Zone1 If you don't believe in the real Jesus and His Church, you are a heretic

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Jesus said that few find the narrow way.

Few seem to be on the narrow pathway these days. There is more materialism, more selfishness, more lawlessness than ever b4 in history. The Virgin Mary appeared to someone in modern times, can't recall the details but she said that this time in history is the worst of all, sin-wise.

I already knew that. Anyone who looks around can see how awful it is..

and again, all this insanity virtually began with Luther, the first one to seriously defy Christ's Church.

It just stands to reason that if you are not in THE Church Christ founded, you are going to be prone to believing and practicing ERROR.
 
Jesus' church has been infiltrated and usurped by cultural Marxists....The church he founded is nowhere to be found.
It is still around. The Sedevacantists are the ones who know the truth about Catholicism and what has gone awry in the Church/Vatican.

Jesus promised His Church would withstand the gates of Hell itself .. Mt 16:18.

I'm surprised you know this, that the Church ws infiltrated. Most people, evne Catholics, don't
 
Jesus said that few find the narrow way.

Few seem to be on the narrow pathway these days. There is more materialism, more selfishness, more lawlessness than ever b4 in history. The Virgin Mary appeared to someone in modern times, can't recall the details but she said that this time in history is the worst of all, sin-wise.

I already knew that. Anyone who looks around can see how awful it is..

and again, all this insanity virtually began with Luther, the first one to seriously defy Christ's Church.

It just stands to reason that if you are not in THE Church Christ founded, you are going to be prone to believing and practicing ERROR.
Yeah..that wacky Martin Luther and his ridiculous objections to indulgences for rape and murder. After all, nothing says God's love like being able to pay a Priest for your absolution BEFORE you commit the planned crime~the Catholic church of Luther's time was corrupt to the core.
 
OP, who are you to judge? Let he who is without sin throw the first stone. Are you without sin. If so you must be guilty of hubris.
 
Jesus said that few find the narrow way.

Few seem to be on the narrow pathway these days. There is more materialism, more selfishness, more lawlessness than ever b4 in history. The Virgin Mary appeared to someone in modern times, can't recall the details but she said that this time in history is the worst of all, sin-wise.

I already knew that. Anyone who looks around can see how awful it is..

and again, all this insanity virtually began with Luther, the first one to seriously defy Christ's Church.

It just stands to reason that if you are not in THE Church Christ founded, you are going to be prone to believing and practicing ERROR.
2 Timothy 2:23-26, 2 Timothy 2:14, Matthew 12:25, Matthew 18:15-16, Romans 14:1-23, Romans 16:17-18, 1 Corinthians 3:3, 1 Corinthians 13:1-2, 1 John 4:20-21, Proverbs 6:16-19, Proverbs 28:25, Galatians 5:15, Galatians 5:19-21, Titus 3:10, Jude 1:19, Ephesians 4:3-6, Ephesians 4:31-32, Colossians 3:12-14, 1 Corinthians 12:25, 1 Peter 3:8, Philippians 2:1-2, John 17:20-23, Mark 3:24-25, Luke 11:17 and James 3:16.
 
Jesus said that few find the narrow way.

Few seem to be on the narrow pathway these days. There is more materialism, more selfishness, more lawlessness than ever b4 in history. The Virgin Mary appeared to someone in modern times, can't recall the details but she said that this time in history is the worst of all, sin-wise.

I already knew that. Anyone who looks around can see how awful it is..

and again, all this insanity virtually began with Luther, the first one to seriously defy Christ's Church.

It just stands to reason that if you are not in THE Church Christ founded, you are going to be prone to believing and practicing ERROR.
Catholicism=2Thess 2:3-- so you condemned yourself.
 
Tell me it is not logical (but looks like some of you already have told me it's "logical" ha ha)

That if Jesus, whose sole mission in life was to SAVE people... Tell me he set up a Church, and then said "Well, it doesn't matter if anyone every goes to this Church, but I've set one up anyway, in case y'all may be interested...."

And again, the Catholic Church is the only claimant to the word Church that goes back to the FIRST century. So tell me how Jesus established a Church that He promised would never fail and then... OOPS.. He had to wait until the likes of Luther came along for anyone to start "building" it ("I will BUILD My Church..." He said. "and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it" (emphasis added)

No, not even the almighty Luther can prevail absolutely
 
Tell me it is not logical (but looks like some of you already have told me it's "logical" ha ha)

That if Jesus, whose sole mission in life was to SAVE people... Tell me he set up a Church, and then said "Well, it doesn't matter if anyone every goes to this Church, but I've set one up anyway, in case y'all may be interested...."

And again, the Catholic Church is the only claimant to the word Church that goes back to the FIRST century. So tell me how Jesus established a Church that He promised would never fail and then... OOPS.. He had to wait until the likes of Luther came along for anyone to start "building" it ("I will BUILD My Church..." He said. "and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it" (emphasis added)

No, not even the almighty Luther can prevail absolutely
The more you post, the more you admit that the Catholic church is a real mess. Apparently, you have screwed up the church so badly that Jesus made sure to ignore it when he addressed the actual real churches in Revelation.

