Income inequality is fine by me.

[zeke]

Nobody s saying take money from the wealthy and give it to me. That is just rightwing fear mongering

But there is a massive inequity in wealth in this country. Why do we continue policies that encourage more wealth to be accumulated at the highest levels while the average worker struggles

That is not class envy, that is common sense

The human animal didn't get where he is today without having the need to compete and win against other humans. It's in our genetic code.
That's why those who are driven to succeed, for whatever reason/s will always and forever look down on those less able, for whatever reason/s to compete and win.
All this LIB bullshit about 'everyone deserves the same size trophy' is simply a way of saying: "Yes we were not all created equal in the real world but lets pretend we were and in order to keep the farce going we'll need to level out the playing field and so we'll need to have more and more money from the 'Makers" to give to the 'Takers."
It's all a load of Socialist BS and that's the reason the theory only works on paper never in reality.
Like M. Thatcher said: "Socialism works great until you run out of other people's money".

Ah cool, quotes. "We hold these truths to be self evident, that ALL men are created EQUAL".

Who said that? And why?

 

[zeke]

Maybe you right winger nut jobs think that if the ultra wealthy controlled 95% of the nations wealth and income that the country would be in great shape.

I mean, if the ultra wealthy controlling what they do is a good thing (and you rethugs are saying that it is) then the ultra wealthy controlling virtually all the countries wealth and income would be even better.

Is that a correct thought or not? From a rethugs POV.

 

[rightwinger]

Nobody s saying take money from the wealthy and give it to me. That is just rightwing fear mongering

But there is a massive inequity in wealth in this country. Why do we continue policies that encourage more wealth to be accumulated at the highest levels while the average worker struggles

That is not class envy, that is common sense

The human animal didn't get where he is today without having the need to compete and win against other humans. It's in our genetic code.
That's why those who are driven to succeed, for whatever reason/s will always and forever look down on those less able, for whatever reason/s to compete and win.
All this LIB bullshit about 'everyone deserves the same size trophy' is simply a way of saying: "Yes we were not all created equal in the real world but lets pretend we were and in order to keep the farce going we'll need to level out the playing field and so we'll need to have more and more money from the 'Makers" to give to the 'Takers."
It's all a load of Socialist BS and that's the reason the theory only works on paper never in reality.
Like M. Thatcher said: "Socialism works great until you run out of other people's money".

And the morons come right back with the propaganda...Nobody is saying everyone deserves the same sized trophy......NOBODY

But why do we continue government policies that encourage more trophies to go to those who already have a warehouse of trophies?

 

[alan1]

You guys are all retards, seriously.

Its not that a burger flipper wants to make the same as a CEO.

Its not that people dont want to work hard to advance and earn their money.

You are being pig headed about the issue.

The issue is that 400 people own 40% of wealth, that is a very unstable system.

The issue is that corporate profits are at all time highs, while since the 70s CEO pay has grown 300% to an accountant/officer/machinist/small business owners earnings have only gone up 23%.

As a percent, they should have grown the same. The same %, dummies, not the same dollar amount.

So 300% more for doing the same job versus 23% more for doing the SAME JOB.

ceos didnt become super heros and regular joe store managers became lazy and retarded.

No.

Something else is going on, and youre a dumbfuck for buying into the "theyre jealous....lazy...dont wanna work for it..." lines.

THEY are YOU. THICK FUCKS.

Is the CEO doing the same job he was doing he was doing in the 70's?

Let's take WalMart as an example.
In 1970 Walmart employed 1500 people. Today, Walmart employs 1.4 million people. That means the CEO is now responsible 9333% more people.
I'd hardly call that the same job.

Since we are talking about Walmart, The new CEO of Walmart started his employment with the company as a part time seasonal warehouse worker.

 

[rightwinger]

You guys are all retards, seriously.

Its not that a burger flipper wants to make the same as a CEO.

Its not that people dont want to work hard to advance and earn their money.

You are being pig headed about the issue.

The issue is that 400 people own 40% of wealth, that is a very unstable system.

The issue is that corporate profits are at all time highs, while since the 70s CEO pay has grown 300% to an accountant/officer/machinist/small business owners earnings have only gone up 23%.

As a percent, they should have grown the same. The same %, dummies, not the same dollar amount.

So 300% more for doing the same job versus 23% more for doing the SAME JOB.

ceos didnt become super heros and regular joe store managers became lazy and retarded.

No.

Something else is going on, and youre a dumbfuck for buying into the "theyre jealous....lazy...dont wanna work for it..." lines.

THEY are YOU. THICK FUCKS.

Is the CEO doing the same job he was doing he was doing in the 70's?

