If Trump wins? If Clinton wins?

Why would you vote for your candidate?

  • I genuinely like Trump- he's dynamic, forceful, doesn't take any crap - he can be the change we need

    Votes: 13 27.1%
  • Trump's positions match mine far more closer than the other candidates.

    Votes: 14 29.2%
  • I am voting for Trump because the possibility of Clinton as POTUS is frightening.

    Votes: 18 37.5%
  • I genuinely like Clinton - she's measured, thoughtful, has a good grasp of the issues we are facing

    Votes: 6 12.5%
  • Clinton's positions match mine far more closely than the other candidates

    Votes: 9 18.8%
  • I am voting for Clinton because the possibility of Trump as POTUS is frightening.

    Votes: 11 22.9%
  • I'm not voting.

    Votes: 2 4.2%
  • I'm voting 3rd party because both candidates are too flawed to even consider supporting.

    Votes: 9 18.8%
  • I'm voting 3rd party because neither major candidate's positions align with mine.

    Votes: 5 10.4%

  • Total voters
    48
  • Poll closed .
I voted for McMullin, and I will support any effort to impeach whoever is president.

What happened to Gary Johnson?

Anyway, I'm not rooting for impeachment regardless of who is elected, I'd jut like to see our country progress.
 
I expect the TRUMP to do whatever he needs to do to get rid of Obamacare and same goes for whatever he needs to do to push forth MY and His agenda Carbineer !!
Why would you think Trump would behave any differently as president than during his campaign and much his life. He goes out of his way to pick fights and insult people. He's not a politician or a team builder. He will be what he has always been, a loner who craves the spotlight.

Trump's republican support in Congress would begin disappearing the day after he took office. The only reason they supported him was to get a republican in the white house to appoint conservative judges and Pence would be far more reliable than an irascible, unpredictable Trump.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------TRUMP is still better than 'hilary' even if you are correct . And Conservative Judges are exactly what I want . Concerning Pence , he may be a good influence on the Trump . All we gotta do is elect the TRUMP to find out what he does Flopper !!
Influence Trump? You have to be kidding. Nobody influences Trump. If the reason you're voting for Trump is get conservative judges, you better hope Republicans in congress dump Trump. He holds only one wild card, appointing supreme court judges and he'll use that as a bargaining chip. If republicans don't give him what he wants, he'll bargain with democrats. Remember Trump doesn't care whether he appoints conservative or liberal judges.
 
I expect the TRUMP to do whatever he needs to do to get rid of Obamacare and same goes for whatever he needs to do to push forth MY and His agenda Carbineer !!
Why would you think Trump would behave any differently as president than during his campaign and much his life. He goes out of his way to pick fights and insult people. He's not a politician or a team builder. He will be what he has always been, a loner who craves the spotlight.

Trump's republican support in Congress would begin disappearing the day after he took office. The only reason they supported him was to get a republican in the white house to appoint conservative judges and Pence would be far more reliable than an irascible, unpredictable Trump.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------TRUMP is still better than 'hilary' even if you are correct . And Conservative Judges are exactly what I want . Concerning Pence , he may be a good influence on the Trump . All we gotta do is elect the TRUMP to find out what he does Flopper !!
Influence Trump? You have to be kidding. Nobody influences Trump. If the reason you're voting for Trump is get conservative judges, you better hope Republicans in congress dump Trump. He holds only one wild card, appointing supreme court judges and he'll use that as a bargaining chip. If republicans don't give him what he wants, he'll bargain with democrats. Remember Trump doesn't care whether he appoints conservative or liberal judges.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------we might get to see Flopper !!
 
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I see no good option voting for someone who is 99 percent asshole over someone who is 99.5 percent asshole is not a winner for me.


Your sig is the perfect metaphor for this election...
 
Listening to Trump's own words, the man is not mentally stable. Clinton played him in all three debates, getting him totally off subject and off balance. Someone like Putin would play him like a fiddle.

Trump's demonstrated ignorance on all subjects is demonstrable from his speeches. We do not need a President that has a belief system based on the same kinds of conspiracy theories we see posted by the most far out there loons on these boards.

