Zone1 Is Feminism Destroying the West?

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The draft is still able to be enacted in law. So your anecdotes here don't matter. If a major war starts, America can enact the Draft.

But they won't because any war will be over before a draft can be implemented.

Rhetorically, Why should women be allowed to vote if they can sit back and watch all of us men go die? What if there was a large difference in the sexes as far as a war?

The first thing any professional military member will tell you is that a draft causes more problems than it is worth. Look at what happened to recruiting when Trump took office in January. If the cause is righteous, no draft will ever be required.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

But they won't because any war will be over before a draft can be implemented.

How.

The first thing any professional military member will tell you is that a draft causes more problems than it is worth. Look at what happened to recruiting when Trump took office in January. If the cause is righteous, no draft will ever be required.

It's still a law. It's on the books. Should we abolish it?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

How.

How long does it take to implement a draft and get anybody trained? The Army had to expand their boot camp facilities last Spring to mee the influx of new recruits overloading their training facilities. They had to train a whole flock of drill instructors and technical instructors for those recruits too. My grandniece, (brother's granddaughter) is now a Marine DI at Parris Island.

It's still a law. It's on the books. Should we abolish it?

Absolutely. When they reinstated the selective service act in 1980, I had to register for a draft that never happened and if it did, I was exempt, because I was already considered a veteran at the ripe old age of 19. Didn't keep me from staying active and reserve for 23 years total.

 

[initforme]

As things stand it's likely the cake has been baked and you can't take the ingredients back.

The question is how long will things stand. You've done nothing but support a mindset that will have future generations feel no obligation to this nation, or other people. Hell, your name perfectly defines your worldview, and that's nothing to be proud of.

And guess what, if America falls (which would likely have the sexual revolution, radical feminism as partial reasons), feminism stops existing. People get violent, Local Lordes rise up that are men, they aren't tied to morality or rights, they rule by force. Individual men have to protect women and children and live in poverty. All your girl power BS gets smacked down. Don't you see how fraudulent it all really is? Do you think foreign invading cultures will be feminists? And why should men even protect American first world women if they demand to be so equal? You'd do nothing but survive off the charity of men, like a beggar. This is what can happen when you make enemies of men, as radical modern feminism has done. They have no idea how fragile they are outside of the palace walls of first world America.

Why would america fail? I see that statement as an over the top statement. Out there. Women working isnt going to cause america to fail. My worldview is that people are free to pursue their own paths, not what others tell them. Happiness is living life on ones own terms. Why that would cause anything to "fail" makes no sense. I dont agree with "its your duty" mindset.

 

[Trickster]

By that logic, if you wanted to be a doctor, you should "find your own way", and do your own research and figure out medicine on your own. You can't look at successful doctors and see what they do that makes them successful.

This is the most dishonest and childish interpretation possible of what I wrote. In fact, it is so terrible it does not even deserve engagement.

The same goes for happiness. We know what makes people have more fulfillment in their lives in general. We have that data.

No we very clearly do not.

I know it's a buzz kill for your desire for a vague, subjective, moral relative world.. but exceptions don't make the rule, and smart people stick with what works, generally. If you want to convince people to not be smart, you can do that, but that's not a very nice thing to do.

I'm not a moral relativist nor a subjectivist.

It is your philosophy that falls into those categories more than mine. I mean, you do not even believe in reality - you live inside an evo- psych abstraction and abstract conclusions about the world from this. It's ridiculous.

Nobody said as such. But we have different programming in our brains, in each DNA strand. You can be mad at it, but you can't deny it. All of that behavioral evolution and psychology exists, whether it makes you feel good or not.

The question is, why do those differences matter?

Sure you do, you just can't find a way to debunk it. I'll state it in crayon for you:

• Men have a monopoly on Force

This literally does not make any sense. Are you suggesting the might makes right of the stone age is the preferable political system?

In civilization, it is government that has the momopoly on retaliatory force

* The only way to maintain government, rights, and institutions is with force

No, it is done by enforcing law. Sheer force leaves you with dictatorship amd no rights.

