Iran Is Crying Uncle

[HaShev]

Iran is 4 times the size of Iraq. How did we do the last time a Republican destablized the region?

The one thing I'll say is that the Iranian people are good people and it would be nice if they became more like Turkey. Still a wacko Islamic government but the people live pretty freely there.

Doesn't mean I want to liberate them though.

And you'd be saying a lot more than that. You'd be saying she's insane and needs to be impeached.

You know who else would be saying that? Trump

“When she first got in and was named speaker, I met her. And I’m very impressed by her. I think she’s a very impressive person. I like her a lot. But I was surprised that she didn’t do more in terms of Bush and going after Bush. It was almost – it just seemed like she was going to really look to impeach Bush and get him out of office, which personally I think would’ve been a wonderful thing,” Trump told Blitzer in the interview.

“Impeaching him?” Blitzer asked.

“Absolutely. For the war. For the war,” said Trump, referring to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. “Well, he lied. He got us into the war with lies

Harry, I'm so sick of Israel lying and telling us Iran is 1 month or 6 months away from having a nuke. Bibi has been saying that for 30 years. **** Israel.

The problem with your premise is that it's out of context of Trump at the time of the war was a Dem, so he listened to false narratives that said WMD did not exist, which is a false subjective word game spin by the Dems and MSM which he was a viewer of at the time.
FACT: WE FOUND THE CHEM WEAPONS IN SYRIA which is what the intelligence community knew they were smuggled to the neighboring country.
Obama and MSM covered this up by stating it was Syria's chem weapons that time he gave them an ultimatum to destroy (the evidence), but it wasn't all Syrias, most was Iraqs smuggled into Syria, just politicsl word play, yes now they were Now Syrias, but where did they come from-Doh!
Fact: Iraq had tons of chem weapon antidotes that we found, there is no reason to have that if wmd chem weapons didn't exist-Doh!
Subjective? How much chem weapons till you consider it mass weapons¿
= Political spin word games.
Trump being a Dem fell for it not yet knowing about fake news or how seriously dimented and pathological his fellow collegues (some being politicians ) were .

 

[HaShev]

 

[Mac-7]

No one wanted India, Pakistan or Israel to have nukes either.

And no one wants the USA or Russia to have them either.

So, the more the merrier, huh?

I dont think so

 

[HaShev]

JUNE 20 targeted in Iran:​

Missile production sites.
The IDF reported hitting several missile manufacturing industrial sites in the Tehran area, including production sites for missile components and rocket engines.
A Nuclear research facility was targeted today.
The attack was carried out on the Organization of Defensive Innovation and Research (SPND), which is involved in Iran's nuclear weapons development. The IDF said this facility was the headquarters of the SPND program, described by the US as the direct successor to Iran's pre-2004 nuclear program.

There were dozens of military targets today, aimed at undermining Iran's military and nuclear capabilities.
The full extent of the damage caused by these strikes is difficult to account, due to Iran's near-total internet blackout

 

[JohnDB]

Just putting this here.

The first casualty in any war is the truth.

 

[sealybobo]

The problem with your premise is that it's out of context of Trump at the time of the war was a Dem, so he listened to false narratives that said WMD did not exist, which is a false subjective word game spin by the Dems and MSM which he was a viewer of at the time.
FACT: WE FOUND THE CHEM WEAPONS IN SYRIA which is what the intelligence community knew they were smuggled to the neighboring country.
Obama and MSM covered this up by stating it was Syria's chem weapons that time he gave them an ultimatum to destroy (the evidence), but it wasn't all Syrias, most was Iraqs smuggled into Syria, just politicsl word play, yes now they were Now Syrias, but where did they come from-Doh!
Fact: Iraq had tons of chem weapon antidotes that we found, there is no reason to have that if wmd chem weapons didn't exist-Doh!
Subjective? How much chem weapons till you consider it mass weapons¿
= Political spin word games.
Trump being a Dem fell for it not yet knowing about fake news or how seriously dimented and pathological his fellow collegues (some being politicians ) were .

