spring?

Did the president shut down the economy last spring?

Oh now you're gonna play dumb. You can't have it both ways.

You asked me what Trump should have done differently. I gave you more than a dozen specific examples and you ignored them all.

But tell us more about 'playing dumb'.

You blamed Trump for the bad economy when the truth is he deliberately shut it down because of Covid. Now you claim he didn't shut it down. Like I said, you're playing dumb, and you're lying.

How did Trump 'shut down' the economy? By all means, describe the process to us.

As you've commited to ignoring the more than a DOZEN examples of his inexcusible and inept failures of Trump's COVID response....perhaps you'll be less likely to ignore your own claims.

NYT: The Trump Shutdown is “Inflicting Far Greater Damage” on the Economy

The economic damage from the Trump shutdown is “inflicting far greater damage” than previously estimated, according to the President’s own economists. The New York Times explains the Council of Economic Advisers’ analysis shows how a prolonged shutdown could cause a recession. So, the President...

www.majorityleader.gov

And if you read the first paragraph of what you posted.....

"The partial government shutdown is inflicting far greater damage on the United States economy than previously estimated, the White House acknowledged on Tuesday, as President Trump’s economists doubled projections of how much economic growth is being lost each week the standoff with Democrats continues.”

Sigh. This is some real JV shit.

Shutdown’s Economic Damage Starts to Pile Up, Threatening an End to Growth (Published 2019)

The White House doubled its estimate of the shutdown’s drag on growth, and other economists warned a long stalemate could push the economy into a contraction.

www.nytimes.com

That's from January 2019. They are referencing the 2018/2019 partial government shut down that Trump started when battling Pelosi over the budget.

Does your theory involve a delorean? Perhaps a blue police box?

Try this one.

U.S. economic shutdown saved up to 2.7 million lives, analysis finds

Slamming the brakes on the economy saved many more lives than it ruined, researchers conclude.

www.cbsnews.com

Do you even read what you're posting?

I doesn't even mention Trump. Let alone attribute shutdowns to him.

Try again. How did Trump shut down the economy? Specifically.

And maybe read what you're spamming this time.

I submit that a fairly large % of those job gains you attribute to him are federal government hirees who produce $0.00 in GDP.

LOL

You're wrong about that too. Here are the numbers from the private sector...

Employed (Private Sector)

Clinton ... +20,970,000
Bush ............... -387,000
Obama ... +11,849,000
Trump ......... -2,481,000

Public sector...

Clinton ....... +1,934,000
Bush ............ +1,744,000
Obama ............ -277,000
Trump .............. -773,000

You're cherry picking numbers without context.

Black males make up 6% of the US population. NBA is 85% black. So is the NBA racist?

LOL

By "cherry-picking," you mean posting the actual numbers for the entirety of each respective presidency.

By cherry picking I mean doing it at a point in time vs. what really happened and what led to those results. No COVID and Trump's numbers are great and he likely wins a 2nd term. Context matters. Any president in his position would look bad as we had to shut down the economy.

Trump's pre-covid numbers were abysmal. They actually went up with COVID....and then back down when his incompetence really began to shine.

If Trump hadn't suppressed his own votes by shitting on mail in ballots and hadn't been so wildly incompetent in his response to COVID, he may have won.

Alas, he did. And he was.

What? His numbers on how he ran the economy were abysmal? LOL

I am tired of your one way conspiracy theory diatribe. Troll someone else, fat boy.

His approval ratings before the Marchi 16th lockdowns marked the nation taking COVID very seriously were absymal. Just before the lock down his job approval ratings were hovering around 42%.

No president has ever been relected with numbers that low.

Polls....yeah they were excellent. Those ratings were run low by the biased media. What was his approval rating on the economy? High 50s. Stop your trolling, fat boy. He nearly won again with COVID. Without COVID he definitely wins as there are fewer mail in ballots as well.

You're the one citing 'his numbers'. And when 'his numbers' don't support your narrative, you attack the validity of 'his numbers'.

If you're gonna wipe your ass with your own argument, just give me a head's up in advance. It will save us both time.

You can't see well with your head inside your grocery exit.

