Iraq is imploding. Should we lend air support or wash our hands?

[dilloduck]

And to think all Saddam had to do was adhere to binding UN resolutions and allow weapons inspectors unrestricted access...

The continuation of the war in iraq was that ragheads fault...nobody elses...

He did.

Then Bush said it was too late, even though we hadn't invaded yet.

That's right! The lying BushWhacker ordered the UN to remove the inspectors.

USATODAY.com - U.S advises weapons inspectors to leave Iraq

U.S advises weapons inspectors to leave Iraq
VIENNA, Austria (AP) — In the clearest sign yet that war with Iraq is imminent, the United States has advised U.N. weapons inspectors to begin pulling out of Baghdad, the U.N. nuclear agency chief said Monday.

Cmon ---even your own link says "advised" not "ordered". If you insist on telling lies at least be sneaky.

 

[BlindBoo]

He did.

Then Bush said it was too late, even though we hadn't invaded yet.

That's right! The lying BushWhacker ordered the UN to remove the inspectors.

USATODAY.com - U.S advises weapons inspectors to leave Iraq

U.S advises weapons inspectors to leave Iraq
VIENNA, Austria (AP) — In the clearest sign yet that war with Iraq is imminent, the United States has advised U.N. weapons inspectors to begin pulling out of Baghdad, the U.N. nuclear agency chief said Monday.

Because hussein wasn't cooperating and sabotaging their work, but keep on posting lies and half truths like most idiot libtards do. Bush was 10 times better than obamashitforbrains but you idiots can't get obamashitforbrains dick out of your mouth to see it.

A complete fabrication.

"In the buildup to the war, Saddam Hussein and the Iraqis were cooperating with U.N. inspections, and in February 2003 had provided Blix's team with the names of hundreds of scientists to interview, individuals Saddam claimed had been involved in the destruction of banned weapons. Had the inspections been allowed to continue, Blix said, there would likely be a very different situation in Iraq today. As it was, America's pre-emptive, unilateral actions "have bred more terrorism there and elsewhere.""

U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix faults Bush Administration for lack of "critical thinking" in Iraq

There you have it. Han Blix, the head of the UN inspection team predicted in 2004 the eventual outcome of the Bush Administrations (and Blairs) lies about Iraq would bred more terrorist.

 

[Samson]

That's right! The lying BushWhacker ordered the UN to remove the inspectors.

USATODAY.com - U.S advises weapons inspectors to leave Iraq

U.S advises weapons inspectors to leave Iraq
VIENNA, Austria (AP) — In the clearest sign yet that war with Iraq is imminent, the United States has advised U.N. weapons inspectors to begin pulling out of Baghdad, the U.N. nuclear agency chief said Monday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvDe7Z-ykDo

Because hussein wasn't cooperating and sabotaging their work, but keep on posting lies and half truths like most idiot libtards do. Bush was 10 times better than obamashitforbrains but you idiots can't get obamashitforbrains dick out of your mouth to see it.

A complete fabrication.

"In the buildup to the war, Saddam Hussein and the Iraqis were cooperating with U.N. inspections, and in February 2003 had provided Blix's team with the names of hundreds of scientists to interview, individuals Saddam claimed had been involved in the destruction of banned weapons. Had the inspections been allowed to continue, Blix said, there would likely be a very different situation in Iraq today. As it was, America's pre-emptive, unilateral actions "have bred more terrorism there and elsewhere.""

U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix faults Bush Administration for lack of "critical thinking" in Iraq

There you have it. Han Blix, the head of the UN inspection team predicted in 2004 the eventual outcome of the Bush Administrations (and Blairs) lies about Iraq would bred more terrorist.

Probably about 500+ threads that rehash the finger pointing over the start of the Iraq war.

I'm interested in what Obama has done for the past 6 years, and why he's let Iraq fall apart in the past month.



Poor leadership.

***unsub***

 

[paulitician]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQJOYsY11L0]Ron Paul's Texas Straight Talk 6/16/14: Haven't We Already Done Enough Damage in Iraq? - YouTube[/ame]

 

[georgephillip]

I wonder if Dr. Paul can tell us how to make peace more profitable than war?

Perhaps as a first step, we could force congress to investigate the huge amounts of graft and corruption that marred our invasions/occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan and continue to this minute?

 

[edthecynic]

He did.

Then Bush said it was too late, even though we hadn't invaded yet.

That's right! The lying BushWhacker ordered the UN to remove the inspectors.

USATODAY.com - U.S advises weapons inspectors to leave Iraq

U.S advises weapons inspectors to leave Iraq
VIENNA, Austria (AP) — In the clearest sign yet that war with Iraq is imminent, the United States has advised U.N. weapons inspectors to begin pulling out of Baghdad, the U.N. nuclear agency chief said Monday.

