Zone1 Is Feminism Destroying the West?

[Leo123]

The corporatists hired them. Prove me wrong.

Corporations are set up to make money and if you give a corporation cheap labor they will take it because it's not their job to guide society. Feminists have created a society that punishes men and families by convincing women that being a home-maker is the same as slavery, with no real value and that men are oppressing women.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Corporations are set up to make money and if you give a corporation cheap labor they will take it because it's not their job to guide society. Feminists have created a society that punishes men and families by convincing women that being a home-maker is the same as slavery, with no real value and that men are oppressing women.

There is heavy, and I mean HEAVY, insinuations of oppression and slavery by feminists towards wives who agree to at any time or in any way submit to their husbands. They get triggered by the "submit" word and think it means some authoritarian regime.

 

[initforme]

Corporations are set up to make money and if you give a corporation cheap labor they will take it because it's not their job to guide society. Feminists have created a society that punishes men and families by convincing women that being a home-maker is the same as slavery, with no real value and that men are oppressing women.

Those thatvwant to stay at home can. Those that dont are working. So be it. Freedom is a perfect thing. Hopefully more and more simply do what they want. Win win win.

 

[Leo123]

There is heavy, and I mean HEAVY, insinuations of oppression and slavery by feminists towards wives who agree to at any time or in any way submit to their husbands. They get triggered by the "submit" word and think it means some authoritarian regime.

Yeah, asking women to act like women is somehow submissive to feminists. The whole movement is so ironic, even the naming of 'feminist' is an oxymoron.

Men are stronger than women and could, as a cohesive movement, really suppress women. Any rights women have are given to them by men. They seem to forget that.

 

[initforme]

Yeah, asking women to act like women is somehow submissive to feminists. The whole movement is so ironic, even the naming of 'feminist' is an oxymoron.

Now its submission? Really? Whats next? This is comical.

 

[Leo123]

Now its submission? Really? Whats next? This is comical.

It would be comical if women didn't believe it.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Yeah, asking women to act like women is somehow submissive to feminists. The whole movement is so ironic, even the naming of 'feminist' is an oxymoron.

Well to me the whole modern feminist movement is a complete failure in strategy. Modern feminism wants women to chest up to men, act aggressive like men. The problem there is that many women who try to take on the act can't maintain it or perform it with any sort of genuine conviction.. and thus it's hollow and holds no weight, because it's generally not natural in their behavioral psychology. All of this aggression and girl-power stuff is biologically foreign to women, and only our 1st world society can allow it to exist. The moment our society collapses, as does modern feminism. The ideologues will step up to deviant men and get humbled at best.

Women ought to use what has always worked for them.. their seduction, their maneuvering of situations, and their appeasement of men to attain their desires. Men are easy to manipulate, they're the dog, women are the cat.

To Star Trek fans.. women need to be Romulans, not Klingons. A woman who uses her femininity properly can make a man do just about anything... The problem is women have become obsessed with the title and status, rather than technically taking a back seat but at the end of the day getting everything they wanted.

 

[Leo123]

Well to me the whole modern feminist movement is a complete failure in strategy. Modern feminism wants women to chest up to men, act aggressive like men. The problem there is that many women who try to take on the act can't maintain it or perform it with any sort of genuine conviction.. and thus it's hollow and holds no weight, because it's generally not natural in their behavioral psychology. All of this aggression and girl-power stuff is biologically foreign to women, and only our 1st world society can allow it to exist. The moment our society collapses, as does modern feminism. The ideologues will step up to deviant men and get humbled at best.

Women ought to use what has always worked for them.. their seduction, their maneuvering of situations, and their appeasement of men to attain their desires. Men are easy to manipulate, they're the dog, women are the cat.

To Star Trek fans.. women need to be Romulans, not Klingons. A woman who uses her femininity properly can make a man do just about anything... The problem is women have become obsessed with the title and status, rather than technically taking a back seat but at the end of the day getting everything they wanted.

Feminism has stripped women of their innate power by denigrating their own who exercise their female power. Men do not want a female to compete with them they want a woman who shares a mutual commitment.

 

[Unkotare]

Speak for yourself. Only the emotional ones do that, and you fit the bill there. Being masculine is about suppressing a large amount of emotional lashing out, because men are more dangerous than women. I think you're just projecting your unstable emotional mindset.

Do you think you're dangerous, tough guy?

 

[initforme]

Explain how one buys a house, vehicle, health insurance, food, and other stuff on one salary of $20 per hour. Add a child to that. Wait let me get my popcorn.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Do you think you're dangerous, tough guy?