Or.....Trump's numbers were abysmal before COVID.

Nah.

He thinks I was discussing poll numbers. I keep forgetting that the leftists here are illiterate when it comes to the economy. JEEEZUS.

Do you really want to take a look at Trump's economic record? The job losses on his watch, the damage to the economy, the closed businesses, the massive deficits?

Because like his COVID response, its a record of spectacular failure.

So you would have preferred 2 million deaths by keeping the economy open. That's insane.

Goodness no. I would have preferred a competent COVID response from the President and some actual leadership.

It looks like I'll have to wait until mid January for that.

So what should Trump have done?

How about....not lie to the American public about the threat.

How about.....not pushing drugs unproven to treat COVID.

How about......delegating vital duties of our COVID response to seasoned professionals with decades of experience rather than his son-in-law.

How about.....consistent messaging on the safety precautions that work. Like masks and social distancing.

How about....leading by example.

How about....leading at all. We lost 1600 people yesterday alone. We're averaging more than 1000 deaths a day. That's more than two 911's a week. And the president has barely been seen.

How about.....no promoting conspiracy theorists spouting nonsense about 'demon semen' in Presidential communications and the RNC?

How about....not holding massive 'mask optional' super spreader events that put even TRUMP into the ICU.

How about.....preparation, like stocking up our national reserves of PPE equipment.

How about......not spreading conspiracy theories about the virus.

How about.....a cohesive national policy to combat the virus.

How about.....not actively trying to undermine confidence in our healthcare experts.

How about......even attending a COVID task force meeting in the last 5 months.

151 out of 164 nations have a better record on COVID than we do. Clearly, better respones than our horrid failure can be done.

Was the President right to shut down the economy last Spring?

Did the president shut down the economy last spring?

Oh now you're gonna play dumb. You can't have it both ways.

You asked me what Trump should have done differently. I gave you more than a dozen specific examples and you ignored them all.

But tell us more about 'playing dumb'.

You blamed Trump for the bad economy when the truth is he deliberately shut it down because of Covid. Now you claim he didn't shut it down. Like I said, you're playing dumb, and you're lying.

How did Trump 'shut down' the economy? By all means, describe the process to us.

As you've commited to ignoring the more than a DOZEN examples of his inexcusible and inept failures of Trump's COVID response....perhaps you'll be less likely to ignore your own claims.

NYT: The Trump Shutdown is “Inflicting Far Greater Damage” on the Economy

The economic damage from the Trump shutdown is “inflicting far greater damage” than previously estimated, according to the President’s own economists. The New York Times explains the Council of Economic Advisers’ analysis shows how a prolonged shutdown could cause a recession. So, the President...

www.majorityleader.gov

And if you read the first paragraph of what you posted.....

"The partial government shutdown is inflicting far greater damage on the United States economy than previously estimated, the White House acknowledged on Tuesday, as President Trump’s economists doubled projections of how much economic growth is being lost each week the standoff with Democrats continues.”

Sigh. This is some real JV shit.

Shutdown’s Economic Damage Starts to Pile Up, Threatening an End to Growth (Published 2019)

The White House doubled its estimate of the shutdown’s drag on growth, and other economists warned a long stalemate could push the economy into a contraction.

www.nytimes.com

That's from January 2019. They are referencing the 2018/2019 partial government shut down that Trump started when battling Pelosi over the budget.

Does your theory involve a delorean? Perhaps a blue police box?

Try this one.

U.S. economic shutdown saved up to 2.7 million lives, analysis finds

Slamming the brakes on the economy saved many more lives than it ruined, researchers conclude.

www.cbsnews.com

Do you even read what you're posting?

I doesn't even mention Trump. Let alone attribute shutdowns to him.

Try again. How did Trump shut down the economy? Specifically.

And maybe read what you're spamming this time.

What do you call this, you fucking idiot. Sick fucking shithead.

Trump calls for shutdown until April 30

President Donald Trump is extending the voluntary national shutdown for a month as sickness and death from the coronavirus pandemic rise in the U.S.

www.modernhealthcare.com

When you respond to crazies you go crazy yourself.

