Zone1 Is Feminism Destroying the West?

[Company 13]

Why should I be neutral on any topic? So you can claim some kind of 'gotcha' victory? Stats show single mothers is not a good thing for the kids or society. There is plenty of factual evidence, that is not 'griping,'

'The father’s absence from the family has been shown to be a major disadvantage to the children’s well-being.'

https://dads4kids.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/THE-FACTS-ON-FATHERLESSNESS-2025.pdf

I'm sure it's good to have a father if the father is good. But kids can't always have a father, just as they can't always have a other. But other people can step up and be role models for such kids.

 

[Leo123]

I'm sure it's good to have a father if the father is good. But kids can't always have a father, just as they can't always have a other. But other people can step up and be role models for such kids.

So, you don't care that fatherless families are a growing problem? 'Kids can't always have a father' is a feckless argument as is changeable fathers. Why do you seem to accept this?

 

[Company 13]

So, you don't care that fatherless families are a growing problem? 'Kids can't always have a father' is a feckless argument as is changeable fathers. Why do you seem to accept this?

Yes, I do care. But I acknowledge that if a father is absent, no one can do anything about it. I wish all kids had good fathers. But I would rather a kid have no father than a horrible father.
Do you have a suggestion for something to do about it? Shotgun weddings? Remove kids from homes without fathers and place them with other families that have fathers? What?

 

[Leo123]

Yes, I do care. But I acknowledge that if a father is absent, no one can do anything about it. I wish all kids had good fathers. But I would rather a kid have no father than a horrible father.
Do you have a suggestion for something to do about it? Shotgun weddings? Remove kids from homes without fathers and place them with other families that have fathers? What?

I gave my suggestion. People need to speak up about being responsible about sex instead of saying there is nothing that can be done. I said as much and you called it ‘griping.’

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Yes, I do care. But I acknowledge that if a father is absent, no one can do anything about it.

You seemed to brush right over it. What needs to happen is for society to support men like they do women, promote their worth and capabilities, acknowledge what they provide to society and families, and glaze nuclear families as being the "superstars" of our society... like the left and media did with trans people.

I wish all kids had good fathers. But I would rather a kid have no father than a horrible father.

What about mothers?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Yeah, because Christians have definitely been the quiet types who just kindly and obediently hide in their churches.

Yikes.

If anything, America needs less Christianity.

Secular leftists currently occupy all major institutions in society... academia, media, entertainment, big tech... but things are started to tilt away from the fluffy radical push to degeneracy. Christians need to aggressively promote their message much like the leftists did with their communist, trans, abortion, illegal immigrant propaganda in order to make better results than the long list of secular leftist positions that have caused harm to our society.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

I gave my suggestion. People need to speak up about being responsible about sex instead of saying there is nothing that can be done. I said as much and you called it ‘griping.’

When you're having a discussion, and regular claims are labeled by the other as "complaining", "whining", "griping" etc... it's just them running from their point. They have to start make up things about how you are delivering your message because they cannot refute the message.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Christian values has never brought anything but poverty, misery and authoritarianism to the world. It is an undeniable fact that it is the idea of secularism that frees the individual and their mind to generate technology, wealth and greatness. One of the very fundsmental pillars of America is secularism.

Christian populism is anti- mann and directly unamerican.

I bet you don't even know what Christian values are. If you did, you'd know they're good for society.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

One of the biggest harms Feminism did was their embrace of the Sexual Revolution. It's pretty undeniable that this movement..
1. Increased divorce
2. Increased single-parent households
3. Normalized casual sex which led to objectification, emotional detachment, higher STI rates, and loneliness
4. Shifted the focus from commitment and family to individual pleasure.

None of those are good for society.

 

[candycorn]

I bet you don't even know what Christian values are. If you did, you'd know they're good for society.

Apparently Christian Values are paying porn stars for sex while you're married.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Apparently Christian Values are paying porn stars for sex while you're married.

It's sad to see what TDS did you to you.

