Iraq is imploding. Should we lend air support or wash our hands?

[Bush92]

Never in favor of going in from the get-go. Afghanistan =YES Iraq=FUCK NO!

 

[georgephillip]

The Constitution is the roadmap for issues of War. If they had followed the Constitution and debated the War properly, it probably wouldn't have happened. These interventions are wrong. The Iraq War has only made things worse for the American People. A more powerful Iran and Al Qaeda has been the tragic result. We need to force our Politicians to follow the Constitution. Most of these awful blunders would likely be avoided.

We need prosecutions of some kind to make sure such blunders aren't perpetrated in the future. It seems unlikely a majority of Americans would get behind trials for war crimes, but many might support prosecution of the graft and corruption that ran rampant during the US occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Official Study: US Wasted Billions in Iraq, Afghanistan -- News from Antiwar.com

Where is Eric "Fast 'n Furious" Holder when you need him?

Probably on his way back to Covington & Burling.

 

[bendog]

I wonder what our soldiers think. Especially the ones that were wounded in Iraq.

I think they knew the "mission" was fubar but they did their best to help others in their units get through as best they could. I think your question would better be asked of posters who supported BushII elective war in the first damn place.

 

[Kondor3]

I wonder what our soldiers think. Especially the ones that were wounded in Iraq.

Vietnam... 2-3 years after leaving... but with sand, this time?

 

[Kondor3]

...War of Aggression.
Responsible for all the evil that follows.
Hang Bush, Blair, and Cheney...

Whatever for?

If it keeps Militant Islam busy killing each other in large numbers for a decade or two, what the hell...

Give the bastards a medal...

 

[georgephillip]

...War of Aggression.
Responsible for all the evil that follows.
Hang Bush, Blair, and Cheney...

Whatever for?

If it keeps Militant Islam busy killing each other in large numbers for a decade or two, what the hell...

Give the bastards a medal...

For war crimes?
What do you plan on giving the bastards when the next 911 hits?

 

[Kondor3]

...War of Aggression.
Responsible for all the evil that follows.
Hang Bush, Blair, and Cheney...

Whatever for?

If it keeps Militant Islam busy killing each other in large numbers for a decade or two, what the hell...

Give the bastards a medal...

For war crimes?
What do you plan on giving the bastards when the next 911 hits?

The codes for the nuclear football?

We'll just wink at the rest, because it involves Militant Muslims killing each other in large quantities.

 

[georgephillip]

Whatever for?

If it keeps Militant Islam busy killing each other in large numbers for a decade or two, what the hell...

Give the bastards a medal...

For war crimes?
What do you plan on giving the bastards when the next 911 hits?

The codes for the nuclear football?

We'll just wink at the rest, because it involves Militant Muslims killing each other in large quantities.

Wink at the codes for nuclear winter?

 

[Kondor3]

For war crimes?
What do you plan on giving the bastards when the next 911 hits?

The codes for the nuclear football?

We'll just wink at the rest, because it involves Militant Muslims killing each other in large quantities.

Wink at the codes for nuclear winter?

Nahhhhh... just a half-dozen low-yield city-busters... nothing as dramatic as that.

 

[Antares]

We need to blast these convoys of our equipment going into Syria.

Obama needs to butch up and make the call.

 

[U2Edge]

The Sunni Saudis have been funding ISIS

Such a setback for Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has been the dream of Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah for years. He has regarded Maliki as little more than an Iranian stooge, refusing to send an ambassador to Baghdad and instead encouraging his fellow rulers of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) -- Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, and Oman -- to take a similar standoff-ish approach. Although vulnerable to al Qaeda-types at home, these countries (particularly Kuwait and Qatar) have often turned a blind eye to their citizens funding radical groups like Jabhat al-Nusra, one of the most active Islamist groups opposed to Assad in Syria.
Currently on vacation in Morocco, King Abdullah has so far been silent on these developments. At 90-plus years old, he has shown no wish to join the Twitter generation, but the developments on the ground could well prompt him to cut short his stay and return home. He has no doubt realized that -- with his policy of delivering a strategic setback to Iran by orchestrating the overthrow of Assad in Damascus showing little sign of any imminent success -- events in Iraq offer a new opportunity.

Good observation. The Sunni Rebels in Iraq aren't going away. They're very well-funded by Saudi Arabia and other wealthy Sunni Nations in the region. They despise the Shiites and especially Iran. They're doing the same in Syria. They're very concerned with Iran's rapidly expanding power & influence.

It's not really about the U.S. anymore. We can do some bombing, but the Sunni Rebels in Iraq will survive and continue fighting. It's an awful mess for sure. And yes, we are responsible for the mess. Iran & Al Qaeda's power in the region has grown since the Iraq War. It was a monumental blunder.

That's not totally true. Saudi Arabia has funded many different rebel groups in Syria, but they have grown concerned about ISIS. Hell, even Al Quada has.

One thing to remember in all this is the demographics of Iraq:

IRAQ
60% Shia ARAB
20% Sunni ARAB
15% KURD
05% others to include Turks, Persians, Jews, and Christians.

