Iran Is Crying Uncle

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Obama hinted at the military and diplomatic quagmire he inherited from a Bush administration that had promised Americans a quick and easy war that would see Iraqis scattering flowers at the feet of US soldiers. Instead, the American invasion unleashed a conflict - part civil war, part anti-occupation - that dragged on for years.

But the president, who came to power promising to end the war, said that for all the suffering, the result was success.

"We knew this day would come. We've known it for some time. But still there is something profound about the end of a war that has lasted so long," said Obama. "It's harder to end a war than begin one. Everything that American troops have done in Iraq - all the fighting, all the dying, the bleeding and the building and the training and the partnering, all of it has landed to this moment of success."


Obama's studiously avoided declaring victory or the hubris of his predecessor, George Bush, who paraded under a banner proclaiming "Mission Accomplished" just as the worst of the killing in Iraq was about to begin. But the president said that the US has left Iraq better than it found it.

"Iraq's not a perfect place. It has many challenges ahead. But we're leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self reliant Iraq with a representative government that was elected by its people. We're building a new partnership between our nations and we are ending a war not with a final battle but with a final march toward home. This is an extraordinary achievement," he said.

That interpretation is strongly disputed by critics of the way who say the conflict has destabilised the region, strengthened Iran and exposed US military shortcomings which may encourage future conflict. It is also claimed by critics that the war has strengthened hostility to the US and fueled not deterred terrorism.
Obama said Iraq was free and stable
 
These guys will criticize anything. They don’t like how Biden and Obama got us out of two quagmires they couldn’t get us out of.

And don’t anyone suggest trump would have not lost those 13 lives IF he would have got us out of Afghanistan. If. He’s been known to lie. Said he’d end the russia and Israel wars in 1 day. How’s he doing?

He’s getting us into a war in the Middle East you say? Like bush got us into iraq? Shocker
bobo are you falling apart?....
 
If any American leader falls for Iran's request for talks, they're too stupid to be in politics. Anyone can see what Iran is doing—they're stalling for time. They want to rebuild their air defense systems so they can take down more advanced and expensive Israeli jets.

No, it's Israel that's being smart here. They have the advantage, so keep the pressure on. Iran is at the disadvantage in this trade-off. Their economy is almost entirely dependent on oil, and their infrastructure is huge and nearly impossible to protect. The Israelis should systematically dismantle the entire thing and leave the regime impoverished and unable to carry on its aggressive programs, which have destroyed so many lives across the Middle East.
 
Cleaning up the Biden global and domestic mess he conducted from a beach chair will be worse and more costly and bloody than the clean up of Obama's mess....
But we have the right man to do it...
 
Peace through strength. These places only respect power.

Iran called on U.S. President Donald Trump on Monday to force Israel to cease fire as the only way to end the four-day-old aerial war

Sources told Reuters that Tehran had asked Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Oman to press Trump to use his influence on Israel to agree to an immediate ceasefire. In return, Iran would show flexibility in nuclear negotiations, said the two Iranian and three regional sources.



I don't think tRump has any influence on Israel at this point.
 
Cleaning up the Biden global and domestic mess he conducted from a beach chair will be worse and more costly and bloody than the clean up of Obama's mess....
But we have the right man to do it...
WTF are you babbling about?

"Fixing"? He's making shit worse by the day!!!
 
Peace through strength. These places only respect power.

Iran called on U.S. President Donald Trump on Monday to force Israel to cease fire as the only way to end the four-day-old aerial war

Sources told Reuters that Tehran had asked Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Oman to press Trump to use his influence on Israel to agree to an immediate ceasefire. In return, Iran would show flexibility in nuclear negotiations, said the two Iranian and three regional sources.




Um "flexibility" but just a show?

Nope. The point of negotiation has passed and is gone. Now they get to receive the consequences.

They will say and do anything to stop the bombing so they can regroup militarily. They are flat footed. Totally unprepared for the storm they have.

Sure, they are firing ballistic missiles but they are doing no damage....meanwhile the leadership is in trouble domestically as well as with Israel.

A few countries have stepped up to host negotiations.....but Iran refuses to attend.
 
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So Trump is going to start a war?

You don't see a problem with the mullahs having nukes? Seriously? These are psychotic fanatics who would sacrifice their own people—or yours—for the glory of who-knows-what. They're not just reckless; they're unhinged. People like that cannot be allowed to possess nuclear weapons.

They're worse than the North Koreans. At least Pyongyang’s leaders want to live. These lunatics glorify death—or at least they want it for everyone but themselves. That mindset is terrifying.

If Israel’s military and intelligence efforts can help empower the Iranian people to rise up and overthrow the mullahs, the world will be a far safer, freer place. Because when leaders welcome death instead of fearing it, they become one of the most powerful and dangerous threats to peace in the atomic age.
 
because she ran towards the smoke and debris I think thats fake,,
Guess you've never been in fight or flight situation before.

When people are scared...they panic and they run,......and it doesn't make any sense.

Looked to me she was looking for an exit.
 
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