I’m so pissed. Military members’ paychecks will see $0.00 from the $130 million donation to the Pentagon!

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You should have checked the senate bill numbers.

The "Shutdown Fairness Act (S. 3012)" was introduced by Sen. Johnson (R) and blocked by the DEMs.

The "True Shutdown Fairness Act (S. 3039)" was instroduced by Sen. Van Hollen (D) and blocked by the GOP.

The "Military and Federal Employee Protection Act (S. 3043)" was introduced by Sen. Peters (D) and blocked by the GOP.
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The (R) plan would have paid those currently working (including the military), but not those furloughed. The (D) plans would have paid the military, working employees, and authorized pay for furloughed employees.

So the R's blocked military pay also. Now make an excuse for why it was OK for the R's to block military pay, but not OK for the D's.

Since I don't think there should be anyone working and being paid during a shut down - I don't have a dog in this fight.

And if you think I'm lying, remember I'm the one supplying a link and it references

WW
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Competing Bills to Pay Feds on Time Fail in Senate

The government shutdown continues while competing bills aimed at paying employees during the shutdown failed to garner enough votes to pass.

www.nteu.org

https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/congressional-record-index/119th-congress/1st-session/true-shutdown-fairness-act/1974773

https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/congressional-record-index/119th-congress/1st-session/military-and-federal-employee-protection-act/1974755

Your brain is seriously fried. See a doctor. Your TDS has overridden your ability to recognize the real world.

I have wasted enough of my time trying to convince you of what is right in front of your ******* face. The Dems bill was a dodge to get their asses off the hook, and the Republicans did not want that for obvious reasons, dipshit!

Where are those vote totals? Was the Dem bill ever voted on? When you get your shit together, come back and argue your point Chief!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Should and reality are two different things.

The Constitution mandates that the Congress's pay can't be impacted, not so the military.

No one should be (a) working or (b) get paid during a shut down.

WW

Nice opinion. You started with a fact and then dismissed it with your opinion. Your opinion doesn't ******* work in the real world. Grow up and learn that. Your TDS is scary!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Where am I confused.

Was S. 3012 not introduced by the R's and blocked by the D's?

Was S. 3039 not introduced by the D's and blocked by the R's?

Was S. 3043 not introduced by the D's and blocked by the R's?

WW

Show the vote totals! Oh, wait. that's about the third time I have said that. I provided the vote total for the Republican bill blocked by all but 3 DEMs.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Your brain is seriously fried. See a doctor. Your TDS has overridden your ability to recognize the real world.

I have wasted enough of my time trying to convince you of what is right in front of your ******* face. The Dems bill was a dodge to get their asses off the hook, and the Republicans did not want that for obvious reasons, dipshit!

Where are those vote totals? Was the Dem bill ever voted on? When you get your shit together, come back and argue your point Chief!

Of the two of us, one has his shit together.

I've the one that provided links to the bills.

Yes they were voted on, there was a Unanimoius Consent vote, and the bills were blocked because of GOP objection.

WW

 

[WorldWatcher]

Show the vote totals! Oh, wait. that's about the third time I have said that. I provided the vote total for the Republican bill blocked by all but 3 DEMs.

I provided the links to the bills.

For your information, not all Sentate actions have "vote totals". UC motions don't.

WW

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Of the two of us, one has his shit together.

I've the one that provided links to the bills.

Yes they were voted on, there was a Unanimoius Consent vote, and the bills were blocked because of GOP objection.

WW

I looked at the bills. What were the vote totals? Were you being intentionally dishonest when you said the bills were blocked by Republicans? The Dems bills were introduced meaning somebody laid the ******* paper on the GD Senate desk and nobody has ever even voted on it. Why? Because it was a dodge. The Republicans have never seen that bill, it was never debated in committee, and you have no ******* idea what you are rambling about.

That is not what my links to congress.gov say! The text of the ******* bill is not even available yet. How could they have voted on something that doesn't exist yet?

You don't even know what "unanimous consent" means! Do you?

