Illegal Immigrant on Terror Watch List Released by Border Patrol, Spends a Year in the U.S.

Terrorists do all kinds of stuff. They also form sleeper cells and plan stuff. Just because you haven't seen a plane crash into a building does not mean all is well on the home front.

RIght, they've been getting us to piss ourselves for the last 23 years without actually having to do much of anything.

But it's not like we are going to do anything breathtakingly rational as stop giving them fresh greivences or anything.
 
RIght, they've been getting us to piss ourselves for the last 23 years without actually having to do much of anything.

But it's not like we are going to do anything breathtakingly rational as stop giving them fresh greivences or anything.

The above represents the worldview of the self-loathing leftist. They will gladly accept terrorist attacks as they believe they are deserving of such.
 
The above represents the worldview of the self-loathing leftist. They will gladly accept terrorist attacks as they believe they are deserving of such.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, Chatbot.

When Bin Laden was killing Russians for teaching Afghan girls how to read, Ronnie Reagan called him a freedom fighter.

WHen he started killing Americans, he became a terrorist.
 
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, Chatbot.

When Bin Laden was killing Russians for teaching Afghan girls how to read, Ronnie Reagan called him a freedom fighter.

WHen he started killing Americans, he became a terrorist.
Nothing but slogans, Chatbot.

Bin Laden may be your hero as you both hold the same politico-religious ideology but don’t expect others to make heroes of the sadistic killers you admire.
 
Nothing but slogans, Chatbot.

Bin Laden may be your hero as you both hold the same politico-religious ideology but don’t expect others to make heroes of the sadistic killers you admire.

Nobody said he was a hero. We just need to understand the dynamic that creates them.

Our policy in the middle east for the last 80 years has been sticking our hands into a hornet's nest and complaining about getting stung. We scratch our heads when our pet hornets like Osama or Saddam turn on us.
 
Nobody said he was a hero. We just need to understand the dynamic that creates them.

Our policy in the middle east for the last 80 years has been sticking our hands into a hornet's nest and complaining about getting stung. We scratch our heads when our pet hornets like Osama or Saddam turn on us.

Bin Laden may have been your personal hero "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" but don't expect others to agree.

A very important aspect of diplomacy is this: People forget that there are almost always mutually beneficial relationships with all sorts of regimes prior to the relationship reaching a point where enough is enough and a conflict erupts. Anti-war advocates act as if one day we went from being Saddam's friend on Thursday to "invading" Iraq on Friday.

It's not odd that we would have mutually beneficial relationships with guys like Noriega, Hitler, Hirohito, Mussolini -- etc. before irreconcilable differences draw a line in the sand. We live in the world and not everyone in the world is a good guy. So they are managed and there are relationships.

Sometimes those relationships go bad

The Middle East is filled with nations that went from warring Bedouin tribes to insanely wealthy ruling regimes in what-- 20 years (mid 1940's to OPEC in 1968 I believe)? The rest of the world gradually grew up out of its saber rattling over the course of centuries, but Moslems are only now going through their theocratic crusade period, and the problem is, it's not just with horses and swords, it's with technologies that they could never innovate on their own but those they can purchase with petrodollars.
 
A very important aspect of diplomacy is this: People forget that there are almost always mutually beneficial relationships with all sorts of regimes prior to the relationship reaching a point where enough is enough and a conflict erupts. Anti-war advocates act as if one day we went from being Saddam's friend on Thursday to "invading" Iraq on Friday.

No, what we did was FAR, FAR worse. On Thursday, Saddam was inflicting misery on Iraq with a war that no longer made any sense after the first few weeks. On Friday, he realized Kuwait was much easier pickings and invaded them. But wait, there's more. Saddam asked April Glaspie, our air-headed ambassador, if the US would have a problem if he invaded Kuwait and she said we wouldn't. The the Zionist Squatters in Washington realized this was an opportunity to goad America into taking out Saddam for them.

It's not odd that we would have mutually beneficial relationships with guys like Noriega, Hitler, Hirohito, Mussolini -- etc. before irreconcilable differences draw a line in the sand. We live in the world and not everyone in the world is a good guy. So they are managed and there are relationships.

Except we never had a "beneficial" relationship with the Axis leadership. As for our very bad decision to back a lot of dictators in the Cold War who did terrible things to their own people, that is STILL biting us in the ass long after the Cold War ended. Take Iran. We propped up the Shah because we didn't want communism. His own people overthrew him and STILL hate us. What did we gain?

The Middle East is filled with nations that went from warring Bedouin tribes to insanely wealthy ruling regimes in what-- 20 years (mid 1940's to OPEC in 1968 I believe)? The rest of the world gradually grew up out of its saber rattling over the course of centuries, but Moslems are only now going through their theocratic crusade period, and the problem is, it's not just with horses and swords, it's with technologies that they could never innovate on their own but those they can purchase with petrodollars.

When did we grow out of this stage, exactly? Seems we still rattle sabers.
 
No, what we did was FAR, FAR worse. On Thursday, Saddam was inflicting misery on Iraq with a war that no longer made any sense after the first few weeks. On Friday, he realized Kuwait was much easier pickings and invaded them. But wait, there's more. Saddam asked April Glaspie, our air-headed ambassador, if the US would have a problem if he invaded Kuwait and she said we wouldn't. The the Zionist Squatters in Washington realized this was an opportunity to goad America into taking out Saddam for them.



Except we never had a "beneficial" relationship with the Axis leadership. As for our very bad decision to back a lot of dictators in the Cold War who did terrible things to their own people, that is STILL biting us in the ass long after the Cold War ended. Take Iran. We propped up the Shah because we didn't want communism. His own people overthrew him and STILL hate us. What did we gain?



When did we grow out of this stage, exactly? Seems we still rattle sabers.

Well, yes. You are of the “Death to the Great Satan”, chanters, the more flaming of the leftists who believes the Great Satan to be the root of all evil.

Why did I just know you would bring your Jew hatreds into the thread?

Except you have this view that everyone in the world is nice and managing relationship with bad actors is a fact of diplomacy.

Except we had no “relationship” with the Axis leadership in part because a component of that leadership drew the US into war.

Except we had a relationship with the Russians who we allied with because there was a mutually beneficial relationship.
 
Except you have this view that everyone in the world is nice and managing relationship with bad actors is a fact of diplomacy.

Where did I say that? If our principle is that we were fighting for freedom and democracy, then we shouldn't have been backing guys like Pinochet and the Shah because the people MIGHT pick a form of government we don't like.

Except we had no “relationship” with the Axis leadership in part because a component of that leadership drew the US into war.

What the fuck are you babbling about? Did the Chatbot program get confused again?

Except we had a relationship with the Russians who we allied with because there was a mutually beneficial relationship.

You are a tad confused. Russia got into the war before we did. We BEGGED the Russians to intervene in our war with Japan.

Why did I just know you would bring your Jew hatreds into the thread?
The Jews run our foreign policy. We should probably do something about that. It really wasn't our business between Kuwait and Iraq, but the Jews wanted to take out Saddam so off we went. Screw those guys who got Iraq War Syndrome.
 

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