If Trump Is REALLY Interested In Combating Fraud, Then He Needs To Go After The Thousands Of Veterans Who Are Filing Fraudulent Claims With The VA

[Dr. Phosphorous]

No, you did not show fraud, people making claims and being approved is not fraud,

Yeah, I did....you're a blatant, shameless liar.

****, just look at post #65. That shit is commonplace among thousands of veterans.

 

[g5000]

There is no group that benefits more from socialism than veterans. It’s a fine profession but no one who gets the obscene benefits of ex-military should ever attack big gov.

They have guaranteed lifetime pensions and comprehensive healthcare benefits that adds up to millions of dollars over a lifetime. It creates the ability to retire much earlier than in the civilian world, with many starting their civilian careers in their forties already with a military pension already in hand on top of their social security payments.

Go socialism!

The pension I receive is nowhere near enough to live on. Not even close.

Officers receive a nice pension, but not us enlisted.

I do think lifetime healthcare at the VA for someone who only served four years is ridiculous.

 

[Rambunctious]

This is the REAL fraud that Trump needs to do something about.....not the nonsense that he and other Republicans have complained about with Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, etc.,

Thousands of military veterans have been filing fraudulent VA claims for years.....and 99.99% of them get away with it. These veterans get away with it because The Department Of Veteran Affairs does not have enough investigators to combat this disability fraud.

In some cases, military veterans have gotten hundreds of thousands of dollars, some over $1 million dollars, in disability payments from the VA over several decades.

From the Washington Post. --

VA’s $193 billion disability program — one of the biggest line items in the federal budget — has become a rich target for fraudsters, according to a Washington Post investigation. Each year, the agency’s inspector general opens dozens of criminal cases into veterans like Kilpatrick who are suspected of faking injuries or illnesses for money.

But former officials said they suspect those cases represent only a fraction of the fraud that occurs. They said VA has failed to reckon with the full scope of disability fraud — as seen in videos The Post obtained through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the government — and allowed it to become entrenched and endemic at the expense of veterans with legitimate needs.

“The system is vulnerable to manipulation,” said Michael Missal, who served as VA’s inspector general for nearly nine years until January, when President Donald Trump fired him and 16 other independent federal watchdogs. “There’s a high risk that people can either lie about their condition or exaggerate their condition.”


Here is one of the worst cases of disability fraud that I read about. This guy claimed to be paralyzed, but he wasn't. He got away with it for 3 years. --

During visits to Atlanta VA Medical Center, the Iraq War veteran arrived in a wheelchair, claiming multiple sclerosis had paralyzed his arms and legs. By the time he turned 35, the onetime athlete said he could barely move from the neck down, leaving him dependent on others to eat, dress and bathe, according to court records.

Obligated to help a former soldier in need, the Department of Veterans Affairs began paying Kilpatrick $7,900 a month in tax-free disability benefits in 2015, the records show. The federal government also gave him $20,000 for a specially equipped Jeep Cherokee to make it easier for his wife to take him to medical appointments.

The hoax lasted for three years and might have continued indefinitely, if not for a whistleblower who sent VA proof that Kilpatrick was lying: videos of the Army veteran backflipping on a trampoline, prancing around a sports field like a ballerina and swan diving into a playground ball pit.


Here is another egregious case of disability fraud. This guy claimed to be blind, but he wasn't. He got away with it for years. --

VA raised Hoover’s disability rating to 100 percent and declared him permanently unable to work, which boosted his compensation to more than $3,800 a month. The government also enrolled him in blindness rehabilitation courses, training him how to navigate obstacles with a long white cane.

But Hoover had faster ways to get around. In January 2012 — the same month that VA classified him as completely disabled for blindness — he walked into the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles to renew his driver’s license, records show.

He passed the eye test with 20/40 vision while wearing corrective lenses. Unaware that VA considered Hoover blind, the state of Florida gave him a new license plus perks in gratitude for his military service, including free disabled veteran plates for his vehicle.

From that point forward, according to the documents, Hoover claimed he was blind when he visited VA for medical appointments. Meanwhile, he cashed his disability checks and bought expensive toys, including an 11-foot boat, a three-wheeled motorcycle and a motorized canoe. Then he bragged on Facebook about how much fun he was having.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2025/veterans-affairs-fraud-fake-disability-cases/?itid=mr_manual_enhanced-template_1

Didn't Biden undo all of the reforms Trump signed into law at the VA... oh why yes he did....

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Yep. This is something which has pissed me off.

When I was retiring from 20 years of active duty, we retirees were required to attend week-long training on how to adapt to civilian life.

The classes were helpful. However, one class was dedicated to how to apply for disability. The instructor taught how to game the system. I could have used his tactics and be making a lot of money right now, but my father raised me to be honest in all things.

The system is definitely being abused. I've seen vets receiving one hundred percent disability who aren't even close to being disabled.

In my opinion, 100 percent means you can't walk or are paralyzed in some way or debilitated by PTSD. I know some guys who are debilitated by PTSD. A friend of mine came back from Afghanistan and there was not enough alcohol or meth on the planet to help him. He is the most constantly pissed off person I have ever seen.