Let's take WalMart as an example.
In 1970 Walmart employed 1500 people. Today, Walmart employs 1.4 million people. That means the CEO is now responsible 9333% more people.
I'd hardly call that the same job.

Since we are talking about Walmart, The new CEO of Walmart started his employment with the company as a part time seasonal warehouse worker.

Do you really want to compare CEO salaries in the 70s to CEO salaries today?

What do CEOs do today that warrants such a massive increase in compensation? Why do American CEOs receive so much more compensation than foreign CEOs? American CEOs are losing global market share, why are they paid more?

 

[driveby]

You guys are all retards, seriously.

Its not that a burger flipper wants to make the same as a CEO.

Its not that people dont want to work hard to advance and earn their money.

You are being pig headed about the issue.

The issue is that 400 people own 40% of wealth, that is a very unstable system.

The issue is that corporate profits are at all time highs, while since the 70s CEO pay has grown 300% to an accountant/officer/machinist/small business owners earnings have only gone up 23%.

As a percent, they should have grown the same. The same %, dummies, not the same dollar amount.

So 300% more for doing the same job versus 23% more for doing the SAME JOB.

ceos didnt become super heros and regular joe store managers became lazy and retarded.

No.

Something else is going on, and youre a dumbfuck for buying into the "theyre jealous....lazy...dont wanna work for it..." lines.

THEY are YOU. THICK FUCKS.

Why should the CEO's and everyone else's wages have gone up by the same percentage? Please dazzle us with your brilliance instead of your usual incoherent babble....

 

[FJO]

I think you miss the point......income inequality is not a redistribution of wealth like the rightwing propaganda machine constantly spouts, but a redistribution of opportunity.
In your analogy it is not setting aside the higher grades for the privileged few

In a nutshell, giving a selected few of the students the answers in advance

Just like the Korean immigrant, fresh off the boat/plane was given more opportunity than those fifth generation inner city residents, so he can open and run a grocery store, working a measly 18-20 hours a day and tells his kids to learn, do the home work instead midnight basketball.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

You guys are all retards, seriously.

Its not that a burger flipper wants to make the same as a CEO.

Its not that people dont want to work hard to advance and earn their money.

You are being pig headed about the issue.

The issue is that 400 people own 40% of wealth, that is a very unstable system.

The issue is that corporate profits are at all time highs, while since the 70s CEO pay has grown 300% to an accountant/officer/machinist/small business owners earnings have only gone up 23%.

As a percent, they should have grown the same. The same %, dummies, not the same dollar amount.

So 300% more for doing the same job versus 23% more for doing the SAME JOB.

ceos didnt become super heros and regular joe store managers became lazy and retarded.

No.

Something else is going on, and youre a dumbfuck for buying into the "theyre jealous....lazy...dont wanna work for it..." lines.

THEY are YOU. THICK FUCKS.

Is the CEO doing the same job he was doing he was doing in the 70's?

Let's take WalMart as an example.
In 1970 Walmart employed 1500 people. Today, Walmart employs 1.4 million people. That means the CEO is now responsible 9333% more people.
I'd hardly call that the same job.

Since we are talking about Walmart, The new CEO of Walmart started his employment with the company as a part time seasonal warehouse worker.

Do you really want to compare CEO salaries in the 70s to CEO salaries today?

What do CEOs do today that warrants such a massive increase in compensation? Why do American CEOs receive so much more compensation than foreign CEOs? American CEOs are losing global market share, why are they paid more?

Because that is the compensation agreement they worked out and honestly it's none of your damn business.

 

[alan1]

You guys are all retards, seriously.

Its not that a burger flipper wants to make the same as a CEO.

Its not that people dont want to work hard to advance and earn their money.

You are being pig headed about the issue.

The issue is that 400 people own 40% of wealth, that is a very unstable system.

The issue is that corporate profits are at all time highs, while since the 70s CEO pay has grown 300% to an accountant/officer/machinist/small business owners earnings have only gone up 23%.

As a percent, they should have grown the same. The same %, dummies, not the same dollar amount.

So 300% more for doing the same job versus 23% more for doing the SAME JOB.

ceos didnt become super heros and regular joe store managers became lazy and retarded.

No.

Something else is going on, and youre a dumbfuck for buying into the "theyre jealous....lazy...dont wanna work for it..." lines.

THEY are YOU. THICK FUCKS.

Is the CEO doing the same job he was doing he was doing in the 70's?

Let's take WalMart as an example.
In 1970 Walmart employed 1500 people. Today, Walmart employs 1.4 million people. That means the CEO is now responsible 9333% more people.
I'd hardly call that the same job.

Since we are talking about Walmart, The new CEO of Walmart started his employment with the company as a part time seasonal warehouse worker.