Trump makes the claim that he would balance the budget by making sure that the income of the government is far less than it is today. And increase the military at the same time. Simple insanity from any point of view.
Maybe Trump will balance the budget by declaring the USA is bankrupt and start all over again. He has experience of this trick.

The biggest loser in that situation would be the biggest holder of US Debt. It ain't China. It's us.
Not so; if the United States defaults, it will never be able to borrow again. The dollar would take a dive, and the expenses of the world's major power could not be met. It would be a nightmare.
 
If Trump wins its possible that we get to stay a free country for a little longer. If Hillary wins we lose rights and liberties and become slaves to the government.

This is why the the whole power structure is against Trump. He won't perform tricks for special interests like hillary and most politicians have to. This is also why public funded elections only need to be put into place. Most politicians can't afford to be self funded like Trump is.
 
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If Trump wins its possible that we get to stay a free country for a little longer. If Hillary wins we lose rights and liberties and become slaves to the government.

This is why the the whole power structure is against Trump. He won't perform tricks for special interests like hillary and most politicians have to. This is also why public funded elections only need to be put into place. Most politicians can't afford to be self funded like Trump is.

That's because he IS a special interest.
 
The poll allows up to 3 responses. Virtual M&M's to anyone who can discuss this without accusations of shill, partisan hack, etc.

This is why I would vote for Clinton over Trump. Trump is a tremendously scary candidate - NOT because his positions, which are impossible to pin down and promises which he can in no way fulfill (making Mexico pay for a wall) - but it's his inherent and deeply flawed character which I find incomprehensible in a POTUS.

If he wins...what happens? If Clinton wins...what happens? I honestly have never felt this worried about an election, about the bad choices we are faced with, about a potentially horrible future for our country. I've been through a lot of elections...I've swallowed very distasteful choices (8 years of Bush) but nothing like this EVER.

I have to ask, and it would be nice to get meaningful answers rather than idiotic memes, this of Trump voters?

Does any of this worry you? Any of his character flaws? Can you really excuse them away?

I GET that Clinton is deeply flawed...but is Trump really a better choice?

He is shallow, highly vindictive and thin skinned, unable to control his temper or stay on topic, his ignorance is fueled not by a lack of education but a lack of interest. His total lack of preparation for the debates is a worrisome indicator of his ability or willingness to prepare for the highest office in the country and the problems he would face as president. For all the complaints (many justified) about Clinton - she knows what she's doing and she certainly does her work beforehand to study the issues.

This editorial says it best:
Election prediction: Trump loses even if he wins

The best analogy I've heard for this election is that a terrible storm is bearing down upon us. You can either join in raising the alarms and aiding in getting the people to safety, or you can stand by and criticize the fine points of evacuation plans, cast doubt on the strength of the storm and disparage the reputations of the emergency managers.

I'm hoping for Hillary because it will make my usually reliable Republican wife happy, and she'll stop calling the cat that my daughter left with us "Trump, cause he's an stupid entitled asshole"
 
If Trump wins its possible that we get to stay a free country for a little longer. If Hillary wins we lose rights and liberties and become slaves to the government.

This is why the the whole power structure is against Trump. He won't perform tricks for special interests like hillary and most politicians have to. This is also why public funded elections only need to be put into place. Most politicians can't afford to be self funded like Trump is.

That's because he IS a special interest.

I agree with you there. He's certainly not perfect but clinton is the perfect bought and paid for special interests' dream. That's my opinion anyway. Besides that, wouldn't getting money out of politics and publicly financed elections be a nice goal?
 
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If Trump wins its possible that we get to stay a free country for a little longer. If Hillary wins we lose rights and liberties and become slaves to the government.

This is why the the whole power structure is against Trump. He won't perform tricks for special interests like hillary and most politicians have to. This is also why public funded elections only need to be put into place. Most politicians can't afford to be self funded like Trump is.

That's because he IS a special interest.

I agree with you there. He's certainly not perfect but clinton is the perfect bought and paid for special interests' dream. That's my opinion anyway. Besides that, wouldn't getting money out of politics and publicly financed elections be a nice goal?

Clinton is bought and paid for, but Trump is buying and paying for.

Don't see how that's any better....