Because hussein wasn't cooperating and sabotaging their work, but keep on posting lies and half truths like most idiot libtards do. Bush was 10 times better than obamashitforbrains but you idiots can't get obamashitforbrains dick out of your mouth to see it.

Just another Right-wing/GOP lie. If you watched the video, which obviously you didn't, you would have seen Hans Blix testify that he had unfettered access to everything including unannounced inspections.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

You mean at the very last second when war was imminent saddam was able to convince little brained liberals he was serious this time ? Gullible imbeciles they are...

 

[Steinlight]

Saddam, miss him yet?

 

[BlindBoo]

Because hussein wasn't cooperating and sabotaging their work, but keep on posting lies and half truths like most idiot libtards do. Bush was 10 times better than obamashitforbrains but you idiots can't get obamashitforbrains dick out of your mouth to see it.

A complete fabrication.

"In the buildup to the war, Saddam Hussein and the Iraqis were cooperating with U.N. inspections, and in February 2003 had provided Blix's team with the names of hundreds of scientists to interview, individuals Saddam claimed had been involved in the destruction of banned weapons. Had the inspections been allowed to continue, Blix said, there would likely be a very different situation in Iraq today. As it was, America's pre-emptive, unilateral actions "have bred more terrorism there and elsewhere.""

U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix faults Bush Administration for lack of "critical thinking" in Iraq

There you have it. Han Blix, the head of the UN inspection team predicted in 2004 the eventual outcome of the Bush Administrations (and Blairs) lies about Iraq would bred more terrorist.

Probably about 500+ threads that rehash the finger pointing over the start of the Iraq war.

I'm interested in what Obama has done for the past 6 years, and why he's let Iraq fall apart in the past month.



Poor leadership.

***unsub***

Probably so. Republicans are always trying to rewrite the history of how it began.

Iraq is Bushes baby from start to finish. He broke it. He couldn't fix it. He passed his monumental strategic blunder to the next president. His decision to invade and occupy Iraq created more terrorist and resentment toward America. And now the Republicans desperately want to blame President Obama for President Bushes failure in Iraq.

Typical Republican deflection.

Sore losers.

 

[Steinlight]

Does ISIS have a US branch office?

 

[edthecynic]

Saddam, miss him yet?

 

[georgephillip]

"Iraq has asked the US to stage air attacks on Sunni insurgents as the Islamist fighters edged closer to full control of Iraq's largest oil refinery and continued to hold out against troops trying to retake the city of Tal Afar.

"As the war to redefine the region's borders entered a second week, Iraq's foreign minister, Hoshyar Zebari, appeared on al-Arabiya television to issue the urgent plea: 'We request the United States to launch air strikes against militants.'

"Witnesses at the Baiji refinery – between the cities of Mosul and Tikrit, both seized by the insurgent group last week – said insurgents broke through the perimeter of the site early on Wednesday and were within sight of administration buildings."

Iraq requests US air strikes as Isis insurgents tighten grip on oil refinery | World news | The Guardian

Loss of the refinery at Baiji would bring back gas lines and reduced electricity in Baghdad, making Maliki's hold on the government even shakier.

What follows the US puppet could be even worse for Iraq's Sunni and Shiite civilians.

 

[candycorn]

The terrorists are now marching on Bagdad. The Iraq government is asking for help, should we oblige?
Seems strange to me that we would spend all the money & lives just to let it fall in a matter of weeks/months.

I wonder how many would admit to supporting the great Iraqi misadventure today?

 

[francoHFW]

Saddam, miss him yet?

A total mess since Reagan... Stupidest crap ever.

 

[Desperado]

They voted us out, it is past time to leave. we are no longer wanted there.

 

[healthmyths]

The terrorists are now marching on Bagdad. The Iraq government is asking for help, should we oblige?
Seems strange to me that we would spend all the money & lives just to let it fall in a matter of weeks/months.

I wonder how many would admit to supporting the great Iraqi misadventure today?

First of all you evidently have little if no FACTS about Iraq.

Hey... I totally supported the 1991War and the 2001 Liberation of Iraq because AT that time the USA was importing from OPEC
In During December 2002, the United States imported 11.3 million barrels of oil from Iraq.
In 2018 2,890,000 barrels per day
How Oil Influenced the 2003 US Invasion of Iraq
The last time the U.S. exported more oil than it imported was 1953.
Plus the same intelligence sources that the Democrats today say are totally unbiased, etc...
not accounting for these people's anti-Trump statements:
Ex-CIA Director John Brennan Accuses Trump Of Treason Following Putin Summit
Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper accused President Trump of ‘aiding and abetting our arch adversary’ following Trump’s summit with Putin in Helsinki, Finland Monday.
And the same democrats supported Iraq Liberation...