Do you really want to compare CEO salaries in the 70s to CEO salaries today?

What do CEOs do today that warrants such a massive increase in compensation? Why do American CEOs receive so much more compensation than foreign CEOs? American CEOs are losing global market share, why are they paid more?

Actually, it was the post that I quoted that listed the comparison of 300% increase in salary. I merely pointed out the 9000%+ increase in ultimate responsibility. I would expect the pay to increase for the CEO. Now then, has the ultimate responsibility of the Walmart cashier, warehouse worker, shelf stocker, sales floor staff, etc also increased by 9000%? I'm betting that the answer to that question is no.

 

[Vox]

The economy is not a zero-sum game. Just because I make a decent amount of money by working my ass off it doesn't mean that someone else has to have less. Anyone else can do the same as I have, and that is reading and practicing in my industry so that I can do the best job possible for my customers. For that, I earn as much in a few hours as many other people do in an entire week.
To think that I should give up some of my income to give to some lazy asshole who doesn't know enough to read his own name on a piece of paper and doesn't care enough to get himself out of bed and try to make a living is sheer idiocy.

There is a big difference between making a "decent" amount of money and a plutocrat..

You might make 100k a year. Sounds like, and is, good money.

It is chump change to an ultra rich plutocrat.

When you have 500 million in the bank and make at least 25 million a year, then consider yourself plutocrat material. If that's where you want to go.

But I fucking guarantee you that you will never, ever if you live to be 100 make 25 million dollars a year. No matter what you do.

So quit worrying about those ultra rich people. They sure ain't worried about you.

and who the heck are YOU to decide how much money anybody should make?

it's none of your damn business, greedy commie

 

[Vox]

If the wealthy make rules to benefit themselves only and not allow anyone else to become wealthy, then no one would become wealthy. We know that's not true. For some reason immigrants can come here, not even knowing the language, and become very wealthy.

The rich won't let me, is the mark of someone without ambition, motivation or even interest in bettering their own lives. It's like the losing football team claiming that their inability to score is the fault of the opposing team not letting them get a touchdown. It's an excuse for their own failure.

A poor immigrant can become wealthy through hard work but what are the odds? One in how many thousands? And the ones that made it - are we sure they did it throught just hard work? I have an immigrant brother in law that went from crummy jobs to being a multimillionaire in 30 years. He would also sell his own mother into slavery if it improved his bottom line. Still owes me $1500 dollars from when he was poor, but he won't pay me out of principle. This is not atypical of those of wealthy means, including those that inherited wealth

odds are almost 100%.

 

[Vox]

A poor immigrant can become wealthy through hard work but what are the odds? One in how many thousands? And the ones that made it - are we sure they did it throught just hard work?

More often than not, the reason immigrants get ahead in this country is because the government bends over backwards for them with all kinds of grants and other crap that our own citizens don't get.

a shitload of crap. immigrants get ahead exactly because of the roadblocks on their way - they are not getting ANYTHING and are getting ahead only because they are relying on themselves.

the ones stuck with anchor babies and government support NEVER get off poverty.same as with all those who get all kind of possible support just for the virtue of being born in the US.
But they are not your typical immigrant, which gets ahead exactly because nobody is helping, at the very least nobody is preventing the moving ahead.

 

[Vox]

Some prices goods and services have increased some have decreased considerably.
The essentials have increased, some due to the elevation in global energy demand some due to Directors and CEOs needing to maintain their post DOT COM lifestyles.

This has NOTHING to do with shrinking opportunity.

Shrinking opportunity has EVERYTHING to do with the failed policies of the last 5 years.

You want opportunity with an unemployment of over 7% and GDP growth less than 2%?


you have to be kidding

If you want an opportunity - you need GDP growth at least 4% and unemployment not more than 5% - then one will have opportunity.

But keep spending like drunken sailor and over-regulate and overtax the very segment which is actually producing and creating - and you will have even more misery in the next 3 years.

Oh, and impose death sentences a.k.a. obamacare and dodd-frank on citizens and small businesses - the exact recipe for disaster.

and then whine about CEOs and minimum wage laws - to stop growth and job creation even more.

Stop whining. You have not answer the point of "A review of the criteria demonstrates this is an inaccurate low-value rating. It is probably 25 to 30% under represented."

it is YOU, leftards who are whining constantly in your envy for others people money.
you are not getting it - deal with it

 

[Vox]

Never discuss anything serious with a person who you know has set out NOT to understand the issue at hand.

WEALTH maldistribution is something that no right winger will ever acknowledge because if they do they'll lose the support of the Masters.