Unanimous consent is a legislative procedure where all members present agree to a decision without the need for a vote. It allows for the swift passage of non-controversial matters, such as routine bills or rule changes, by eliminating the requirement for a formal vote.

You contradicted yourself because unanimous consent eliminates the need for a vote, so you can't have a vote on unanimous consent. One ******* Senator out of the 100 can block unanimous consent. That's what "unanimous" means, dumbass!

You are such a ******* rookie. Thank God I had chiefs with brains enough not do that kind of shit.

 

[WorldWatcher]

I looked at the bills. What were the vote totals?

So you lie.

If you had (A) looked at the bills (via the link provided) you wouldn't have asked for (B) vote totals.

That or you have no idea what a Unanimous Consent in the Senate means. Yes, a UC is a vote - though it's not recorded. The motion is put on the floor, if ONE senator objects - the motion is rejected. If there are no objections, meaning all the Senators agree, the motion passes.

WW

 

[Billiejeens]

I was so happy when I heard this news about the donation, until I was informed that this violates the anti deficiency law. Nothing to do with Democrats. This donation is not something that has to be approved by, or voted on by members of Congress.

Democrats can approve, disapprove or do nothing about this, and the money will still not be used for paychecks for military members. It’s just the law.

I’m so pissed about this. I with this law didn’t exist! I hate laws sobre times.
Whoever came up with this law is dumb.

Can DoD use private funds to pay troops during shutdown? | Federal News Network

The notion that people whose identity we don't know are paying for our troops is humiliating for the country and is potentially dangerous," David Super said.

federalnewsnetwork.com

Thefederalnewsnetwok.

Ya'll aren't even trying.

 

[Billiejeens]

The maga party can vote anytime to open government.

God damn you stupid

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

Show the vote totals! Oh, wait. that's about the third time I have said that. I provided the vote total for the Republican bill blocked by all but 3 DEMs.

If republicans gave democrats what they want the shutdown would@Admiral Rockwell Tory

Thefederalnewsnetwok.

Ya'll aren't even trying.

Have you been trying? How many times have you talked about the antideficiency law and the $130 million donation in this thread?

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

Thefederalnewsnetwok.

Ya'll aren't even trying.

FoxNews (BillieJeans isn’t even trying to read Fox):

“But the donation may be a potential violation of the Antideficiency Act, which prohibits federal agencies from spending money in excess of congressional appropriations or from accepting voluntary services.”

Trump ally who donated $130 million to pay troops amid shutdown revealed as reclusive billionaire heir: report

Timothy Mellon has been identified as the anonymous donor who gave $130 million to the Pentagon to pay troops during the government shutdown.

www.foxnews.com

 

[frigidweirdo]

I was so happy when I heard this news about the donation, until I was informed that this violates the anti deficiency law. Nothing to do with Democrats. This donation is not something that has to be approved by, or voted on by members of Congress.

Democrats can approve, disapprove or do nothing about this, and the money will still not be used for paychecks for military members. It’s just the law.

I’m so pissed about this. I with this law didn’t exist! I hate laws sobre times.
Whoever came up with this law is dumb.

Can DoD use private funds to pay troops during shutdown? | Federal News Network

The notion that people whose identity we don't know are paying for our troops is humiliating for the country and is potentially dangerous," David Super said.

federalnewsnetwork.com

Well, this shutdown has become the second longest in history, the longest was under Trump. The same Trump who went off to Malaysia and made a "peace deal" all about Trump. A dude who is spend money he got through bribery to remake the White House.

Doesn't look like he's doing much to end the shutdown. He is the king of the shutdowns.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So you lie.

If you had (A) looked at the bills (via the link provided) you wouldn't have asked for (B) vote totals.

That or you have no idea what a Unanimous Consent in the Senate means. Yes, a UC is a vote - though it's not recorded. The motion is put on the floor, if ONE senator objects - the motion is rejected. If there are no objections, meaning all the Senators agree, the motion passes.

