Zone1 I’m a 36-year-old white man and I’ve never been provided any leg up by the US government or handout because I’m white

[Coyote]

True, but addressing DEI is related to the topic, and posts on that should not be deleted.

Lisa, DEI is fine, but posts will be deleted if they attempt to derail the topic or violate CDZ rules of engagement. CDZ is intended to be a civil discussion of issues and ideas.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

You sound like a disgruntled, resentful white guy, but redressing the irrefutable legacy of slavery and racial discrimination - as well as sexism - to achieve equality of opportunity for all is an admirable goal.

The Constitutional ideal serves the nation as well as its citizens. America is far stronger for demographics previously discriminated against - excluded from educational institutions, the workforce, and political power - now having the opportunity to participate. Maximizing the talent pool means everyone can compete.

At no point in this thread, have you attempted to respond to the documented facts.

You’re engaging in personal attacks and flaming

All good have a nice one

 

[schmidlap]

At no point in this thread, have you attempted to respond to the documented facts.

You’re engaging in personal attacks and flaming

All good have a nice one

What "documented facts"?

 

[AZrailwhale]

If you believe that poverty and oppression based on race enhances family stability, please provide the data upon which you base your belief.

It wasn’t poverty, it was strong religious belief dating back to slavery.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

What "documented facts"?

For the 6th time or so … the video was posted showing an MIT professor who is black saying blacks get into his class with a lower SAT score compared to whites who have a higher SAT score who get denied. The situation brings down blacks and whites who have higher SAT scores bc the professor has to spend more time with the DEI students

Heather Mac Donald on Campaign 2024

Heather Mac Donald talked about the role of race in campaign 2024.

www.c-span.org

Video is in the link above. Now if you ignore this again, you’re obviously in here to be rude and impolite.

Why don’t you respond to this. It’s been posted numerous times. Not just this but other things in the video that you refused to watch or even address.

It’s blatantly obvious what’s going on in the western world. People are being called
Racist for saying whites are not privileged, for pointing out institutionalized racism against white people in employment and education sectors.

Sir pointing out the fact that there are racist hiring quotas against whites in America is not racist.

Throughout this entire thread, you have failed to post anything of substance or respond to the core issues. And you do it above and I strongly suspect you will continue to do this.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I come from a middle-class family…. when I moved out of my parents house I became very poor. I was living in an apartment. I never got anything for being white. And it’s sickens me to hear millionaire politicians, white and black claim that “Black people are held back in this country or white people are privileged”.

I Was turned down to get into a college and I didn’t complain about it. I decided to do the best I could. … working for myself and playing poker I’ve had success. I’ve been able to travel to Cambodia and Thailand for fun . A lot of people never even leave America.

Right now in America there are Black people and white people who are homeless. Their struggle is the same. And this argument about “white privilege” which has entire studies dedicated to It is 100% fake. There are universities that offer college courses on equity or diversity or absolute nonsense like that. It’s all fake. So when you hear somebody bring forth a so-called study About the “proof” that white people are privileged or the proof that their is system racism by police toward blacks it’s all based on lies and propaganda.

The racist right’s obsession with race is pathological.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

The racist right’s obsession with race is pathological.

Never any substance ^. Hit and run guy^

This is the hallmark of the modern day left when it comes to these critically important issues like race and gender in America.

Your party brought us BLM and DEI…. American patriots will stand up to that left-wing racism.

It becomes obvious that a very large portion of the modern day left can only engage in flame wars, and that seems like something that they want to do. Never bring up for any substance, but try to start personal insult wars to degrade important discussions

 

[schmidlap]

For the 6th time or so … the video was posted showing an MIT professor who is black saying blacks get into his class with a lower SAT score compared to whites who have a higher SAT score who get denied. The situation brings down blacks and whites who have higher SAT scores bc the professor has to spend more time with the DEI students

Heather Mac Donald on Campaign 2024

Heather Mac Donald talked about the role of race in campaign 2024.

www.c-span.org

Video is in the link above. Now if you ignore this again, you’re obviously in here to be rude and impolite.

Why don’t you respond to this. It’s been posted numerous times. Not just this but other things in the video that you refused to watch or even address.

It’s blatantly obvious what’s going on in the western world. People are being called
Racist for saying whites are not privileged, for pointing out institutionalized racism against white people in employment and education sectors.