Its very difficult to be successful in a sectarian war when your sect at most is only 20% of the population.

SYRIA
76% Sunni ARAB
12% Alawite(similar to shia)
12% Christian, Druze, others.

The Alawites are still in control of much of Syria including the central government because the Syrian military force and structure is still intact and has tens of thousands of heavy weapons systems. The only thing that is preventing the Alawite ruling minority from being crushed by the Sunni Arab majority is the Syrian Military.

In Iraq, the Sunni Arab's no longer have Saddam's regime or Saddam's military. At 20% of the population, and with the least rich oil reserves in the Sunni Arab majority provinces, their chances of winning a sectarian war against the other 80% are slim to none, despite the events of the past week.

If Maliki corrects the mistakes he has made the past 3 years since US troops left and reaches out to the Sunni ARAB community, he might be able to save his own job as President of a united Iraq. The ISIS terrorist have very little to play with given the demographics in Iraq and if you could erase the mistakes of the past 3 years, they never would have been able to cross the border from Syria.

 

[georgephillip]

Possibly the biggest mistake of all since the disastrous illegal invasion of Iraq took place was the dissolution of the Iraqi army. Had that not occurred, ISIS would have found it much more difficult to acquire its caliphate.

"Baghdad, Iraq (CNN) -- Iraq's military claimed Wednesday to have driven back militants who stormed the country's main oil refinery in the town of Baiji, the latest front in the battle for control of swaths of Iraq.

"Iraqi forces killed 40 militants from the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, or ISIS, said Iraqi military spokesman Gen. Qasem Atta, in a televised news conference. Baiji is 225 kilometers (140 miles) north of Baghdad, the capital.

"'The situation in Tal Afar, Samarra, and Baiji is under control,' Atta said.

"He claimed that Iraq's military were 'defeating ISIS in the Baiji area' and that 'most of the areas' around the northwestern city of Tal Afar were liberated."

Iraq crisis: ISIS driven back from Baiji oil refinery, military says - CNN.com

 

[LogikAndReazon]

And to think all Saddam had to do was adhere to binding UN resolutions and allow weapons inspectors unrestricted access...

The continuation of the war in iraq was that ragheads fault...nobody elses...

 

[georgephillip]

And to think all Saddam had to do was adhere to binding UN resolutions and allow weapons inspectors unrestricted access...

The continuation of the war in iraq was that ragheads fault...nobody elses...

The illegal US invasion of Iraq is the primary reason for all the mayhem in the Middle East since March of 2003. Those who support and profit from a war of aggression often blame their victims.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

War of 'aggression" .... Hardly

Our restraint was remarkable and is to be commended.
Now we should show those jihadist animals no mercy...

Eh, marxist tool ???

 

[georgephillip]

War of 'aggression" .... Hardly

Our restraint was remarkable and is to be commended.
Now we should show those jihadist animals no mercy...

Eh, marxist tool ???

War of aggression as in the supreme international crime, differing from other war crimes only because it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole. Like the evil you corporate porkers are squealing about in Syria and Mosul, Cracker.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Yes, yes.... Lets ask the monumental douchebags over at the "international criminal court" what the implications are...

Because the opinions of European socialists, third world banana republics and marxist totalitarians matter....... Lol

 

[Synthaholic]

And to think all Saddam had to do was adhere to binding UN resolutions and allow weapons inspectors unrestricted access...

The continuation of the war in iraq was that ragheads fault...nobody elses...

He did.

Then Bush said it was too late, even though we hadn't invaded yet.

 

[edthecynic]

And to think all Saddam had to do was adhere to binding UN resolutions and allow weapons inspectors unrestricted access...

The continuation of the war in iraq was that ragheads fault...nobody elses...

He did.

Then Bush said it was too late, even though we hadn't invaded yet.

That's right! The lying BushWhacker ordered the UN to remove the inspectors.

USATODAY.com - U.S advises weapons inspectors to leave Iraq

U.S advises weapons inspectors to leave Iraq
VIENNA, Austria (AP) — In the clearest sign yet that war with Iraq is imminent, the United States has advised U.N. weapons inspectors to begin pulling out of Baghdad, the U.N. nuclear agency chief said Monday.

 

[AmericanFirst]

And to think all Saddam had to do was adhere to binding UN resolutions and allow weapons inspectors unrestricted access...

The continuation of the war in iraq was that ragheads fault...nobody elses...

He did.

Then Bush said it was too late, even though we hadn't invaded yet.

That's right! The lying BushWhacker ordered the UN to remove the inspectors.

USATODAY.com - U.S advises weapons inspectors to leave Iraq

U.S advises weapons inspectors to leave Iraq
VIENNA, Austria (AP) — In the clearest sign yet that war with Iraq is imminent, the United States has advised U.N. weapons inspectors to begin pulling out of Baghdad, the U.N. nuclear agency chief said Monday.

Because hussein wasn't cooperating and sabotaging their work, but keep on posting lies and half truths like most idiot libtards do. Bush was 10 times better than obamashitforbrains but you idiots can't get obamashitforbrains dick out of your mouth to see it.