Incels.

[XponentialChaos]

It doesn't. I clearly brought it up in relation to your side's odd hostility..


Oh, wait, you were just talking shith there, so you could say "incel" again, and again try to make this into a personal thing.


I will take that from you as an admission that yes, that is what this is about. You people are operating from an Intersectional Identity Politics framework and thus, a group of supposedly "white" males, daring to speak out against women,


is taboo and you are deeply offended.

Not sure why you brought it up in response to you incels being overly sensitive.

You were saying something about poor communication skills?

 

[Likkmee]

Probably has a blow-up doll.

Or he was a real....motherfucker.

 

[Correll]

Not sure why you brought it up in response to you incels being overly sensitive.

You were saying something about poor communication skills?

It was what we were talking about. Wow. You really, are utterly dishonest.

 

[XponentialChaos]

It was what we were talking about. Wow. You really, are utterly dishonest.

Nah, you incels are just overly sensitive.

 

[Blues Man]

I can tell that you think you have a zinger there. I don't care. I think that you are a dick.


So, what was your point with your question? Was there a reason you asked it, or were you just going for your "zinger"?


Meanwhile my question stands.


Now, you answer mine. Question for you. If it were the "1950s" and the "incels" were thus more likely to have a better job than the women, do you think that "incels" would appear more desirable to potential mates?

Like I said it's not just the job of the man.

People in the 50's were more adept socially because they had to be.

People weren't locked in their homes watching TV 24/7 or playing video games 12 hours a day.

Young people were out in groups actually doing stuff together

Thiose social skills were far more important than jobs

 

[Correll]

Like I said it's not just the job of the man.

People in the 50's were more adept socially because they had to be.

People weren't locked in their homes watching TV 24/7 or playing video games 12 hours a day.

Young people were out in groups actually doing stuff together

Thiose social skills were far more important than jobs

No one is retarded enough to think that a complex issue like this comes down to ONE factor.

That I am talking about ONE factor, does not mean that I am saying it is the only factor.


The way you are so evasive over simple questions, reveal that you are opposed to this issue even being discussed, for some odd reason.


I think it is because, the very idea of a group of men, especially as you say, "white men" speaking out, voicing a complaint about women in general,


is taboo to you. Men, especially "white" men, don't have the status, in your worldview, to be allowed to speak such things, and need to be shouted down, marginalized, "cancelled" or what ever else can be done to silence them and punish them.

 

[Blues Man]

No one is retarded enough to think that a complex issue like this comes down to ONE factor.

That I am talking about ONE factor, does not mean that I am saying it is the only factor.


The way you are so evasive over simple questions, reveal that you are opposed to this issue even being discussed, for some odd reason.


I think it is because, the very idea of a group of men, especially as you say, "white men" speaking out, voicing a complaint about women in general,


is taboo to you. Men, especially "white" men, don't have the status, in your worldview, to be allowed to speak such things, and need to be shouted down, marginalized, "cancelled" or what ever else can be done to silence them and punish them.

and yet you constantly mention the job a man has

 

[Correll]

and yet you constantly mention the job a man has

Just tryihng to get you to focus on something concrete, to move the discussion forward. All you lefties seem to want to do, ridicule the incels, attack me, and dismiss the idea that they have any right to complain about anything.

That's not reasonable. Or rational.

 

[Blues Man]

Just tryihng to get you to focus on something concrete, to move the discussion forward. All you lefties seem to want to do, ridicule the incels, attack me, and dismiss the idea that they have any right to complain about anything.

That's not reasonable. Or rational.

So you singularly use jobs in your examples then you say it's more complex than just jobs.

Looks to me like you are oversimplifying

You say complaining I say whining.

When most of the stuff you "complain" about are things you can change you are whining

 

[Correll]

So you singularly use jobs in your examples then you say it's more complex than just jobs.

....

Nope. That is not what I said. Stop playing silly gotcha games. And then you built a point on top of that idiocy.

Pathetic.

 

[Blues Man]

Nope. That is not what I said. Stop playing silly gotcha games. And then you built a point on top of that idiocy.

Pathetic.

And yet the only thing you mentioned was jobs in multiple posts.

This issue ain't as complex as you like to think.

The root of it is socially inept boys who instead of actually getting out and improving their social skills hide from the real world in video games and online forums where the only thing that is encouraged is anger and misogyny.

 

[Correll]

And yet the only thing you mentioned was jobs in multiple posts.

Yep. And I have repeatedly explained why. So drop the stupid shit.

This issue ain't as complex as you like to think.

The root of it is socially inept boys who instead of actually getting out and improving their social skills hide from the real world in video games and online forums where the only thing that is encouraged is anger and misogyny.

It is clear that you don't know that, because you have never given the issue ANY thought. Your dismissal was clearly emotional in nature and based on irrational bigotry, rather than any consideration of the issue.

 

[Blues Man]

Yep. And I have repeatedly explained why. So drop the stupid shit.



It is clear that you don't know that, because you have never given the issue ANY thought. Your dismissal was clearly emotional in nature and based on irrational bigotry, rather than any consideration of the issue.