 

[eddiew37]

AZOG
you don't have a fucking clue. Trump is flouting the rule of law. He may as well be spitting on the American flag and all you assholes on this board that blindly encourage his behavior are doing the same thing. Get it straight----there was an election, no fraud has been or will be found. You are suckers being sucked in by a grifter and it appears that you are too stupid to see it. This has NOTHING to do with MSM, only in your addled mind does that have any meaning.

 

[xyz]

If he does nothing and just golfs, I don't care.

There is a theory that he wants to do some scorched earth policy type thing where he screws up things really bad (I don't mean COVID, other things) to have revenge. It is basically treason, and could be a total disaster for America.

 

[BS Filter]

If he does nothing and just golfs, I don't care.

There is a theory that he wants to do some scorched earth policy type thing where he screws up things really bad (I don't mean COVID, other things) to have revenge. It is basically treason, and could be a total disaster for America.

He should resist and not cooperate at all, just like Democrats did for 4 years.

 

[9thIDdoc]

‘Is he even president anymore?’ Loser Trump ‘more or less abandoning his job to sulk in the White House’

Obviously he's dealing with the Dems. attempt to corrupt the voting process and steal the election which is exactly what he should be doing.

Trump wasn't doing his job even before he lost reelection.

He hasn't lost the election and you obviously either don't know what he was doing or have no understanding of what the job entails.

 

[9thIDdoc]

‘Is he even president anymore?’ Loser Trump ‘more or less abandoning his job to sulk in the White House’

Obviously he's dealing with the Dems. attempt to corrupt the voting process and steal the election which is exactly what he should be doing.

Trump wasn't doing his job even before he lost reelection.

He did more in 4 years than Biden has in 47, and he did it without pay.

LOL

At least Biden was able to get re-elected. Something Trump won't have on his legacy.

Fat Lady ain't sung. Wishful thinking. Biden is far too much of a loser to ever be a winner.

 

[Faun]

‘Is he even president anymore?’ Loser Trump ‘more or less abandoning his job to sulk in the White House’

Obviously he's dealing with the Dems. attempt to corrupt the voting process and steal the election which is exactly what he should be doing.

Trump wasn't doing his job even before he lost reelection.

He did more in 4 years than Biden has in 47, and he did it without pay.

LOL

At least Biden was able to get re-elected. Something Trump won't have on his legacy.

Fat Lady ain't sung. Wishful thinking. Biden is far too much of a loser to ever be a winner.

LOL

The fat lady is singing.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Good grief. The lengths a liberal will go to have something to complain about with Trump. I don't know how they will be able to harness all that hatred when he's gone. I guess they will take it out on innocent people that don't think like they do.

Should Trump leave the White House, he will be completely un-tethered. He will not disappear.

Biden, on the other hand, will find political vengeance falling upon his head. His son is his albatross.

Mirabile dictu.

 

[MaryAnne11]

After he leaves the White House, if he simply fades into the sunset idiot libs will whine that he's avoiding the American people, the press, etc.

The only thing I want to hear about the Orange Fraud after Jan 20 is that he's been convicted and is about to be sentenced.Other than that he's dead to me

Convicted of what?

Ask the AG of NY,,,, there are a few charges that will keep the scum up at night

No, dumbfuck, I'm asking you. You're the one saying he'll be convicted, so tell me what you think he'll be convicted for? What charges is he facing?