Well to be fair, most of these folks really are NOT quite smart enough to realize that every dollar is in a constant tug of war competition with every other dollar to own the wealth of the world.

thank you for demonstrating well that you are not smart enough, as all leftards are

 

[driveby]

Dear Marxists,

The more you assholes ask for and get more government intrusion, the more the income inequality gaps widens.

Sincerely,

A non brainwashed citizen

 

[SwimExpert]

a shitload of crap. immigrants get ahead exactly because of the roadblocks on their way - they are not getting ANYTHING and are getting ahead only because they are relying on themselves.

the ones stuck with anchor babies and government support NEVER get off poverty.same as with all those who get all kind of possible support just for the virtue of being born in the US.
But they are not your typical immigrant, which gets ahead exactly because nobody is helping, at the very least nobody is preventing the moving ahead.

Back to the USPAACC. Who pays for them? We all do. Aside from the numerous government agencies they name, they have plenty of corporate sponsors too. Lockheed Martin, Frito Lays, Dallas/Fort Worth Airport, Verizon, it just goes on and on. It’s one thing for Businesses to give to the Community but it’s discrimination to set aside business opportunities and/or funding for minorities because they’re “minorities”. Minorities have done nothing for America except be non-white and/or female and that’s just not a contribution worthy of any “recognition” or the “Supplier Diversity Program” these companies have set up for them.

If you’re not concerned by now, perhaps this, coming from the Office of Refugee Resettlement will concern you: “Microenterprise Development Program assists refugees to become financially independent by helping them develop capital resources and business expertise to start, expands, or strengthens their own business. The program provides training and technical assistance in business plan development, management, bookkeeping, and marketing to equip refugees with the skills they need to become successful entrepreneurs. In FY 2011, there are 18 grantees in 15 states that receive grants totaling $4.0 million.” “The targeted refugee population for these programs may include refugees who receive public assistance or subsidies, and/or who lack the financial resources, credit history, or personal assets to qualify for business loans or assistance through commercial institutions. Refugees who are not yet citizens may participate in the Microenterprise Development Program regardless of their date of arrival in the U.S.” [11]


How Asian immigrants get preferential treatment when starting a business

 

[rightwinger]

I think you miss the point......income inequality is not a redistribution of wealth like the rightwing propaganda machine constantly spouts, but a redistribution of opportunity.
In your analogy it is not setting aside the higher grades for the privileged few

In a nutshell, giving a selected few of the students the answers in advance

Just like the Korean immigrant, fresh off the boat/plane was given more opportunity than those fifth generation inner city residents, so he can open and run a grocery store, working a measly 18-20 hours a day and tells his kids to learn, do the home work instead midnight basketball.

We are not talking about someone running the local quicky mart...we are talking about the mega wealthy who have their congressmen on speed dial. The ones who wrote out tax codes. You know, the ones who make the rules and then gloat that they have won the game

 

[rightwinger]

Is the CEO doing the same job he was doing he was doing in the 70's?

Let's take WalMart as an example.
In 1970 Walmart employed 1500 people. Today, Walmart employs 1.4 million people. That means the CEO is now responsible 9333% more people.
I'd hardly call that the same job.

Since we are talking about Walmart, The new CEO of Walmart started his employment with the company as a part time seasonal warehouse worker.

Do you really want to compare CEO salaries in the 70s to CEO salaries today?

What do CEOs do today that warrants such a massive increase in compensation? Why do American CEOs receive so much more compensation than foreign CEOs? American CEOs are losing global market share, why are they paid more?

Because that is the compensation agreement they worked out and honestly it's none of your damn business.

It's your thread gramps

You raised the issue of those who receive A's. Why can't we talk about CEOs?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Do you really want to compare CEO salaries in the 70s to CEO salaries today?

What do CEOs do today that warrants such a massive increase in compensation? Why do American CEOs receive so much more compensation than foreign CEOs? American CEOs are losing global market share, why are they paid more?

Because that is the compensation agreement they worked out and honestly it's none of your damn business.

It's your thread gramps

You raised the issue of those who receive A's. Why can't we talk about CEOs?

I put a nail in a bogus issue I didn't target anyone's salary as that is private. I thought you lefties championed privacy?

 

[rightwinger]

Because that is the compensation agreement they worked out and honestly it's none of your damn business.

It's your thread gramps

You raised the issue of those who receive A's. Why can't we talk about CEOs?

I put a nail in a bogus issue I didn't target anyone's salary as that is private. I thought you lefties championed privacy?

I don't see where I identified the salary that anyone makes

Now, about those CEOs. The CEO is the one who demands that everyone bite the bullet in hard times. Work harder, make sacrifices, make do with less

Yet in hard times the CEO and major executives get more money. That is how they get the A's