Zone1 Is Feminism Destroying the West?

[Mr. Friscus]

Its not legal in most states. So there is that.

But that's a dodge. It's not whether it's legal or not, it's whether it's moral and ought to happen. Do you think 8 month abortions should happen at all?

And, the fact that it's legal at all in the USA is very shocking. The more we find out about what's going on in the womb, the more pro-life folks are vindicated in their stances. We'll look back at all this radical abortion and youth trans surgeries by the woke left like we do looking back on lobotomies.

 

[Trickster]

Wow. That is shockingly barbaric. But anyways, I'll answer your question now:


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The life of the mother is usually the only permissible reason to abort a child IMO.

And why tf do you think an 8 months pregnant woman would seek out an abortion???

 

[Mr. Friscus]

And why tf do you think an 8 months pregnant woman would seek out an abortion???

It really doesn't matter when you're discussing what should be legal. It would be like me saying "Nobody would want to steal from anyone, why would they do that??". That's not the question, the question is should stealing be legal or not, and why/under what morality can you decide?

But, I could come up with many scenarios off the top of my head:
1. The woman gets cold feet and wants to escape
2. The woman gets depressed and the crazed doctor decides her depression is more important than the baby's life.
3. The baby has downs syndrome, or a defect that is detected late.
4. The baby is not the preferred sex the mother/father desired, and they didn't find out until late
5. The mother/father become financially broke, and they kill the baby to address their financial reasons

I could go on.

 

[Trickster]

But, I could come up with many scenarios off the top of my head:

Honey, no. I did not ask you "to come up with" answers. I asked you to look at the real life examples of the situation.

1. The woman gets cold feet and wants to escape

After 8 months? Really? Really?;

2. The woman gets depressed and the crazed doctor decides her depression is more important than the b̶a̶b̶y̶'̶s̶ fetus' life.

When has this ever happened?

3. The baby has downs syndrome, or a defect that is detected late.

That's detected way earlier than 8 months, bro.

4. The baby is not the preferred sex the mother/father desired, and they didn't find out until late

At momth 8??

5. The mother/father become financially broke, and they kill the baby to address their financial reasons

Hahahahahaha, you're so bad faith.

I could go on.

Please keep going.

Can't take more than reason one million until you finally state the obvious proving you too wouod abort at that stage.

Go on.

 

[initforme]

But that's a dodge. It's not whether it's legal or not, it's whether it's moral and ought to happen. Do you think 8 month abortions should happen at all?

And, the fact that it's legal at all in the USA is very shocking. The more we find out about what's going on in the womb, the more pro-life folks are vindicated in their stances. We'll look back at all this radical abortion and youth trans surgeries by the woke left like we do looking back on lobotomies.

I dont like abortion at all. But its not an issue of mine. No dog in that fight.

 

[Trickster]

I dont like abortion at all. But its not an issue of mine. No dog in that fight.

You do, everyone does.

It is about the most basic and fundamental of rights and if government is allowed to restrict it, it is not far from them restricting somethingvwhere you do have a dog.

Just look at SC Bill 323.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Honey, no. I did not ask you "to come up with" answers. I asked you to look at the real life examples of the situation.


After 8 months? Really? Really?;

When has this ever happened?

That's detected way earlier than 8 months, bro.

At momth 8??

Hahahahahaha, you're so bad faith.

Please keep going.

Can't take more than reason one million until you finally state the obvious proving you too wouod abort at that stage.

Go on.

What would prevent any of my examples if it were legal to do?

Nothing.

It’s odd that you say it should happen, but now are backing off saying it “never” does?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

I dont like abortion at all. But its not an issue of mine. No dog in that fight.

How is it not an issue of yours?

 

[Trickster]

What would prevent any of my examples if it were legal to do?

Nothing.

It’s odd that you say it should happen, but now are backing off saying it “never” does?

You're right, but when and why a woman chooses to terminate her pregnancy is none of your business.

I do not think you even remotely ujderstand what it means to be 8 months pregnant - if a woman goes through all of the physical and physiological exhaustions that that means, it's pretty obvious she is willingly pregnant and the only circumstance under which she wouod choose to terminate the pregnancyvwould be where you too think it's OK.

Also, you mock leftists for not being able to defije a woman, meanwhile you cannot define "baby" yourself.

 

[OODA_Loop]

When 8 months has passed it is pretty safe to assume the woman wants children,

Then prohibition after 6 weeks except for cases where the life of the mother is clearly at medical jeopardy.