I agree 100% on getting money out of elections :)
 
If Trump wins its possible that we get to stay a free country for a little longer. If Hillary wins we lose rights and liberties and become slaves to the government.

This is why the the whole power structure is against Trump. He won't perform tricks for special interests like hillary and most politicians have to. This is also why public funded elections only need to be put into place. Most politicians can't afford to be self funded like Trump is.

That's because he IS a special interest.

I agree with you there. He's certainly not perfect but clinton is the perfect bought and paid for special interests' dream. That's my opinion anyway. Besides that, wouldn't getting money out of politics and publicly financed elections be a nice goal?

Clinton is bought and paid for, but Trump is buying and paying for.

Don't see how that's any better....

I agree 100% on getting money out of elections :)
I'm convinced that to get money out of elections you would have to change the constitution to limited campaigning similar to what the British do. How wonderful it would be to allow only 60 days of campaigning and equal funding followed by a blackout before the election. Most of what we need to know about a candidate can be determined in days not months and for a lot less money than the billions that are spent today. Most of that money is spent on repeating the same thing over and over. By the time election rolls around most voters are ignoring political news and ads because they know most of it is bull shit.
 
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If Trump wins its possible that we get to stay a free country for a little longer. If Hillary wins we lose rights and liberties and become slaves to the government.

This is why the the whole power structure is against Trump. He won't perform tricks for special interests like hillary and most politicians have to. This is also why public funded elections only need to be put into place. Most politicians can't afford to be self funded like Trump is.

That's because he IS a special interest.

I agree with you there. He's certainly not perfect but clinton is the perfect bought and paid for special interests' dream. That's my opinion anyway. Besides that, wouldn't getting money out of politics and publicly financed elections be a nice goal?

Clinton is bought and paid for, but Trump is buying and paying for.

Don't see how that's any better....

I agree 100% on getting money out of elections :)
I'm convinced that to get money out of elections you would have to change the constitution to limited campaigning similar to what the British do. How wonderful it would be to allow only 60 days of campaigning and equal funding followed by a blackout before the election. Most of what we need to know about a candidate can be determined in days not months and for a lot less money than the billions that are spent today. Most of that money is spent on repeating the same thing over and over. By the time election rolls around most voters are ignoring political news and ads because they know most of it is bull shit.
But this would take all the fun out of watching TV. Look at all the laughs we got from Sarah Palin and the preposterous show we are getting from Donald Trump.
 
This is why the the whole power structure is against Trump. He won't perform tricks for special interests like hillary and most politicians have to. This is also why public funded elections only need to be put into place. Most politicians can't afford to be self funded like Trump is.

That's because he IS a special interest.

I agree with you there. He's certainly not perfect but clinton is the perfect bought and paid for special interests' dream. That's my opinion anyway. Besides that, wouldn't getting money out of politics and publicly financed elections be a nice goal?

Clinton is bought and paid for, but Trump is buying and paying for.

Don't see how that's any better....

I agree 100% on getting money out of elections :)
I'm convinced that to get money out of elections you would have to change the constitution to limited campaigning similar to what the British do. How wonderful it would be to allow only 60 days of campaigning and equal funding followed by a blackout before the election. Most of what we need to know about a candidate can be determined in days not months and for a lot less money than the billions that are spent today. Most of that money is spent on repeating the same thing over and over. By the time election rolls around most voters are ignoring political news and ads because they know most of it is bull shit.
But this would take all the fun out of watching TV. Look at all the laughs we got from Sarah Palin and the preposterous show we are getting from Donald Trump.
Yeah, and think how dull this forum would be without 18 months of performances by people like Trump. However, I doubt the founders would see the humor in turning the election process into a three ring circus to entertain people who have nothing better to do with their time.
 
So lets just make the states equal, if they have 2 electoral votes each, the votes would be divided if no person got at least 52% of the vote, and for the same party if one got more than 52% of the vote. The electors would be BOUND to vote as directed. OR we could make national electors separate, and equal. Each US House of Reps district would vote, and the majority of each district would determine the vote of the elector, they would be bound to vote as directed by the voters. The state would then only have control of the STATE electors for their US senate, US house and internal state government representatives. At least the people of the states would not have their votes negated by state laws.
 

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