WW

No, I just didn't tell you that they was no recorded vote. I asked a question, knowing you probably lied. I was waiting for you to trip up and you did. Sucks being played by someone smarter than you! You should get used to it.

Face it! You are a ******* Google amateur! Stay in your own lane Chief!

 

[Seymour Flops]

Trump won’t break the law because he won’t play military members.
The donation was for the DOD, not for Trump.

Did you mean to say "because he won't pay military members?"

Anyway, it turns out that Trump is actually in charge of the Department of War, formerly known as the DOD.

Where are you on willingness to admit you are wrong if the Troops get more than $0.00?

“But the donation may be a potential violation of the Antideficiency Act, which prohibits federal agencies from spending money in excess of congressional appropriations or from accepting voluntary services.”

Trump ally who donated $130 million to pay troops amid shutdown revealed as reclusive billionaire heir: report

Timothy Mellon has been identified as the anonymous donor who gave $130 million to the Pentagon to pay troops during the government shutdown.

www.foxnews.com

It also may be that someday pigs will evolve wings and fly.

What do you think will happen? The troops see any of the money, or no?

I hope some moronic Democrat pushes the issue and tries to keep the fulcrums, sorry the troops, from getting the money. The more prominent the Democrat, the better. Obviously AOC is the most prominent and powerful Democrat right now, but she is probably too cagey to get involved.

If they "win," and keep the money from the troops, all the talk of it being "only $100" will be meaningless except that it would show how petty Democrats are, for those still unaware.

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

Did you mean to say "because he won't pay military members?"

Anyway, it turns out that Trump is actually in charge of the Department of War, formerly known as the DOD.

Where are you on willingness to admit you are wrong if the Troops get more than $0.00?



It also may be that someday pigs will evolve wings and fly.

What do you think will happen? The troops see any of the money, or no?

I hope some moronic Democrat pushes the issue and tries to keep the fulcrums, sorry the troops, from getting the money. The more prominent the Democrat, the better. Obviously AOC is the most prominent and powerful Democrat right now, but she is probably too cagey to get involved.

If they "win," and keep the money from the troops, all the talk of it being "only $100" will be meaningless except that it would show how petty Democrats are, for those still unaware.

I think Seymour is clinically blind.
The title of the thread has me saying the troops will get zero dollars ($0.00) and Seymour still asks
“What do you think will happen? The troops see any of the money, or no?”

I don’t think he’s dumb. I think he’s blind.

 

[80zephyr]

Hilarious

Are you denying that the maga party can't vote to end the Shitler! shutdown?

Can the Dems vote to end it as well?

 

[Seymour Flops]

I think Seymour is clinically blind.
The title of the thread has me saying the troops will get zero dollars ($0.00) and Seymour still asks
“What do you think will happen? The troops see any of the money, or no?”

I don’t think he’s dumb. I think he’s blind.

I thought you might have changed your mind in light of all the education that posters on this thread are providing you.

No, huh?

What about the admitting you're wrong if you're wrong part?

If I turn out to be wrong, I'll admit it.

 

[Lesh]

I thought Trump was going to lower prices

That didn’t happen

 

[Lesh]

I think Seymour is clinically blind.
The title of the thread has me saying the troops will get zero dollars ($0.00) and Seymour still asks
“What do you think will happen? The troops see any of the money, or no?”

I don’t think he’s dumb. I think he’s blind.

Seymour is kinda slow

 

[Care4all]

I was so happy when I heard this news about the donation, until I was informed that this violates the anti deficiency law. Nothing to do with Democrats. This donation is not something that has to be approved by, or voted on by members of Congress.

Democrats can approve, disapprove or do nothing about this, and the money will still not be used for paychecks for military members. It’s just the law.

I’m so pissed about this. I with this law didn’t exist! I hate laws sobre times.
Whoever came up with this law is dumb.

Can DoD use private funds to pay troops during shutdown? | Federal News Network

The notion that people whose identity we don't know are paying for our troops is humiliating for the country and is potentially dangerous," David Super said.

federalnewsnetwork.com

$130 million pays every serviceman $100 one time only....