Zone1 I’m a 36-year-old white man and I’ve never been provided any leg up by the US government or handout because I’m white

[AZrailwhale]

Yes, centuries of oppression, exploitation, and discrimination has a plethora of consequences, including poverty and familial instability.

The American black family was historically far stronger than the white family. The Latino family is still stronger than whites.

 

[schmidlap]

The American black family was historically far stronger than the white family. The Latino family is still stronger than whites.

If you believe that poverty and oppression based on race enhances family stability, please provide the data upon which you base your belief.

 

[PeterPilot]

Doesn’t sound like you’ve been hurt being white so what’s your complaint?

He is simply pointing out that several modern memes are false--the one about white supremacy etc.

And for those who understand constitutional principles, he's pointing out that favoring one race over another is illegal.

 

[citygator]

He is simply pointing out that several modern memes are false--the one about white supremacy etc.

And for those who understand constitutional principles, he's pointing out that favoring one race over another is illegal.

Two paths to a ladder. One is paved and one is through a swamp. Is it favoritism to simply get everyone to the ladder and see who climbs it fastest then hire the one that climbs the ladder fastest? That is what DEI is - getting people to the ladder. Giving people a chance to compete, not letting people start up the ladder.

 

[PeterPilot]

Two paths to a ladder. One is paved and one is through a swamp. Is it favoritism to simply get everyone to the ladder and see who climbs it fastest then hire the one that climbs the ladder fastest? That is what DEI is - getting people to the ladder. Giving people a chance to compete, not letting people start up the ladder.

The ladder analogy only goes so far. For those of us familiar with constitutional principles, what's more important what the law says.

Many black individuals have become very successful financially, by their own hard work. They did not need Affirmative Action to do that.

I understand you likely don't care about the rule of law and constitutional principles, but some of us do. In theory all men are equal before the law, but that theory has not survived modern times.

 

[citygator]

The ladder analogy only goes so far. For those of us familiar with constitutional principles, what's more important what the law says.

Many black individuals have become very successful financially, by their own hard work. They did not need Affirmative Action to do that.

I understand you likely don't care about the rule of law and constitutional principles, but some of us do. In theory all men are equal before the law, but that theory has not survived modern times.

Equal opportunity to compete. Going to HBCs to recruit is DEI, legal, and fair. All you’re doing is getting an opportunity to find the best hires from a more diverse pool. 100% legal.

 

[debbiedowner]

Trolling^

Major corporations have racist hiring quotas. Universities have racist application processes that all discriminate against white men.

You guys either support it or you respond to it with what are pretty much tantamount to lies/trolling

And you are trolling, I’m doing fine. It’s blatantly obvious that many white men in this country are being discriminated against by the corporations and the media.

I would like to see meritocracy. All your side does in these topics is lie about people and tell them how they think. Get out of here. For once fomulate a argument with truth and substance

You keep saying Major corporations have racist hiring quotas. Universities have racist application processes that all discriminate against white men. PROVE IT.

 

[PeterPilot]

Equal opportunity to compete. Going to HBCs to recruit is DEI, legal, and fair. All you’re doing is getting an opportunity to find the best hires from a more diverse pool. 100% legal.

When existing law is not enforced, there is only the law of the jungle, which you seem to accept and defend.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

You keep saying Major corporations have racist hiring quotas. Universities have racist application processes that all discriminate against white men. PROVE IT.

Watch the videos posted throughout the thread

you know my friend? I’m not repeating myself anymore on these points.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

one of the most racist things somebody can say is “your white you’re privileged”. It is pure insanity and a way to be very divisive.

All of us can see how the radical left says “white people need to be held accountable for what they’ve done to the blacks in American history”. It’s a divisive thing to say and they don’t even care about the fact that Black people in Africa did the same things as white people in Europe did. Of course they even acknowledge it because it fundamentally destroys their racist narrative.

I remain confident that most Americans black-and-white reject the BLM narrative that white people are privileged. That people of color are oppressed.

The language that BLM people use is the most racist language on the planet, and they know it. Same With the multimillionaire celebrities that empower the radical left in America.

You just do not understand where blacks are coming from and what makes you privileged.

Do you know who your father is? Do you understand making appointments and showing up on time? Do you speak English with ease? Can you solve simple arithmetic functions? When you see a police car, do you assume you are to be arrested?

All of these questions show just how privileged you are. It's a white world with norms and values held by white people and hostile to one degree or another to blacks or other poc marks.

 

[Coyote]

I think some here are forgetting that this thread is in Zone 1 CDZ. That means no insulting, flaming or putting down other posters. It also means adhering to the topic which is not Trump and Jan 6.

