Zone1 Is Feminism Destroying the West?

[Trickster]

Stop projecting your desires.

I'm saving myself for marriage.

 

[Concerned American]

I do not like anything about Trump

Except for the fact that he doesn't keep his vows either --- and conveniently makes your point.

 

[Concerned American]

I'm saving myself for marriage.

Which one.

 

[candycorn]

How is it I have a double standard?

You said those who have gone through divorce are "disingenuous" and "cannot be trusted". Yet you've voted twice (at least) for someone who went through divorce.

So either you're lying or you think Presidents should be disingenuous and can't be trusted.

Your words; not mine.

 

[Concerned American]

Yet you've voted twice (at least) for someone who went through divorce.

Yeah and you voted for a guy that got fellated in the oval office. We're even.

 

[Trickster]

Which one.

Sixseven.

 

[Trickster]

Yeah and you voted for a guy that got fellated in the oval office. We're even.

Kinda based though, eh?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Clearly you don't know because they very clearly ain't.

Europe of the Dark Ages is your proof.

So you don’t know then. Let me help ya:

Christians would encourage a population to participate in their virtues. There are obvious ones that probably most people can agree on, but then there are more that would set Christians apart… such as:

• Faith
• Self-Control
• Patience
• Chastity
• Charity/Generosity
• Humilty
• Thankfulness
• Kindness

Secular modern culture doesn’t value or encourage much of any of these. And, they are all very good for any society, so I don’t think that’s up to dispute.. unless you think a patient, generous, humble, appreciative person with lots of self-control is bad for society?

And before you try to jump in the bandwagon, there’s zero reason for a secularist or atheist to participate in any of these. It would just be your personal preference, but your neighbor could be the complete opposite and you’d have no argument to say they’re wrong..

 

[initforme]

So you don’t know then. Let me help ya:

Christians would encourage a population to participate in their virtues. There are obvious ones that probably most people can agree on, but then there are more that would set Christians apart… such as:

• Faith
• Self-Control
• Patience
• Chastity
• Charity/Generosity
• Humilty
• Thankfulness
• Kindness

Secular modern culture doesn’t value or encourage much of any of these. And, they are all very good for any society, so I don’t think that’s up to dispute.. unless you think a patient, generous, humble, appreciative person with lots of self-control is bad for society?

And before you try to jump in the bandwagon, there’s zero reason for a secularist or atheist to participate in any of these. It would just be your personal preference, but your neighbor could be the complete opposite and you’d have no argument to say they’re wrong..

Those are good virtues. If one takes a step back and looks at the big pucture overall society has become less kind. I believe a big part of this is that people are working longer, harder and theyre stressed and feel like slaves to their jobs. The increasing pressure to work hard be productive is taking its toll. 3 weeks vacation does not provide enough time for respite. The modern rat race is getting more stressful and overall people are tired, stressed, and the pressure is only increasing. Exhausted describes the vast majority of people.

 

[Unkotare]

Those are good virtues. If one takes a step back and looks at the big pucture overall society has become less kind. I believe a big part of this is that people are working longer, harder and theyre stressed and feel like slaves to their jobs. The increasing pressure to work hard be productive is taking its toll. 3 weeks vacation does not provide enough time for respite. The modern rat race is getting more stressful and overall people are tired, stressed, and the pressure is only increasing. Exhausted describes the vast majority of people.

Bullshit.

 

[Trickster]

So you don’t know then. Let me help ya:

Christians would encourage a population to participate in their virtues. There are obvious ones that probably most people can agree on, but then there are more that would set Christians apart… such as:

• Faith
• Self-Control
• Patience
• Chastity
• Charity/Generosity
• Humilty
• Thankfulness
• Kindness

Secular modern culture doesn’t value or encourage much of any of these. And, they are all very good for any society, so I don’t think that’s up to dispute.. unless you think a patient, generous, humble, appreciative person with lots of self-control is bad for society?

And before you try to jump in the bandwagon, there’s zero reason for a secularist or atheist to participate in any of these. It would just be your personal preference, but your neighbor could be the complete opposite and you’d have no argument to say they’re wrong..

All of those which you have llsted are vices that undermine what lt means to be human and ultimately destroys life and flourishing in favor of death worship (fear of life) and misery.

