Iowa Reaches Milestone on Wind-Energy Production - 64%

[elektra]

This farmland is destroyed, millions of tiny shards of fiberglass forever on the land. Nobody ckeaning it up. They also leak oil onto the farmland.

Iowa farmer regrets signing wind turbine lease after both turbines on her land burned to the ground

A couple of hours before the final BOS vote on the WECS on Wednesday, May 29, we received an email from a concerned lady in Iowa who has – well, had – two wind turbines on their farm and asked us to share their story. One turbine is still there, but

www.wind-watch.org

She also said the turbines have had one problem after another. Even the technicians complained about having to continually work on them. One of the biggest problems was the constant leaking of oil into the fields. Oil, as you probably know, is insoluble in water, so rain will not the dilute the oil. It will just keep getting pushed farther and farther into the ground until it eventually ends up in the aquifer, where it will contaminate rural wells with industrial machine oil.

 

[Crick]

This farmland is destroyed, millions of tiny shards of fiberglass forever on the land. Nobody ckeaning it up. They also leak oil onto the farmland.

So do trucks, tractors, combines, harvesters and every other piece of motorized farm equipment. And if a turbine leaks oil, you know where it is. Not so with moving equipment.

 

[elektra]

So do trucks, tractors, combines, harvesters and every other piece of motorized farm equipment. And if a turbine leaks oil, you know where it is. Not so with moving equipment.

No they dont

 

[Crick]

No they dont

Please explain

 

[abu afak]

This farmland is destroyed, millions of tiny shards of fiberglass forever on the land. Nobody ckeaning it up. They also leak oil onto the farmland.

Iowa farmer regrets signing wind turbine lease after both turbines on her land burned to the ground

A couple of hours before the final BOS vote on the WECS on Wednesday, May 29, we received an email from a concerned lady in Iowa who has – well, had – two wind turbines on their farm and asked us to share their story. One turbine is still there, but

www.wind-watch.org

She also said the turbines have had one problem after another. Even the technicians complained about having to continually work on them. One of the biggest problems was the constant leaking of oil into the fields. Oil, as you probably know, is insoluble in water, so rain will not the dilute the oil. It will just keep getting pushed farther and farther into the ground until it eventually ends up in the aquifer, where it will contaminate rural wells with industrial machine oil.

Debate by anecdote... Fallacy.
Um... Iowa didn't get to 64% because wind wasn't working.

More common is this, the state's newest Cash Crop.. for Every farmer.

"...Evie Haupt, 75, has three of them working the land year-round on her 160-acre farm in Central Iowa. She says the turbines bring in about $35,000 per year, which increases each year with inflation.

For struggling farmers, that's made the difference between keeping the family farm and losing it as agriculture becomes more unstable due to climate change. Each turbine takes up less than an acre, leaving plenty of farmable land left.

Haupt says the money generated by the wind turbines has helped her chip away at $350,000 in farm debts left over after the death of her husband a decade ago, bringing down the total debt to $67,000."..."

An Iowa farmer had $350,000 in debt. Wind turbines are helping her get out.

Over 6,000 wind turbines produce about 60% of Iowa's energy. They also help struggling farmers offset losses.

www.cbsnews.com

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[elektra]

Please explain

We owned a farmall tractor, never leaked a drop. The Ford tractors we used in the orchard, leaked no oil. The combine to harvest corn had no leaks.

You should quit fighting every post that states the problems of wind turbines. You cant win against facts

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Debate by anecdote... Fallacy.
Um... Iowa didn't get to 64% because wind wasn't working.

More common is this, the state's newest Cash Crop.. for Every farmer.

"...Evie Haupt, 75, has three of them working the land year-round on her 160-acre farm in Central Iowa. She says the turbines bring in about $35,000 per year, which increases each year with inflation.

For struggling farmers, that's made the difference between keeping the family farm and losing it as agriculture becomes more unstable due to climate change. Each turbine takes up less than an acre, leaving plenty of farmable land left.

Haupt says the money generated by the wind turbines has helped her chip away at $350,000 in farm debts left over after the death of her husband a decade ago, bringing down the total debt to $67,000."..."

An Iowa farmer had $350,000 in debt. Wind turbines are helping her get out.

Over 6,000 wind turbines produce about 60% of Iowa's energy. They also help struggling farmers offset losses.

www.cbsnews.com

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Um... Iowa didn't get to 64% because wind wasn't working.

They got to 64% thanks to massive federal subsidies.

 

[Crick]

We owned a farmall tractor, never leaked a drop. The Ford tractors we used in the orchard, leaked no oil. The combine to harvest corn had no leaks.

You should quit fighting every post that states the problems of wind turbines. You cant win against facts

You believe your personal experience is proof that NO farm equipment ever leaks oil?

 

[elektra]

You believe your personal experience is proof that NO farm equipment ever leaks oil?

My personal experience is vast.
You believe two wrongs make a right

 

[Crick]

My personal experience is vast.
You believe two wrongs make a right

Vast? Hardly. No one has ever made an ICE that never leaks and your claim is absurd on its face.

 

[elektra]

Vast? Hardly. No one has ever made an ICE that never leaks and your claim is absurd on its face.