What bullshit! Utter. Funny you guys who don't believe the lyin media and politicians, believe the lyin media and politicians. It's so ******* obvious Trump's trying to lie us into this war.

Bibi has been saying Iran is 6 months away from a nuke for 30 years. Wake up!

 

[sealybobo]

Just putting this here.

The first casualty in any war is the truth.

You mean half of MAGA doesn't agree with Elon about the BBB?

You mean you're okay with Trump turning a blind eye to illegals as long as they are only working at farms, hotels and restaurants? You can't seriously think he's going to fix this problem and make these exceptions do you?

And you America First types aren't mad he's taking us to another needless war?

Oh this war is necessary you say? LOLOLOLOL

 

[JohnDB]

You mean half of MAGA doesn't agree with Elon about the BBB?

You mean you're okay with Trump turning a blind eye to illegals as long as they are only working at farms, hotels and restaurants? You can't seriously think he's going to fix this problem and make these exceptions do you?

And you America First types aren't mad he's taking us to another needless war?

Oh this war is necessary you say? LOLOLOLOL

Ummmm...

Are you using recreational drugs?
Never said or intimated anything you just said.

Or are YOU a bot?

If not....prove it!

 

[sealybobo]

Ummmm...

Are you using recreational drugs?
Never said or intimated anything you just said.

Or are YOU a bot?

If not....prove it!

The proof will be the midterm elections next year. Although you idiots did re elect Bush in 2004 after he lied us into Iraq so...

 

[JohnDB]

The proof will be the midterm elections next year. Although you idiots did re elect Bush in 2004 after he lied us into Iraq so...

Democrats are broke. Not enough money to finance the mid-terms much less a 2028 presidential bid.
Pelosi nor Schumer has any money to spread to candidates.

Then their agenda has been overrun by Iranian and Russian bot farms.

The Democrat agenda has always been borderline to begin with. But it's gone way over the border with all the bots recently. (Reason for all the over the top wild accusations lately)
These things are destroying the Democrats as a party. Fundraising is dead. Nobody is contributing.

Granted Democrats have lost the last three presidential elections and lost majorities in both houses of congress....but they have the Judicial branch for a limited time. (Now ridiculously overused and looking at some congressional oversight)

So....
What America needs is a "new agenda" Democrat Party. Someone to provide true checks and balances on the Republicans.

All Americans like some of the things Trump is doing with deportations, closing the border, eliminating DEI agendas, cutting the budget through DOGE and etc.

But there are other agendas that need addressing. Small businesses, family farming and Farm Credit....plus the medical insurance fiasco of medical insurance becoming more complicated to use than DNA research. The cutting of profits off of insulin has caused a severe shortage of the drug. Patients are desperate for alternatives as drug makers are stopping the production of it.
Monsanto's hold over the crop seeds by genetically modifying them is another problem.

Lots of issues out there to address....Democrats could make gains off of ANY of these issues. But instead Iran and Russia are controlling the narrative of their agenda through bot farms.
Dumb DUMB DUMB.

 

[sealybobo]

Democrats are broke. Not enough money to finance the mid-terms much less a 2028 presidential bid.
Pelosi nor Schumer has any money to spread to candidates.

Then their agenda has been overrun by Iranian and Russian bot farms.

The Democrat agenda has always been borderline to begin with. But it's gone way over the border with all the bots recently. (Reason for all the over the top wild accusations lately)
These things are destroying the Democrats as a party. Fundraising is dead. Nobody is contributing.

Granted Democrats have lost the last three presidential elections and lost majorities in both houses of congress....but they have the Judicial branch for a limited time. (Now ridiculously overused and looking at some congressional oversight)

So....
What America needs is a "new agenda" Democrat Party. Someone to provide true checks and balances on the Republicans.