I've been going through lot of PTSD counseling myself. I was so sick of the military after I retired, I avoided the VA like the plague.

Big mistake.

I'm sorry to hear about your PTSD. I hope the counseling is helping you.

I'm retired from the Air Force. I have not filed a single disability claim, although I had a severe ankle injury playing basketball during Air Force PT.

It's ridiculous how many veterans who have not faced a day in combat are stealing from the government.

 

[Independent thinker]

That is true for the programs that you MAGAs whine about the most. There is not nearly as much fraud in Medicare and Social Security as there is at the VA.


No, because the VA is way more generous with money than other government agencies.....which the articles that I posted discuss.

There is massive fraud just about everywhere but the left always ignore it. It's like crime in that I think it was Chicago's mayor who said something about all the crime there responding, "Maybe they're just hungry". That's the same thing you guys think about all of the massive fraud in benefits programs in that if it's mostly the poor committing all the fraud then it doesn't really count because it's the poor committing the fraud. Well, I've got news for you, most of the "massive fraud" committed by veterans is going to the poor. Those people aren't the one percenters.

 

[g5000]

No, you did not show fraud, people making claims and being approved is not fraud,

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It's not hard to game the system, Gunny.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Didn't Biden undo all of the reforms Trump signed into law at the VA... oh why yes he did....

Show your work, simp. No idea what the **** you're talking about.

 

[Rambunctious]

The pension I receive is nowhere near enough to live on. Not even close.

Officers receive a nice pension, but not us enlisted.

I do think lifetime healthcare at the VA for someone who only served four years is ridiculous.

I do just fine on my pension... when I start collection SS I'll be doing even better... if you don't plan for retirement don't blame the system...

 

[Mr Natural]

I wonder how many abortions Trump has paid for in His days?

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

There is no group that benefits more from socialism than veterans. It’s a fine profession but no one who gets the obscene benefits of ex-military should ever attack big gov.

They have guaranteed lifetime pensions and comprehensive healthcare benefits that adds up to millions of dollars over a lifetime. It creates the ability to retire much earlier than in the civilian world, with many starting their civilian careers in their forties already with a military pension already in hand on top of their social security payments.

Go socialism! To be a fraudster on top of that should result in being held under a prison.

That shit really pisses me off.

All the retired MAGA military assholes on here who whine about the government, yet receive a very generous pension.

 

[g5000]

I do just fine on my pension... when I start collection SS I'll be doing even better... if you don't plan for retirement don't blame the system...

I have a family of five. There is no way I would be able to support them on my pension.

When I actually retire and collect SS and cash in my 401k and IRA, my wife and I will be able to live quite comfortably.

 

[Rambunctious]

Show your work, simp. No idea what the **** you're talking about.

Remember the undoing of Trump's ex orders Biden did in the first two weeks of his miserable presidency?... in included removing the VA reforms...

 

[g5000]

That shit really pisses me off.

All the retired MAGA military assholes on here who whine about the government, yet receive a very generous pension.

I don't know who is telling you our pensions are comfortable.

You also forget what experiences and hardships military members go through. You are being a total dick.

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[Rambunctious]

I have a family of five. There is no way I would be able to support them on my pension.

When I actually retire and collect SS and cash in my 401k and IRA, my wife and I will be able to live quite comfortably.

Get a job... start a business... do something... are you a man or a sponge?....

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

I do just fine on my pension... when I start collection SS I'll be doing even better... if you don't plan for retirement don't blame the system...

It's truly hypocritical how you MAGAs constantly trash the same government that gives you a generous retirement pension.

It's ******* shameful, actually.

 

[g5000]

Get a job... start a business... do something... are you a man or a sponge?....

I have a job, dipshit. A very well-paid one. My military experience put me in a position to earn bigly. That's the real benefit of serving for 20 years.

For a long time I felt like the world's biggest sucker for serving that long. If I had gotten out after my first enlistment, I would have earned a **** ton more money by now, and have a massive retirement fund.



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[Dr. Phosphorous]

I don't know who is telling you our pensions are comfortable.

You also forget what experiences and hardships military members go through. You are being a total dick.

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How many people receive a retirement pension around the age of 40? Nobody.

You are being dishonest by saying that is not a generous pension.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Remember the undoing of Trump's ex orders Biden did in the first two weeks of his miserable presidency?... in included removing the VA reforms...

No, I don't remember your bullshit MAGA lies, simp. Show your ******* work.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

There is massive fraud just about everywhere but the left always ignore it.

And you are ignoring even more massive fraud at the VA.

You are full of shit.

It's like crime in that I think it was Chicago's mayor who said something about all the crime there responding, "Maybe they're just hungry". That's the same thing you guys think about all of the massive fraud in benefits programs in that if it's mostly the poor committing all the fraud then it doesn't really count because it's the poor committing the fraud. Well, I've got news for you, most of the "massive fraud" committed by veterans is going to the poor. Those people aren't the one percenters.

More MAGA butthurt dumb shit....

 

[g5000]

How many people receive a retirement pension around the age of 40? Nobody.

You are being dishonest by saying that is not a generous pension.

How many 40-year olds have experienced what a vet has experienced?

I'm with you on the fraud, but now you are being a total dick.