A LAUNDRY LIST
ut federal charges aren’t the likeliest way that The People v. Donald J. Trump will play out. State laws aren’t subject to presidential pardons, and they cover a host of crimes beyond those committed in the White House. When it comes to charging a former president, state attorneys general and county prosecutors can go places a U.S. Attorney can’t.
According to legal experts, the man most likely to drag Trump into court is the district attorney for Manhattan, Cyrus Vance  Jr. It’s a surprising scenario, given Vance’s well-deserved reputation as someone who has gone easy on the rich and famous. After taking office in 2010, he sought to reduce Jeffrey Epstein’s status as a sex offender, dropped an investigation into whether Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump  Jr. had committed fraud in the marketing of the Trump Soho, and initially decided not to prosecute Harvey Weinstein despite solid evidence of his sex crimes. “He has a reputation for being particularly cautious when it comes to going after rich people, because he knows that those are the ones who can afford the really formidable law firms,” says Victoria Bassetti, a fellow at the Brennan Center for Justice who served on the team of lawyers that oversaw the Senate impeachment trial of Bill Clinton. “And like most prosecutors, Vance is exceptionally protective of his win-loss rate.”
But it was Vance who stepped up when the federal case against Trump faltered. “He’s a politician,” observes Martin Sheil, a former IRS criminal investigator. “He’s got his finger up. He knows which way the wind’s blowing, and he knows the wind in New York is blowing against Trump. It’s in his political interest to join that bandwagon.”
Last year, after U.S. Attorneys in the Southern District dropped their investigation into the hush money that Trump had paid Stormy Daniels, Vance took up the case. Suspecting that l’affaire Stormy might prove to be part of a larger pattern of shady dealings, his office started digging into Trump’s finances. What Vance is investigating, according to court filings, is evidence of “extensive and protracted criminal conduct at the Trump Organization,” potentially involving bank fraud, tax fraud, and insurance fraud. The New York Times has detailed how Trump and his family have long falsified records to avoid taxes, and during testimony before Congress in 2019, Trump’s longtime fixer Michael Cohen stated that Trump had inflated the value of his assets to obtain a bank loan.
Crucially, all of these alleged crimes occurred before Trump took office. That means no claims of executive privilege would apply to any charges Vance might bring, and no presidential pardon could make them go away. A whole slew of potential objections and delays would be ruled out right off the bat. What’s more, the alleged offenses took place less than six years ago, within the statute of limitation for fraud in New York. Vance, in other words, is free to go after Trump not as a crooked president but as a common crook who happened to get elected president. And the fact that he has been pursuing these cases while Trump is president is a sign that he won’t be intimidated by the stature of the office after Trump leaves it.
In writing up an indictment against Trump, Vance’s team could try to string together a laundry list of offenses in hopes of presenting an overwhelming wall of guilt. But that approach, experts warn, can become confusing. “A two- or three-count indictment is easier to explain to a jury,” says Ilene Jaroslaw, a former assistant U.S. Attorney. “If they think the person had criminal intent, it doesn’t matter if it’s two counts or 20 counts, in most cases, because the sentence will be the same.”
There are two main charges that Vance is likely to pursue. The first is falsifying business records (N.Y. Penal Law § 175.10). During Cohen’s trial, federal prosecutors filed a sentencing memorandum that explained how the Trump Organization had mischaracterized hush-money payments as “legal expenses” in its bookkeeping. Under New York law, falsifying records by itself is only a misdemeanor, but if it results in the commission of another crime, it becomes a felony. And false business records frequently lead to another offense: tax fraud (N.Y. Tax Law § 1806).
If Trump cooked his books, observes Sheil, that false information would essentially “flow into the tax returns.” The first crime begets the second, making both the bookkeeper and the tax accountant liable. “Since you have several folks involved,” Sheil says, “you could either bring a conspiracy charge, maximum sentence five years, or you could charge each individual with aiding and abetting the preparation of a false tax return, with a max sentence of three years.”
To build a fraud case against Trump, Vance subpoenaed his financial records. But those records alone won’t be enough: To secure a conviction, Vance will need to convince a jury not only that Trump cheated on his taxes but that he intended to do so. “If you just have the documents, the defense will say that defendant didn’t have criminal intent,” Jaroslaw explains. “I call it the ‘I’m an idiot’ defense: ‘I made a mistake. I didn’t mean to do anything.’ ” Unfortunately for Trump, both Cohen and his longtime accountant, Allen Weisselberg, have already signaled their willingness to cooperate with prosecutors. “What’s great about having an accountant in the witness stand is that they can tell you about the conversation they had with the client,” Jaroslaw says.