All Americans like some of the things Trump is doing with deportations, closing the border, eliminating DEI agendas, cutting the budget through DOGE and etc.

But there are other agendas that need addressing. Small businesses, family farming and Farm Credit....plus the medical insurance fiasco of medical insurance becoming more complicated to use than DNA research. The cutting of profits off of insulin has caused a severe shortage of the drug. Patients are desperate for alternatives as drug makers are stopping the production of it.
Monsanto's hold over the crop seeds by genetically modifying them is another problem.

Lots of issues out there to address....Democrats could make gains off of ANY of these issues. But instead Iran and Russia are controlling the narrative of their agenda through bot farms.
Dumb DUMB DUMB.

Are you kidding? Elon is backing us now.

Not all Americans. And we might have liked what Trump said campaigning but his actions are causing a Civil war within the GOP. Like war with Iran. Or allowing illegals to stay so long as they are only working restaurants, hotels, golf courses and farms. What a joke.

Small business' are PISSED at Trump. His tariffs are really ******* them.

Remember trump went on and on about Eggs? What about BACON?

Bacon lovers beware – your favorite breakfast meat is getting more expensive, and local restaurants are feeling the heat.

Specifically, pork bacon prices in May were up 5.7% from April and 18% from May of the previous year

Democrats just need to run on Bacon Prices. LOL.

Trump is doing a horrible job. The world is on fire and it's actually due to his decisions. Wake up you loyal pup.

 

[sealybobo]

Just putting this here.

The first casualty in any war is the truth.

For Trump, a military conflict with Iran would distract from:
-Sinking poll numbers
-A devastating (and unpopular) budget bill
-Harmful trade wars
-Unleashing the military on American soil
-Millions of people protesting his authoritarianism

And one thing he had to take back was when he

Trump reverses brief reprieve for immigrants he said are 'good, long time workers'​

The Trump administration has reopened arrests of immigrant workers at hotels, restaurants and agricultural businesses, backtracking on the brief reprieve they got after President Donald Trump stated they were necessary, good, longtime workers whose jobs were almost "impossible" to replace.

I don't care what he says. ICE ain't going after illegals in red states that work on farms, hotels and restaurants. Of course publicly he had to take that back because guys like Correll lost their shit. I haven't heard from correll since. I mean 3 major let downs. The spending, not going after illegals in red states and now lying us into Iraq.

Yea, things are going great you fucktard.

 

[JohnDB]

Are you kidding? Elon is backing us now.

Not all Americans. And we might have liked what Trump said campaigning but his actions are causing a Civil war within the GOP. Like war with Iran. Or allowing illegals to stay so long as they are only working restaurants, hotels, golf courses and farms. What a joke.

Small business' are PISSED at Trump. His tariffs are really ******* them.

Remember trump went on and on about Eggs? What about BACON?

Bacon lovers beware – your favorite breakfast meat is getting more expensive, and local restaurants are feeling the heat.

Specifically, pork bacon prices in May were up 5.7% from April and 18% from May of the previous year

Democrats just need to run on Bacon Prices. LOL.

Trump is doing a horrible job. The world is on fire and it's actually due to his decisions. Wake up you loyal pup.

Bacon is up but pork is down. Just got some butts for under $2/lb yesterday at Walmart. (Smithfield to be more precise)

Ribs same price.

I'm NOT going to say that Trump is doing a bad job. He has had an extremely aggressive agenda and is accomplishing a LOT of it faster than I would have thought possible.
So fast that the Democrats were caught flat footed and replied to nothing. (As if opposition politics are good for America....they aren't. They destroy America)

Joe did a few good things....maybe. dunno if he really did them or not.

And with the current ACCURATE polling the vast majority of America is tickled pink with what Trump has been doing (or not done) despite the Democrat tears.