Faith is the enemy of reason. It is not a valid source of knowledge as it makes you a mindless zombie who puts the voices of authorlty above your own capacity to learn. It is undeniable that every period in history dominated by faith has been periods of vast suffering and widespread tyranny.

Self-control is surpression of reality and personal desires in favor of irrational whim — it puts an arbitrary and vague standard of ”God’s will” first only generating shame, sadness and a sense of unfulfillment.

Patience is to passively wait for someone else to save you.

Chastity is fear of pleasure and surrender of desires leading to more shame and fear of judgment by mystic authority.

Charity is not a duty when motivated by whim and when helping others takes priority over helping onself. It is self-sacrifice of the cruelest forn.

Humility, thankfulness and kindness are just socialist dogwhistles.

 

[Hafar1014]

All of those which you have llsted are vices that undermine what lt means to be human and ultimately destroys life and flourishing in favor of death worship (fear of life) and misery.

Faith is the enemy of reason. It is not a valid source of knowledge as it makes you a mindless zombie who puts the voices of authorlty above your own capacity to learn. It is undeniable that every period in history dominated by faith has been periods of vast suffering and widespread tyranny.

Self-control is surpression of reality and personal desires in favor of irrational whim — it puts an arbitrary and vague standard of ”God’s will” first only generating shame, sadness and a sense of unfulfillment.

Patience is to passively wait for someone else to save you.

Chastity is fear of pleasure and surrenser of desires leading to more shame and fear of judgment by mystic authority.

Charity is not a duty when motivated by whim and when helping others takes priority over helping onself. It is self.sacrifice of the cruelest forn.

Humility, thankfulness and kindmess are just socialist dogwhistles.

Without context your reply has no meaning

 

[Trickster]

Without context your reply has no meaning

The context is the quoted post, honey.

This reply, however, is dodging my points.

 

[Hafar1014]

The context is the quoted post, honey.

This reply, however, is dodging my points.

You need context for each point otherwise its meaningless

 

[Trickster]

You need context for each point otherwise its meaningless

Tell that to Mr.Friscus.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

All of those which you have llsted are vices that undermine what lt means to be human and ultimately destroys life and flourishing in favor of death worship (fear of life) and misery.

Faith is the enemy of reason. It is not a valid source of knowledge as it makes you a mindless zombie who puts the voices of authorlty above your own capacity to learn. It is undeniable that every period in history dominated by faith has been periods of vast suffering and widespread tyranny.

Self-control is surpression of reality and personal desires in favor of irrational whim — it puts an arbitrary and vague standard of ”God’s will” first only generating shame, sadness and a sense of unfulfillment.

Patience is to passively wait for someone else to save you.

Chastity is fear of pleasure and surrender of desires leading to more shame and fear of judgment by mystic authority.

Charity is not a duty when motivated by whim and when helping others takes priority over helping onself. It is self-sacrifice of the cruelest forn.

Humility, thankfulness and kindness are just socialist dogwhistles.

So you prefer a population of impulsive, impatient, sexualized, selfish, egotistical, entitled, and mean people compared to a population of self-controlled, patient, chaste, charitable, humble, thankful, and kind people?

You can have it. That’s why I think a majority of Americans would want what Christian populism is offering

 

[Trickster]

So you prefer a population of impulsive, impatient, sexualized, selfish, egotistical, entitled, and mean people compared to a population of self-controlled, patient, chaste, charitable, humble, thankful, and kind people?

You can have it.

There is nothing as unhumble as Christian love.

I prefer a population of independent, self-aware and rational citizens. Everything you listed sounds horrible.

 

[Hafar1014]

You need context for each point otherwise its meaningless

Your points indicate life full of guilt which goes against normal human needs

 

[Mr. Friscus]

There is nothing as unhumble as Christian love.

I prefer a population of independent, self-aware and rational citizens. Everything you listed sounds horrible.

To each their own. I think most people would want to live near people who have the virtues I listed.. it’s just up to Christians to be more aggressive in their prescriptions, and try to become the dominant social force in society again.

 

[Trickster]

To each their own. I think most people would want to live near people who have the virtues I listed.. it’s just up to Christians to be more aggressive in their prescriptions, and try to become the dominant social force in society again.

Your opinions about women do not echo any of those virtues you have listed.

So, I guess we'll meet in hell.