Zone1 Is Feminism Destroying the West?

[beagle9]

Yet, thats what america stands for...the almighty dollar. So i dont buy any of it. I tell every young person i see to go after the dollar above all else because thats what the system wants and is deigned for.

Cycle of destruction. We see it everywhere now.

 

[initforme]

Cycle of destruction. We see it everywhere now.

So young people dhould watch the wealthy get wealthier and not want a piece of that? Instead they should just accept where they are?

 

[beagle9]

So young people dhould watch the wealthy get wealthier and not want a piece of that? Instead they should just accept where they are?

If the wealthy they work for is suspected of being corrupt, then they should form a union or get together and call for an investigation of the business.

If the owner or owner's as in a corporation are just being greedy as hell, then seek another job or way out, then boycott the business by spreading the word via social media and other great platforms or ways that are allowed in America to rebalance the scales.

 

[beagle9]

So young people dhould watch the wealthy get wealthier and not want a piece of that? Instead they should just accept where they are?

No not saying that either..

 

[initforme]

No not saying that either..

Well there you go. Stay single, work incessantly, and retire early. Thats winning. Becoming unproductive asap is a thing to aim for.

 

[beagle9]

Well there you go. Stay single, work incessantly, and retire early. Thats winning. Becoming unproductive asap is a thing to aim for.

Why are you leaving out the goal of becoming your own entrepreneur through sacrifice and consistency ? I know many that suffered but became stronger from it only to become super successful and wealthy in life.

 

[initforme]

Why are you leaving out the goal of becoming your own entrepreneur through sacrifice and consistency ? I know many that suffered but became stronger from it only to become super successful and wealthy in life.

Oh i am. And staying single, avoiding all social events to work. Thats winning and what the nation is wanting.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Rationalizations.

Look at the art of Ancient Greece. Many, many years before Christ. It was beautiful.

Philosophy determines the direction of art and when faith is dominant, art is ugly. And ugly art means an ugly sense of life.

You just made that up, you're welcomed to the weird opinion, but there is beautiful art across all generations. Meanwhile, some of the greatest art has been made devoted and inspired to Christ, like the Last Supper, The Sistine Chapel ceiling, The statue of David, etc.

heavily exaggerated Catholic propaganda. The treatment of Galileo proves what Christianity actually think of science.

1. I could easily prove the scientific grounds of the church, you just aren't serious in this debate.. but if you ever wanted to leave the incorrect atheist cliff notes and go challenge your worldview, the truth is out there.

2. Galileo wasn't even nearly the most radical scientist in the church as far as astronomical theories. He got in trouble for other reasons. Again, your Cliffs notes aren't accurate.

Modern nonsense. Only 20-21st century Christians say this.

Christianity brought war, conquest, conversion by sword, threats and terror. Y'all even hadva very recent war on Ireland.

The Christine doctrine is very passive. There's certainly causes for Just War, but you'd have to prove how Christianity itself brought all these things. My guess is that you'll point to how person/people who were Christians did something, so that means their actions are now branded on Christianity, and that's just not only hack logic, but also a practice I'd gladly take on against you and your secularist/statist/atheist worldview.. and all the horrors it has produced. You'd have to own 1,000,000 murders in your name for every one of mine.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

They never do. And never thru hard work.

So what is your end game here? Because to me this just sounds like pathetic deconstructionist theory. You're mad that others have power that you can't get, so you want to fight that power by giving up?

 

[Trickster]

Art is beautiful after Christ as well. ‘Ugly’ in art is nothing but an opinion, Trixie.

Youbare avoiding my point -- Art is not beautiful when Christianity is the dom8nating philosophy.

Galileo is celebrated even today for his scientific findings by Catholics.

Ah. God changed his mind on that too then it seems. Lmao.

Modern nonsense is warping history as you do.

Ever heard of Genghis Kahn? Mao?

Genghis Khan and Mao are two men I'd think you'd look up to since you agree with them on most things.

Reality cannot truly be known, therefore man needs a leader to guide them. Muscle over mind. Altruism as the guiding morality. Mysticcollectivists.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Its not at all defeatist. Its the mentality that workers need today. Deal with it. Effort is tied to wage plain and simple. Whsts your stance?

I think if you're always going to view things so dire, you'll find a way to make yourself fail, and that goes for many people in younger generations.