So....
If the Democrats would just stop rioting, looting, or setting their cities on fire....maybe they could come up with an original idea of actually helping America grow stronger and better instead of mentally unbalanced, weaker, sicker, and stoned out of their minds on recreational chemicals.

 

[sealybobo]

Bacon is up but pork is down. Just got some butts for under $2/lb yesterday at Walmart. (Smithfield to be more precise)

Ribs same price.

I'm NOT going to say that Trump is doing a bad job. He has had an extremely aggressive agenda and is accomplishing a LOT of it faster than I would have thought possible.
So fast that the Democrats were caught flat footed and replied to nothing. (As if opposition politics are good for America....they aren't. They destroy America)

Joe did a few good things....maybe. dunno if he really did them or not.

And with the current ACCURATE polling the vast majority of America is tickled pink with what Trump has been doing (or not done) despite the Democrat tears.

So....
If the Democrats would just stop rioting, looting, or setting their cities on fire....maybe they could come up with an original idea of actually helping America grow stronger and better instead of mentally unbalanced, weaker, sicker, and stoned out of their minds on recreational chemicals.

What polls are you seeing?

• Trump approval numbers matching second-term lows
• Strong opposition to U.S. military intervention in the Israel-Iran conflict
• How anti-ICE protests are splitting the country
• Negative and declining opinion of Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and his actions

Opinion about Donald Trump​

• 41% of Americans strongly or somewhat approve of the job Donald Trump is doing as president — matching Trump's second-term low for share of Americans approving of his job performance. 54% disapprove, matching his second-term high
  • The last time this many Americans disapproved of Trump's job performance was the April 19 - 22 Economist / YouGov Poll
• Trump's net approval of -13 also matches his low for the term

 

[JohnDB]

For Trump, a military conflict with Iran would distract from:
-Sinking poll numbers
-A devastating (and unpopular) budget bill
-Harmful trade wars
-Unleashing the military on American soil
-Millions of people protesting his authoritarianism

And one thing he had to take back was when he

Trump reverses brief reprieve for immigrants he said are 'good, long time workers'​

The Trump administration has reopened arrests of immigrant workers at hotels, restaurants and agricultural businesses, backtracking on the brief reprieve they got after President Donald Trump stated they were necessary, good, longtime workers whose jobs were almost "impossible" to replace.

I don't care what he says. ICE ain't going after illegals in red states that work on farms, hotels and restaurants. Of course publicly he had to take that back because guys like Correll lost their shit. I haven't heard from correll since. I mean 3 major let downs. The spending, not going after illegals in red states and now lying us into Iraq.

Yea, things are going great you fucktard.

Are you currently using recreational chemicals?
Because you and reality seem very far apart at the moment. Nothing you have said is true....except for ICE not NEEDING TO GO INTO RED STATES AS THEY HAVE DEPORTED THE ALIENS THEMSELVES.

Squeaking wheels....tallest nails get pounded.

Maybe you should cut back a bit there bud.

 

[sealybobo]

Bacon is up but pork is down. Just got some butts for under $2/lb yesterday at Walmart. (Smithfield to be more precise)

Ribs same price.

I'm NOT going to say that Trump is doing a bad job. He has had an extremely aggressive agenda and is accomplishing a LOT of it faster than I would have thought possible.
So fast that the Democrats were caught flat footed and replied to nothing. (As if opposition politics are good for America....they aren't. They destroy America)

Joe did a few good things....maybe. dunno if he really did them or not.

And with the current ACCURATE polling the vast majority of America is tickled pink with what Trump has been doing (or not done) despite the Democrat tears.

So....
If the Democrats would just stop rioting, looting, or setting their cities on fire....maybe they could come up with an original idea of actually helping America grow stronger and better instead of mentally unbalanced, weaker, sicker, and stoned out of their minds on recreational chemicals.

Bacon up, pork down? I'll see you and raise you a gas prices are up. And it's absolutely because of what Trump and Israel are doing in Iran.