Bigotry huh?

All you want is sympathy for you and your "incel" friends. You refuse to admit that the reason you are socially inept with women has more to do with you than with women .

If you want sympathy look in the dictionary between shit and syphilis.

 

[Correll]

Bigotry huh?

Yep. Very clear in your emotional, and hostile response and in how difficult, nearly impossible it is to get you to even discuss the issue.

All you want is sympathy for you and your "incel" friends.

What YOU want is hostility for me and my "incel" friends. What I want is to know why. And now I think I do. Thanks to your input.

You refuse to admit that the reason you are socially inept with women has more to do with you than with women .

Well, not me per say. But yes. I refuse to just admit your emotional and bigoted assumption. And that little snide bit wher you once again pretended that this is a personal complaint from me? That was you showing that you are the one being an asshole here. Let's keep that in mind moving forward.

If you want sympathy look in the dictionary between shit and syphilis.

ANd some more assholeness from you for a finish. As I said, your position is one of irrational hostility based on bigotry.

 

[Blues Man]

Yep. Very clear in your emotional, and hostile response and in how difficult, nearly impossible it is to get you to even discuss the issue.




What YOU want is hostility for me and my "incel" friends. What I want is to know why. And now I think I do. Thanks to your input.




Well, not me per say. But yes. I refuse to just admit your emotional and bigoted assumption. And that little snide bit wher you once again pretended that this is a personal complaint from me? That was you showing that you are the one being an asshole here. Let's keep that in mind moving forward.



ANd some more assholeness from you for a finish. As I said, your position is one of irrational hostility based on bigotry.

So called incels are whiners who need to believe there is some sort of societal conspiracy concocted by women to deny them sex because they just can't believe that the root cause of their perceived problems are within themselves.

 

[Correll]

So called incels are whiners who need to believe there is some sort of societal conspiracy concocted by women to deny them sex because they just can't believe that the root cause of their perceived problems are within themselves.

Link to support that claim.

 

[Blues Man]

Link to support that claim.

How about you link to the conspiracy to deny "incels" sex?

“I hated every woman”: Former incels explain how their virginity evolved into rage

When Jonathan was 17, he moved to a new school and started vandalising the desks. Like many teenage boys, he was frustrated and hormonal – but unlike other...

www.shortlist.com

With no friends at school, Jonathan turned to the internet for comfort. Every day for four years he would visit Reddit’s r/Incels, a subreddit for involuntary celibates that was eventually banned in November 2017.

“The whole sub was made to make you hate women,” Jonathan tells me over Reddit’s direct messaging service. In the past, the subreddit had advocated rape and frequently referred to all women as “sluts”, with one poster even suggesting women should be “farmed” for “breeding”.

“It absolutely made me more misogynistic towards women,” says Jonathan now.

 

[Correll]

How about you link to the conspiracy to deny "incels" sex?

“I hated every woman”: Former incels explain how their virginity evolved into rage

When Jonathan was 17, he moved to a new school and started vandalising the desks. Like many teenage boys, he was frustrated and hormonal – but unlike other...

www.shortlist.com

With no friends at school, Jonathan turned to the internet for comfort. Every day for four years he would visit Reddit’s r/Incels, a subreddit for involuntary celibates that was eventually banned in November 2017.

“The whole sub was made to make you hate women,” Jonathan tells me over Reddit’s direct messaging service. In the past, the subreddit had advocated rape and frequently referred to all women as “sluts”, with one poster even suggesting women should be “farmed” for “breeding”.

“It absolutely made me more misogynistic towards women,” says Jonathan now.

thank you for the link. Very informative Pretty sad that we are on post 357 before someone posts some actual words from the people who we are discussing.

I was surprised by the drug information.


I read teh whole thing. There was no mention of any conspiracy.


Do you think that the rumors the girls spread about the one incel following them was false?

 

[Blues Man]

thank you for the link. Very informative Pretty sad that we are on post 357 before someone posts some actual words from the people who we are discussing.

I was surprised by the drug information.


I read teh whole thing. There was no mention of any conspiracy.


Do you think that the rumors the girls spread about the one incel following them was false?

It's your thread and you never posted any actual words from "incels"

And when you blame ALL women for the fact you don't get laid aren't you implying there's a conspiracy?

And tell me in what high school are there no false rumors about anyone?

 

[Correll]

It's your thread and you never posted any actual words from "incels"

Correct. As per my op. My intent was clear.

And when you blame ALL women for the fact you don't get laid aren't you implying there's a conspiracy?

Nope. NOthing about attributing group behavior to a group, implies that the group is purposefully coordinating their efforts.

And tell me in what high school are there no false rumors about anyone?

I would assume none. But one of the claims that you and/or xguy made, was that it is impossible for a group of men to have been wronged by a group of women. Or in this case, girls.

Spreading false rumors about someone they don't like, a very female form of aggression. That is a wrong done to that guy by a group of girls. That is an example that disproves one of your positions.