 

[Trickster]

Then prohibition after 6 weeks except for cases where the life of the mother is clearly at medical jeopardy.

No, any restrictions is up for the doctor to decide.

6 weeks is far too early as the woman might not even know she's pregnant yet. At 6 weeks she's missed only one period assuming her cycle is regular, none if it is irregular.

 

[Company 13]

Not really.

"U.S. adults who had or were being treated for depression, 2017 and 2023, by gender
Published by
Conor Stewart
, Nov 26, 2025

As of 2023, around 24 percent of women in the United States reported currently having or being treated for depression, compared to 11 percent of men. This statistic shows the percentage of adults in the United States who currently had or were being treated for depression in 2017 and 2023, by gender."

Share of adults being treated for depression by gender U.S. 2023| Statista

As of 2023, around 24 percent of women in the United States reported currently having or being treated for depression, compared to 11 percent of men.

www.statista.com

As Millennial women pass childbearing age, female depression is going to skyrocket. There may even be a cat shortage.

Ah, good old post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.

 

[DonGlock26]

Ah, good old post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.

A = A

 

[Company 13]

A = A

Oh, that's so cute.
Let's see if you can follow this logic.
If more women are being treated now for depression than in the past, that does not mean there is more depression now. It means there's more treatment now.
I'm betting you can't follow the logic. But you proved nothing with your stats.
If you don't understand this, get a junior high kid to explain it to you.

 

[DonGlock26]

Oh, that's so cute.
Let's see if you can follow this logic.
If more women are being treated now for depression than in the past, that does not mean there is more depression now. It means there's more treatment now.
I'm betting you can't follow the logic. But you proved nothing with your stats.
If you don't understand this, get a junior high kid to explain it to you.

You act like they just invested the science of psychiatry. For there to be more treatments, there has to be more cases. A = A.

Women don't have as many families now and their corporations really don't care about them. No wonder they are whacked out on box wine and SSRI's.

 

[Company 13]

For there to be more treatments, there has to be more cases. A = A.

No there doesn't have to be more cases to have more being treated. That you believe that shows your inability to understand logic.

You can stop repeating A is A. It makes no sense in this context, and Ayn Rand was a deplorable person.

 

[OODA_Loop]

No, any restrictions is up for the doctor to decide.

6 weeks is far too early as the woman might not even know she's pregnant yet. At 6 weeks she's missed only one period assuming her cycle is regular, none if it is irregular.

About a third fall into this category.

Reproductive rights come with responsibility like any other right.

Women have to manage their fertility status responsibly if they are having unprotected sex. It’s not hard or expensive to know if you’re pregnant.

 

[Trickster]

About a third fall into this category.

Reproductive rights come with responsibility like any other right.

Women have to manage their fertility status responsibly if they are having unprotected sex. It’s not hard or expensive to know if you’re pregnant.

Honey, no.

Having an abortion when you don'tvwant children is what responsibility is. It would not only be irresponsible to have a child you don't want, it would even be immoral.

Birth controls and condoms fail and what if the sex was non-consensual? Or what if the pregnant is a preteen girl?

Only religious zealots oppose abortion.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Honey, no.

Having an abortion when you don'tvwant children is what responsibility is. It would not only be irresponsible to have a child you don't want, it would even be immoral.

Birth controls and condoms fail and what if the sex was non-consensual? Or what if the pregnant is a preteen girl?

Only religious zealots oppose abortion.

Honey yes

I am not approaching this from a religious perspective. The rate of pregnancy by failed contraceptives is small. You still have time to take a simple readily available OTC urine test. If your the victim of non-consensual sex there is Plan B morning after which is given at every ER on presentation as a rape victim.

A state has right to set limits and mine has.

 

[Trickster]

It’s not hard or expensive to know
if you’re pregnant.

Not expensive, but way harder than anti-abortionists who have zero knowledge about the female body think. And y'all oppose sex ed too which is ironic because with very basic sex ed, you'd know this.

• Pregnancy is dated from the first day of the last menstrual period.
• Ovulation (and conception) usually happen at week 2.
• A missed period usually happen at week 4.
• At week 6, the woman has missed one or possibly no period.

Note that:

• Missing a period is very common,
• Early signs of pregnancy show up at week 6, but can easily be mistaken for PMS.
• Many wait with testing to see if bleeding starts.

Also:

• Birth control may cause no regular bleeding atcall making it hard to know if it has failed.
• Teens don't know their bodies yet and may not yet have regular cycles.
• Preteens can get pregnant even before their first period.