This would be yet another instance where we need Christian Populism on the scene. While folks like you convince yourself how bad you have it here in first world paradise, Christianity promotes being thankful for every day you are given, having deep appreciation for all you get, and having a duty to make something of yourself to spread God's grace. Our two worldviews produce very different populations, and my population would completely outproduce yours.

 

[Trickster]

You just made that up, you're welcomed to the weird opinion, but there is beautiful art across all generations.

Wroooong. I dare you to find beautiful art from the Dark Ages. There is nome because Christianity does not stimulate creativity and reason.

Ancient Greece when man and his capacity was celebrated had great art. Same with Rome before Christianity. Persia before Islam too.

Meanwhile, some of the greatest art has been made devoted and inspired to Christ, like the Last Supper, The Sistine Chapel ceiling, The statue of David, etc.

Aha and what was the Renaissance philosophically speaking? I already talked about this in my previous post, but since avoiding is your desired strategy, we can take itvagain - it was a rebellion against tradition, church authority and faith.

1. I could easily prove the scientific grounds of the church, you just aren't serious in this debate.. but if you ever wanted to leave the incorrect atheist cliff notes and go challenge your worldview, the truth is out there.

Christians have become such whimpa. Yikes.

Y'all used to torture scientists and fight for your lives to ban evolutiom and sex ed from being taught in school. But, now y'all are like " a -ackshully, th-there a-are s-scientific g- grounds..." Man. Stfu

2. Galileo wasn't even nearly the most radical scientist in the church as far as astronomical theories. He got in trouble for other reasons. Again, your Cliffs notes aren't accurate.

Aaawww.

The Christine doctrine is very passive. There's certainly causes for Just War, but you'd have to prove how Christianity itself brought all these things. My guess is that you'll point to how person/people who were Christians did something, so that means their actions are now branded on Christianity, and that's just not only hack logic, but also a practice I'd gladly take on against you and your secularist/statist/atheist worldview.. and all the horrors it has produced. You'd have to own 1,000,000 murders in your name for every one of mine.

Christianity turns the followers into mindless zombie sheeple who'll do anything their leader tells them. It's religion, honey.

Islamic terrorism has the same root.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Wroooong. I dare you to find beautiful art from the Dark Ages. There is nome because Christianity does not stimulate creativity and reason.

Ancient Greece when man and his capacity was celebrated had great art. Same with Rome before Christianity. Persia before Islam too.

Since "beautiful art" is subjective, and you have a clear ax to grind, I won't really hold your opinions with any weight. Given your contrarian, bad faith style, I'll actually assume you haven't even neutrally judged them, and simply attacked it in the name of your faithful crusade against Xtianity

Aha and what was the Renaissance philosophically speaking? I already talked about this in my previous post, but since avoiding is your desired strategy, we can take itvagain - it was a rebellion against tradition, church authority and faith.

Not exactly, but I was specifically referring to the art that you're so obsessed with. So much of Renaissance art was devoted to Christ and Church, that's my point. If Art was so anti-Christian, why'd it inspire so much beauty in its name?

Christians have become such whimpa. Yikes.

Y'all used to torture scientists and fight for your lives to ban evolutiom and sex ed from being taught in school. But, now y'all are like " a -ackshully, th-there a-are s-scientific g- grounds..." Man. Stfu

You sound like an imbecile, and you're just pivoting to vomit out random attacks. Meanwhile, as described earlier, evolution is proven to not be able to explain our existence, and sex education isn't necessary in schools. You just sound triggered and flustered, and won't stay in one spot.

Aaawww.

The reply of someone who recited a talking point but when refuted has nothing to say. Go read up on what went on with Galileo. I bet you believe he was burned at the stake LOL (many atheists say this, it never happened, he was put on house arrest not for his scientific claims, but for his heresy)

Christianity turns the followers into mindless zombie sheeple who'll do anything their leader tells them. It's religion, honey.

Islamic terrorism has the same root.

Yeah nobody cares about your angry spiteful summations.

 

[Trickster]

Egalitarianism leads to self separation of career choice between men and women as shown in Sweden today.

What is shown in Sweden today?

I know women are completely outdunking men in higher education there, making way above 51% of students.

 

[Trickster]

Since "beautiful art" is subjective, and you have a clear ax to grind, I won't really hold your opinions with any weight. Given your contrarian, bad faith style, I'll actually assume you haven't even neutrally judged them, and simply attacked it in the name of your faithful crusade against Xtianity

I believe in objective beauty and did not expect you to come out so hard on defending subjectivism and in extension even modern art.