• If you take away men protecting things, women will have no power to maintain them.

My dude, are you in the preschool sandbox or what? Boys rool, girls drool?

Yikes.

How am I wrong?

Your whole reasoning is fundamentally flawed. It is not just about being wrong -- you are willfully being ignorant and that's way worse.

 

[initforme]

Blaming feminism for societal problems is a non starter. Those that want marriage and families are still doing that and those that dont want that arent. So where is the big issue here?

 

[Hafar1014]

Blaming feminism for societal problems is a non starter. Those that want marriage and families are still doing that and those that dont want that arent. So where is the big issue here?

The single mother is the foundation of crime and poverty and its advocated by feminists. What larger societal problems do we have other than poverty and crime.
Add to that woman suffering from depression and anxiety, with weight problems blue hair, progressive beliefs and cant start a family.

 

[Trickster]

The single mother is the foundation of crime and poverty and its advocated by feminists.

What larger societal problems do we have other than poverty and crime.

The foundation? Really now?

That's prime conservative propaganda based on nothing but emotionalism and meant to do nothing but manipulate an emotional response.

How are feminists "advocating" for single motheehood?

Conservatives want to ban abortion - that's a great way to get more poor single mothers and umwanted children growimg up im poverty.

just sayin'.

 

[DonGlock26]

You are homosexual.

You are a white female progressive.

 

[initforme]

The single mother is the foundation of crime and poverty and its advocated by feminists. What larger societal problems do we have other than poverty and crime.
Add to that woman suffering from depression and anxiety, with weight problems blue hair, progressive beliefs and cant start a family.

A marriage has a 50 50 chance of failing. Thats not to blame on feminism. Divorce is rampant and theres no changing that. At least people are putting off marriage until much later in life. Thats a positive trend.

 

[DonGlock26]

Empowering women is the surest way for a developing nation to head to first world status.

And the surest way to create a subclass of whiny incels who thankfully will "unbreed" their undesirable qualities out of the burgeoning, modern society.

First world status isn't massive govt welfare state debt and a below replacement birth rate.
The West is in decline because of the Left's social revolution.

 

[Hafar1014]

A marriage has a 50 50 chance of failing. Thats not to blame on feminism. Divorce is rampant and theres no changing that. At least people are putting off marriage until much later in life. Thats a positive trend.

The problem is women choosing to have children and not marry. No father in the family
50% of marriages dont fail the actual rate is 30% but in those cases the children still have father.
Having children late in life is the main cause of autism which is increasing

Feminism states men are useless. What we got was generation of depressed fat women no man wants to marry

 

[Trickster]

Having children late in life is the main cause of autism which is increasing

Obviously bs, but whatever.

Define "late".

 

[initforme]

The problem is women choosing to have children and not marry. No father in the family
50% of marriages dont fail the actual rate is 30% but in those cases the children still have father.
Having children late in life is the main cause of autism which is increasing

Feminism states men are useless. What we got was generation of depressed fat women no man wants to marry

The divorce rate is higher than 30 percent. There is zero proof having kids later in life causes autiism. Werent we told that was tylenol? Or vaccines?

 

[initforme]

First world status isn't massive govt welfare state debt and a below replacement birth rate.
The West is in decline because of the Left's social revolution.

Freedom to choose your own path thru life is first world. Doing something that some in society tell you and not wanting that is not first world.

 

[DonGlock26]

Freedom to choose your own path thru life is first world. Doing something that some in society tell you and not wanting that is not first world.

So arresting people for praying outside of abortion clinics is not first world. Good to know.

 

[initforme]

So arresting people for praying outside of abortion clinics is not first world. Good

Abortion is in the hands of voters in each state and President Trump did an outstanding job in helping the issue.

 

[DonGlock26]

Abortion is in the hands of voters in each state and President Trump did an outstanding job in helping the issue.

The first world is no longer the first world when it abandons free speech in favor of group think.

 

[initforme]

Why would you bring abortion into this discussion anyway?

 

[DonGlock26]

Why would you bring abortion into this discussion anyway?

It was about free speech.