Sir pointing out the fact that there are racist hiring quotas against whites in America is not racist.

Throughout this entire thread, you have failed to post anything of substance or respond to the core issues. And you do it above and I strongly suspect you will continue to do this.

You cite one professor at one school stating his opinion, unsubstantiated by any documentation, and MIT's policy conforms with the law.

“At the same time, as all parties agree, nothing in this opinion should be construed as prohibiting universities from considering an applicant’s discussion of how race affected his or her life, be it through discrimination, inspiration, or otherwise.”​

Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts in his opinion on Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard College.​

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Great progress has been and continues to be made in redressing the consequences of discrimination based upon race and gender that had persisted for centuries.

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[sparky]

I was a lad during the civil rights of the 60's .

Equality was on the table for minorities, for women, for all Americans

It made sense then, we were to look past race or gender,....

Today it's morphed into something it did not start out as, because all those factions who achieved equality abused the system towards being more than equal

dependent ON race or gender

It is literally right out of Orwell's Animal farm

~S~

 

[PeterPilot]

Equal opportunity to compete. Going to HBCs to recruit is DEI, legal, and fair. All you’re doing is getting an opportunity to find the best hires from a more diverse pool. 100% legal.

Equal opportunity to compete has existed for decades at least, and many black individuals have taken advantage of it and succeeded. Asian individuals have also taken advantage of it for decades, and succeeded. Affirmative action simply means that qualified individuals are rejected so that less qualified individuals with darker skin, women and minorities can be artificially placed above them.

 

[citygator]

Equal opportunity to compete has existed for decades at least, and many black individuals have taken advantage of it and succeeded. Asian individuals have also taken advantage of it for decades, and succeeded. Affirmative action simply means that qualified individuals are rejected so that less qualified individuals with darker skin, women and minorities can be artificially placed above them.

I dont know a single company doing that and I have been on executive teams for some of the largest companies in the US/World. Companies are paid to make money and they make money with the best people. No one hires unqualified people for jobs.

 

[PeterPilot]

I dont know a single company doing that and I have been on executive teams for some of the largest companies in the US/World. Companies are paid to make money and they make money with the best people. No one hires unqualified people for jobs.

LOL, I used to work for a Budweiser distributor 20+ years ago. I think they would disagree with your assessment. Several others too, like Tractor Supply Co. For many companies, adhering to the DEI craziness was a huge mistake, and they've since abandoned that policy.

 

[citygator]

LOL, I used to work for a Budweiser distributor 20+ years ago. I think they would disagree with your assessment. Several others too, like Tractor Supply Co. For many companies, adhering to the DEI craziness was a huge mistake, and they've since abandoned that policy.

You don’t understand the initiative. It’s about recruiting qualified candidates not hiring unqualified. Again. I know. I am in board rooms.

 

[debbiedowner]

Watch the videos posted throughout the thread

you know my friend? I’m not repeating myself anymore on these points.

Oh, you want me to watch the fake video's you maga cry babies live by?

 

[debbiedowner]

What "documented facts"?

Isn't he funny? Documented by whom? Maga's?

 

[schmidlap]

Isn't he funny? Documented by whom? Maga's?

Some disgruntled white dudes continually misrepresent their unfounded dogma as "documented facts."

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Oh, you want me to watch the fake video's you maga cry babies live by?

That was pretty quick. ..Same thing with schmidlap

I mean, you’re basically trying to say that there’s only 23 hours in a day instead of 24.

All you folks have left now would be personal attacks and ignoring the documented facts in front of your face.

 

[Rambunctious]

My father was Hispanic and so were my grandparents... both were self made men... both joined the US military served honorably... and both worked for Lockheed Martin....
They never did nor would ever take a government handout...

 

[Rambunctious]

Illegal migrants receiving more welfare payments than Black Americans....

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Only one of us hires for corporations and is the board room. If you’re good you get promoted. If you just ok you’re in the mix with other ok people however that shakes out.

No corporation hires people they think can’t do the job. Shareholders only care about performance. Why would I hire an unqualified person who will make my job harder, impact my bonus, and lower my stock price? I wouldn’t.

Swallow Your Pride and You Will Choke Your Talent

The economic bullies put a premium on bootlicking over brains, which would threaten their unquestioned authority. That's why they appreciate anyone who sacrifices growing up in order to submit to the indentured servitude of college "education."