Not exactly, but I was specifically referring to the art that you're so obsessed with. So much of Renaissance art was devoted to Christ and Church, that's my point. If Art was so anti-Christian, why'd it inspire so much beauty in its name?

Can you guess why?

the church hated creativity and feared it would end Christianity, so they'd engage in censorship or just hiring the best artists to work for them instead, paying good money for it.

The church was scared of Michelangelo's artistry and obviously did not appreciate his progressive ungodliness. David is nude, do you really think the church liked that? The Pope wanted him dead.

This of course applies to all forms of art. The church also engaged in censorship of books (Index Librorum Prohibitorum), Dumas and Hugo amongst many others saw that happen to them. Obviously, this applies to music too.

You sound like an imbecile, and you're just pivoting to vomit out random attacks. Meanwhile, as described earlier, evolution is proven to not be able to explain our existence, and sex education isn't necessary in schools. You just sound triggered and flustered, and won't stay in one spot.

The reply of someone who recited a talking point but when refuted has nothing to say. Go read up on what went on with Galileo. I bet you believe he was burned at the stake LOL (many atheists say this, it never happened, he was put on house arrest not for his scientific claims, but for his heresy)

Yeah nobody cares about your angry spiteful summations.

Christianity is bad for the human mind.

 

[Leo123]

What is shown in Sweden today?

I know women are completely outdunking men in higher education there, making way above 51% of students.

I just told you what was shown.

 

[Leo123]

Youbare avoiding my point -- Art is not beautiful when Christianity is the dom8nating philosophy.

Ah. God changed his mind on that too then it seems. Lmao.

Genghis Khan and Mao are two men I'd think you'd look up to since you agree with them on most things.

Reality cannot truly be known, therefore man needs a leader to guide them. Muscle over mind. Altruism as the guiding morality. Mysticcollectivists.

That’s your point and your opinion. So what? I have a different opinion.

Khan and Mao had their own morality, just like you. In fact you are more like them than I.

Altruism huh? Why is that moral?

 

[toobfreak]

Wroooong. I dare you to find beautiful art from the Dark Ages. There is nome because Christianity does not stimulate creativity and reason.

Seriously? There is no great art from The Dark Ages in the West because western civilization had collapsed under oppression of the church to consolidate their rule and society ground to a halt with most living in ignorance, suffering and poverty. People were being burned at the stake just for questioning ideas, the church, or authority. Helluva time to want to paint something (which was expensive) and just hoped that your art didn't piss off the wrong person.

AS to what Christianity generally otherwise inspires, for starters, why not start with every great church built in Europe over the last, what, thousand years like Notre Dame.

If this isn't inspired to create such beauty out of millions of delicate pieces all made by hand, I don't know what is.

 

[Leo123]

Wroooong. I dare you to find beautiful art from the Dark Ages. There is nome because Christianity does not stimulate creativity and reason.

Ancient Greece when man and his capacity was celebrated had great art. Same with Rome before Christianity. Persia before Islam too.


Aha and what was the Renaissance philosophically speaking? I already talked about this in my previous post, but since avoiding is your desired strategy, we can take itvagain - it was a rebellion against tradition, church authority and faith.





Christians have become such whimpa. Yikes.

Y'all used to torture scientists and fight for your lives to ban evolutiom and sex ed from being taught in school. But, now y'all are like " a -ackshully, th-there a-are s-scientific g- grounds..." Man. Stfu



Aaawww.

Christianity turns the followers into mindless zombie sheeple who'll do anything their leader tells them. It's religion, honey.

Islamic terrorism has the same root.

Beautiful dark age art

 

[Leo123]

Seriously? There is no great art from The Dark Ages in the West because western civilization had collapsed under oppression of the church to consolidate their rule and society ground to a halt with most living in ignorance, suffering and poverty. People were being burned at the stake just for questioning ideas, the church, or authority. Helluva time to want to paint something (which was expensive) and just hoped that your art didn't piss off the wrong person.

AS to what Christianity generally otherwise inspires, for starters, why not start with every great church built in Europe over the last, what, thousand years like Notre Dame.

If this isn't inspired to create such beauty out of millions of delicate pieces all made by hand, I don't know what is.

Trixie likes to go down rabbit holes..Trixie still hasn’t said where Trixie’s morals come from other tha the movie Frozen and some vague comments after all these rabbit hole posts.