If I wanted to be, yes.. but that wouldn’t make me unique. Many men are dangerous. They just use their masculine self control to navigate it

 

[initforme]

If I wanted to be, yes.. but that wouldn’t make me unique. Many men are dangerous. They just use their masculine self control to navigate it

This is getting out there

 

[beagle9]

Economics has decided where we are. Want a blue collar man to support his family it will cost a much bigger wage per factory hour. $20 per hour isnt going to cut it. $25 per hour wont cut it. Now what?

You are missing the fact that we have an historical record that proves you leftist are full of BS.

If it worked in the past, then it can be worked out again. We have the history to look at, and it shows us exactly where it all began to go bad, and what can now be done to fix it.

Women are trend lover's, so if a trend is produced by the powers of hollyweird that appeal to a modern day women, then the sexual power of a woman has the ability to empower the trend regardless of the long term negative implications or effects on society it can cause. Men, well they fall because uhhhhh well you all know why, and in a lot of cases it's the men that create the trends that end up separating the women from the family structured enviroment that once gave rise to great generations.

 

[initforme]

You are missing the fact that we have an historical record that proves you leftist are full of BS.

If it worked in the past, then it can be worked out again. We have the history to look at, and it shows us exactly where it all began to go bad, and what can now be done to fix it.

Women are trend lover's, so if a trend is produced by the powers of hollyweird that appeal to a modern day women, then the sexual power of a woman has the ability to empower the trend regardless of the long term negative implications or effects on society it can cause. Men, well they fall because uhhhhh well you all know why, and in a lot of cases it's the men that create the trends that end up separating the women from the family structured enviroment that once gave rise to great generations.

Sure it worked in the past. The past is gone and its not coming back. Time to accept and adapt. This generation is no worse than any other. Are we going to legislate this? I think not.

 

[beagle9]

Those thatvwant to stay at home can. Those that dont are working. So be it. Freedom is a perfect thing. Hopefully more and more simply do what they want. Win win win.

Yeah and daycare cost is in the billions now with society looking to government to heavily subsidize it, and kids are being raised by stranger's, but alas there's no harm in any of that right ?

Democrat run and/or war torn nation's that end up social engineering their societies for various unGodly reasons, uhhh has become a very weakening down thing to such nation's and there societies over time.

 

[initforme]

Yeah and daycare cost is in the billions now with society looking to government to heavily subsidize it, and kids are being raised by stranger's, but alas there's no harm in any of that right ?

Democrat run and/or war torn nation's that end up social engineering their societies for various unGodly reasons, uhhh has become a very weakening down thing to such nation's and there societies over time.

Dont want to pay for daycare then dont have kids. Problem solved. If one wants kids then one should work to support them and in this day and age it takes 2 full time workers. There are wealthy exceptions but in most cases both spouses are working to just hang on. That isnt going to change in the near future. Daycare is only going to expand.

 

[beagle9]

Sure it worked in the past. The past is gone and its not coming back. Time to accept and adapt. This generation is no worse than any other. Are we going to legislate this? I think not.

Hmmm, and you want to protect that bad along with the good eh ? I mean look at you making broad brush statements that deflect from the specific problem's created by those who have used their power to socially engineer society in ways that actually separates the women from the family structure, and has since for the most part done so for sexual reasoning that goes against the once core values of a nation that was held together by such values that were given to us by God.

 

[beagle9]

Dont want to pay for daycare then dont have kids. Problem solved. If one wants kids then one should work to support them and in this day and age it takes 2 full time workers. There are wealthy exceptions but in most cases both spouses are working to just hang on. That isnt going to change in the near future. Daycare is only going to expand.

Your ignorance or just plain manipulation in this debate is a very unproductive thing, so if and when you decide to stop making a fool of yourself, then maybe a productive debate can take place, but I won't hold my breath..

 

[initforme]

Hmmm, and you want to protect that bad along with the good eh ? I mean look at you making broad brush statements that deflect from the specific problem's created by those who have used their power to socially engineer society in ways that actually separates the women from the family structure, and has since for the most part done so for sexual reasoning that goes against the once core values of a nation that was held together by such values that were given to us by God.

Im not protecting anything. I looking at reality. The reality is a $20 per hour job isnt going to be enough to support a family. You can spin it all you want. Blame whatever you want its fine with me. I havent a dog in the fight i just see whats going on and being able to afford basic necessities is an issue and has been for years. Im fully convinced neither main party cares about it.

 

[initforme]

Your ignorance or just plain manipulation in this debate is a very unproductive thing, so if and when you decide to stop making a fool of yourself, then maybe a productive debate can take place, but I won't hold my breath..

So im ignorant because i observe reality. Tell me how people are supposed to support a family without enough money to pay for things.