Zone1 Is habeas corpus a right in a free society ?

[Tommy Tainant]

They are guilty of breaking our immigration laws I know a leftest limey shit like yourself does not care what kind of criminals come into your country. I would see every illegal deported to save just one US citizen.

Where is you fake concern for justice for people like Larisha Thompson ?

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Six Illegal Aliens Charged For Brutal Murder Of South Carolina Mother in Random Attempted Robbery

How can they be guilty without a trial ?

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

How can they be guilty without a trial ?

They are illegals they have already broken our laws.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

“Is habeas corpus a right in a free society ?”

Trump and his supporters certainly don’t believe so.

I sense that deep down they know its wrong. But it affects people they dont like so it doesnt matter.

None of them seems to have the self awareness to relate this to their own situation. I doubt that they would like to be treated like this.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

They are illegals they have already broken our laws.

The courts dont think so. You cant be convicted by an ice panel.

 

[frigidweirdo]

What is habeas corpus and why might Donald Trump want to suspend it?

It is a safeguard against unlawful imprisonment - but the White House is "actively looking" at pausing it.

www.bbc.co.uk

Apparently Pres Trump is looking to stop habeas corpus in order to speed up the deportation of people.
This is already happening and there are many examples of life changing errors happening.
The question is do you have the right to a trial ?
Does your neighbour ?
Should you have a right to counsel ?

Is it worth slowing the process down to ensure fairness ?

The problem here comes that if he can get away with deporting illegal immigrants without following the law, then he could easily put legal citizens in that lot too and claim he made a mistake, and refuse to let them come back.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The problem here comes that if he can get away with deporting illegal immigrants without following the law, then he could easily put legal citizens in that lot too and claim he made a mistake, and refuse to let them come back.

That hasnt occurred to maga yet. Magna Carta protected people from the state. That used to be a GOP article of faith. Now it is just inconvenient.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

They are illegals they have already broken our laws.

You just dont get it. Or you do and you are being a hypocrite.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

That hasnt occurred to maga yet. Magna Carta protected people from the state. That used to be a GOP article of faith. Now it is just inconvenient.

You are ignorant of your own countries history the Magna Carta protected the landed gentry from the State it didn't do shit for the peasants.

 

[frigidweirdo]

That hasnt occurred to maga yet. Magna Carta protected people from the state. That used to be a GOP article of faith. Now it is just inconvenient.

Yeah, if only a Democrat had said it, then they'd be totally against it.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Yeah, if only a Democrat had said it, then they'd be totally against it.

Low quality people

 

[jc456]

Illegal alien’s due process amounts to 1) are you a citizen or legal resident yes/no. If no, deport. 2) Do you have a pending asylum case? Yes/no. If no, deport. If apprehended for a crime, deport.

Badda boom

 

[jc456]

You are an idiot. If I am robbed while illegaly parked I still have rights.
The trump hostages are all alleged because they havent been triedlet alone convicted.
Its not complicated.

You need to rethink that post. Hahaha

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

You have the cart before the horse. Due process is how you determine if they are legal residents or not.

Lawyers Hold English in Contempt

The common sense of the common people supersedes any lawyerly language-bending. If the suspect can't speak English, he doesn't have any right to be here. Besides, education-enabled elitists pronounce processes in a totally illogical way, "prah-sess-eeze," so they forfeit the right to talk about them.

 

[BackAgain]

What is habeas corpus and why might Donald Trump want to suspend it?

It is a safeguard against unlawful imprisonment - but the White House is "actively looking" at pausing it.

www.bbc.co.uk

Apparently Pres Trump is looking to stop habeas corpus in order to speed up the deportation of people.
This is already happening and there are many examples of life changing errors happening.
The question is do you have the right to a trial ?
Does your neighbour ?
Should you have a right to counsel ?

Is it worth slowing the process down to ensure fairness ?

You tools don’t get it.

We do.

What vermin morons like you don’t grasp is that the MEANING of “due process” has is dependent on a variety of factors. It boils down to an easily framed question:

“What process is due?”

Newsflash: in a criminal case, it means one thing even for illegal aliens. By stark contrast, in an administrative proceeding (like a removal hearing), it means something very different. And in the use of the Enemies Alien Act, it is clear that it may involve a whole lot less.

 

[jc456]

You tools don’t get it.

We do.

What vermin morons like you don’t grasp is that the MEANING of “due process” has is dependent on a variety of factors. It boils down to an easily framed question:

“What process is due?”

Newsflash: in a criminal case, it means one thing even for illegal aliens. By stark contrast, in an administrative proceeding (like a removal hearing), it means something very different. And in the use of the Enemies Alien Act, it is clear that it may involve a whole lot less.

They only know their narrative. They can’t counter because the narrative isn’t there

 

[AZrailwhale]

Lawyers Hold English in Contempt

The common sense of the common people supersedes any lawyerly language-bending. If the suspect can't speak English, he doesn't have any right to be here. Besides, education-enabled elitists pronounce processes in a totally illogical way, "prah-sess-eeze," so they forfeit the right to talk about them.

That isn't correct. First generation immigrants often have had little or no ability to speak English, but they were still legal residents for their entire lives. Fluency in English is only a requirement for citizenship.

 

[playtime]

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