So, if someone wanted to join the Catholic church, should they wait until you give it the ok?
Good church-bad church, good church-bad church. Let us know when it picks a lane and gets your seal of approval. :uhoh3:
 
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I took Irish Ram off Ignore only to discover a post I cannot make sense of

I'm surprised..
 
Yeah..that wacky Martin Luther and his ridiculous objections to indulgences for rape and murder. After all, nothing says God's love like being able to pay a Priest for your absolution BEFORE you commit the planned crime~the Catholic church of Luther's time was corrupt to the core.
another one judging the entire Catholic Church for what a handful of "catholics" did 500 years ago

I'm intellectually BORED

:bigbed:
 
another one judging the entire Catholic Church for what a handful of "catholics" did 500 years ago

I'm intellectually BORED

:bigbed:
Far, far more than a 'handful' and you know it. The Catholic church was arguably the very worst thing that happened to Europe
 
Jesus said that few find the narrow way.

Few seem to be on the narrow pathway these days. There is more materialism, more selfishness, more lawlessness than ever b4 in history. The Virgin Mary appeared to someone in modern times, can't recall the details but she said that this time in history is the worst of all, sin-wise.

I already knew that. Anyone who looks around can see how awful it is..

and again, all this insanity virtually began with Luther, the first one to seriously defy Christ's Church.

It just stands to reason that if you are not in THE Church Christ founded, you are going to be prone to believing and practicing ERROR.

Being a "heretic" feels rather good, I have to say.
 
The Roman Catholic Church adds works to salvation. It denies that we are justified by faith alone in Christ alone. It adds sacraments (CCC 1129), baptism (CCC 1257), penance (CCC 980), and the works of the Law (commandments) as necessary for salvation (CCC 2068, 2036, 2070). The Bible teaches that keeping the commandments is not necessary for salvation (Romans 3:28, 4:5, Gal. 2:16, 21) and is to be avoided (Gal. 5:1-5). Otherwise, what Paul says in Romans 4:5 wouldn’t be true, “But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness.”
The Roman Catholic Church preaches a false gospel.
 
The Roman Catholic Church adds works to salvation. It denies that we are justified by faith alone in Christ alone. It adds sacraments (CCC 1129), baptism (CCC 1257), penance (CCC 980), and the works of the Law (commandments) as necessary for salvation (CCC 2068, 2036, 2070). The Bible teaches that keeping the commandments is not necessary for salvation (Romans 3:28, 4:5, Gal. 2:16, 21) and is to be avoided (Gal. 5:1-5). Otherwise, what Paul says in Romans 4:5 wouldn’t be true, “But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness.”
The Roman Catholic Church preaches a false gospel.
2 Timothy 2:23-26, 2 Timothy 2:14, Matthew 12:25, Matthew 18:15-16, Romans 14:1-23, Romans 16:17-18, 1 Corinthians 3:3, 1 Corinthians 13:1-2, 1 John 4:20-21, Proverbs 6:16-19, Proverbs 28:25, Galatians 5:15, Galatians 5:19-21, Titus 3:10, Jude 1:19, Ephesians 4:3-6, Ephesians 4:31-32, Colossians 3:12-14, 1 Corinthians 12:25, 1 Peter 3:8, Philippians 2:1-2, John 17:20-23, Mark 3:24-25, Luke 11:17 and James 3:16.
 
Being a "heretic" feels rather good, I have to say.
Life is always "good" for those who are on their way to Hell

God gives them the only paradise or virtual Heaven they will ever have on Earth because He knows where they will be in eternity (no escape)
 
Jesus said that few find the narrow way.

Few seem to be on the narrow pathway these days. There is more materialism, more selfishness, more lawlessness than ever b4 in history. The Virgin Mary appeared to someone in modern times, can't recall the details but she said that this time in history is the worst of all, sin-wise.

I already knew that. Anyone who looks around can see how awful it is..

and again, all this insanity virtually began with Luther, the first one to seriously defy Christ's Church.

It just stands to reason that if you are not in THE Church Christ founded, you are going to be prone to believing and practicing ERROR.
True Christians were tortured and killed during the Inquisitions because they refused to follow the Great Whore of Babylon known as the Roman Catholic Church.
 
True Christians were tortured and killed during the Inquisitions because they refused to follow the Great Whore of Babylon known as the Roman Catholic Church.
That's the lie that's been told. Maybe you should read up on the FACTS. The fact is that not more than 2000 people were put to death in all the years of the Spanish Inquisition due to their heresies. And the Church killed NO ONE. The clergy determined whether a person was a heretic, which used to be seen.. still should be to some extent.. as a danger to society and then if the person did not retract the heresy, he or she was turned over to the state and the STATE would determine whether they were put them to death.
 

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