Through appeals, Trump has managed to drag out the battle over his tax returns. The case has gone all the way to the Supreme Court, back down to the district court, and back up to the appeals court. But Trump has lost at every stage, and it appears that his appeals could be exhausted this fall. Once Vance gets the tax returns, Eisen estimates, he could be ready to indict Trump as early as the second quarter of 2021.
Sheil, for one, believes Vance may already have Trump’s financial records. It’s routine procedure, he notes, for criminal tax investigators working with the Manhattan DA to obtain personal and business tax returns that are material to their inquiry. But issuing a subpoena to Trump’s accountants may have been a way to signal to them that they could face criminal charges themselves unless they cooperate in the investigation.
Once indicted, Trump would be arraigned at New York Criminal Court, a towering Art Deco building at 100 Centre Street. Since a former president with a Secret Service detail can hardly slip away unnoticed, he would likely not be required to post bail or forfeit his passport while awaiting trial. His legal team, of course, would do everything it could to draw out the proceedings. Filing appeals has always been just another day at the office for Trump, who, by some estimates, has faced more than 4,000 lawsuits during the course of his career. But this time, his legal liability would extend to numerous other state and local jurisdictions, which will also be building cases against him. “There’s like 1,037 other things where, if anybody put what he did under a microscope, they would probably find an enormous amount of financial improprieties,” says Scott Shapiro, director of the Center for Law and Philosophy at Yale University.
Even accounting for legal delays, many experts predict that Trump would go to trial in Manhattan by 2023. The proceedings would take place at the New York State Supreme Court Building. Assuming that the judge was prepared for an endless barrage of motions and objections from Trump’s defense team, the trial might move quite quickly — no longer than a few months, according to some legal observers. And given the convictions that have been handed down against many of Trump’s top advisers, there’s reason to believe that even pro-Trump jurors can be persuaded to convict him. “The evidence was overwhelming,” concluded one MAGA supporter who served on the jury that convicted Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chairman. “I did not want [him] to be guilty. But he was, and no one is above the law.”
Trump’s conviction would seal the greatest downfall in American politics since Richard Nixon. Unlike his associates who were sentenced to prison on federal charges, Trump would not be eligible for a presidential pardon or commutation, even from himself. And while his lawyers would file every appeal they can think of, none of it would spare Trump the indignity of imprisonment. Unlike the federal court system, which often allows prisoners to remain free during the appeals process, state courts tend to waste no time in carrying out punishment. After someone is sentenced in New York City, their next stop is Rikers Island. Once there, as Trump awaited transfer to a state prison, the man who’d treated the presidency like a piggy bank would receive yet another handout at the public expense: a toothbrush and toothpaste, bedding, a towel, and a green plastic cup.
*This article appears in the September 14, 2020, issue of New York
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At most he'll owe a few million in back taxes.

BUT more importantly, his tax returns may be public, and we may find out whether he'll admit in legal document to owing Moscow and Bejing hundreds of millions.

Still jerking off to the thought of his tax returns, eh?

The guy who demands an answer to posts like that?

Yep. I'm an abrasive asshole to liberal bitches like you.

You are also funny to moderate Liberals like me who laugh at you making an ass of yourself!

 

[MaryAnne11]

You might also accept the fact that he will be president until January 20 and you can't do a damn thing about that.

Ah, but that feels fantastic. My calendar is marked for that date.....dude.

Well Billy boy, I hope your boyfriend fucks all the common sense right out of you as you celebrate.

Wow, that’s the first image you went to? Lol that’s pretty weird, man.

with respect to a liberal douchebag? Yes, it is the first place I went. Not weird, just consistent with your culture,

Lol only republicans are petty and childish enough to throw fits over what other people choose do with their genitals.

Funny how they preach freedom, yet fret so much over what other people do in their private lives! Projection?

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Good grief. The lengths a liberal will go to have something to complain about with Trump. I don't know how they will be able to harness all that hatred when he's gone. I guess they will take it out on innocent people that don't think like they do.

Dude....they're communists.
They lie compulsively.
Everything they say is 180 from the truth.

I agree but please, don't call me dude. It sounds like you are pulling on your 10th bong hit of the morning.

Duuuuude!!!

Anyhoo, Trump should be doing more than he is but since he was handed a possible defeat at the polls and the courts keep on telling him no the fact is Trump and his voting base have been sulking while a virus rages on...