"Together we must also confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons, and the outlaw states, terrorists and organized criminals seeking to acquire them. Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade, and much of his nation's wealth, not on providing for the Iraqi people, but on developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them."
President Clinton, Jan. 27, 1998.

"It is essential that a dictator like Saddam not be allowed to evade international strictures and wield frightening weapons of mass destruction. As long as UNSCOM is prevented from carrying out its mission, the effort to monitor Iraqi compliance with Resolution 687 becomes a dangerous shell game. Neither the United States nor the global community can afford to allow Saddam Hussein to continue on this path."
Sen. Tom Daschle (D, SD), Feb. 12, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeleine Albright, Feb. 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb. 18, 1998.

"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeleine Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.
Reasons for War: Things you might have forgotten about Iraq.
All Democrats who totally supported the Liberation of Iraq...BUT when Bush became President???

They and their MSM allies called it an "Invasion of Iraq"....
Finally maybe you should ask the Iraqi people when
a) 3.6 million Iraqi children who would have starved to death if Saddam was still in power certainly find the price worth it!
Iraq Sanctions Kill Children, U.N. Reports
or
b) these idiots who were against the Liberation of Iraq would be happy that the Per person GDP would still be at $637 in 2003 or now after 15 years guess GDP $17,000 in 2017
If you asked Iraqis today which would they prefer.. $637 versus $17,000 a 2,669% increase
Middle East :: Iraq — The World Factbook - Central Intelligence Agency

 

[candycorn]

The terrorists are now marching on Bagdad. The Iraq government is asking for help, should we oblige?
Seems strange to me that we would spend all the money & lives just to let it fall in a matter of weeks/months.

I wonder how many would admit to supporting the great Iraqi misadventure today?

First of all you evidently have little if no FACTS about Iraq.

Hey... I totally supported the 1991War and the 2001 Liberation of Iraq because AT that time the USA was importing from OPEC
In During December 2002, the United States imported 11.3 million barrels of oil from Iraq.
In 2018 2,890,000 barrels per day
How Oil Influenced the 2003 US Invasion of Iraq
The last time the U.S. exported more oil than it imported was 1953.
Plus the same intelligence sources that the Democrats today say are totally unbiased, etc...
not accounting for these people's anti-Trump statements:
Ex-CIA Director John Brennan Accuses Trump Of Treason Following Putin Summit
Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper accused President Trump of ‘aiding and abetting our arch adversary’ following Trump’s summit with Putin in Helsinki, Finland Monday.
And the same democrats supported Iraq Liberation...

"Together we must also confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons, and the outlaw states, terrorists and organized criminals seeking to acquire them. Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade, and much of his nation's wealth, not on providing for the Iraqi people, but on developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them."
President Clinton, Jan. 27, 1998.

"It is essential that a dictator like Saddam not be allowed to evade international strictures and wield frightening weapons of mass destruction. As long as UNSCOM is prevented from carrying out its mission, the effort to monitor Iraqi compliance with Resolution 687 becomes a dangerous shell game. Neither the United States nor the global community can afford to allow Saddam Hussein to continue on this path."
Sen. Tom Daschle (D, SD), Feb. 12, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeleine Albright, Feb. 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb. 18, 1998.

"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeleine Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.
Reasons for War: Things you might have forgotten about Iraq.
All Democrats who totally supported the Liberation of Iraq...BUT when Bush became President???

They and their MSM allies called it an "Invasion of Iraq"....
Finally maybe you should ask the Iraqi people when
a) 3.6 million Iraqi children who would have starved to death if Saddam was still in power certainly find the price worth it!
Iraq Sanctions Kill Children, U.N. Reports
or
b) these idiots who were against the Liberation of Iraq would be happy that the Per person GDP would still be at $637 in 2003 or now after 15 years guess GDP $17,000 in 2017
If you asked Iraqis today which would they prefer.. $637 versus $17,000 a 2,669% increase
Middle East :: Iraq — The World Factbook - Central Intelligence Agency

And this week after tens of billions of dollars, thousands of Americans dead, the country we “liberated” has told us to get lost.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Which loser troll bumped this trying to take my feelings out of context?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

They voted us out, it is past time to leave. we are no longer wanted there.

You will get no argument out of me.

Fuck the sand crabs, let them slaughter each other

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The terrorists are now marching on Bagdad. The Iraq government is asking for help, should we oblige?
Seems strange to me that we would spend all the money & lives just to let it fall in a matter of weeks/months.

I wonder how many would admit to supporting the great Iraqi misadventure today?

I supported it. I was wrong.

Thing is, I have no say so