Trump said the world was on fire last year. This year he's setting it on fire.

Trump said countries wouldn't **** around on his watch. That Russia wouldn't have invaded Ukraine if he was POTUS. We now know that's a joke. Putin doesn't give a **** what TACO says.

Consider this. Israel wouldn't have bombed Iran if Kamala was POTUS

 

[JohnDB]

Bacon up, pork down? I'll see you and raise you a gas prices are up. And it's absolutely because of what Trump and Israel are doing in Iran.

Trump said the world was on fire last year. This year he's setting it on fire.

Trump said countries wouldn't **** around on his watch. That Russia wouldn't have invaded Ukraine if he was POTUS. We now know that's a joke. Putin doesn't give a **** what TACO says.

Consider this. Israel wouldn't have bombed Iran if Kamala was POTUS

Ummmm
It went up $0.10 for a week.
Back to normal. Just filled up yesterday. Under $3/gallon.

Not complaining.
It went over $3/gallon with Biden.

Just saying....I'm not a mushroom. You can't keep me in the dark and feed me manure. Maybe you should cut back on the recreational chemicals.

 

[HaShev]

What bullshit! Utter. Funny you guys who don't believe the lyin media and politicians, believe the lyin media and politicians. It's so ******* obvious Trump's trying to lie us into this war.

Bibi has been saying Iran is 6 months away from a nuke for 30 years. Wake up!

I always knew that the wmd claim was legit and it was validated when Obama asked Syria to remove them, the cover up when pointed out was obvious. DEMS ALWAYS double down on the lie narrative to protect that narrative. It's in their rules for radicals handbook to do so.

 

[sealybobo]

Ummmm
It went up $0.10 for a week.
Back to normal. Just filled up yesterday. Under $3/gallon.

Not complaining.
It went over $3/gallon with Biden.

Just saying....I'm not a mushroom. You can't keep me in the dark and feed me manure. Maybe you should cut back on the recreational chemicals.

You're a joke. Just like Trump 1.0, he barely did any better than Obama did and was it worth it? He had to give massive tax breaks away to get the same GDP numbers.

You must be loyal to be turning a blind eye to all the bad stuff he's doing. The spending in that BBB, Iran, sending troops to LA (ridiculous) and turning a blind eye to illegals in red stats "so long as they work on a farm, hotel, restaurant or GOLF COURSE.

And you clearly hold Democrats to a much higher standard. Remember last year you voted for Trump over Biden because you thought he'd do a better job with the economy? What a sucker you were huh?

Americans’ Wages Are Higher Than They Have Ever Been, and Employment Is Near Its All-Time High​

After adjusting for inflation, wages are higher than at any point in U.S. history, and after adjusting for age and sex, the percentage of the population that is employed is around its peak in U.S. history.

This is from October 2024. You have your head buried in the sand or up Trump's ass.

In fact, economic growth has outpaced projections that were made before the COVID-19 pandemic. In other words, the economy in 2024 is stronger than experts had predicted it would be in 2024 before COVID-19 even happened. And it is stronger now than it was projected to be by 2024 at the beginning of the Biden-Harris administration.

And yet Trump said Biden handed him a mess.

I'll just write you off as loyal to a fault.

 

[Rigby5]

1. The US can give Israel "bunker buster" bombs to kill the nuclear program.
2. Israel can also bomb the oil infrastructure to hurt Iran's revenue.
3. I hope Iran figures out that replacing the Ayatollah with a Pahlavi is in their best long term interest.

Wrong.

1. The largest plane Israel has is an F-15.
Nothing it has can carry or deliver a "bunker buster".

2. Israel is vastly more vulnerable, since if Iran's oil is attacked, Iran can retaliate on population centers and it is a very small and easy to hit target.

3. Attacking Iran not only is illegal, but after what we did to Iran in 1953, attacking Iran greatly strengthens the support for the Ayatollah.