 

[Lisa558]

I think some here are forgetting that this thread is in Zone 1 CDZ. That means no insulting, flaming or putting down other posters. It also means adhering to the topic which is not Trump and Jan 6.

True, but addressing DEI is related to the topic, and posts on that should not be deleted.

 

[d0gbreath]

Oh please. There is nothing I got, nor my parents got, that blacks also did not get - including a FREE college education in the 1940s. By the time I came along, blacks were being selected over better qualified whites for admissions to prestigious universities, jobs, and promotions.

In my last job, working for a very liberal organization in a deep-blue city, it was rare for a white person, especially a white man, to get promoted. The promotions went primarily to blacks in general, gays, and black females, instread of better qualified whites. As a result, whites did the jobs of the “promoted” blacks, without the pay of course, and the place ended up with an almost all-white subordinate staff, with blacks and gays in the management roles.

What happened is that there was a rapid turnover of whites who were expected to do the jobs of blacks promoted over them.

So YOU quit your bitching and appreciate all the favoritism you have enjoyed since your college days. The favoritism given to blacks these days is so ridiculous that we end up with Harris and KJP on their roles due to their female blackness, and despite their obvious incompetence.

You should write true horror stories. White Man Not Promoted could start your series. I'd be scared out of my wits, but I'd read them anyway, being a true horror fan.

 

[Lisa558]

You should write true horror stories. White Man Not Promoted could start your series. I'd be scared out of my wits, but I'd read them anyway, being a true horror fan.

The libs’ ^^^ two means of defending their awful policies when there is no defense:

1) denial
2) sarcasm

 

[d0gbreath]

The libs’ ^^^ two means of defending their awful policies when there is no defense:

1) denial
2) sarcasm

I consider myself as being someone who knows a tiny bit about those them there thingies. They can be useful at times if you don't go overboard.

 

[Lisa558]

I consider myself as being someone who knows a tiny bit about those them there thingies. They can be useful at times if you don't go overboard.

It’s what libs do when they can’t refute the obvious: deny the truth, or mock the truth-teller.

 

[d0gbreath]

It’s what libs do when they can’t refute the obvious: deny the truth, or mock the truth-teller.

I do that. It doesn't seem to mean much.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

I do that. It doesn't seem to mean much.

No substance^

Unable to form a response of substance to the fact that blacks are accepted into universities with a lower SAT score, or that major corporations in America have racist hiring quotas. Now the radical left believes that repeating this fact is racist.

Truth is The radical left is the most racist political group in the country currently. They can’t show Trump supporters or Republicans suggesting for example that blacks are inferior.


Either one can support hiring the best person, black or white… or one can support that left-wing radicalism. …

 

[schmidlap]

I come from a middle-class family…. when I moved out of my parents house I became very poor. I was living in an apartment. I never got anything for being white. And it’s sickens me to hear millionaire politicians, white and black claim that “Black people are held back in this country or white people are privileged”.

I Was turned down to get into a college and I didn’t complain about it. I decided to do the best I could. … working for myself and playing poker I’ve had success. I’ve been able to travel to Cambodia and Thailand for fun . A lot of people never even leave America.

Right now in America there are Black people and white people who are homeless. Their struggle is the same. And this argument about “white privilege” which has entire studies dedicated to It is 100% fake. There are universities that offer college courses on equity or diversity or absolute nonsense like that. It’s all fake. So when you hear somebody bring forth a so-called study About the “proof” that white people are privileged or the proof that their is system racism by police toward blacks it’s all based on lies and propaganda.

You sound like a disgruntled, resentful white guy, but redressing the irrefutable legacy of slavery and racial discrimination - as well as sexism - to achieve equality of opportunity for all is an admirable goal.

The Constitutional ideal serves the nation as well as its citizens. America is far stronger for demographics previously discriminated against - excluded from educational institutions, the workforce, and political power - now having the opportunity to participate. Maximizing the talent pool means everyone can compete.

 

[otto105]

Right now in America there are Black people and white people who are homeless. Their struggle is the same. And this argument about “white privilege” which has entire studies dedicated to It is 100% fake. There are universities that offer college courses on equity or diversity or absolute nonsense like that. It’s all fake. So when you hear somebody bring forth a so-called study About the “proof” that white people are privileged or the proof that their is system racism by police toward blacks it’s all based on lies and propaganda.


My brother has been passed up for promotions because he’s a white man. Again, how can you say the above knowing that there are corporations that have racist hiring quotas against white men. Your choice if you want to live a lie.

Yeah, it’s your white privilege complaining that white people don’t have all the jobs. And I love the my bother was passed over because every white person is more qualified shtick.