Meanwhile, no Catholic church, nor nearly all of its members, view Trump as any religious figure to seek guidance or inspiration from. I'm sure there's a few weirdos out there.. but I think the main thing here is that Trump is in your head far too much. Perhaps you need a break from this board for a few months.

 

[candycorn]

One of the biggest harms Feminism did was their embrace of the Sexual Revolution. It's pretty undeniable that this movement..
1. Increased divorce
2. Increased single-parent households
3. Normalized casual sex which led to objectification, emotional detachment, higher STI rates, and loneliness
4. Shifted the focus from commitment and family to individual pleasure.

None of those are good for society.

A lot of women realized that many men were garbage and since women were making their own money, the need to have a "provider" was not there anymore. Hence divorce or--what you see now--avoiding oppressive pseudo know-it-alls like you.

Nothing is wrong with casual sex; nothing is wrong with having one partner for your entire life either. Only oppressive morons would say otherwise.

Nothing is wrong with individual pleasure; nothing is wrong with having a family either. Only oppressive morons would say otherwise.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

A lot of women realized that many men were garbage and since women were making their own money, the need to have a "provider" was not there anymore. Hence divorce or--what you see now--

So you think that men and women have the same hard-wiring in their brains? The same fulfillments? The same temperments? The same behavior and psychology? The don't. So, this effects the two sexes differently.. and not in a good way.

Nothing is wrong with casual sex; nothing is wrong with having one partner for your entire life either.

One of these provides better outcomes though. that's my point. You seem to be taking it personally.

Nothing is wrong with individual pleasure; nothing is wrong with having a family either.

Again, I'm talking outcomes.. not whether you feel judged or cornered.

 

[beagle9]

So you think that men and women have the same hard-wiring in their brains? The same fulfillments? The same temperments? The same behavior and psychology? The don't. So, this effects the two sexes differently.. and not in a good way.

One of these provides better outcomes though. that's my point. You seem to be taking it personally.

Again, I'm talking outcomes.. not whether you feel judged or cornered.

Good point on talking about outcomes, and how society is being effected terribly after we began promoting the wrong outcomes, and doing so through indoctronating, bad influencing, bad messaging, glorifying and romanticizing bad character's, promoting bad trends, and practicing bad thing's in society.

 

[wist43]

WOMEN, KNOW YOUR LIMITS!!!!

 

[candycorn]

So you think that men and women have the same hard-wiring in their brains?

Essentially. Most are not as brain-damaged and paranoid as the person I'm responding to though.

The same fulfillments? The same temperments? The same behavior and psychology?

Most don't toss around words to which they have no idea their meaning.

The don't. So, this effects the two sexes differently.. and not in a good way.

"good" and "bad" are value judgments.

One of these provides better outcomes though. that's my point. You seem to be taking it personally.

Again, your values are skewed toward a 16th century mentality and are rather comical today. You seem to be taking that fact personally.

 

[Trickster]

I bet you don't even know what Christian values are. If you did, you'd know they're good for society.

Clearly you don't know because they very clearly ain't.

Europe of the Dark Ages is your proof.

 

[Trickster]

If you don’t like Christians, I’m sure you’ll love wearing a hijab.

Funny thing is that you would love Islamic takeover because you sound a lot like a taliban in your posts.

 

[Trickster]

So, you don't care that fatherless families are a growing problem? 'Kids can't always have a father' is a feckless argument as is changeable fathers. Why do you seem to accept this?

Um. No, honey. You are dropping context here and that's the biggest problem with all anti-divorce arguments.

No father is better than a bad father. Believe it or not, but these actually exist and an abusive and/or absent father is not good for the child.

Divorce always happens for a reason. It's almost always what is best for the kid.

Your "won't somebody please think of the children"-panic is not working here anyways. The real reason you dislike divorce is because it humanizes women and gives them control of their own fate.

 

[Trickster]

Apparently Christian Values are paying porn stars for sex while you're married.

And speaking of the saftey of children and the Catholic church...

Well...

Cough.