 

[MaryAnne11]

I submit that a fairly large % of those job gains you attribute to him are federal government hirees who produce $0.00 in GDP.

LOL

You're wrong about that too. Here are the numbers from the private sector...

Employed (Private Sector)

Clinton ... +20,970,000
Bush ............... -387,000
Obama ... +11,849,000
Trump ......... -2,481,000

Public sector...

Clinton ....... +1,934,000
Bush ............ +1,744,000
Obama ............ -277,000
Trump .............. -773,000

You're cherry picking numbers without context.

Black males make up 6% of the US population. NBA is 85% black. So is the NBA racist?

LOL

By "cherry-picking," you mean posting the actual numbers for the entirety of each respective presidency.

By cherry picking I mean doing it at a point in time vs. what really happened and what led to those results. No COVID and Trump's numbers are great and he likely wins a 2nd term. Context matters. Any president in his position would look bad as we had to shut down the economy.

Trump's pre-covid numbers were abysmal. They actually went up with COVID....and then back down when his incompetence really began to shine.

If Trump hadn't suppressed his own votes by shitting on mail in ballots and hadn't been so wildly incompetent in his response to COVID, he may have won.

Alas, he did. And he was.

What? His numbers on how he ran the economy were abysmal? LOL

I am tired of your one way conspiracy theory diatribe. Troll someone else, fat boy.

His approval ratings before the Marchi 16th lockdowns marked the nation taking COVID very seriously were absymal. Just before the lock down his job approval ratings were hovering around 42%.

No president has ever been relected with numbers that low.

Polls....yeah they were excellent. Those ratings were run low by the biased media. What was his approval rating on the economy? High 50s. Stop your trolling, fat boy. He nearly won again with COVID. Without COVID he definitely wins as there are fewer mail in ballots as well.

You're the one citing 'his numbers'. And when 'his numbers' don't support your narrative, you attack the validity of 'his numbers'.

If you're gonna wipe your ass with your own argument, just give me a head's up in advance. It will save us both time.

You can't see well with your head inside your grocery exit.

Or.....Trump's numbers were abysmal before COVID.

Nah.

He thinks I was discussing poll numbers. I keep forgetting that the leftists here are illiterate when it comes to the economy. JEEEZUS.

Do you really want to take a look at Trump's economic record? The job losses on his watch, the damage to the economy, the closed businesses, the massive deficits?

Because like his COVID response, its a record of spectacular failure.

So you would have preferred 2 million deaths by keeping the economy open. That's insane.

Goodness no. I would have preferred a competent COVID response from the President and some actual leadership.

It looks like I'll have to wait until mid January for that.

So what should Trump have done?

they have no idea but they feel compelled to bash what he did do. Remember he was a racist xenophobe according to the left for stopping travel to China. Imagine how many more would have died if he hadn't taken that measure in JANUARY

I'm sure New York appreciated that while it was getting infected from Europe.

Can you imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth by the left if that had happened? Whoa Nellie!!!!

Ummmmmmmmm.... "the left"?


No no, not the obvious Composition Fallacy where "the left" is some kind of monolith organization, I mean far more basically..... you actually think this is about POLITICS?

:

With the left, it sure isn't about reality.

With Composition Fallacies it never is.

Ever heard of "character"? Or do I need to drop another link to edumacate you on that as well?

Liberal please. Character? Character is a product of morals and ethics. Dim's have none of either. Don't lecture me on character.

LOLOLOLOL

Drools a Trump voter. Yes, Trump, as in the guy with 5 kids from three wives, upon all of whom he cheated. His latest, with a porn star, while his wife was at home with their newborn, he would later bribe to remain quiet. And she was just one of the women bribed for silence. None of whom were among the 27 women accusing him of sexual assault. Then there was the $25 million settlement to folks he screwed with his faux university. His struggles with telling the truth. But sure, g'head and lie to yourself about morals and ethics.

Well, Faun you have to understand they have a hard time standing up for a fat, made up, combover old man who has to hire women to take care of him.

 

[verker]

No longer.

Moron only one term.

And son Eric Trump potentially Candidate in the 2024.