Take care crick. I am done with our little fued.

Tractors leak oil so you think it is okay to dump a hundred gallons of oil on top of the drop of oil from the tractor

 

[Crick]

Take care crick. I am done with our little fued.

Tractors leak oil so you think it is okay to dump a hundred gallons of oil on top of the drop of oil from the tractor

Leaking oil onto the ground anywhere is bad, but pretending that farm equipment doesn't leak it is ridiculous. Every effort should be made that neither farm equipment nor wind turbine generators leak oil, but I guarantee it is a great deal simpler to contain leakage from a fixed installation already sitting on an enormous block of concrete than it is from an ICE-powered machine with dozens and dozens of potential leak sites, vibrating like mad, going through large, irregular temperature cycles, with massive pressure oscillations, driving all over creation and with no containment whatsoever.

 

[elektra]

Leaking oil onto the ground anywhere is bad, but pretending that farm equipment doesn't leak it is ridiculous. Every effort should be made that neither farm equipment nor wind turbine generators leak oil do not leak, but I guarantee it is a great deal simpler to contain leakage from a fixed installation already sitting on an enormous block of concrete than it is from an ICE-powered machine with dozens and dozens of potential leak sites, vibrating like mad, going through large, irregular temperature cycles, with massive pressure oscillations, driving all over creation and with no containment whatsoever.

Wind turbines leak everywhere they are installed. It is known problem. I made a thread about it years ago. So why were these installed when they knew they would leak

 

[Crick]

Wind turbines leak everywhere they are installed. It is known problem. I made a thread about it years ago. So why were these installed when they knew they would leak

Is there something about wind turbines that guarantees leakage?

 

[elektra]

Is there something about wind turbines that guarantees leakage?

Yes, the extreme force put on the nacelle/bearing assembly. Hiw much force you think that is, 30 ton blades spinning at a hundred miles a hour. 90 ft long, exerting a tremendous amount of force. Kind of like a torque wrench

 

[Crick]

Yes, the extreme force put on the nacelle/bearing assembly. Hiw much force you think that is, 30 ton blades spinning at a hundred miles a hour. 90 ft long, exerting a tremendous amount of force. Kind of like a torque wrench

Look at the forces on the propellor shaft of a trident submarine running at all ahead flank at test depth and then going immediately to back emergency. No oil leaks out. No water leaks in. Bearing seals ain't rocket science.

 

[abu afak]

Monday, July 17, 2023​

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[b]Sixty-four percent of Iowa's energy production now comes from wind - a new record for the state[/b] , according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration. Green-energy advocates call it a big step along the road to fossil-fuel independence.​

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Iowa has been a wind-energy leader for decades, but the Iowa Environmental Council Staff Attorney Michael Schmidt said the IEC has a goal of becoming fossil-fuel independent by 2035.​

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"The energy mix in Iowa has shifted from being dominated more by coal with some natural gas," said Schmidt, "to being dominated by wind with a much smaller fraction of coal and natural gas."​

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The IEC contends that wind is the Least Expensive source of energy generation, even without considering tax credits or subsidies, and says it is dramatically lower than the costs of coal - especially when accounting for factors such as human health and crop damage from fossil fuel-based energy production.​

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Iowa Reaches Milestone on Wind-Energy Production

Sixty-four percent of Iowa's energy production now comes from wind - a new record for the state, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration. Green-energy advocates call it a big step along the road to fossil-fuel independence. ...

www.publicnewsservice.org

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What are your alternatives? No one has come up with a viable substitute yet.

 

[abu afak]

An easy claim to make for a state that imports energy and produces a very tiny amount of energy.

Abuafuk's ideas are all proven false. We can simply look at how the government gives 60% of the cost to all solar and wind projects/corporations and how the corporations then give part of our money back as campaign donations.

Aba fuc can not show us anywhere in the USA where the price of electricity has gone down.

Traditional sources of electricity cost 30$ per mwh, green energy costs, $200 per mwh.


Anything different is only temporary government policy dictating the price.

 

[elektra]

Fucked up your reply, aba dabba do

 

[abu afak]

You have no idea of the cost.
Abu only offers a long rant that is nothing more than a contradiction based on abu's imagination.

Abu, a fossil fuel plant lasts over 80 years. Wind turbines maybe 10 years.

Abu you are clueless

Love the elektra who - OOOPS - NOW agrees 100% with THIS thread, even though all his friends say the Opposite.. as he has for a Decade.
His Link

Surge in U.S. Solar Company Bankruptcies, Despite Trillions in Subsidies​

Solar power got cheap. So why aren’t we using it more?

"Many of us might assume that the reason so much energy still comes from gas and coal power plants is simple economics: those fuels are cheaper. But though it was once true, that assumption has actually been Obliterated by a recent Decline in Solar and Wind Costs over the past Decade.

When it comes to the Cost of energy from New power plants, Onshore Wind and Solar are now the Cheapest sources—costing Less than as, Geothermal, Coal, or Nuclear..."""
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THANKS! YOU LOST.
AND THANKS FOR THE NEW SIG!
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